[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4872537]Giant Size X-Men: Storm comes out in May right??? Or was their a date ever given??[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure they said June.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4872537]Giant Size X-Men: Storm comes out in May right??? Or was their a date ever given??[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure they said June.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872594]you must havent heard what halle berry said about her ex husband. these things happen all the time unfortunately.
[url]https://www.business2community.com/social-buzz/halle-berry-taking-ex-court-racial-slurs-used-towards-daughter-01078842[/url][/QUOTE]
Did she every say that she knew about his attitudes beforehand? Any hints during their relationship?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872621]yea I love the original look as well. are you going to add color to it?
it looks very nice. please continue to share your work beloved.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
Yes, I’ll colour it too. But not tonight.
I’ll post it when she’s done.
[QUOTE=Cville;4872628]Did she every say that she knew about his attitudes beforehand? Any hints during their relationship?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure but again this is just one example that these types of things are not unheard of as crazy as it may sound.
[QUOTE=Su_Whisterfield;4872630]Thanks.
Yes, I’ll colour it too. But not tonight.
I’ll post it when she’s done.[/QUOTE]
thanks boo!!! keep us posted!!!
[url]https://www.cbr.com/storm-black-panther-marriage-wakanda-mindscape/[/url]
CBR has a really nice article digging into some of the images we saw from Giant size. The scene we first see may be more than just the kenya Savannah but according to the article it may be her version of the djalia showing her connection or deeper connection to Wakanda. What are your thoughts?
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872645]I'm not sure but again this is just one example that these types of things are not unheard of as crazy as it may sound.[/QUOTE]
I only ask because if she didn't know and it happens after the divorce, being shocked is understandable. But to circle back, WKs xenophobia isn't a secret. Its something the mother and father most likely knew about and if I'm to believe Yost(I think thats who created him), the mother is xenophobic too, except for the person she was having sex with. Because if the father were around, she would have treated Gentle the same? I just want a background story where they say the Mother is xenophobic except for people she is sleeping with.
[QUOTE=Cville;4872676]I only ask because if she didn't know and it happens after the divorce, being shocked is understandable. But to circle back, WKs xenophobia isn't a secret. Its something the mother and father most likely knew about and if I'm to believe Yost(I think thats who created him), the mother is xenophobic too, except for the person she was having sex with. Because if the father were around, she would have treated Gentle the same? I just want a background story where they say the Mother is xenophobic except for people she is sleeping with.[/QUOTE]
I would imagine that this was not something unbeknownst to halle but I dont think it siuld be fair to categorize that situation as an outsider looking in.
and think about Michael jackson father. his children had done numerous interviews regarding how he picked at their children's big noses and hair even though their physical attributes were a direct reflection of him. just because an individual has a child doesnt mean they will protect them from varying degrees of their own self hate.
I don't think it was the Djalia. If it was, then those felines would have been actual deities or ancestors, and I don't like the idea of Jean and Emma ripping them apart. I think it was, as it was presented; her mindscape. I think she lived on the savannas of Kenya for most of her life compared to any other situation, so that's the bedrock. She's so connected to physical life and nature, that's her sense of self: a life-giving baobab tree. That glowing diadem could be her Divine nature. She's trapped somewhere inside of herself by that unnatural virus. That theme even resonates with Hickman's basic premise of mutants representing nature, natural evolution, in contrast to the post-humans augmented by machines but transcending them(the major theme expressed in PoX).
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4872707]I don't think it was the Djalia. If it was, then those felines would have been actual deities or ancestors, and I don't like the idea of Jean and Emma ripping them apart. I think it was, as it was presented; her mindscape. I think she lived on the savannas of Kenya for most of her life compared to any other situation, so that's the bedrock. She's so connected to physical life and nature, that's her sense of self: a life-giving baobab tree. That glowing diadem could be her Divine nature. She's trapped somewhere inside of herself by that unnatural virus. That theme even resonates with Hickman's basic premise of mutants representing nature, natural evolution, in contrast to the post-humans augmented by machines but transcending them(the major theme expressed in PoX).[/QUOTE]
the only reason I'm inclined to disagree, at least with you points about djalia, is the baobab tree has been a staple symbol in the BP bools:
[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/7b/f4/a77bf404ce0d9bbfa73c639d0073bf01.jpg[/img]
we canonically see this tree again in wakanda in Shuri:
[img]https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/23/Grootboom_II_from_Shuri_Vol_1_1_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20190615094811[/img]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5h79CkWwAIjeO0?format=png&name=small[/img]
these trees as of late have been a wakandan thing and not necessarily tied to ororo in any way. aside from that I would agree with your assessment.
I wonder what storyline changes Hickman has in store for ororo and how it all may link to what we saw in her mind and to wakanda potentially.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872731]the only reason I'm inclined to disagree, at least with you points about djalia, is the baobab tree has been a staple symbol in the BP bools:
[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/7b/f4/a77bf404ce0d9bbfa73c639d0073bf01.jpg[/img]
we canonically see this tree again in wakanda in Shuri:
[img]https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/23/Grootboom_II_from_Shuri_Vol_1_1_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20190615094811[/img]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5h79CkWwAIjeO0?format=png&name=small[/img]
these trees as of late have been a wakandan thing and not necessarily tied to ororo in any way. aside from that I would agree with your assessment.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, Baobab Trees are a staple of parts of Africa in general.
[QUOTE=Cville;4872742]To be fair, Baobab Trees are a staple of parts of Africa in general.[/QUOTE]
they are BUT as many times as Ororo has been shown in africa before becoming and xman and after has she ever been associated so visibly as she has in giant size. the only other references we have seen to this spectacular tree have been from the BP line both onscreen and in canon.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4872627]Pretty sure they said June.[/QUOTE]
Thank You sir.
Jonathan: Our last issue is a bookend by myself and Russell Dauterman. We’re doing Giant-Size X-Men: Storm. (Which pays off the first issue and also features more characters than just Storm).
It really sets up what we’re going to be doing with her for the next couple of years.
is this our hint of a storm solo???? hickman.... you tease.
[img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7bu0djfS68A8ggSI/giphy.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872671][url]https://www.cbr.com/storm-black-panther-marriage-wakanda-mindscape/[/url]
CBR has a really nice article digging into some of the images we saw from Giant size. The scene we first see may be more than just the kenya Savannah but according to the article it may be her version of the djalia showing her connection or deeper connection to Wakanda. What are your thoughts?
[center][img]https://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Storms-Mind-Landscape.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=450&h=556&dpr=1.5[/img][/center][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the. It's a decent enough article if you ignore the fact that the author seems to have no clue as to Ororo's current status in the BP universe. Smh.
[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4872814]Thanks for the. It's a decent enough article if you ignore the fact that the author seems to have no clue as to Ororo's current status in the BP universe. Smh.[/QUOTE]
youre welcome boo. yea the writers of these articles tend to ignore anything related to her that doesnt occur in the xbooks with the exception of the divorce. I'm not sure if it its intentional or not but considering Top 10 Nerd knows this bit I'm not sure why CBR loves to gloss over what Coates has done.
Coates is not the first and only person to acknowledge the Baobab tree as part of significant African symbolism...in literature or art. Anyone who is interested in African lore, anyone who is literate and well-read...eg writers, would know that.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4873080]Coates is not the first and only person to acknowledge the Baobab tree as part of significant African symbolism...in literature or art. Anyone who is interested in African lore, anyone who is literate and well-read...eg writers, would know that.[/QUOTE]
It got introduced as a symbol in Nnendis' Shuri solo book. Unless you mean one of his other works.
I meant in general...in other literature and mediums, apart from comics. What Dauterman shows in GSXM he may very well have gotten from perusing Shuri but it's probably just as likely that he came up with that imagery on his own if he did any historical research on what an African veldt looks like and the significance of the Baobab tree. It's not an uncommon image or knowledge.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872671][url]
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This is what I'm talking about not taking the tiara away from Ororo. I can't believe some of you would want that removed from here when it's her iconography. This page sums up what I want to say. They only need to show the symbol, and YOU KNOW they're referring to Storm. Jean has the Phoenix, Betsy has the butterflies, the rest of the X-Men doesn't even have THAT.
[QUOTE=Cville;4873112]It got introduced as a symbol in Nnendis' Shuri solo book. Unless you mean one of his other works.[/QUOTE]
the baobab tree hasnt been used in the context of storm ever and i dont see it being a coincidence Hickman went for this seeing its use in black panther bith canonically and in the movies.
[QUOTE=sugarfree;4873548]This is what I'm talking about not taking the tiara away from Ororo. I can't believe some of you would want that removed from here when it's her iconography. This page sums up what I want to say. They only need to show the symbol, and YOU KNOW they're referring to Storm. Jean has the Phoenix, Betsy has the butterflies, the rest of the X-Men doesn't even have THAT.[/QUOTE]
yes I love her diadem represents her brand!! I love it!!
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4873573]the baobab tree hasnt been used in the context of storm ever and i dont see it being a coincidence Hickman went for this seeing its use in black panther bith canonically and in the movies.
yes I love her diadem represents her brand!! I love it!![/QUOTE]
Having lived in South Africa and Mozambique a baobab tree is not something unheard of and is a commonly referred tree in literature when talking about southern africa. It could be either that or sheer coincidence.
[QUOTE=ExodusCloak;4873749]Having lived in South Africa and Mozambique a baobab tree is not something unheard of and is a commonly referred tree in literature when talking about southern africa. It could be either that or sheer coincidence.[/QUOTE]
I didnt say it was unheard. I mentioned in the context of storm it has never been used as a symbol of any sort. Is that not true? Also what does outside literature as it relates to south Africa have to do with 616 canon wakanda and what is depicted in ororos mind?How it is depicted in literature doesnt reflect how it was represented in Shuris book or in Ororos mind. Find me an instance outside of the BP books where you see it shown or depicted in the xbooks relating to Ororo and then I think you would have a case.
And nothing is a coincidence with Hickman. He is very deliberate in the manner in which he conveys his story.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872731]the only reason I'm inclined to disagree, at least with you points about djalia, is the baobab tree has been a staple symbol in the BP bools:
[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/7b/f4/a77bf404ce0d9bbfa73c639d0073bf01.jpg[/img]
these trees as of late have been a wakandan thing and not necessarily tied to ororo in any way. aside from that I would agree with your assessment.
I wonder what storyline changes Hickman has in store for ororo and how it all may link to what we saw in her mind and to wakanda potentially.[/QUOTE]
That is not a baobab tree with the panthers in it(from the Djalia), that is an acacia tree, another iconic tree of the African savanna.
[IMG]https://cdn.britannica.com/62/156362-050-4E8FE282/Acacia-tree-savanna-Zimbabwe.jpg[/IMG]
I wonder what Hickman has in store. I hope he brings his A game; his previous Marvel work tends to focus on the male characters. His use of Mystique/Destiny, Moira, and Emma in the X-books so far are somewhat of an anomaly(but they are all morally dark grey, which is his preferred cup of tea). Not that Ororo can't or shouldn't have an edge too, but she is a bit more upright than he tends to do well with. I hope he surprises me in June(and I hope they actually use dialog next time, no more silent issues please!).
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4873984]That is not a baobab tree with the panthers in it(from the Djalia), that is an acacia tree, another iconic tree of the African savanna.
[IMG]https://cdn.britannica.com/62/156362-050-4E8FE282/Acacia-tree-savanna-Zimbabwe.jpg[/IMG]
I wonder what Hickman has in store. I hope he brings his A game; his previous Marvel work tends to focus on the male characters. His use of Mystique/Destiny, Moira, and Emma in the X-books so far are somewhat of an anomaly(but they are all morally dark grey, which is his preferred cup of tea). Not that Ororo can't or shouldn't have an edge too, but she is a bit more upright than he tends to do well with. I hope he surprises me in June(and I hope they actually use dialog next time, no more silent issues please!).[/QUOTE]
thanks for the clarification boo!
I hope he brings his a-game as well. with giant size I was pleasantly surprised with all the nuggets we got so that issue give me confidence we are going to get something great in her book. it seems like from the things I've seen from Hickman and Duggan that Ororo is going to have a greater presence in the Xbooks so it has me excited. As much as I liked the Giant size issue I need dialogue so we dont have to go back and forth on what the writer/artist was trying to convey to the reader.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4872594]you must havent heard what halle berry said about her ex husband. these things happen all the time unfortunately.
[url]https://www.business2community.com/social-buzz/halle-berry-taking-ex-court-racial-slurs-used-towards-daughter-01078842[/url][/QUOTE]
um idk if he used racial slurs towards his own child and if he did that means he's used them on Halle before he nutted inside her. So she trying to tell people she decided to stay in a relationship with a racist white man, get married, and let him get her pregnant? Nah no ma'am, something ain't adding up.
[QUOTE=metalclouds;4874116]um idk if he used racial slurs towards his own child and if he did that means he's used them on Halle before he nutted inside her. So she trying to tell people she decided to stay in a relationship with a racist white man, get married, and let him get her pregnant? Nah no ma'am, something ain't adding up.[/QUOTE]
Huh? You are making a complete assumption that he used them on Halle before they had a baby together. The article made no such claims. You are drawing conclusions based on assumptions that haven't even been claimed, much less substantiated. In fact, a quick google search on the issue shows indicates that he became vindictive and threatening AFTER the broke up.
Enh...the most iconic iteration of Storm...[B][I][U]for me[/U][/I][/B]...has been her Punk Phase, without the tiara. And she's been without it off and on for long periods at a time.
So...It's not that big a deal if they don't make it part of her look going forward.
That said, its lack of visual presence does not detract from its iconic status in any way.
I like the punk phase for her character arc, but I'm not very fond of the mohawk. I love the diadem, and was glad to see it brought back in that Kelly/Seagle run in the 90's. I don't think it is 100% necessary for her everyday looks, but I do hope they include it in her MCU origins[as a weather goddess] at least.
I love her current look but...It would be coolz if she rocked her previous looks...Classic, Punk, Outback, Jim Lee, Kelly/Seagle...on occasion.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4874578]I love her current look but...It would be coolz if she rocked her previous looks...Classic, Punk, Outback, Jim Lee, Kelly/Seagle...on occasion.[/QUOTE]
I like how Dodson is playing with that in FF/X-Men; letting them cycle through multiple looks. It's happening a tiny bit in the wider line, but it could be used more.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4874578]I love her current look but...It would be coolz if she rocked her previous looks...Classic, Punk, Outback, Jim Lee, Kelly/Seagle...on occasion.[/QUOTE]
Her current look would eat if the underside of the cape was red
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4874578]I love her current look but...It would be coolz if she rocked her previous looks...Classic, Punk, Outback, Jim Lee, Kelly/Seagle...on occasion.[/QUOTE]
Now I want to see her punk look with her ponytail.
[QUOTE=CookieOnTsunami;4874625]Her current look would eat if the underside of the cape was red[/QUOTE]
In general I like her current look(it's essentially her Outback costume/Jim Lee/X-Treme looks in one), but I think the yellow pipping 'X' shape is a bit too much(especially the line that awkwardly goes around her buckle). I like how some artist are downplaying it by using the lines, but not coloring them(like in her BP appearances), but I also agree that the inside of the cape should be red, and think further that the red X on her belly be removed or used elsewhere. I hated those X-Men Red outfits all having huge red X's, weirdly positioned on their bellies, and now, even after most of that cast moved on(even Jean for the most part), Ororo is still saddled with it.
Punk Rock Storm is the best
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4874616]I like how Dodson is playing with that in FF/X-Men; letting them cycle through multiple looks. It's happening a tiny bit in the wider line, but it could be used more.[/QUOTE]
Random Question.
Is your Name Yogaflame because of the Street Fighter Character Dhalsim???
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4874712]Punk Rock Storm is the best[/QUOTE]
Yes. He was my first favorite character, before I met Storm, and I actually like yoga and fire breathing.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;4874718]Yes. He was my first favorite character, before I met Storm, and I actually like yoga and fire breathing.
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Yeah, I was telling myself that CAN'T be a coincidence. I mean Yogaflame that's his special attack LOL.
Anyway, what is the conversation today
Her current look is the best one in a long time, i love her lockes, the color scheme is cute too.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4874670]In general I like her current look(it's essentially her Outback costume/Jim Lee/X-Treme looks in one), but I think the yellow pipping 'X' shape is a bit too much(especially the line that awkwardly goes around her buckle). I like how some artist are downplaying it by using the lines, but not coloring them(like in her BP appearances), but I also agree that the inside of the cape should be red, and think further that the red X on her belly be removed or used elsewhere. I hated those X-Men Red outfits all having huge red X's, weirdly positioned on their bellies, and now, even after most of that cast moved on(even Jean for the most part), Ororo is still saddled with it.[/QUOTE]
You always say what I'm trying to say. I love it.