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so apparently some are speculating that this easter egg in end game is a hint Ororo is on her way to being introduced:
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if true this would mean that Ororo was already in the MCU but not sure if this was because of thanos' snap or not. I'm so excited!!!
[url]https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/avengers-endgame-easter-egg-x-men-storm[/url]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5052671]so apparently some are speculating that this easter egg in end game is a hint Ororo is on her way to being introduced:
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if true this would mean that Ororo was already in the MCU but not sure if this was because of thanos' snap or not. I'm so excited!!!
[url]https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/avengers-endgame-easter-egg-x-men-storm[/url][/QUOTE]
That has nothing to do with Storm. That segment takes place decades in the past and if it was a reference to Storm, that would make her a senior citizen in present day
[QUOTE=Havok83;5052679]That has nothing to do with Storm. That segment takes place decades in the past and if it was a reference to Storm, that would make her a senior citizen in present day[/QUOTE]
now we know ororo doesnt age. that is for the common-folk lol
but that is something the article went into as well either way you're most likely correct.
[B]Kyss [/B]those ppl spreading this are stretching black don't crack to its limits. That would make Ororo older than Tony Stark lol!
[QUOTE=Tofali;5052735][B]Kyss [/B]those ppl spreading this are stretching black don't crack to its limits. That would make Ororo older than Tony Stark lol![/QUOTE]
lmfao right and we know Tony old af lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5052758]lmfao right and we know Tony old af lol[/QUOTE]
ancient lol! even when he was saying his last words to Thanos at the back of my head i was hearing Ramonda's line "It Is time" :cool:
[QUOTE=Tofali;5052735][B]Kyss [/B]those ppl spreading this are stretching black don't crack to its limits. That would make Ororo older than Tony Stark lol![/QUOTE]
Lol. I can't.
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But, he did render you powerless Ororo [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](and, Bobby too if I'm not mistaken)[/COLOR] good thing you can fight hand to hand. But, currently I'm confused -- how was it even possible that Forge's nullifier technology was capable of stripping a goddess of Ororo's magnitude of her Divine "Godly" Powers? I mean ever since her ascension to bonified Goddesshood shouldn't Ororo be totally impervious to any and all Earthly technology?
No, If she becomes impervious then to me it removes the tension to any story told about her. I want the dichotomy of having powers of a Goddess and at the same time being as vulnerable and as weak as a human being.
[QUOTE=Tofali;5052888]No, If she becomes impervious then to me it removes the tension to any story told about her. I want the dichotomy of having powers of a Goddess and at the same time being as vulnerable and as weak as a human being.[/QUOTE]
I love that the irony was not lost on you.
[QUOTE=Micabe;5052935]I love that the irony was not lost on you.[/QUOTE]
unfortunately over 90% of the time it does :cool:
[QUOTE=Micabe;5052832]But, he did render you powerless Ororo [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](and, Bobby too if I'm not mistaken)[/COLOR] good thing you can fight hand to hand. But, currently I'm confused -- how was it even possible that Forge's nullifier technology was capable of stripping a goddess of Ororo's magnitude of her Divine "Godly" Powers? I mean ever since her ascension to bonified Goddesshood shouldn't Ororo be totally impervious to any and all Earthly technology?[/QUOTE]
have you been reading black panther? if you have its pretty much been explained there.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5052481]1. indeed. she has written both BP and storm before so that is encouraging she is aware of the development Coates has written.
2. yea hickman did a good job writing the avengers and unless there is some editorial push for this clash between the xmen/avengers
oan I'm wondering how specifically the giant size issue leads to a larger role for ororo. it's clear she will be involved with the x of swords but that doesnt seem that impactful to me. whatever happens it seems she somehow finds a way to beat the virus within her.[/QUOTE]
Of course she beats the virus within.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5052195]I've gone on about this before but long story short I think that there's been some hostility from the X-Office to Black Panther. I like Ororo (and their first marriage) but I think X-writers and fans dislike T'Challa so you get stuff like the narrative that Wakanda hates mutants. I'd prefer T'Challa with a woman from his own mythos like Monica Lynne or Nakia. Neither will ever be as popular as Storm but I think they're more stable.
Like I said, Wakanda and Krakoa are non-aggressive, but they both have certain goals in conflict. Krakoa wants to dominate the global economy, Wakanda included. T'Challa is an Avenger, which means he won't stand for things like mutant immunity or their support for villains. Wakanda also gained 3 protectorates that rejected the mutant deal. I don't think they'll come to blows just yet but I think the potential for tension is there.[/QUOTE]
X editors come and go so who cares what they think?
Storm is a perfect match for T’Challa.
[QUOTE=WallStreeter;5053024]Of course she beats the virus within.[/QUOTE]
as it should be
[QUOTE=WallStreeter;5053028]X editors come and go so who cares what they think?
Storm is a perfect match for T’Challa.[/QUOTE]
she sure indeed is!!
[QUOTE=Micabe;5052832]But, he did render you powerless Ororo [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](and, Bobby too if I'm not mistaken)[/COLOR] good thing you can fight hand to hand. But, currently I'm confused -- how was it even possible that Forge's nullifier technology was capable of stripping a goddess of Ororo's magnitude of her Divine "Godly" Powers? I mean ever since her ascension to bonified Goddesshood shouldn't Ororo be totally impervious to any and all Earthly technology?[/QUOTE]
Um.... The day Storm needs to go Goddess mode on a third rate warmachine suits the day I'm no longer a fan.
And beside miss out on that sweet H2h and knife to the face.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5053065]Um.... The day Storm needs to go Goddess mode on a third rate warmachine suits the day I'm no longer a fan.
And beside miss out on that sweet H2h and knife to the face.[/QUOTE]
that part too!!! say that again!
[QUOTE=Micabe;5052832]But, he did render you powerless Ororo [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](and, Bobby too if I'm not mistaken)[/COLOR] good thing you can fight hand to hand. But, currently I'm confused -- how was it even possible that Forge's nullifier technology was capable of stripping a goddess of Ororo's magnitude of her Divine "Godly" Powers? I mean ever since her ascension to bonified Goddesshood shouldn't Ororo be totally impervious to any and all Earthly technology?[/QUOTE]
You're assume Forge's tech doesn't work on gods.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5053078]You're assume Forge's tech doesn't work on gods.[/QUOTE]
I dont think that is the reason though. ororo doesnt seem to have fully accepted the power of divinity yet.
at least when she has spoke with Hodari (I believe is his name).
edit: it was with kojo:
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5050976]I wish Storm would start making more EM fields to protect herself from attacks.
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If she gets that powerset they can retroactively tie it to how she survived buried in all that rubble when she was a child but forgot how to use it because of all the trauma.
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Also regarding this:
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5053003]have you been reading black panther? if you have its pretty much been explained there.[/QUOTE]
Can you please expand on that? I didn't notice any specific clarification on that matter, I might have missed something.
[QUOTE=WallStreeter;5053028]X editors come and go so who cares what they think?
Storm is a perfect match for T’Challa.[/QUOTE]
Indeed she is a perfect match.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5053065]Um.... The day Storm needs to go Goddess mode on a third rate warmachine suits the day I'm no longer a fan.
And beside miss out on that sweet H2h and knife to the face.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely agree, but in the meantime I wish that they've referred on that matter differently. She still can go h2h with him, but inform him that this Tech doesn't work on who she really is (a goddess).
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5053078]You're assume Forge's tech doesn't work on gods.[/QUOTE]
Forge tech works only on mutant powers, Divinity is entirely different aspect of power. Forge tech will most likely work on Divinity if he concentrates on those powers. But his tech clearly states that it nulifies only mutant powers.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5053100]I dont think that is the reason though. ororo doesnt seem to have fully accepted the power of divinity yet.
at least when she has spoke with Hodari (I believe is his name).
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Ah I remember that one. Indeed, she still didn't accept her Divinity, I do hope they change that with her upcoming Giant Size solo series.
Also, do you really think they will not put much effort in it? I mean they mentioned that this is their plans for years to come regarding their aim with Storm.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5053078]You're assume Forge's tech doesn't work on gods.[/QUOTE]
Good point! I must ponder this :cool:
[QUOTE=Micabe;5052832][COLOR="#A9A9A9"]But, he did render you powerless Ororo [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](and, Bobby too if I'm not mistaken)[/COLOR] good thing you can fight hand to hand. But, currently I'm confused -- how was it even possible that Forge's nullifier technology was capable of stripping a goddess of Ororo's magnitude of her Divine "Godly" Powers? I mean ever since her ascension to bonified Goddesshood shouldn't Ororo be totally impervious to any and all Earthly technology?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5053003]have you been reading black panther? if you have its pretty much been explained there.[/QUOTE]
Help me out here... Exactly which issue(s) of Black Panther explains why Ororo is not susceptible to nullifier technology?
[QUOTE=Micabe;5053515]Good point! I must ponder this :cool:
Help me out here... Exactly which issue(s) of Black Panther explains why Ororo is not susceptible to nullifier technology?[/QUOTE]
There is none.
The others are not speaking of Ororo Mutant ability of Storm theyer speaking of her godhead as The Windrinder or Walker of Clouds. Seeing how it's a Divine Power. Tho in case Ro, her Godhoods also to manifest itsself in the Storms.
Then Ororo should have fried that Russian nullifier suit right there on the spot instead of having to pull a knife and throwing roundhouse kicks.
[QUOTE=Micabe;5053608]Then Ororo should have fried that Russian nullifier suit right there on the spot instead of having to pull a knife and throwing roundhouse kicks.[/QUOTE]
Then when do we get to see Storm do some h2h. Knife skills. It's been so long people will start saying she has no H2h skill to keep up with some of the dealer fighter in the MU.
[QUOTE=vladko92;5053301]Also regarding this:
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Can you please expand on that? I didn't notice any specific clarification on that matter, I might have missed something
Ah I remember that one. Indeed, she still didn't accept her Divinity, I do hope they change that with her upcoming Giant Size solo series.
Also, do you really think they will not put much effort in it? I mean they mentioned that this is their plans for years to come regarding their aim with Storm.[/QUOTE]
The short and simple on the matter is that she has not accepted the divine power that she possesses. I liken it to how she almost became a true "goddess" during roguestorm but cut herself from ascending because she didnt want to corrupted herself as "jean" had done. That said, seeing she hasnt fully accepted it indicates she wouldnt go using it against some baseline humans in armored suits. It would have been nice to see but I expect and hope the xoffices will explore this aspect of her abilities in later stories. With them honestly its hard to say.
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Help me out here... Exactly which issue(s) of Black Panther explains why Ororo is not susceptible to nullifier technology?[/QUOTE]
Oh beloved. You wont find any issue that talks specifically about nullifier tech but you will find a couple that talk about her not accepting her goddess abilities. Some even show her going goddess mode without her knowledge of doing so(which indicates she cant fully control it).
Moreover, as others have mentioned forge tech would have zero impact on her gift of godhead and it is highly unlikely that she would use such abilities that she herself does not own against baseline humans. Why would she use a power against a weaker foe she doesn't herself believe in? To expect her to do so wouldnt necessarily align to canonical events of 616. I also want to add that forge tech doesnt remove mutant abilities it simply doesnt allow conscious access to them. Storm was still able to use her powers unconsciously when she "lost" her powers originally.
X of Swords looks like way too many issues for me. I just hope the writers do right by Storm. She deserves it.
Also on a completely different topic: Would y'all ever want to see Storm's nephew Evan Daniels a.k.a. Spyke appear in the 616 X-verse?
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Why do you feel a character like X-23 was able to make a successful transition from X-men: Evolution to comics but Spyke has not?
Nope. Everything from Evolution should be relegated to the Pit. Definitely Spyke. And X23 while we're at it!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5053673]The short and simple on the matter is that she has not accepted the divine power that she possesses. I liken it to how she almost became a true "goddess" during roguestorm but cut herself from ascending because she didnt want to corrupted herself as "jean" had done. That said, seeing she hasnt fully accepted it indicates she wouldnt go using it against some baseline humans in armored suits. It would have been nice to see but I expect and hope the xoffices will explore this aspect of her abilities in later stories. With them honestly its hard to say.
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THIS! THIS RIGHT SPEAKS VOLUME TO THE CHARACTER.
A Women, who just See's herself has human as the next but yet everyone in the world See's it. She's a frickin goddess. And each time it's offered to her she denies it.
Asgard knew .
Let not forget Loki and that hammer she has already denied thrice.
Her worshipers knew.
Even to the point she appears in Apocalypse tomb wall.
[QUOTE=nj06;5053716]X of Swords looks like way too many issues for me. I just hope the writers do right by Storm. She deserves it.
Also on a completely different topic: Would y'all ever want to see Storm's nephew Evan Daniels a.k.a. Spyke appear in the 616 X-verse?
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Why do you feel a character like X-23 was able to make a successful transition from X-men: Evolution to comics but Spyke has not?[/QUOTE]
no I honestly wouldnt want to see him. I didnt necessarily like xmen evolution and I didnt particularly like him. he came across as a reject marrow but nowhere near as interesting.
to the x of swords it seems the krakoans have to obtain these weapons to fight the beings from the dawn of time. why they need these weapons I dmwiyld like to know but also why are these specific mutants chosen to fight them?
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5053726]Nope. Everything from Evolution should be relegated to the Pit. Definitely Spyke. And X23 while we're at it!
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LMFAO. No to spyke. Only if their going to acknowledge the Monroe's That the BP books established. Her grandparents who are raising her cousin who would be about his age. I just rather they do something with him instead of turning him into spyke 2.0
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5053726]Nope. Everything from Evolution should be relegated to the Pit. Definitely Spyke. And X23 while we're at it!
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we are speaking the same language boo. send it and x23 to the pits of hell.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5053730]THIS! THIS RIGHT SPEAKS VOLUME TO THE CHARACTER.
A Women, who just See's herself has human as the next but yet everyone in the world See's it. She's a frickin goddess. And each time it's offered to her she denies it.
Asgard knew .
Let not forget Loki and that hammer she has already denied thrice.
Her worshipers knew.
Even to the point she appears in Apocalypse tomb wall.[/QUOTE]
you make am excellent point. there has been this theme of her being offered power in some form only to reject it. why? does it simply boil down to her wanting to be human? she braces the mutant power that is her birthright but why the others?
Storm is going to be facing off against on of these beings. I hope we get some Hadari Yao action as a result of this event:
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Ororo's gift of godhead needs to be accepted and honed before she can just use it on the fly. Even when we saw her use that power in BP, it was used through her mutant ability to control the weather. So she had no choice but to bust out the vibranium knife when her powers were nullified.
My head cannon is that her god head is the ability to innately manifest and control white magic, while regular magic users like Doctor Strange need to channel it directly from Oshtur. She has a piece of the divine in her but she needs to train and likely would've if she never left Kenya.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5053726]Nope. Everything from Evolution should be relegated to the Pit. Definitely Spyke. And X23 while we're at it!
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Thank you. I remember being so pissed with Evolution. I wanted to rip Spyke to shreds with his own spikes and the aging of Ororo annoyed me to high heavens.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5053781]Ororo's gift of godhead needs to be accepted and honed before she can just use it on the fly. Even when we saw her use that power in BP, it was used through her mutant ability to control the weather. So she had no choice but to bust out the vibranium knife when her powers were nullified.
My head cannon is that her god head is the ability to innately manifest and control white magic, while regular magic users like Doctor Strange need to channel it directly from Oshtur. She has a piece of the divine in her but she needs to train and likely would've if she never left Kenya.[/QUOTE]
you're actually hitting on what I would like to see in her solo. training on her power and understanding its use and applications. I also liked how you point out her not being able to do this as a result of becoming am xman. so much of her identity was lost when she chose to accept Xavier offer.
[QUOTE=Tofali;5053796]Thank you. I remember being so pissed with Evolution. I wanted to rip Spyke to shreds with his own spikes and the aging of Ororo annoyed me to high heavens.[/QUOTE]
right. I hated how she was aged. I dont know but her depiction seemed liked a diluted mammy caricature to me and I couldnt ever fully get on board with it.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5053815]right. I hated how she was aged. I dont know but her depiction seemed liked a diluted mammy caricature to me and I couldnt ever fully get on board with it.[/QUOTE]
to be honest i would have loved Spyke if it didn't contribute to the aging of Ororo. That instantly closed the love gate for me.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5053726]Nope. Everything from Evolution should be relegated to the Pit. Definitely Spyke. And X23 while we're at it!
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It's always been a missed opportunity for the X-office not to give Storm her own "family". No long-lost siblings, time displaced kids, alternate reality versions of herself to bounce off of. Would've been a great way to increase the number of B-list black mutants while giving Storm some more influence past her authority as a leading X-man.
I vaguely remember Spyke and while he never left a huge impression on me, I'd be happy if they made the effort to revamp him as a cousin to Ororo in the comics. Why not graft elements of his character onto David Munroe Jr., from the Hudlin run?
[QUOTE=Tofali;5053823]to be honest i would have loved Spyke if it didn't contribute to the aging of Ororo. That instantly closed the love gate for me.[/QUOTE]
I felt like she would have been ages in spite of him. I dint the creators could include her in their story in context to her personality. in canon at the age of the mutants featured in evo she was worshipped as a goddess and in full control of her abilities. the only way it made sense yo include her was as a much older character.