[QUOTE=Crimz;4773983]I will accept Franklin going to Krakoa if they take Sue too. Anything to save her from the current FF writer...[/QUOTE]
Just put the entire family on Krakoa.
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4773983]I will accept Franklin going to Krakoa if they take Sue too. Anything to save her from the current FF writer...[/QUOTE]
Just put the entire family on Krakoa.
Curious why the FF was in defense mode....
Did Kitty just phase through Sue's Force Field??? HAHAHAHAH that saves so many debates.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4773992]Curious why the FF was in defense mode....
Did Kitty just phase through Sue's Force Field??? HAHAHAHAH that saves so many debates.[/QUOTE]
Nothing gets between the Red Queen and her treasure.
[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4773991]Just put the entire family on Krakoa.[/QUOTE]
That would be fun!
[QUOTE=Jbenito;4774012]That would be fun![/QUOTE]
They're weird enough to fit right in.
[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4774017]They're weird enough to fit right in.[/QUOTE]
Reed would enjoy a tour of Forge's creation den of love.
We've already established Iceman owns Johnnys ass in a fight but can Rockslide take over Bens rock body? With Kate able to phase through Sue's fields that's 3 of them taken care of.
[QUOTE=tuck frump;4774037]We've already established Iceman owns Johnnys ass in a fight but can Rockslide take over Bens rock body? With Kate able to phase through Sue's fields that's 3 of them taken care of.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure Pyro could probably take Johnny on his own but with Bobby there it's an automatic stomp, Kate could probably take Sue, if not her one of their many psychics could takedown her and Ben. And between Bobby and Storm one of them is bound to put Reed on Ice if absolutely necessary. That takes care of the Fantastic 4.
[QUOTE=Journey;4774052]Pretty sure Pyro could probably take Johnny on his own but with Bobby there it's an automatic stomp, Kate could probably take Sue, if not her one of their many psychics could takedown her and Ben. And between Bobby and Storm one of them is bound to put Reed on Ice if absolutely necessary. That takes care of the Fantastic 4.[/QUOTE]
That's probably how it SHOULD happen.
But you KNOW. Johnny is somehow going to be able to melt Bobby. Reed Richards is going to swirl his body around Storm to where she can't call lightning to strike him. Ben is going to steam roll through whoever is in his way.
And then Sue is going to be like: "YOur not taking my child!!!" and runs away with Franklin
Making the X-Men bad guys now
[QUOTE=Domino_Dare-Doll;4773958]Rictor chose to stay away because every time he stepped outside the earth shook wildly. He couldn't [I]get[/I] there, he said it himself; not saying your reasoning is wrong, but there was also another factor there. Beak also did choose to stay away, but because of a family [I]obligation.[/I] Even now, his wife speaks of wanting to go to Krakoa after they escape the basement; there's little evidence right now they'll stay.
But surely some questioning of resistance to Krakoa by those who [I]don't[/I] want to go would only enrich the plot, not tear Krakoa down? Wouldn't it address concerns? Show what's still happening on the outside, if attitudes are changing or worsening?[/QUOTE]
Not really, those people aren't significant [I]right now[/I].
This is going to be a gross oversimplification but bear with me. Most narratives in dramatic work are broadly (if not explicitly) divided up into three acts and each act has a specific structure to it. In this structure Act I is mostly about introducing significant elements. Who are the protagonists? Who are the antagonists? What do they want? etc. Act II is called the rising action or the complication, this is the point that they start encountering significant and varied opposition, its usually the largest act by far and usually has the most meat and depth. Act II is all about the obstacles and usually has the most character development and will usually leave the protagonists in their lowest point within the narrative. Act III is known as the climax, its typically the shortest act and it features the climb from the depths of Act II, The confrontation with the antagonists and the resolution.
They've established that some mutants chose not to go to Krakoa for many different reasons. Digging into and expanding on those reasons are largely pointless right now because they aren't significant to the central conflict. You have limited page space per comic and they don't add to the narrative about building the nation of Krakoa, in fact it weakens and distracts from that narrative.
Right now DoX is still very clearly in Act I narrative space, they are still establishing who and what the Krakoans are, who and what the main antagonists are. Mutant opposition to Krakoa is a complication not a central element so it really isn't important until you reach Act II narrative space.
The FF have gotten so crazy strong over the years that the rare modern hero v. hero against them is automatically interesting, too bad if it happens it's gonna have Dodson interiors.
[QUOTE=Journey;4774052]Pretty sure Pyro could probably take Johnny on his own but with Bobby there it's an automatic stomp, Kate could probably take Sue, if not her one of their many psychics could takedown her and Ben. And between Bobby and Storm one of them is bound to put Reed on Ice if absolutely necessary. That takes care of the Fantastic 4.[/QUOTE]
Oh in a head on fight, I assume Cyclops has already prepared for 62 different scenarios on how to take on the FF in a fight. I wanted to know if Rockslide by himself could subdue Thing and make him his rock puppet. Because THAT would be really embarassing.
[QUOTE=Kisinith;4774069]Not really, those people aren't significant [I]right now[/I].
This is going to be a gross oversimplification but bear with me. Most narratives in dramatic work are broadly (if not explicitly) divided up into three acts and each act has a specific structure to it. In this structure Act I is mostly about introducing significant elements. Who are the protagonists? Who are the antagonists? What do they want? etc. Act II is called the rising action or the complication, this is the point that they start encountering significant and varied opposition, its usually the largest act by far and usually has the most meat and depth. Act II is all about the obstacles and usually has the most character development and will usually leave the protagonists in their lowest point within the narrative. Act III is known as the climax, its typically the shortest act and it features the climb from the depths of Act II, The confrontation with the antagonists and the resolution.
They've established that some mutants chose not to go to Krakoa for many different reasons. Digging into and expanding on those reasons are largely pointless right now because they aren't significant to the central conflict. You have limited page space per comic and they don't add to the narrative about building the nation of Krakoa, in fact it weakens and distracts from that narrative.
Right not DoX is still very clearly in Act I narrative space, they are still establishing who and what they are, who and what the main antagonists are. Mutant opposition to Krakoa is a complication not a central element so it really isn't important until Act II narrative space.[/QUOTE]
I'm still not sure that the Act I thing is accurate though; not if only one of those mutants mentioned [I]is[/I] actually staying where he is?
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4774059]That's probably how it SHOULD happen.
But you KNOW. Johnny is somehow going to be able to melt Bobby. Reed Richards is going to swirl his body around Storm to where she can't call lightning to strike him. Ben is going to steam roll through whoever is in his way.
And then Sue is going to be like: "YOur not taking my child!!!" and runs away with Franklin
Making the X-Men bad guys now[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately your probably right, if nothing else I personally can't wait for Bobby and Johnny to go at it to finally settle that age old debate. Truthfully the X-Men do need to back off, Franklin is a minor if his parents say no end of discussion all they have to do is wait 2 more years for him to be legal then they can approach him. Oh wait Krakoa will probably be ashes by then....
All this trouble for some emo brat who lacks any kind of substance outside of his powers, I just don't understand.
[QUOTE=Domino_Dare-Doll;4774077]I'm still not sure that the Act I thing is accurate though; not if only one of those mutants mentioned [I]is[/I] actually staying where he is?[/QUOTE]
Mutants opposed to/questioning of Krakoa aren't a part of the central narrative so they don't need a significant introduction or significant presence in Act I. The examples given establish that those types of mutants exist thus when you get to Act II if the writers want to explore that idea you don't have to spend a lot of time introducing them. It doesn't even have to be one of those examples, they simply established the precedent that not everyone went to Krakoa.