[QUOTE=Havok83;5178123]Yes and with Cerebro, it makes no sense that he'd be unreachable to any of them[/QUOTE]
He wears Psi-Blockers. Best Guess, No-Prize?!?
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[QUOTE=Havok83;5178123]Yes and with Cerebro, it makes no sense that he'd be unreachable to any of them[/QUOTE]
He wears Psi-Blockers. Best Guess, No-Prize?!?
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;5178113]Well, I learned something today.
That is really confusing grammar wise.
What is the reasoning behind using a plural word? Might as well learn some more lol[/QUOTE]
This isn't really the place for it but the tldr reason is that they are the pronouns Vita prefers as a non-binary person.
[QUOTE]While it is no longer grammatically incorrect to use they/them as singular anymore, people still get confused about it. A friend’s parent recently responded to their pronouns, saying: “But if I tell Shelly you’re coming round for dinner, she’ll think you’re bringing extra people!”
Try this: if you are using the pronoun in a scenario where there is no confusion over singular versus plural, just go ahead and use it (“You are going to meet my friend Poppy today, I hope you like them”).
If you are using it in an instance where it might be misconstrued as plural, you can change the first part of the sentence to make it clear (“I may bring a friend, their name is Poppy”).
If you still feel that is confusing, you can be explicit (“I asked Poppy – who uses they/them pronouns – they might come”). This also takes the onus off your non-binary friend for having to explain it themselves later.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Havok83;5178107]Storm couldnt reach T'Challa by phone but she was on an island full of telepaths, like her best friend Jean, Xavier, Psylocke, Rachel. You cant tell me she couldnt have gone to them with help in reaching T'Challa. Given the urgency, they would have gladly assisted her in getting connected to him[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Can't have that, it would deprive the book of a needless conflict. Why have them work together when they can fight against each other. If they'd worked together that would have strengthened the bond not only between Storm and Wakanda but between Wakanda and Krakoa. Imagine, Wakanda aiding Krakoa without conflict. That just doesn't work for the narrative they're pushing.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5177236]
[COLOR="#000080"]Hey friend. I genuinely mean this when I say I'm sorry things didn't work out how you wanted them to.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Hey man! I know you mean this sincerely so thanks, I appreciate it. There are a lot of people who are disappointed by today’s turn of events. I’m more disappointed with how ham-fistedly it was handled. These characters deserve as much depth and respect as they got being built up together as they should being driven apart. Just lazy. Contrived is a word that strongly comes to mind as well. With smart and thoughtful writing I don’t even think I would mind nearly as much with the same outcome.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5178125]He wears Psi-Blockers. Best Guess, No-Prize?!?[/QUOTE]
Are there any psi blockers for cerebro?
Thcalla has blocking feats but that is a whole other beast lol
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5178125]He wears Psi-Blockers. Best Guess, No-Prize?!?[/QUOTE]
Jean accessed his mind in X-men Red. I think she could do it again if she wanted to
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5178125]He wears Psi-Blockers. Best Guess, No-Prize?!?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;5178143]Are there any psi blockers for cerebro?
Thcalla has blocking feats but that is a whole other beast lol[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Or contact the people around him to give him a message?
He didn't even have to come back to Wakanda. Just tell them to let her get the sword.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5178116]What they say on Twitter?!?! I'm not on it cause the internet is toxic enough.
I'm glad we're on the same wavelength. Logan got a MONTAGE and 2 whole issues and we get some mess.
At least Ororo looked bomb throughout the issue.[/QUOTE]
well unfortunately vita didn't like my thoughts on twitter even though I didn't @them on the issue and blocked me. then I found out a repsected reviewer who didn't give a flattering review was also blocked. people don't like my mouth at times so I get it lol but I thought it was extremely tacky to block the other individual who was simply providing their thoughts and didnt @them. its just a mess lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5178149]well unfortunately vita didn't like my thoughts on twitter even though I didn't @them on the issue and blocked me. then I found out a repsected reviewer who didn't give a flattering review was also blocked. people don't like my mouth at times so I get it lol but I thought it was extremely tacky to block the other individual who was simply providing their thoughts and didnt @them. its just a mess lol[/QUOTE]
It's a no for me. How else are they supposed to learn and grow? I hate it when writers act like they own these characters, because we're the ones paying to read about them on a monthly basis.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5178149]well unfortunately vita didn't like my thoughts on twitter even though I didn't @them on the issue and blocked me. then I found out a repsected reviewer who didn't give a flattering review was also blocked. people don't like my mouth at times so I get it lol but I thought it was extremely tacky to block the other individual who was simply providing their thoughts and didnt @them. its just a mess lol[/QUOTE]
Link please. I'm looking for Twitter Tea. Lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5178149]well unfortunately vita didn't like my thoughts on twitter even though I didn't @them on the issue and blocked me. then I found out a repsected reviewer who didn't give a flattering review was also blocked. people don't like my mouth at times so I get it lol but I thought it was extremely tacky to block the other individual who was simply providing their thoughts and didnt @them. its just a mess lol[/QUOTE]
Honestly, what in the hell did they think would happen when this issue came out? Did Ayala think every reader would bow down and thank them for writing this mischaracterization? Sure, yes, I'm sure many loved the issue. The book is ranked #1 in some category on Amazon. But they had to know the feathers they would ruffle with this bullshit story. I can tell they are a good writer. But being good at one's craft is not the same as quality storytelling. This issue missed the mark for all of the reasons many have already stated. Just as much as it hit the bullseye with it's ultimate goal--pulling Storm away from Wakanda and T'Challa.
I agree with those who mentioned lost opportunities to explore the various aspects of Ororo. She is more than a protector and a mutant. Those two labels are so limiting. I recommend leaving a review on Amazon and speak your peace. As I mentioned earlier in the day, it won't change a damn thing but at least a review is a long standing form of discontent that will be up for years to come.
[QUOTE=Cville;5178158]Link please. I'm looking for Twitter Tea. Lol[/QUOTE]
I cant link you to vita as I'm blocked lol. I didn't realize you were so messy lolol. I will see if I can find some more interesting tweets about the issue for u
[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5178156]It's a no for me. How else are they supposed to learn and grow? I hate it when writers act like they own these characters, because we're the ones paying to read about them on a monthly basis.[/QUOTE]
exactly. I understand that these criticisms can be taken personally but one must understand these characters existed before these creators and will be there after the move on to something else. if you are not disrespectful I see no reason why people can't offer criticisms.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/UMGytSs.jpg[/img]
Storm was also dumb to sneak into the place while creating a thunderstorm. WTF?!? The weather was fine that night before she decided to be "covert". It seemed obvious to those that knew what she wanted, that she was up to something. Like she couldnt just create some fog? Why draw attention to herself with the lightning and thunder?
[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/26xBKCz3YDAr3edsA/giphy.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Havok83;5178185]Storm was also dumb to sneak into the place while creating a thunderstorm. WTF?!? The weather was fine that night before she decided to be "covert". It seemed obvious to those that knew what she wanted, that she was up to something. Like she couldnt just create some fog? Why draw attention to herself with the lightning and thunder?[/QUOTE]
Considering how she retains all her other skills, it's somewhat strange to think she could have lost all her old skills of sneaking, lockpicking and most importantly subtlety from her thieving days.
It's like if Gambit just blew everything up to steal something.
But then again, Storm trying to solve everything with lightning first seems to have become the standard modus operati for many of her writers. Just like how Wolverine always needs to be heavily injured in every storyline.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5178149]well unfortunately vita didn't like my thoughts on twitter even though I didn't @them on the issue and blocked me. then I found out a repsected reviewer who didn't give a flattering review was also blocked. people don't like my mouth at times so I get it lol but I thought it was extremely tacky to block the other individual who was simply providing their thoughts and didnt @them. its just a mess lol[/QUOTE]
That's sad.
[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5178058]I remember having a conversation on this page a while back about intersectionality and how Storm is the perfect character to explore dual identities. As others have mentioned Storm isn't just a mutant, she's a black woman, and Wakanda is the physical manifestation of her connection with the black community. It was disheartening to see a story where Storm placed one identity over the other when we could have easily seen a story of Storm reconciling her identities and then entering the XoS stage as a more whole version of herself.
Now I'll admit that this is pure speculation territory, but maybe this was a reflection of Vita's experience? Yes they are black, but they're also queer and people often feel the need to choose between those identities and ultimately align with one over the other. I've often felt that being a mutant is a better representation of the LGBTQ+ experience, so it could very well act as a stand-in in this story. If this is the case, then I would've appreciated a lot more nuance.
Ultimately the issue was entertaining but also very frustrating. It's also especially annoying, because in the last Marauders issue we saw Kurt hand Kitty her Star of David necklace, signaling that there is a space for both religious/ cultural identity and mutant identity in these stories. Yet for some reason Storm has to betray all her black friends (honestly closer to family) for the sake of mutant kind and that's supposed to be empowering?[/QUOTE]
This all day. Sums up how I feel right now.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5178212]That's sad.[/QUOTE]
But quite understandable.
And well within their rights to not have to deal with any perceived negativity. They don't produce the work for one person only...You don't like the product, fine. Just don't attack the creators under the thinly veiled guise of "constructive criticism".
THAT is tacky. And rude.
[QUOTE=Havok83;5178185][img]https://i.imgur.com/UMGytSs.jpg[/img]
Storm was also dumb to sneak into the place while creating a thunderstorm. WTF?!? The weather was fine that night before she decided to be "covert". It seemed obvious to those that knew what she wanted, that she was up to something. Like she couldnt just create some fog? Why draw attention to herself with the lightning and thunder?
[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/26xBKCz3YDAr3edsA/giphy.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
yea im gonna agree here. i totally missed that part lolol. that was pretty stupid and not a covert use of her abilities. did she actually use any of her thievery skills (picking of locks, etc) in this issue because I dont think I saw one. and she got spotted. I guess its clear who the resident true thief in the xmen are.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5178212]That's sad.[/QUOTE]
it is but some people are sensitive when it comes to these things. though don't agree i can get it when you feel you are attacked but you can never grow in whatever your craft is if you are unable to receive criticism/feedback.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5178149]well unfortunately vita didn't like my thoughts on twitter even though I didn't @them on the issue and blocked me. then I found out a repsected reviewer who didn't give a flattering review was also blocked. people don't like my mouth at times so I get it lol but I thought it was extremely tacky to block the other individual who was simply providing their thoughts and didnt @them. its just a mess lol[/QUOTE]
lol. I'm also blocked by them. And I've never interacted with them or talked about their books, like never. Go figure.
The issue wasn't even a good display of Storm's thievery skills. I like the concept of her pulling off a big heist, but it was executed in a boring way. I wanted to see 'Ro picking locks and crawling through airducts like Catwoman.
It's not personal...they don't know any of you from Adam and Eve...they're just protecting their emotional selves. As they (or any other creator) should...Twitter is a cesspool filled to overflowing with entitled little shyts.
Xmen writers were not using HER a lot or well at the time and the bp writings used well
[QUOTE=Luckystar.;5178343]lol. I'm also blocked by them. And I've never interacted with them or talked about their books, like never. Go figure.[/QUOTE]
oh chile I'm a part of the club!!!!! that's hilarious!!! we should start a AA group lolol jk.
[QUOTE=Dipter;5178348]The issue wasn't even a good display of Storm's thievery skills. I like the concept of her pulling off a big heist, but it was executed in a boring way. I wanted to see 'Ro picking locks and crawling through airducts like Catwoman.[/QUOTE]
now that would have been so cute and fierce. it would have been hard for me to criticize the issue had she been shown like that. i love me some Catwoman!!!!!
[quote=guiltypleasure;5177528]he raised good points. One of them being how wakandans viewed storm as a goddess under coates. She saved them from adversary and they literally prayed to her. The artist showed people from all over the country praying to her. So, when the podcaster said if goddess storm hadari yao came asking for a wakandan sword then you give it to her. That makes sense but only if coates's work isn't ignored. Why would wakandans have a problem with their hadari yao borrowing a sacred sword that could possibly save their lives? Come on, most of them wouldn't.
And, okay, another poster noted that no one would've even known the sword was gone unless ramonda, shuri, or t'challa told them. So true. None of this makes any sense beyond the contrivance of ending the relationship. That is not hard to discern. The logic of it all fails. But not if that motivation is factored in.[/quote]
racist just want blacks to fight.
[QUOTE=superheat;5178387]Xmen writers were not using HER a lot or well at the time and the bp writings used well[/QUOTE]
that is the gag. the xwriters didn't have any interest in her, then coates picks her up and then they want to have all these big plans for her. its an absolute mess.
Marauders #13 definitely reads like a story that had an objective, and worked backwards to get there.
Stealing the sword was plan C, since plan A ( calling BP directly) and B (contacting the royal family) didn't work, so from a character point of view, I'm going to say Storm tried a few different tactics before resulting to theft. And I thought it was unfair for people to say Storm was being impatient since T'Challa ended up showing up at the end anyway, but it's not like the character knew that would happen.
The rest of my criticisms have pretty much already been covered by others in this thread, so instead I'll say I really enjoyed the interactions with Storm and Shuri. I think some of the care and nuance that Vita took with the character interactions has been overshadowed by the rather dodgy plot stuff. I also like that Storm put her hair up before she went to work.
I am [I]most [/I]uncomfortable with Storm seeming to choose being mutant over everything, which is a choice that many of us with multiple marginalized identities feel like we are asked to do. And it kinda makes it seem like a character who is VERY important to a lot of Black people, doesn't consider her Black identity to be important...
Still, I'm going to be generous and assume that this is the first part of a larger story with Storm and BP
[QUOTE=Luckystar.;5178343]lol. I'm also blocked by them. And I've never interacted with them or talked about their books, like never. Go figure.[/QUOTE]
Block chains. Someone you might follow fits the requirements of the block chain and that is probably why.
[QUOTE]Just don't attack the creators under the thinly veiled guise of "constructive criticism".[/QUOTE]
If one buys the book and states what they liked and did not like is NOT an attack on the creator.
Butterflykyss and others are not gators who don't buy or even read the book yet go after creators for existing.
These folks bought that book.
Vita is FREE to not listen to any of them.
Here is the THING.....
Butterflykyss and the rest are also FREE to write reviews and to NEVER buy another book by Vita. That blocking folks will help enforce that.
Kingdom X & Lordallmighty are right-how do you grow if you don't listen to criticism/feedback?
All it takes is ONE bad book to SOUR folks on you.
[QUOTE=TraneTrax;5178421]Marauders #13 definitely reads like a story that had an objective, and worked backwards to get there.
Stealing the sword was plan C, since plan A ( calling BP directly) and B (contacting the royal family) didn't work, so from a character point of view, I'm going to say Storm tried a few different tactics before resulting to theft. And I thought it was unfair for people to say Storm was being impatient since T'Challa ended up showing up at the end anyway, but it's not like the character knew that would happen.
The rest of my criticisms have pretty much already been covered by others in this thread, so instead I'll say I really enjoyed the interactions with Storm and Shuri. I think some of the care and nuance that Vita took with the character interactions has been overshadowed by the rather dodgy plot stuff. I also like that Storm put her hair up before she went to work.
I am [I]most [/I]uncomfortable with Storm seeming to choose being mutant over everything, which is a choice that many of us with multiple marginalized identities feel like we are asked to do. [B]And it kinda makes it seem like a character who is VERY important to a lot of Black people, doesn't consider her Black identity to be important...[/B]
Still, I'm going to be generous and assume that this is the first part of a larger story with Storm and BP[/QUOTE]
That is only an interpretation. One of many. And probably a spurious one at best given the stakes All Mutants have faced and are facing. It's not the whole truth of the matter, and her actions not taken in context of the whole narrative being told.
A lot of these reactions are purely emotional and personal...understandably so but...one should also be able to look at the work from a removed and objective position.
Unfortunately...twitter ensues.
[QUOTE=superheat;5178387]Xmen writers were not using HER a lot or well at the time and the bp writings used well[/QUOTE]
Folks get jealous when something you don't care for gets used by someone else who does a better job.
It's a mark on the franchise she is from than the franchise she is being used in.
[QUOTE=Leirus;5177632]Are you all not making too much of the issue? They still very much love each other. T'Challa still let her go with the Sword and was adequately chastised for not paying attention to her on time. This is kind of the superheroic version of a tiff about taking out the trash. At this point Storm and the Black Panther are pretty much end game. But given that they cannot very well retire to have children and keep starring on their comics, we get this sort of thing. I think it was pretty well written, and I would say her relationship with Wakanda is even stronger after the issue.
But! This is not what I wanted to ask! In this issue N'Dare is drawn with white hair in her youth. I think that is a first. Do you think they are about to retcon something in Storm past? Maybe tying her dinasty to Apocalypse via Ashake/Genesis? Or maybe to the past of Wakanda?[/QUOTE]
Well said.
I am actually pleased at how impactful the issue was for readers. A lot of reaction in support and opposition to Storm's choices, but those are the stories I ten to like the most.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5178064]not storm. go back to hox when they were having the discussion of being completely separate from the larger world. she never has shown even within the duggan books to be only pro mutants.
and that was clearly shown. there is nothing here based in continuity and the biggest issue which was the sword was a retcon that didn't exist prior to this issue. that leads me to believe many other avenues and potential storylines could have been used. they could hsve even gone the route of the bone of swords, but this angle was chosen for a reason. and it wadnt just to show mytants will do what us necessary so I respectfully disagree there.[/QUOTE]
Not only pro mutant, but pro-mutant first. That was clear when she reintroduced the Scott, Jean and the others. She is aligned enough to what happening on Krakoa and with the mutant race to put them first.
As someone else pointed out this whole story X of Swords is reconned to have an another half of Krakoa. Adding a sword to Wakanda is a pretty small part of it.
It's been said by the editors and writers that Storm is at the beginning of a story and that this books sets part of that up. We don't know that the story they are going to tell could be done using the sword of bone. Just because it's a part of her ancestral past doesn't mean it has any impact on her future.
[QUOTE=Grunty;5178196]Considering how she retains all her other skills, it's somewhat strange to think she could have lost all her old skills of sneaking, lockpicking and most importantly subtlety from her thieving days.
It's like if Gambit just blew everything up to steal something.
But then again, Storm trying to solve everything with lightning first seems to have become the standard modus operati for many of her writers. Just like how Wolverine always needs to be heavily injured in every storyline.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dipter;5178348]The issue wasn't even a good display of Storm's thievery skills. I like the concept of her pulling off a big heist, but it was executed in a boring way. I wanted to see 'Ro picking locks and crawling through airducts like Catwoman.[/QUOTE]
THIS . This was one of my gripe with issue.
They alway say she's a Master thief, but always showcase her super sloppy.
She hasn't done a heist worth the name. They don't even showcase her escape artis skills.
I want to see some Carmen Sandeigo level work.
I want her to break into Hydra, Steal from The Hand, Escape from the inescapable.
Last time I was impress was when Magneto had her and they entire X-Men reduce to the skill level of infants and she got them out. No powers.
IMO, its almost unfair to compare Coates to Vita. There's no nice way to say this, but Coates is a much, much better writer with a much more solid grasp of characters and storytelling. Vita's Marauders run has felt like a scattering of ideas and things that happen, and not even a solid plot. Coates has spent a lot of time going into the relationship between BP and Storm, even addressing some of the political and racial implications of Krakoa. Vita has Storm acting like a petulant child and taking advantage of her relationships with Wakandan royalty. It basically gives a giant middle finger to everything Coates has done.
The story could have easily worked had it taken place near the end of the 3 day deadline. Its a simple fix that I'm stunned an editor didn't notice. It would have actually given Storm's decision weight. Instead her 'I can't wait for you' just makes her look stupid, because she's now going to be waiting in a circle for 2 days when she could have just waited an hour.
[QUOTE=Havok83;5178185][img]https://i.imgur.com/UMGytSs.jpg[/img]
Storm was also dumb to sneak into the place while creating a thunderstorm. WTF?!? The weather was fine that night before she decided to be "covert". It seemed obvious to those that knew what she wanted, that she was up to something. Like she couldnt just create some fog? Why draw attention to herself with the lightning and thunder?
[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/26xBKCz3YDAr3edsA/giphy.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
She needed the storm to generate the energy to overload and disable the security system when she got to the storage facility.
[QUOTE=Triniking1234;5178663]She needed the storm to generate the energy to overload and disable the security system when she got to the storage facility.[/QUOTE]
No she didnt. She can hurl lightning bolts from her hands. She didnt need to put the whole city on alert to do that. It was a very sloppy sneaking mission
That thunderstorm was basically the batsignal mixed with a blowhorn, telling the whole country that HEY EVERYBODY STORM IS ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING YOU SHOULD REALLY CHECK ON HER. Subtle and sly thievery it was not.
[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;5178166]Honestly, what in the hell did they think would happen when this issue came out? Did Ayala think every reader would bow down and thank them for writing this mischaracterization? Sure, yes, I'm sure many loved the issue. The book is ranked #1 in some category on Amazon. But they had to know the feathers they would ruffle with this bullshit story. I can tell they are a good writer. But being good at one's craft is not the same as quality storytelling. This issue missed the mark for all of the reasons many have already stated. Just as much as it hit the bullseye with it's ultimate goal--pulling Storm away from Wakanda and T'Challa.
I agree with those who mentioned lost opportunities to explore the various aspects of Ororo. She is more than a protector and a mutant. Those two labels are so limiting. I recommend leaving a review on Amazon and speak your peace. As I mentioned earlier in the day, it won't change a damn thing but at least a review is a long standing form of discontent that will be up for years to come.[/QUOTE]
I think Vita believed this would be received well, which is odd. I think the fans of the xbooks have an emphasis record. Usually the fandoms go and attack the writers on their social media pages but this was not the case this time from what i saw. So it was odd that they blocked a few readers who never @them. And agreed they definitely met the objective they were hoping to meet but ignoring the xoffices drama I am thankful gqve me a reason to become invested in storms story again. despite all their efforts tge joy his run gave me is something they will never be able to take away. I hope the fans of vita and the xmen writers enjoy lightning lass they've been so eager to read.
oh i can't find your post that you stated this but the review idea on Amazon is a good one. do you need an account or can it be done as a guest?
[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5178446]Block chains. Someone you might follow fits the requirements of the block chain and that is probably why.
If one buys the book and states what they liked and did not like is NOT an attack on the creator.
Butterflykyss and others are not gators who don't buy or even read the book yet go after creators for existing.
These folks bought that book.
Vita is FREE to not listen to any of them.
Here is the THING.....
Butterflykyss and the rest are also FREE to write reviews and to NEVER buy another book by Vita. That blocking folks will help enforce that.
Kingdom X & Lordallmighty are right-how do you grow if you don't listen to criticism/feedback?
All it takes is ONE bad book to SOUR folks on you.[/QUOTE]
thank you so much for these words i truly appreciate them. I ignore certain posts and users when I see irrelevant points being made meamt to be inflammatory. however, your posts here is very spot on. I was actually rooting fir vits to do well going into the issue before I read the actual issue so to see they would just block people who expressed their discontent with the issue was unfortunate. oh well money saved !! lol
[QUOTE=pkingdom;5178703]That thunderstorm was basically the batsignal mixed with a blowhorn, telling the whole country that HEY EVERYBODY STORM IS ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING YOU SHOULD REALLY CHECK ON HER. Subtle and sly thievery it was not.[/QUOTE]
I really have loved all the input I've seen from you today. please post more!!
[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5178452]Folks get jealous when something you don't care for gets used by someone else who does a better job.
It's a mark on the franchise she is from than the franchise she is being used in.[/QUOTE]
hello? and this feels very reminiscent to what was done after avx. the xoffices break the alart and promise they have "big plans" for storm. this time I won't be falling for the okie doke.
[QUOTE=pkingdom;5178638]IMO, its almost unfair to compare Coates to Vita. There's no nice way to say this, but Coates is a much, much better writer with a much more solid grasp of characters and storytelling. Vita's Marauders run has felt like a scattering of ideas and things that happen, and not even a solid plot. Coates has spent a lot of time going into the relationship between BP and Storm, even addressing some of the political and racial implications of Krakoa. Vita has Storm acting like a petulant child and taking advantage of her relationships with Wakandan royalty. It basically gives a giant middle finger to everything Coates has done.
The story could have easily worked had it taken place near the end of the 3 day deadline. Its a simple fix that I'm stunned an editor didn't notice. It would have actually given Storm's decision weight. Instead her 'I can't wait for you' just makes her look stupid, because she's now going to be waiting in a circle for 2 days when she could have just waited an hour.[/QUOTE]
I wholeheartedly agree to every point made in this post. if one reads coates BP&C, and black panther runs (noth season) its blatantly clear how much this man is a fan of the xmen and storm. his ability to reference important moments from that run (outback era, adversaey battle, mkran crystal, etc) i found to be most impressive. then he layered this with showing her being a mutil-dimensional character who was able to deal with issues spanning many areas including her perspective on race, on being a woman, and beung a hero. it was so fresking refreshing to see and then marauders 13 dropped lol. it was wrong for all the reasons you pointed out. what i found most egregious is that she literally was like there is no time only to get sword and still find herself waiting. she came across like suck a freaking idiot.
[QUOTE=Leirus;5177632]Are you all not making too much of the issue? They still very much love each other. T'Challa still let her go with the Sword and was adequately chastised for not paying attention to her on time. This is kind of the superheroic version of a tiff about taking out the trash. At this point Storm and the Black Panther are pretty much end game. But given that they cannot very well retire to have children and keep starring on their comics, we get this sort of thing. I think it was pretty well written, and I would say her relationship with Wakanda is even stronger after the issue.
But! This is not what I wanted to ask! In this issue N'Dare is drawn with white hair in her youth. I think that is a first. Do you think they are about to retcon something in Storm past? Maybe tying her dinasty to Apocalypse via Ashake/Genesis? Or maybe to the past of Wakanda?[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with this. I think Vita did a great job.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5178353]It's not personal...they don't know any of you from Adam and Eve...they're just protecting their emotional selves. As they (or any other creator) should...Twitter is a cesspool filled to overflowing with entitled little shyts.[/QUOTE]
Very much this. Twitter is full of crazy. Vita should probably block a load more tbh.
[QUOTE=Tenebrae;5178923]
Very much this. Twitter is full of crazy. Vita should probably block a load more tbh.[/QUOTE]
I will second that thought , Twitter is a cesspool AND Vita as black person and woman(for this purpose there is no other way to describe it, I know Vita is nonbinary ) they have come under attack for being those things and other silliness in such mean and gross way when they initially start writing comics it is without a doubt it is understandable they will quickly block anything even close to looking toxic. Having to deal with garbage comicsgate people and other a-holes will do that.
The bright side Vita is proven good, It is going to be pretty fun seeing people come around to Vita. I read enough Liverwire to know she can handle Storm well if she was give her over a extended period and luckily that should happen some in Children of the Atom.
[QUOTE=Havok83;5178681]No she didnt. She can hurl lightning bolts from her hands. She didnt need to put the whole city on alert to do that. It was a very sloppy sneaking mission[/QUOTE]
Ok time to wank this. Here I go.
Obviously storm was super upset and emotionally so girl really had no control over the lightning over wakanda. Side affect of her powers being linked to her emotions. I fully expected some uncontrollable background rain etc when wolverine got an aurora. Lol