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[QUOTE=Dthirds3;4717190]Sabertooth having a thing for senior citizens is apparently cannon, I don't know why but it is. Besides what else is he going to do.[/QUOTE]
Well ok, I didn't knew about that.
[QUOTE=DragonPiece;4717187]Guessing the same people not enjoying these x-men issues didn’t enjoy Hickman’s avengers run, because this really is reminding me of how he did those early issues.[/QUOTE]
i liked it, not loved. But When I started reading it was on time runs out. So I read first issue on trades.
This barely looks like the guy who worked on avengers book
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[QUOTE=useridgoeshere;4717162]The whoredeculture are just the new version of the Hellfire Kids, even down to controlling Krakoa and taking down all Mutants with ease.
There's nothing smart, inspired or interesting in just handing every human antagonist power neutralizers and psi-blockers. Technology in Marvel is worse than magic in DC, but it's been especially bad in DOX because it happens every week between all the books.[/QUOTE]
Ur Right about the hellfire brats similarities. This was a joke. Just Send Apocalypse and Mags to take care of these old fools.
This comic is just jumping around all over the place. From issue to issue.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4717149]You can do that and tell some interesting stories[/QUOTE]
Which is precisely what he did *shrug*
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[QUOTE=useridgoeshere;4717162]The whoredeculture are just the new version of the Hellfire Kids, even down to controlling Krakoa and taking down all Mutants with ease.
There's nothing smart, inspired or interesting in just handing every human antagonist power neutralizers and psi-blockers. Technology in Marvel is worse than magic in DC, but it's been especially bad in DOX because it happens every week between all the books.[/QUOTE]
agains bad secutiry at the gates. the flower cultive should had a stronger security.
look 4 elder woman beating Scott and Shaw LOL
Also the evil botanists want to wipe humans from earth mehhh plot
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[QUOTE=FIGHT;4717197]Ur Right about the hellfire brats similarities. This was a joke. Just Send Apocalypse and Mags to take care of these old fools.
This comic is just jumping around all over the place. From issue to issue.[/QUOTE]
The brats were just there for the joke. They have a nice background.
Send Selene and Apoc.
"Please don't hurt us, we are old!"
"Pffffffff"
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That's probably the worst comic I ever read.
Someone please tell Hickman he can't do comedy.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4717203]agains bad secutiry at the gates. the flower cultive should had a stronger security.
look 4 elder woman beating Scott and Shaw LOL
Also the evil botanists want to wipe humans from earth mehhh plot[/QUOTE]
"Bad security in the portals." They didn't even know that there was a way for humans to use gates. They still don't know how the old women do it.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4717203]agains bad secutiry at the gates. the flower cultive should had a stronger security.
look 4 elder woman beating Scott and Shaw LOL
Also the evil botanists want to wipe humans from earth mehhh plot[/QUOTE]
Yeah I feel like the theme with these first few because is how much Krakoan security SUCKS. They've drinking their own kool-aid and its left them wide open for the humans.
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[QUOTE=Glio;4717207]"Bad security in the portals." They didn't even know that there was a way for humans to use gates. They still don't know how the old women do it.[/QUOTE]
That still doesn't excuse the fact that they didn't even PLAN for that eventuality at the least they're should of been a few combat ready mutants there for security.
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[QUOTE=loke13;4717208]Yeah I feel like the theme with these first few because is how much Krakoan security SUCKS. They've drinking their own kool-aid and its left them wide open for the humans.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that we already saw a terrorist attack and now we have another attack on Krakoa.
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[QUOTE=loke13;4717211]That still doesn't excuse the fact that they didn't even PLAN for that eventuality at the least they're should of been a few combat ready mutants there for security.[/QUOTE]
They are not a police state. In addition, they had Pixie, which can easily teleport. It was bad luck that she was the first one KO
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4717220]The problem is that we already saw a terrorist attack and now we have another attack on Krakoa.[/QUOTE]
Attacks in completely different places by completely different means and completely different purposes.
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i thought he was joking ...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/fknErjG.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=Veitha;4717128]I don't get the complains. He's introducing stuff for future plots, exactly like he did in his Avengers run during the first couple issues.
Did we get spoiled with so many issues of good mutant stuff in a row that we now want everything superfast?[/QUOTE]
For me, it’s the opposite end of the same spectrum as the Hellfire Brats but rather than a bunch of kids, we have a bunch of old ladies who look about bone broke hip away from coming at the X-Men with walkers and wheelchairs. I just can’t take them seriously as villains much less a threat. Sure Vulture may be old but these villains look geriatric old. And for them to be making fools of the X-Men like that is just embarrassing. These are not villains I care to see more of.
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Basically, Scott, Sebastian got their asses whooped by the Golden Girls, while Emma Frost Got Punked by them................WOW.
Issue 3...Not Good.
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[QUOTE=ermac;4717205]That's probably the worst comic I ever read.
Someone please tell Hickman he can't do comedy.[/QUOTE]
His comedy on new mutants was better. Bu tit also can be brisson help.
jokes with W-word in 2019 are bad
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Well that was boring as shit.
I feel like this could have been half the length, twice as interesting and with more content. Someone tell Hickman he's not a comedian, nor is he endearing. The only good or interesting thing about these new villains was their motivation.
And my god, [I]everyone[/I] was just as forgettable as each other. No distinct voices or impact, no emotion that I could properly decipher, just...stuff happened.
Stuff happened and it was a goddamn [I]slog[/I].
And for the love of god, [I]enough with the data pages.[/I] If it's important enough to write an essay on, then it's important enough to have your characters [I]voice.[/I]
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The peaceful generation
bish
do you know what those two have been through
Did Hickman just burnout for HoXPoX. Because he's either purposely trolling. Or he's just over it and doesnt give AF.
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[QUOTE=Veitha;4717128]I don't get the complains. He's introducing stuff for future plots, exactly like he did in his Avengers run during the first couple issues.
Did we get spoiled with so many issues of good mutant stuff in a row that we now want everything superfast?[/QUOTE]
because this format is very nontraditional for the X-books. I didnt read his Avengers stuff so whatever he did there is completely irrelevant to me and people should stop using that as an excuse or response to people not digging this book. People are used to and want an episodic-like structure, not a series of oneshots. It doesnt feel fitting for the flagship title. It might have been acceptable if the writing is good, but its not. Hickman's characters feel stiff and these oneshot plots have been boring. Who cares if its setup for future stuff if the material just isnt interesting
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[QUOTE=Kurolegacy;4717228]For me, it’s the opposite end of the same spectrum as the Hellfire Brats but rather than a bunch of kids, we have a bunch of old ladies who look about bone broke hip away from coming at the X-Men with walkers and wheelchairs. I just can’t take them seriously as villains much less a threat. Sure Vulture may be old but these villains look geriatric old. And for them to be making fools of the X-Men like that is just embarrassing. These are not villains I care to see more of.[/QUOTE]
I think it was more of a carelessness situation. They thought it was something wrong with the gates/habitat, or probably some Savage Land natives messing it up. Nothing you can't solve with brute force and/or TP. Instead they found scientists with power blocking organic tech and it went to hell. Much like what happened in X-Force. I think they're showing us that mutants are far too sure to be winning (which was also what the last PoX page teased).
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4717229]Basically, Scott, Sebastian got their asses whooped by the Golden Girls, while Emma Frost Got Punked by them................WOW.
Issue 3...Not Good.[/QUOTE]
Wow, X-Men underestimating their opponents and getting beaten. Such a horrrrrrrible comic book *eyeroll*
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lol 8/10. This was my fave issue of X-men. I literally laughed the entire issue. The dialogue was a little stiff but i get the humor hickman was going for and my brain did the rest. this was really really fun. I feel like all of the comics are building for the longterm and quickly and it's made me a little lax and forgiving with some of the plot rushing. I think i feel i have a clearer image of what hickman is doing overall and i'm good with it.
Shaw be eating up the boys and girls. lol. I'm quickly becoming a Shaw fan between this and Marauders.
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Very nice issue. I like the idea of using a few done in one to introduce treats and themes to the book for the long run instead of having a 5 issue Arakko arc and then a 5 issue hordehouse arc etc. Knowing how Hickman works from FF, Avengers and East of West all these things will intertwine and payoff in the long run. The issue itself was enjoyable. The old ladies are obviously augmented, Cyclops ray wow uso have been enough to put them down otherwise so I don’t find them unrealistic as enemies, I mean [B]Magneto is 200 years old[/B] right?
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[QUOTE=staptik777;4717226]i thought he was joking ...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/fknErjG.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Seems like it isn't a joke
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The dialog from the established X-characters was bad. The Hordeculture ladies are fun, but I just can't get into this book.
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I didn't even read the issue, but by reading these comments, I can only conclude that there were two different versions of this comic released, one 10/10 quality and one 0/10 quality.
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People complaining about this being one-and-dones when Hickman told us that was what is was going to be before the book even launched. LMAO
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[QUOTE=Tycon;4717246]Wow, X-Men underestimating their opponents and getting beaten. Such a horrrrrrrible comic book *eyeroll*[/QUOTE]
I thought we were PAST THAT!!!.
This was VERY embarrassing.......
Emma should have started throwing Mutant Diamond Hands on those Golden Girls...Old or Not your trespassing and your a Thief.
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[QUOTE=Kurolegacy;4717228]For me, it’s the opposite end of the same spectrum as the Hellfire Brats but rather than a bunch of kids, we have a bunch of old ladies who look about bone broke hip away from coming at the X-Men with walkers and wheelchairs. I just can’t take them seriously as villains much less a threat. Sure Vulture may be old [B]but these villains look geriatric old.[/B]And for them to be making fools of the X-Men like that is just embarrassing. These are not villains I care to see more of.[/QUOTE]
And I can assure you, most 64 year olds don’t look as old as Augusta.
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[QUOTE=Tycon;4717257]People complaining about this being one-and-dones when Hickman told us that was what is was going to be before the book even launched. LMAO[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but he didn't tell us it was gonna be this [I]awful.[/I]
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4717234]because this format is very nontraditional for the X-books.[/QUOTE]
Too bad. The X-Men “tradition” has been tired for decades.
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Thank God this book is twice a month. So far we've got...
1) The Children of the Vault are still around
2) The 1st Horsemen of Apocalypse are either still around or have descendants still fighting their first enemy
3) The Krakoa gates can be hacked.
People would've seeked therapy if there were 4-5 weeks between that.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4717234]because this format is very nontraditional for the X-books. I didnt read his Avengers stuff so whatever he did there is completely irrelevant to me and people should stop using that as an excuse or response to people not digging this book. People are used to and want an episodic-like structure, not a series of oneshots. It doesnt feel fitting for the flagship title. It might have been acceptable if the writing is good, but its not. Hickman's characters feel stiff and these oneshot plots have been boring. Who cares if its setup for future stuff if the material just isnt interesting[/QUOTE]
i read his avengers and his FF, and still don't see what they have to do with X-books.
I think people can critic x-books without having read his other books. I think writing the flagship of x-men is very different from avengers and FF. There is some important side bok son x-men, like x-force and marauders.
The writing has been very boring, with bad characterization
[QUOTE=Su_Whisterfield;4717261]And I can assure you, most 64 year olds don’t look as old as Augusta.[/QUOTE]
True.
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[QUOTE=LordUltimus;4717256]I didn't even read the issue, but by reading these comments, I can only conclude that there were two different versions of this comic released, one 10/10 quality and one 0/10 quality.[/QUOTE]
Read it, it's good.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4717266]i read his avengers and his FF, and still don't see what they have to do with X-books.
I think people can critic x-books without having read his other books. I think writing the flagship of x-men is very different from avengers and FF. There is some important side bok son x-men, like x-force and marauders.
The writing has been very boring, with bad characterization[/QUOTE]
Writing the X-Men is different because the fans are something else lol
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[QUOTE=Triniking1234;4717265]Thank God this book is twice a month. So far we've got...
1) The Children of the Vault are still around
2) The 1st Horsemen of Apocalypse are either still around or have descendants still fighting their first enemy
3) The Krakoa gates can be hacked.[/QUOTE]
It really feels like he is building an X-universe for other writers to have fun in. He really feels like a director to me and i am really enjoying it. I can think of so many books and minis good writers can get a crack at just from what we have read in all the issues so far. It's really cool to me.
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[QUOTE=Tycon;4717257]People complaining about this being one-and-dones when Hickman told us that was what is was going to be before the book even launched. LMAO[/QUOTE]
If there's one thing I've learned about the X-Fandom over the years it's that we'll ALWAYS find something to complain about. Sensible or not.
I mean really most had their minds made up about this book since the first preview. You either like it or you don't.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4717266]The writing has been very boring, with bad characterization.[/QUOTE]
And yet, there is absolutely nothing you can do to get him fired.
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[QUOTE=PeterParked;4717249]Very nice issue. I like the idea of using a few done in one to introduce treats and themes to the book for the long run instead of having a 5 issue Arakko arc and then a 5 issue hordehouse arc etc. Knowing how Hickman works from FF, Avengers and East of West all these things will intertwine and payoff in the long run. The issue itself was enjoyable. The old ladies are obviously augmented, Cyclops ray wow uso have been enough to put them down otherwise so I don’t find them unrealistic as enemies, I mean [B]Magneto is 200 years old[/B] right?[/QUOTE]
Magneto i slike 80-90 year old. An dhis powers help him keep the daddy bod
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[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4717275]If there's one thing I've learned about the X-Fandom over the years it's that we'll ALWAYS find something to complain about. Sensible or not.[/QUOTE]
Hence why I stopped taking it seriously aeons ago.