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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5252590][COLOR="#000080"]What would concern me about a Storm solo is that with so many X-books currently out, you'd lose it in the mix.
It would have to really stand out and be more than just about her being a mutant or else it's just another book headed for the cancellation column. Her book should be many things and not just about one aspect or type.
She can do cosmic.
She can do social issues.
She can do environmental issues
She can do cultural issues.
She can do horror.
She can do just plain superheroics.
That ability to tap into different genres gives her more opportunities to appeal to readers.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Well SAID.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5252590][COLOR="#000080"]What would concern me about a Storm solo is that with so many X-books currently out, you'd lose it in the mix.
It would have to really stand out and be more than just about her being a mutant or else it's just another book headed for the cancellation column. Her book should be many things and not just about one aspect or type.
She can do cosmic.
She can do social issues.
She can do environmental issues
She can do cultural issues.
She can do horror.
She can do just plain superheroics.
That ability to tap into different genres gives her more opportunities to appeal to readers.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Exactly. I'm hoping as she explores we get to see the journey of a young mutant goddess coming into power. I want to see how other cosmic entities react to this touched child and what they can teach her. Ororo is being drawn to something like when she was to the Serengeti. What is it?
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5252583][COLOR="#000080"]You don't have to make her into that kind of goddess. Coates didn't say she was all powerful or immortal. He simply said she was a goddess. Asgardians aren't immortal, they're just extremely long-lived.
They can pretty much develop her as they see fit just from that premise..[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Storm's feats with just her normal powers already put her in an elite class among her mutant peers. If you added simple durability alone that would even further upset the balance. If Storm's bulletproof, she will break every story standing next to Scott and Logan. Her human durability is the counterpoint to 'makes galactic storms with her mind'. What would you add to her in full goddess mode? How would her divine nature play out in a mutant identity politics focused franchise?
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5252810]Storm's feats with just her normal powers already put her in an elite class among her mutant peers. If you added simple durability alone that would even further upset the balance. If Storm's bulletproof, she will break every story standing next to Scott and Logan. Her human durability is the counterpoint to 'makes galactic storms with her mind'. What would you add to her in full goddess mode? How would her divine nature play out in a mutant identity politics focused franchise?[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Nothing needs to be added. All gods or goddesses don't need to have the same qualities.
Sometimes having a higher plane of awareness, having recognizable divine qualities is enough. Again, Storm doesn't need to be immortal, invincible, impervious, all-knowing, all-seeing or omnipotent in order for her to be a goddess.
She already has power and divine grace. Having a higher plane of awareness is probably all she needs.[/COLOR]
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I always thought Oshtur was the reason for her goddess powers. Even without the godhead, I thought she was the reason for Storm's ancestors' magic?
Her divine powers are a standard part of her. It goes beyond even her mutant DNA. For some reason, these powers have been dormant over the decades. This is why everyone said she had a huge potential for magic.
But here's a scenario
Since we know her godhead is actually a primary source and not from any other place. How powerful do you think Storm would be if she unlocked her godhead at an early age and wasn't a mutant?
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Yea I don't think that just because Storm is a goddess she needs to have the standard powers of Thor or whatever. I don't have a problem with her being a glass cannon, but I think her godhead should give her a mystical awareness that attunes her to imbalances in the natural world. So she should naturally sense demons, feel disturbances in the natural order, and see black magic no matter how well hidden. This expands on her sensitivity to nature that jwatson brought up. We've already seen her do stuff like this in the past, but it should be made an explicit part of her godly awareness and work at a higher level.
In terms of actual combat, I'm fine with what we got so far. Storm should be able to imbue her mutant weather abilities with the divine white magic of Oshtur passed down through her godhead. So her lightning and winds can be just as effective against dark magic as they are regular enemies. I wouldn't be mad at her learning an ancestral spell or two, but that's not necessary.
I find the way her godhead works through her X-gene really interesting. I wonder if that's unique or something that only the most powerful Wind Riders can do. Claremont did say once that every few generations or so her bloodline produced a woman with extraordinary abilities, some of whom were mutants. Is it possible that the woman who first received Oshtur's godhead was a mutant? Maybe the nature-related X-gene is some kind of amplifier or focusing tool for the godhead that makes it even more powerful.
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[QUOTE=chief12d;5252898]Yea I don't think that just because Storm is a goddess she needs to have the standard powers of Thor or whatever. I don't have a problem with her being a glass cannon, but I think her godhead should give her a mystical awareness that attunes her to imbalances in the natural world. So she should naturally sense demons, feel disturbances in the natural order, and see black magic no matter how well hidden. This expands on her sensitivity to nature that jwatson brought up. We've already seen her do stuff like this in the past, but it should be made an explicit part of her godly awareness and work at a higher level.
In terms of actual combat, I'm fine with what we got so far. Storm should be able to imbue her mutant weather abilities with the divine white magic of Oshtur passed down through her godhead. So her lightning and winds can be just as effective against dark magic as they are regular enemies. I wouldn't be mad at her learning an ancestral spell or two, but that's not necessary.
I find the way her godhead works through her X-gene really interesting. I wonder if that's unique or something that only the most powerful Wind Riders can do. Claremont did say once that every few generations or so her bloodline produced a woman with extraordinary abilities, some of whom were mutants. Is it possible that the woman who first received Oshtur's godhead was a mutant? Maybe the nature-related X-gene is some kind of amplifier or focusing tool for the godhead that makes it even more powerful.[/QUOTE]
I think that would be a problem.
Infusing her Godpower with her Mutant power can be a problem. Because how can we tell the difference? And do we know WHEN she is activating this power or if it’s always in play.
If Storm’s Godpower is always active and she hits someone like I don’t know Ironman and he survives. That would prove Storm’s Godpower is Weak and we can’t have that. LOL
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5252590][COLOR="#000080"][U]What would concern me about a Storm solo is that with so many X-books currently out, you'd lose it in the mix.[/U]
It would have to really stand out and be more than just about her being a mutant or else it's just another book headed for the cancellation column. Her book should be many things and not just about one aspect or type.
She can do cosmic.
She can do social issues.
She can do environmental issues
She can do cultural issues.
She can do horror.
She can do just plain superheroics.
That ability to tap into different genres gives her more opportunities to appeal to readers.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Then you need to do an OGN. Just like Goldie Vance and Black AF America's Sweetheart. BOTH have trouble staying in stock at my comic book store.
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[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5252921]I think that would be a problem.
Infusing her Godpower with her Mutant power can be a problem. Because how can we tell the difference? And do we know WHEN she is activating this power or if it’s always in play.
If Storm’s Godpower is always active and she hits someone like I don’t know Ironman and he survives. That would prove Storm’s Godpower is Weak and we can’t have that. LOL[/QUOTE]
I feel like you sidestep that issue by having it so the weather effects are a different color. Storm's lightning tends to be either white or yellow, maybe her mystical lightning could come in shades of purple/pink? I don't think the goddess aspect of her powers should always be active, like with spellcasting, it makes sense for it to be a conscious act on her part.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5252196]Wein and Cockrum[I] did [/I]intend for her to actually be an ancient, timeless African goddess. It was Claremont who made her from Harlem. Who added the claustrophobia and Cairo street thief background. Even still, Claremont considered her a '3-dimensional goddess', and always hinted at something more.
You have to realize making Storm an immortal, all-powerful goddess makes her unwieldy in a [B]team[/B] setting. Even Thor, paragon of white male power, gets nerfed all the time in Avengers stories. With a whole roster to attend to, you can't just let him do the thing in a swing of his magic hammer. At least he usually has [B]his own book [/B]to stretch those godly legs, and it's been that way since his inception. Wanting a team mutant team book to focus on Omega goddess Ororo just isn't very reasonable. She would really need her own book for that. Or at the very least a writer who wants to drape the team around her. We were blessed to get those Claremont stories. Without the combination of editorial/corporate push and a passionate creative team, that might be the best we get out of Storm.[/QUOTE]
Intentions unfortunately don't have any bearing on canon. Before Coates retconned her to being an actual goddess it was established she was a goddess only in name:
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to your point about stories where she is all-powerful acknowledging that she is a goddess doesn't mean she would be depicted by some of the characteristics you mentioned. even in Coates' BP where her godhead is embraced she isn't immortal and even with her powers still have limitations. Yes it would be nice to see such aspects explored in a solo but the Shuri and Black Panther books indicate her gift of godhead can be discussed in a of ensemble characters.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5252200]I feel like there's not enough evidence (from Coates at least) to support Storm having distant ancestry to Gaea. All the imagery with her character is light, white, the sky, and balance, which are all traits of Oshtur. I'm more likely to believe she's is the progenitor of Storm's bloodline than Gaea, and even that seems iffy. The godhead being called a "gift" and "blessing" at one point hint Storm's matrilineal line was blessed with godly powers rather than them being actual descendants of any Elder God. I could be absolutely wrong on that but I think Storm is 100% human/mutant but accesses divine magic in a roundabout way. Hence why technically she's still a goddess.
Hercules isn't a child of Gaea but he claims godhood via a Skyfather, who were all created from the godstuff of dead Elder Gods (siblings of Gaea). So he's a close nephew lol. But you got me, gods are generally those descended from Gaea or a Skyfather (in the case of demi-gods)[/QUOTE]
going to defer to the post yoga made on the rise of the marvel earth gods. being a god doesn't mean you have to be directly linked to Gaea. Man's mind with the Demiurge allowed the gods of marvel to take form.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5252206]In old Marvel cosmology, it was [B]the worship and imagination of the people[/B] channeling the 'atmospheric divinity' left over from Atum that [B]created[/B] and gave power to all the worlds pantheons. [IMG]https://i.stack.imgur.com/T7Peu.jpg[/IMG]
Anyone or anything can become a god, since all of creation is godstuff. It's ultimately a matter of the divinity being observed/recognized/celebrated by human consciousness.[/QUOTE]
100% agreed.
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5252583][COLOR="#000080"]You don't have to make her into that kind of goddess. Coates didn't say she was all powerful or immortal. He simply said she was a goddess. Asgardians aren't immortal, they're just extremely long-lived.
They can pretty much develop her as they see fit just from that premise..[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
100% agreed here too though some enhancements on her durability would be nice lol
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^This is exactly why her divinity has never been more than suggested in the last 45 years. :o
When Marvel gets around to actually defining her mother's culture, and their actual history and ability, their connection to the Bright Lady, maybe then we can circle back to what's up with her own divinity. I'd spend twelve issues just exploring the basics.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5252986]^This is exactly why her divinity has never been more than suggested in the last 45 years. :o
When Marvel gets around to actually defining her mother's culture, and their actual history and ability, their connection to the Bright Lady, maybe then we can circle back to what's up with her own divinity. I'd spend twelve issues just exploring the basics.[/QUOTE]
well coates has put forth the foundation from which her divinity can begin to be explored but with what I've seen from the xoffices it doesn't seem that would be happening anytime soon.
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Lmao it's always funny when Bast calls her a pretend goddess.
I can't find the issue but I believe Thor said Ororo was concerned a DemiGoddess in Asgard.
Ororo could be a AvatarGodling.
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I believe Hercules called her a fake goddess too. characters been shading her throughout the mu for years now lol
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5253025]Lmao it's always funny when Bast calls her a pretend goddess.
I can't find the issue but I believe Thor said Ororo was concerned a DemiGoddess in Asgard.
Ororo could be a [B]Avatar-Godling[/B].[/QUOTE]
That makes the most sense given what we know. But since all known gods are powered to some extent by belief and drawn from the elder gods, I'd say goddess/demigoddess works just as well. I'm still convinced Storm's godhead is just a piece of Oshtur's power lodged within her soul/body and passed down from mother to daughter. An artificial god-gene in the form of a mystical blessing. Similar to how Sinister is a mutant even though he just inserted an X-gene into his DNA.
Storm's omega-level mutant powers (which may also be hereditary) focus and amplify those powers, which are the ability to produce and control divine white magic from within herself. These abilities have ascended to godhood levels through the belief people have in her. Mankind's thoughts are themselves laced with divinity and the immense awe people have in Ororo's presence along with her ancestry allows her to become a goddess in her own right.
In certain ways she's not that different from Bast lol so in hindsight she looks like she's just hating. The only difference between them is Bast ascended through direct descent from an Elder God and the worship of early Wakandans during an unwinnable war. Storm ascended through the worship of villagers unable to provide for themselves, which caused her innate divinity to be activated.
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[QUOTE=chief12d;5253050]That makes the most sense given what we know. But since all known gods are powered to some extent by belief and drawn from the elder gods, I'd say goddess/demigoddess works just as well. I'm still convinced Storm's godhead is just a piece of Oshtur's power lodged within her soul/body and passed down from mother to daughter. An artificial god-gene in the form of a mystical blessing. Similar to how Sinister is a mutant even though he just inserted an X-gene into his DNA.
Storm's omega-level mutant powers (which may also be hereditary) focus and amplify those powers, which are the ability to produce and control divine white magic from within herself. These abilities have ascended to godhood levels through the belief people have in her. Mankind's thoughts are themselves laced with divinity and the immense awe people have in Ororo's presence along with her ancestry allows her to become a goddess in her own right.
[COLOR="#000080"]In certain ways she's not that different from Bast lol so in hindsight she looks like she's just hating[/COLOR]. The only difference between them is Bast ascended through direct descent from an Elder God and the worship of early Wakandans during an unwinnable war. Storm ascended through the worship of villagers unable to provide for themselves, which caused her innate divinity to be activated.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]But have we really seen Bast using her full powers? We don't know how powerful she is.
Again, I compare her to Crom. You can pray to her but she's likely to tell you if you can't help your f*cking self why should I help you?
When she actually sees you doing something to help yourself, then she's likely to step in.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5253055][COLOR="#000080"]But have we really seen Bast using her full powers? We don't know how powerful she is.
Again, I compare her to Crom. You can pray to her but she's likely to tell you if you can't help your f*cking self why should I help you?
When she actually sees you doing something to help yourself, then she's likely to step in.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I really mean the same in terms of origin not power lol. Most in this thread probably disagree but I think Bast is comfortably more powerful than Storm. Recent portrayals haven't shown that, but Bast is a war goddess and the chief deity to millions of ultra-religious people. You're right Bast isn't an active god, she's a damn cat lol.
I think she cares about her worshippers, but insofar as they're willing to give her praise, hence why she and the Orisha left Wakanda Prime for Intergalactic Wakanda. There's a certain level of coldness and greed that comes with godhood that I don't think Storm will ever accept because she's a people person. That might explain why Bast kinda looks down on Ororo. Storm could definitely be more powerful than she is and just lounge around all day in godly luxury, but she'd never ignore humanity the way Bast tends to do 99% of the time.
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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5252373]From your lips to the writers and the Editorials.
Most of us here believe that she is a goddess of Balance and Life, including the domain of the sky and air. I still believe that they are building her up to a goddess because a Goddess has powers over several domains, they have so far just one or two. I believe when we reach the magical number 3 we will see her fully-fledged godlike power.
Actually, most of the Storm fans are quite intrigued by her godhood. I personally hope she gets as powerful as Thor without a magic hammer, so she can put him in his place, but hey that just me and perhaps I want Thor's fans to be put in place since they've been so offending towards Storm. We had a few people here, who didn't like Storm being a Goddess but all of them mysteriously disappeared shortly after their posts. :D[/QUOTE]
She's already more powerful than Thor with the hammer.
Just a country praying to her she defeated one of the top hell lords in marvel.
Other ppl who aren't from Wakanda are acknowledging her godhood.
Storm doesn't even need people to actively pray to her. As shown when she first activated her godhood she used their hopes in her. The databook basically said as long as you believe in her that amplifies her powers.
Which means Storm outclasses Thor in power except stats. Which haven't been shown yet. It stated Storm should have unlimited strength like Hulk or Mephisto.
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5253088]She's already more powerful than Thor with the hammer.
Just a country praying to her she defeated one of the top hell lords in marvel.
Other ppl who aren't from Wakanda are acknowledging her godhood.
Storm doesn't even need people to actively pray to her. As shown when she first activated her godhood she used their hopes in her. The databook basically said as long as you believe in her that amplifies her powers.
Which means Storm outclasses Thor in power except stats. Which haven't been shown yet. It stated Storm should have unlimited strength like Hulk or Mephisto.[/QUOTE]
where did you see it say she should have unlimited strength like hulk or mephisto? ru referring to her willpower?
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5253088]She's already more powerful than Thor with the hammer.
[COLOR="#A9A9A9"]Just a country praying to her she defeated one of the top hell lords in marvel.
Other ppl who aren't from Wakanda are acknowledging her godhood.
Storm doesn't even need people to actively pray to her. As shown when she first activated her godhood she used their hopes in her. The databook basically said as long as you believe in her that amplifies her powers.[/COLOR]
Which means Storm outclasses Thor in power except stats. Which haven't been shown yet. [B]It stated Storm should have unlimited strength like Hulk or Mephisto.[/B][/QUOTE]
What stated that Ororo should have unlimited strength like Hulk or Mephisto?!?
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5253088]She's already more powerful than Thor with the hammer.
Just a country praying to her she defeated one of the top hell lords in marvel.
Other ppl who aren't from Wakanda are acknowledging her godhood.
Storm doesn't even need people to actively pray to her. As shown when she first activated her godhood she used their hopes in her. The databook basically said as long as you believe in her that amplifies her powers.
[B]Which means Storm outclasses Thor in power except stats. Which haven't been shown yet. It stated Storm should have unlimited strength like Hulk or Mephisto.[/B][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]What? :confused:
And Storm should have unlimited strength too, like the Hulk? The madder she gets the stronger she gets(and turn a darker shade of green)?[/COLOR]
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I think this is an interesting discussion. I personally would like to see Storm be somewhat unique in her description as a goddess which leads to her confusing classification. Storm is the merging point of mutant, magic, and god power. In her is all three. I feel like this merging manifestation could be deeply explored in a solo. (I think this could also explain why Storm is often sought after by villainous men. Not only is she incredibly beautiful and regal but they also can sense the immense power within her).
Hints
Mutant Power - Passed down from latent mutant David Munroe.
Magic Power - Inherited from N'Dare.
Goddess Power - Storm could actually be the reincarnation/connected to a goddess of life that wanted to be more in tune with human experience. Therefore, she gave up her godhood to experience life as a human being, however, because of her divinity, power continues to seek her out (mutant and magic) and try to remind her of her past glory. This desire for human experience is the reason that Storm has basically walked all forms of life, from thief, orphan, queen, etc. Other gods, however, resent her because of how willing she was to give up her godhood; an act they see as ultimately irresponsible. Some, more hostile towards her, often refer to her as a fake god etc. The situation in Coates book reawakens her goddess form but perhaps as a punishment for her decision, she can never fully live in those powers (at least not in her mortal form), yet she has the ability to call upon these powers when necessary and transcend her mortal limitations - like she did in Rogue Storm for example. It would also explain why nature favors her and why she can wrestle control away from other gods like Trion. Also, because of her closer connection with the human experience, she is at her most powerful whenever she is empowered by human belief.
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[QUOTE=Sdawg;5253205]I think this is an interesting discussion. I personally would like to see Storm be somewhat unique in her description as a goddess which leads to her confusing classification. Storm is the merging point of mutant, magic, and god power. In her is all three. I feel like this merging manifestation could be deeply explored in a solo. (I think this could also explain why Storm is often sought after by villainous men. Not only is she incredibly beautiful and regal but they also can sense the immense power within her).
Hints
Mutant Power - Passed down from latent mutant David Munroe.
Magic Power - Inherited from N'Dare.
Goddess Power - Storm could actually be the reincarnation/connected to a goddess of life that wanted to be more in tune with human experience. Therefore, she gave up her godhood to experience life as a human being, however, because of her divinity power continues to seek her out (mutant and magic) and try to remind her of her past glory. This desire is the reason that Storm has basically walked all froms of life, from thief, orphan, queen, etc. Other gods, however, resent her because of how willing she was to give up her godhood an act they see as ultimately irresponsible. Some, more hostile towards her, often refer to her as a fake god etc. The situation in Coates book reawakens her goddess form but perhaps as a punishment for her decision, she can never fully live in those powers (at least not in her mortal form), yet she has the ability to call upon these powers when necessary and transcend her mortal limitations. Like she did in Rogue Storm for example. It would also explain why nature favors her and why she can wrestle control away from other gods like Trion. Also, because of her closer connection with the human experience, she is at her most powerful whenever she is empowered by human belief.[/QUOTE]
Well damn, can we just send this to print.
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5252933]Then you need to do an OGN. Just like Goldie Vance and Black AF America's Sweetheart. BOTH have trouble staying in stock at my comic book store.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I'd like to see Marvel revive some of their imprint lines similar to DC's Black Label and do books in different formats.
The OGN sounds like a good kickstarter to an ongoing.[/COLOR]
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Here it said Wakanda gods have immeasurable strength which is what I meant. Not unlimited. I made comparison beings have Mephisto and Hulk are stated to have immeasurable strength.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5253201][COLOR="#000080"]What? :confused:
And Storm should have unlimited strength too, like the Hulk? The madder she gets the stronger she gets(and turn a darker shade of green)?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I posted above
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Here it said Wakanda gods have immeasurable strength which is what I meant. Not unlimited. I made comparison beings have Mephisto and Hulk are stated to have immeasurable strength.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Do you mean immeasurable power?
I'm not too keen immeasurable power without having some kind of constraints but definitely don't want her to have immeasurable strength. Her powers are already at the top of the scales[/COLOR]
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Here it said Wakanda gods have immeasurable strength which is what I meant. [COLOR="#A9A9A9"]Not unlimited. I made comparison beings have Mephisto and Hulk are stated to have immeasurable strength.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
But, Ororo is not Wakandan.
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[QUOTE=Micabe;5253377]But, Ororo is not Wakandan.[/QUOTE]
She's a Wakanda Goddess now. The very scan says it.
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5253388]She's a Wakanda Goddess now. The very scan says it.[/QUOTE]
yes indeed. being of a particular faith dies not require the believer or diety to presume in one nation. you can look to the major religions such as the abrahamic ones for proof if this.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5252561][URL="https://www.newsweek.com/earth-atmosphere-moon-apollo-nasa-esa-geocorona-1338611"]https://www.newsweek.com/earth-atmosphere-moon-apollo-nasa-esa-geocorona-1338611[/URL]
I'mma need to see Storm fly to the moon and make it rain now! ;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=jwatson;5252565]And Scott and Jean already got a home there for her to visit. LOL
The article also makes me think of the FF issue where she was gathering the hydrogen molecules in space.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what happens in my solo, Storm ascends into space as her powers follow her and she travels to the moon at light speed and says hi to Jean and Cyclops through the dome :D
And that video clip was very educational thank you!
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Thank the Goddess the actual XM writers already have their plans laid out for Storm's upcoming development arc.
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I was just rereading destruction and you can really see the shame on the wakandians faces as Storm walks away. Looking at that panel of her and wolverine i could just imagine what they felt seeing her come in with her face and body that battered returning the sword. That panel was so powerful.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5253513]Thank the Goddess the actual XM writers already have their plans laid out for Storm's upcoming development arc.[/QUOTE]
That’s because they have been talking to Coates to try and figure what the Gameplan is.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5253513]Thank the Goddess the actual XM writers already have their plans laid out for Storm's upcoming development arc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah i for one can't wait. I don't think there has every been a time when the X-men have been this free. I mean att he end of the day because of the Krakoa situation Xavier basically told Scott, Jean and them to go live because the mutant situation is now a Krakoan problem, not one for the X-men. Like these stories could be anything. I'm really imagining while the X-men are in space they may be suprised to see exactly what they return to with reign of X. It feels like certain x-men are strategically being set up off earth or going off earth and the seeds have been planted since the 1st few issues of new mutants.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5253756]Yeah i for one can't wait. I don't think there has every been a time when the X-men have been this free. I mean att he end of the day because of the Krakoa situation Xavier basically told Scott, Jean and them to go live because the mutant situation is now a Krakoan problem, not one for the X-men. Like these stories could be anything. I'm really imagining while the X-men are in space they may be suprised to see exactly what they return to with reign of X. It feels like certain x-men are strategically being set up off earth or going off earth and the seeds have been planted since the 1st few issues of new mutants.[/QUOTE]
Me too.
I love X-Men in Space stories and it's been forever and an age that we got Ororo in space doing things.
Personally at this point I'm so over the whole Goddess/notGoddess debate, just give me a good Storm story. I really don't need Storm (or any of my other faves) to be the Be-All and End-All.
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[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5253749]That’s because they have been talking to Coates to try and figure what the Gameplan is.[/QUOTE]
The way Coates writes monthly comics is entirely out of touch with what the current era of X-Men is about. He tends to write 10+ issue arcs with expansive supporting casts that more often than not are several months behind what the rest of the MU is doing. He gets some leeway with his writing of BP and Steve because they (like most prominent Avengers) always exist out of synch with their ensemble appearances due to their solos. His runs are just more insular than normal and make less references to stuff happening outside his books.
But in a time where the X-books are all about synergy and making sure there's a sense of continuity month to month, Coates can't keep up. He'd have Storm in Kenya for half the year struggling to accept her godhead while in Marauders she's liberating Nigerian mutants with not a peep about her struggles. If he gets a Storm solo it'll probably be after Hickman is done with his story and when the X-office gets more lax about continuity.
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Oop shots Fired!!! Lol
Don’t mind me I’m just being silly
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[QUOTE=chief12d;5253827]The way Coates writes monthly comics is entirely out of touch with what the current era of X-Men is about. He tends to write 10+ issue arcs with expansive supporting casts that more often than not are several months behind what the rest of the MU is doing. He gets some leeway with his writing of BP and Steve because they (like most prominent Avengers) always exist out of synch with their ensemble appearances due to their solos. His runs are just more insular than normal and make less references to stuff happening outside his books.
But in a time where the X-books are all about synergy and making sure there's a sense of continuity month to month, Coates can't keep up. He'd have Storm in Kenya for half the year struggling to accept her godhead while in Marauders she's liberating Nigerian mutants with not a peep about her struggles. If he gets a Storm solo it'll probably be after Hickman is done with his story and when the X-office gets more lax about continuity.[/QUOTE]
LOL that is true. However Coates did roll his BP story into current X-Men continuity. With this HUGE break he was given regarding BP I wouldn’t be surprised if he went back and tweaked a few things from his story to line up with what the X-men are doing. After all Coates does have control over Storm more than the X-Office Gerry Duggan confirmed that in a interview recently.
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That is not what Duggan said. He said he didn't [B]want [/B] to conflict too much with what Coates was doing, which is why he didn't have Storm go punk/mohawk again, as was his intent for her Marauders début. It's professional courtesy since Coates started his story first(or an excuse to sideline Ororo for Emma/Shaw/Kitty), not saying Coates has ultimate authority on the character. And that's from over a year ago. Obviously Vita had no such compulsions.
