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[QUOTE=hulkling;4762367]As far as I know the true powers of the Human Torch are termokinesis rather than just fire generation. In a fight they should be equal. Would be funny.
and yes please, forget Christian Frost Icetorch is the ship that we deserve. Even is implied that Daken and Storm had an affair in the past but Marvel isnt ready to out him as bisexual .. yet[/QUOTE]
So the same as Bobby except opposite. And not unlimited. Iceman chemically blocked Sunfire body from producing a spark to light himself up. He'd eat Johnny alive and he should.
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Ororo would shut Johnny down way before it got to that.
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[QUOTE=Michael Watkins;4762377]whose creepy idea would it be to resurrect her as a child?[/QUOTE]
Scott and Jean are acting creepy enough to do so, lol
Otherwise it would be equally if not more creepy for adult Rachel to date Franks. By the time he is 20 she would be close to 40
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[QUOTE=tuck frump;4762403]So the same as Bobby except opposite. And not unlimited. Iceman chemically blocked Sunfire body from producing a spark to light himself up. He'd eat Johnny alive and he should.[/QUOTE]
Again he doesn’t need to create a spark, he just can increase the temperature in a room controlling the vibration of molecules the same that Bobby. Sunfire just can absorbe the solar radiation but Johnny is full if cosmic energy , he can create limitless heat.
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[QUOTE=danielsan52;4762446]Scott and Jean are acting creepy enough to do so, lol
Otherwise it would be equally if not more creepy for adult Rachel to date Franks. By the time he is 20 she would be close to 40[/QUOTE]
it's Franklin. he could disappear on a mission and return as an adult; no problem. we've already seen teen-Franklin lead a team in the 616.
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[QUOTE=hulkling;4762454]Again he doesn’t need to create a spark, he just can increase the temperature in a room controlling the vibration of molecules the same that Bobby. Sunfire just can absorbe the solar radiation but Johnny is full if cosmic energy , he can create limitless heat.[/QUOTE]
Right. People forget Johnny can control heat as well as flames. One hardly used power of his is that he can absorb heat around him, causing things to freeze.
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[QUOTE=hulkling;4762454]Again he doesn’t need to create a spark, he just can increase the temperature in a room controlling the vibration of molecules the same that Bobby. Sunfire just can absorbe the solar radiation but Johnny is full if cosmic energy , he can create limitless heat.[/QUOTE]
And bobbys power is also temperature control. To an unlimited level. By the new definition of omega, no one has surpassed it so the point still stands.
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Bobby and Johnny cancel out each other's powers, so they both decide to just fool around instead. Make it happen Zdarsky, I believe in you!
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my bet is on one jobbing to the other. and, in that scenario, it's going to be Johnny who comes out on top.
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[QUOTE=Dante Milton;4762648]Bobby and Johnny cancel out each other's powers, so they both decide to just fool around instead. Make it happen Zdarsky, I believe in you![/QUOTE]
LOL. Thanks to Daken, Johnny is a little bi-curious so I wouldn't mind it. Maybe they could talk about him
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[QUOTE=Dante Milton;4762648]Bobby and Johnny cancel out each other's powers, so they both decide to just fool around instead. Make it happen Zdarsky, I believe in you![/QUOTE]
The only thing Johnny is going to cancel is his premium grindr account.
[QUOTE=Michael Watkins;4762666]my bet is on one jobbing to the other. and, in that scenario, it's going to be Johnny who comes out on top.[/QUOTE]
Honey neither of them have ever been on top. Enter Daken.
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Johnny can't beat Bobby. He struggles absorbing heat when near the sun, no way he defeats an Omega even if he can control temperatures. By definition of Omega no one manipulates temperatures better than Bobby too.
I wonder what happens with Force Fields vs Telekinesis instead.
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[QUOTE=Veitha;4762676]Johnny can't beat Bobby. He struggles absorbing heat when near the sun, no way he defeats an Omega even if he can control temperatures. By definition of Omega no one manipulates temperatures better than Bobby too.
I wonder what happens with Force Fields vs Telekinesis instead.[/QUOTE]
No , Bobby is Omega in NEGATIVE temperature control , no one can decrease temperature better than him . But no one said anything about raising them and cancel his powers. Right now there isnt any mutant with Omega positive control of temperatures, probably because all pirokinetic mutants are bellow Johnny
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[QUOTE=tuck frump;4762673]The only thing Johnny is going to cancel is his premium grindr account.
Honey neither of them have ever been on top. Enter Daken.[/QUOTE]
lol. that's most likely true. but Johnny's a married guy or something, now. i dropped that title after the second issue.
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[QUOTE=hulkling;4762690]No , Bobby is Omega in NEGATIVE temperature control , no one can decrease temperature better than him . But no one said anything about raising them and cancel his powers. Right now there isnt any mutant with Omega positive control of temperatures, probably because all pirokinetic mutants are bellow Johnny[/QUOTE]
when was that proven? Pyro is at full health now. i don't remember anyone testing that out.
