Ororo Munroe: Storm Appreciation 2020

[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5065872]The Horseman of Death is NOT the actual God Anubis himself.[/QUOTE]

Hey, The Sentry was a Horseman of Death and he can split gods in half.

Literally.


But yeah, he is not Anubis but he can have a connection with Anubis (or maybe he is just a cosplayer).

[QUOTE=Dipter;5065874]Hasn't it been implied in the MU that the biblical four horsemen were inspired by Apocalypse's horsemen? Is it possible that the mythology of Anubis is based on this Horseman, which would make him a god of sorts?[/QUOTE]

Nah, Anubis really exists, just like Thor.

[QUOTE=Glio;5065869]Anubis is the God of Death. The one on the cover is Death, Horseman of Apocalypse.

He may simply be a mutant who decides to dress as Anubis to represent death. Just like today someone would dress up as the Grim Reaper. Perhaps he was an Anubis priest. Maybe he's an Anubis avatar.

We cannot know.[/QUOTE]

gotcha. yea I would prefer the actual god of death but this does beg to question is he the being who corrupts storm mind resulting to her turning to opponent side?

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[URL="https://www.biddytarot.com/tarot-card-meanings/minor-arcana/suit-of-cups/eight-of-cups/"]Eight of Cups Meaning[/URL]

[QUOTE=Glio;5065880]Nah, Anubis really exists, just like Thor.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that all of the gods are real in the MU. My bad.

[QUOTE=Dipter;5065874]Hasn't it been implied in the MU that the biblical four horsemen were inspired by Apocalypse's horsemen? Is it possible that the mythology of Anubis is based on this Horseman, which would make him a god of sorts?[/QUOTE]

you know I will be so honest my knowledge of the marvel gods stink. lol however, I do believe ibrecsll either reading in uncanny or xmen or maybe xfactor saying that his actions throughout history resulted in humans faith in some degree or form. so you may bring on to something here.

[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5065876]It doesn't get any clearer than this...
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And, all are loyal to Apocalypse.

[QUOTE=Dipter;5065888]Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that all of the gods are real in the MU. My bad.[/QUOTE]

I just checked and Anubis has had very very few appearances but it is relatively normal, the Egyptian pantheon is very little explored in Marvel. As I said, if you are not Bast, Khonshu or Set, you hardly have any cameos.


I believe that the Masked Woman is an ancestor of Ororo, not Ororo. We know that she has a mystical lineage that dates back thousands of years.

[QUOTE=Glio;5065900]I just checked and Anubis has had very very few appearances but it is relatively normal, the Egyptian pantheon is very little explored in Marvel. As I said, if you are not Bast, Khonshu or Set, you hardly have any cameos.


I believe that the Masked Woman is an ancestor of Ororo, not Ororo. We know that she has a mystical lineage that dates back thousands of years.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but the Eight of Cup actually resembles abandonment, also emotional fulfilment and wholeness are lacking. There is more to it.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5065887]gotcha. yea I would prefer the actual god of death but this does beg to question is he the being who corrupts storm mind resulting to her turning to opponent side?[/QUOTE]

There better not be any mind-control/brainwashing involved. Duggan is teasing some epic Storm moments in X of Swords, but if 'Ro spends the entire event as a puppet working the villains I will be so disappointed.

[QUOTE=Dipter;5065911]There better not be any mind-control/brainwashing involved. Duggan is teasing some epic Storm moments in X of Swords, but if 'Ro spends the entire event as a puppet working the villains I will be so disappointed.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with you. But he confirmed if I am not mistaken that she will not stay unconscious, most likely she will not be mind controlled either...

yeah thats not storm, first ororo isnt being abandoned by anyone, thats the whole point of the giant size issue that cuts her from the cards description, she also doesnt really fit any of the elements of the card.
the way the mystery woman is presented in the card, the blue apocalypse esque is presented as a light side, something good with a dove and a wolf, but it becomes dark and corrupted as the animals die and the flowers grow black and thorny, this implies a transformation trough time and corruption, the abandonment clearly by apocalypse as his people struggle to protect arrako agaist the threat and become corrupted by it.
if ororo becomes affected by the virus, that wouldnt be a good thing, that would be the corruption.

and her visual design on the cover shares elements with the horsemen, like how a clan would dress together with the same pitch black oily skin, clawed hands and covered faces, so whatever conection, but they are related.

and second, they wouldnt reveal the plot twist right at the first chapter of the story, because giant size storm is released right as excalibur 12 does, on the same day, so if we saw her with that apearence, the story would be immediatly spoiled, ororo even seeks out a sword to wield for krakoa and theres a clear 10 vs 10 element going here betwen the two set of swordsman.
so I can say, that with this cover of a playfull dance betwen ororo and death, that she is not the woman that is redacted.

[QUOTE=vladko92;5065910]Yeah but the Eight of Cup actually resembles abandonment, also emotional fulfilment and wholeness are lacking. There is more to it.[/QUOTE]

I just checked Eight of Cup Upright: Disappointment, abandonment, withdrawal, escapism.

I think Apocalypse left Ororo's ancestor in Arakko's charge and promised to return to rescue them.

After thousands of years, they feel abandoned by their master and have decided to rebel against him.

[QUOTE=Dipter;5065911]There better not be any mind-control/brainwashing involved. Duggan is teasing some epic Storm moments in X of Swords, but if 'Ro spends the entire event as a puppet working the villains I will be so disappointed.[/QUOTE]

I 100% agree to this. Reading on the tarot cards mraning and seeing her dancing with his horseman does have me a bit concerned that there will be some mind control/brain washing of some sort. I dont like it one bit.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5065928]I 100% agree to this. Reading on the tarot cards mraning and seeing her dancing with his horseman does have me a bit concerned that there will be some mind control/brain washing of some sort. I dont like it one bit.[/QUOTE]

but the tarot card speaks of abandonment and disapointment, where is ororo being abandoned, quite the contrary she has people rallying around her to protect her and save her.
this mystery woman is already related to these horseman, she has the same physical atributes that showcasse a level of corruption, its like 96 % not ororo

I just checked and...

Ororo has an ancestor who was a sorceress, Egyptian and used something similar to the tarot.

[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ashake_(Egyptian)_(Earth-616[/url])

[QUOTE=Ferro;5065933]but the tarot card speaks of abandonment and disapointment, where is ororo being abandoned, quite the contrary she has people rallying around her to protect her and save her.
this mystery woman is already related to these horseman, she has the same physical atributes that showcasse a level of corruption, its like 96 % not ororo[/QUOTE]

It's all speculation at this point and we dont know but maybe something happens in the future that leaves her feeling this way in regards to Krakoa.Maybe there is some resentment from her body being implanted with the virus that either results in her death or near death and the horseman plays upon this and resentment of Xavier many years ago in convincing her to join the xmen. The fact that she is dancing with his horseman and that the name of that horseman is interesting and does seem to indicate it could be storm.

[QUOTE=Glio;5065941]I just checked and...

Ororo has an ancestor who was a sorceress, Egyptian and used something similar to the tarot.

[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ashake_(Egyptian)_(Earth-616[/url])[/QUOTE]

your link isnt working but Ashake most definitely is also a likely candidate for the mysterious character on the right of cups tarot card.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5065957]It's all speculation at this point and we dont know but maybe something happens in the future that leaves her feeling this way in regards to Krakoa.Maybe there is some resentment from her body being implanted with the virus that either results in her death or near death and the horseman plays upon this and resentment of Xavier many years ago in convincing her to join the xmen. The fact that she is dancing with his horseman and that the name of that horseman is interesting and does seem to indicate it could be storm.[/QUOTE]

but like, why would she be standing with them in stasis and then be "seduced" in a chapter after, it makes very little sense to me.

A huge storyline that Storm in some way is hopefully a significant part of? It sounds too good to be true, I wonder if her giant size issue being pushed far back and closer to X of swords is not a coincidence.

however, its nice to have stuff, concrete stuff to speculate about.
These two women are 100 % related, but they wouldny show this transformation on the free issue and then say that her name is redacted if it was storm, because her giant size issue is right as the first chapter releases, spoiling her identity right away for a woman who hasnt even been to arrako leading the two horsemen and the arrakoans?
I sincerelly doubt it.

Wow you can tell Storm is Dautermann's favorite character. The amount of covers he's drawn of her is astronomical

[QUOTE=Ferro;5065976]however, its nice to have stuff, concrete stuff to speculate about.[/QUOTE]

I can't even remember the last event Storm was important to.

Even on IvsX it felt like she was taking orders from Magneto and Emma.

[QUOTE=Ferro;5065972]but like, why would she be standing with them in stasis and then be "seduced" in a chapter after, it makes very little sense to me.[/QUOTE]

it may be brainwashing by way of different internal struggles she has regarding the krakoan ways. I think the brainwashing would come before the status stuff. if that is ororo. another thing could be that character is her ancestor ashake

[QUOTE=ShepardOakenshieldPrime;5065975]A huge storyline that Storm in some way is hopefully a significant part of? It sounds too good to be true, I wonder if her giant size issue being pushed far back and closer to X of swords is not a coincidence.[/QUOTE]

ikr it is really hard to be optimistic that there is a story for 'Ro when history tells us otherwise BUT that cover alone makes me a willing fool lol I'm going to believe. :cool:

[QUOTE=Havok83;5065977]Wow you can tell Storm is Dautermann's favorite character. The amount of covers he's drawn of her is astronomical[/QUOTE]

He always draws her looking so divine. He is my first choice of artist for a future Storm solo.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5065984]it may be brainwashing by way of different internal struggles she has regarding the krakoan ways. I think the brainwashing would come before the status stuff. if that is ororo. another thing could be that character is her ancestor ashake[/QUOTE]

I really dont think its ororo when she even has a sword and a chapter to get it.
the card has a wolf a dove, and a type of clothing storm has never used, none of that is associated with her, i think she is an ancestor or a thematic dark mirror, but I REALY doubt its storm and her identity is revealed right at chapter one of the event, and im not even sure the arrakoans are the villains.

[QUOTE=ShepardOakenshieldPrime;5065975]A huge storyline that Storm in some way is hopefully a significant part of? It sounds too good to be true, I wonder if her giant size issue being pushed far back and closer to X of swords is not a coincidence.[/QUOTE]

I dont think its coincidence and we also have tchalla and shuri appearing in marauders which seems to connect to what coates was establishing. I'm cautiously optimistic though we've been down this road before.

[QUOTE=Ferro;5065976]however, its nice to have stuff, concrete stuff to speculate about.
These two women are 100 % related, but they wouldny show this transformation on the free issue and then say that her name is redacted if it was storm, because her giant size issue is right as the first chapter releases, spoiling her identity right away for a woman who hasnt even been to arrako leading the two horsemen and the arrakoans?
I sincerelly doubt it.[/QUOTE]

you may be right time will tell. either way I'm happy it seems storm is finally getting some attention from the xoffices.

[QUOTE=Havok83;5065977]Wow you can tell Storm is Dautermann's favorite character. The amount of covers he's drawn of her is astronomical[/QUOTE]


it's because he knows he slays whenever he draws her like no one else can lol

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5065984]it may be brainwashing by way of different internal struggles she has regarding the krakoan ways. I think the brainwashing would come before the status stuff. if that is ororo. another thing could be that character is her ancestor ashake[/QUOTE]

For all we know mind manipulation could be part of Death's power set so brainwashing is a possibility. I think it's more likely there's some sort of tense alliance between the swordbearers of Arrako and the heroes of Krakoa and Death is trying to manipulate her with charm for one reason or another. Or vice versa. Storm seems to be very connected to the classified masked woman so maybe he takes a special interest in her.

But find it very interesting that in Marauders 13 T'Challa is with Storm while Marauders 14 seems to show her romantically involved with someone else. Kinda messy considering Coates hasn't completed his story yet and we don't know how he planned to cap off their relationship. But I guess the show must go on lol.

[QUOTE=Ferro;5065992]I really dont think its ororo when she even has a sword and a chapter to get it.
the card has a wolf a dove, and a type of clothing storm has never used, none of that is associated with her, i think she is an ancestor or a thematic dark mirror, but I REALY doubt its storm and her identity is revealed right at chapter one of the event, and im not even sure the arrakoans are the villains.[/QUOTE]

the card represents the balance between life and death. the left side is life the right side is death (living animals and dead ones respectively). storm is the goddess who preserves the balance of all natural things. there is a possibity this card is in reference to her. the cover says pick your foe so there is some indication they are the antagonists.

[QUOTE=chief12d;5066000]For all we know mind manipulation could be part of Death's power set so brainwashing is a possibility. I think it's more likely there's some sort of tense alliance between the swordbearers of Arrako and the heroes of Krakoa and Death is trying to manipulate her with charm for one reason or another. Or vice versa. Storm seems to be very connected to the classified masked woman so maybe he takes a special interest in her.

But find it very interesting that in Marauders 13 T'Challa is with Storm while Marauders 14 seems to show her romantically involved with someone else. Kinda messy considering Coates hasn't completed his story yet and we don't know how he planned to cap off their relationship. But I guess the show must go on lol.[/QUOTE]


yea there definitely appears to be some connection to her and the classified mask woman but I think it would take a lot more than charm to see her side against her mutant family.

also I dont think them showing her dance with death is literal but is more metaphorical so I'm not really concerned with the idea that they are looking to put her this death character.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5066012]the card represents the balance between life and death. the left side is life the right side is death (living animals and dead ones respectively). storm is the goddess who preserves the balance of all natural things. there is a possibity this card is in reference to her. the cover says pick your foe so there is some indication they are the antagonists.




yea there definitely appears to be some connection to her and the classified mask woman but I think it would take a lot more than charm to see her side against her mutant family.

also I dont think them showing her dance with death is literal but is more metaphorical so I'm not really concerned with the idea that they are looking to put her this death character.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Death could be mind controlling her or Storm could be playing along with him trying to charm her. Anything could happen at this point. The metaphorical idea of Storm "dancing with death" is also cool, depending on how it plays out.

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/IPu1Zon.jpg[/IMG]

variant cover for X-MEN #13, out in October for Halloween by Dauterman

I LOVELOVELOVE it!!!

im sorry but that card isnt shown as balance, its shown as corruption, as the passage of time that turns even the brightest things into dark remains, as is the 8 of cups about abandonment and disapointment, and we know the horsemen have changed in their time on arrako, their Visual designs have changed and two of the horsemen are missing from the 10 of arrako, there is clearly something wrong, in this closed island that only a few can breach the gap.
It doesnt make sense for ororo to so quickly become like them in visual terms as well, the woman isnt just masked her skin and her hands are clawed, glassy black, she has a spear when we know ororo has a sword.

And if she did fall before the virus, why would it be a positive thing like the card presents it as, it doesnt make sense to show a positive background to an unnatural infection, especialy with flowers and animals and shit . it would mean she was changed by something she couldnt control yet the card shows it as the good part of this mysterious woman and how does a vault corrupted woman so quickly becomes a.. whatever the card lady is.
Its too simple and too much of a surface level prediction, wich is why I belive its more complicated and complex than that, hoxpox was the exact same thing.


I absolutly belive the virus having part of her face cut off just like this card is intended to conect these two women, but while ororo had help and people to take care of her to a point where two rivals put their difrences aside to rescue her and that SHE WILL save herself, this mysterious arrakoan had no one, apocalypse took too long and now she is corrupted, she had been abandoned.

I honestly think this leader has been in arrakoa like the others, that we saw her other half as a way to see how deeply this exile has affected the ones living in arrako

[QUOTE=Ferro;5066146]im sorry but that card isnt shown as balance, its shown as corruption, as the passage of time that turns even the brightest things into dark remains, as is the 8 of cups about abandonment and disapointment, and we know the horsemen have changed in their time on arrako, their Visual designs have changed and two of the horsemen are missing from the 10 of arrako, there is clearly something wrong, in this closed island that only a few can breach the gap.
It doesnt make sense for ororo to so quickly become like them in visual terms as well, the woman isnt just masked her skin and her hands are clawed, glassy black, she has a spear when we know ororo has a sword.

And if she did fall before the virus, why would it be a positive thing like the card presents it as, it doesnt make sense to show a positive background to an unnatural infection, especialy with flowers and animals and shit . it would mean she was changed by something she couldnt control yet the card shows it as the good part of this mysterious woman and how does a vault corrupted woman so quickly becomes a.. whatever the card lady is.
Its too simple and too much of a surface level prediction, wich is why I belive its more complicated and complex than that, hoxpox was the exact same thing.


I absolutly belive the virus having part of her face cut off just like this card is intended to conect these two women, but while ororo had help and people to take care of her to a point where two rivals put their difrences aside to rescue her and that SHE WILL save herself, this mysterious arrakoan had no one, apocalypse took too long and now she is corrupted, she had been abandoned.

I honestly think this leader has been in arrakoa like the others, that we saw her other half as a way to see how deeply this exile has affected the ones living in arrako[/QUOTE]

I never say the parallel between the virus storm face and the eight of cups. I think someone here posted it but I dodnt realize that was what was being linked. Nevertheless, it's all just speculation at this point. That woman may have zero connection to ororo but I dont think it's a coincidence that the xoffices are being secretive with her identity and then we see a cover with storm dancing with one of the arrakoans.

yeah but it doesnt really make sense for a sensual dance of seduction and of "death" to happen after the statis issue that has the "face your foe" line, so a duel betwen the two sides, ororo is already a sword bearer for krakoa, whats the point if shes already part of their side?

[QUOTE=Havok83;5065977]Wow you can tell Storm is Dautermann's favorite character. The amount of covers he's drawn of her is astronomical[/QUOTE]

He said he likes JEAN the most. If he had to choose.

I’m just stirring the pot LOL

You know with all the conversation about Ashake what i do find interesting is her bone cards. The X of Swords thread had a link and under her cards it descrbes each one and the last one says:

Swords: Swords mark a loyalty to Ma'at, gray goddess of balance and order.
[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ashake_(Egyptian)_(Earth-616[/url])

[QUOTE=Ferro;5066218]yeah but it doesnt really make sense for a sensual dance of seduction and of "death" to happen after the statis issue that has the "face your foe" line, so a duel betwen the two sides, ororo is already a sword bearer for krakoa, whats the point if shes already part of their side?[/QUOTE]

maybe shes an secret agent of arrakoa after being brainwashed while tricking the xmen into believing she is still on their side?

[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5066233]He said he likes JEAN the most. If he had to choose.

I’m just stirring the pot LOL[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=jwatson;5066238]You know with all the conversation about Ashake what i do find interesting is her bone cards. The X of Swords thread had a link and under her cards it descrbes each one and the last one says:

Swords: Swords mark a loyalty to Ma'at, gray goddess of balance and order.
[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ashake_(Egyptian)_(Earth-616[/url])[/QUOTE]

yes I saw she had created her own version of "tarot cards". there is just so much I'm seeing connectiong storm i dont think these hints can be ignored.

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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5066254]Finally, my account is settled! And here is an Art from me guys! Don't judge too hard, it has been more than a decade since I drew, so yea!

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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5066260]that's cute my friend thank you for sharing!![/QUOTE]

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