Ororo Munroe: Storm Appreciation 2020

[QUOTE=whitecrown;5016681]More examples. No reason to exclude Storm from an issue that is all about her mind. And why does the second cover feature Xavier, Wolverine, Jean, Cyclops, Magneto, etc. but no Storm? Even white and blonde Husk is included over her.

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[/QUOTE]Storm is on that cover and it was an intersting way to incorporate her given the nature of what was on the inside. She was on the variant more prominently anyway

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[QUOTE=Havok83;5016696]Storm is on that cover and it was an intersting way to incorporate her given the nature of what was on the inside. She was on the variant more prominently anyway

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I'm glad you brought that up. She's on the variant cover...the cover that won't be seen by most comic buyers and isn't prominently displayed because the regular cover is getting all the promotion instead. The same variant cover which is only prominently handled by hardcore collectors and second-hand sellers. Average consumers will only see or own the regular cover which did not feature Storm. This is like a cover of The Dark Phoenix Saga not featuring Jean but that's all right because one of the variant covers happen to feature her.

Hickman's use of Storm in his X-run has been very underwhelming so far, but that is also consistent with his use of her in his FF and Avengers stuff. He just doesn't get her, or seem interested in her at all. We'll see what he does with Giant Sized. It may be that he realized he was slacking on her and if he actually focuses on her, he might do something fantastic, but it remains to be seen...

[QUOTE=whitecrown;5016709]I'm glad you brought that up. She's on the variant cover...the cover that won't be seen by most comic buyers and isn't prominently displayed because the regular cover is getting all the promotion instead. The same variant cover which is only prominently handled by hardcore collectors and second-hand sellers. Average consumers will only see or own the regular cover which did not feature Storm. This is like a cover of The Dark Phoenix Saga not featuring Jean but that's all right because one of the variant covers happen to feature her.[/QUOTE]

You do realize you just posted a bunch of variants to try and prove your point? Now its okay to discredit the variants bc it goes against what you say?

[QUOTE=Havok83;5016718]You do realize you just posted a bunch of variants to try and prove your point? Now its okay to discredit the variants bc it goes against what you say?[/QUOTE]

House of X 1 is a different story because there was a mass promotion for that and they were using all those covers to sell the brand. And not all of those covers were variants clearly but you didn't address those. It's a bitter pill to swallow but the truth is that Storm is being sidelined. And some of those covers are the TPB covers so new generations of fans over the years will go by those rather than the single issue covers and there won't be any Storm on them.

You keep moving the goal post. Sigh...

Anyway while doing my search for images, I found this rendition I had not seen before. Its fierce!

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Im so glad this costume gets as much love as it does and has become her new default

[QUOTE=Havok83;5016725]You keep moving the goal post. Sigh...

Anyway while doing my search for images, I found this rendition I had not seen before. Its fierce!

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Im so glad this comics gets as much love as it does and has become her new default[/QUOTE]

I'm tired of clashing over this with you especially because it hasn't exactly been a secret around here for the past few years that Storm has been incredibly undervalued and underutilized. There's no reason to get so defensive about that unless for some reason you prefer her to be treated that way, which I don't believe to be the case.

Anyway, I do like that cover. But I would sacrifice her costume in a heartbeat for an expanded and leading role rather than the wallpaper she feels like as the token minority. And under Hickman's pen, it seems he doesn't even feel like he needs a token minority for every issue, just every few issues because a basic (fake) blonde can do just fine.

I mean if storm's not in an issue why should she be on the cover ? it would've been cool if she'd been on more HoX promo, I'll agree there. but tbf they focused more on characters that were on the mission into space .. Like Husk and Nightcrawler haven't really been on anything else lol

But what can we do, Dauterman's been drawing her gorgeously on the marauders covers, giant-size issue's coming soon, she's been on other covers to boot...covers covers covers. idk I dont feel especially starved in that dept and idk what putting her on more covers would accomplish anyways, it doesn't affect the contents of the story . more like the other way around

[QUOTE=houndsofluv;5016735]I mean if storm's not in an issue why should she be on the cover ? it would've been cool if she'd been on more HoX promo, I'll agree there. but tbf they focused more on characters that were on the mission into space .. Like Husk and Nightcrawler haven't really been on anything else lol

But what can we do, Dauterman's been drawing her gorgeously on the marauders covers, giant-size issue's coming soon, she's been on other covers to boot...covers covers covers. idk I dont feel especially starved in that dept and idk what putting her on more covers would accomplish anyways, it doesn't affect the contents of the story . more like the other way around[/QUOTE]

yeah Husk being on a few covers alongside the big guns, definitely does not mean she's a considered one of the core X-men

I love that Dautermann is a Storm fan and has blessed us with so many covers of her. We truly have been spoiled

The only time I will ever feel spoiled as a Storm fan is when she's got the leading role in the MCU and the entire world recognizes her by face and name again as one of the most popular superheroes.

And the fact that Storm wasn't on a cover with Xavier, Magneto, Wolverine, Jean, and Cyclops but Husk was is incredibly problematic just by itself. Apparently a token blonde is more important than even a token minority now.

[QUOTE=Havok83;5016598]She was roleplaying. Its hard to take that seriously when she had her mind and perception altered and she was put in a position to act the part that was intended of her. She called for Mastermind to kill Scott and we know she didnt have some hidden desire to be married to Mastermind and for Scott to die



You are reading way too much into that. Jean, Wolverine, Emma and Scott had nothing to do with that issue and we dont know that Hickman had anything to do with the cover. Writers typically dont dictate that and this is likely 99% a Larraz thing. Quite frankly, I dont know why those 4 were even on there. It seemed random and not bc they were supposed to represent the 4 core X-men[/QUOTE]

in the words of wyngarde:

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also I stand corrected jean takes accountability for Jean's action as dark phoenix:

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even more reason why jean needs to acknowledge her desires she had at that point towards ororo.

[QUOTE=whitecrown;5016595]I don't trust Hickman very much with her. He's talked about his favorites in the past and they never feature Ororo (they do feature a very racist fake blonde though) and that's especially evident from how much he's sidelined her. It used to kill me when all these House of X promos were coming out and despite being the X-Men's second most famous leader (really should be the first), she was ignored entirely. Even though Xavier, Magneto, Cyclops, Jean, Wolverine, and even the fake blonde would be represented.

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It's an utter insult when they chose to include the fake blonde over Storm in this cover as one of the four core X-Men. Then to add insult to injury, Xavier, Magneto, and Moira are there so basically all the X-Men's leadership EXCEPT for Storm. Why has she been sidelined? Does Hickman even have an answer?[/QUOTE]

I dont necessarily need her to be his fave just write her respectful to her mythos. we havent seen much storm in Hickman's era but that is supposedly going to change after giant size. so we will see.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5016832]in the words of wyngarde:

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also I stand corrected jean takes accountability for Jean's action as dark phoenix:

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even more reason why jean needs to acknowledge her desires she had at that point towards ororo.[/QUOTE]

So do you think it was her desire to be romantically linked to Wyngarde and want Scott dead?

[QUOTE=Havok83;5016850]So do you think it was her desire to be romantically linked to Wyngarde and want Scott dead?[/QUOTE]

It's exactly as Wyngarde said, she was confined to the moral cage for her entire life up to that point and wyngarde stripped her from it. just as xavier knew it was wrong to lost for a teenage jean he never acted upon it or told her locking it away deep within his mind. I think the same can be said with her desires to want to fall for a villain or even kill, scott included.

nevertheless, I'm just quoting the facts from canon. jean could simply apologize and recognize as she did in that second panel that the actions she exhibited were her own. is that too hard to do for a woman she calls her best friend?

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nevertheless, I'm just quoting the facts from canon. jean could simply apologize and recognize as she did in that second panel that the actions she exhibited were her own. is that too hard to do for a woman she calls her best friend?[/QUOTE]

I don't think this is uncalled for at all. We can't call ourselves real allies if we allow racism like this to go unspoken for and I'll also admit that the very time I first read this issue, this moment made me very uncomfortable. More than anything else, this felt very raw and very real and very much like a betrayal to both Storm and Jean's character. As a Jean fan, I did not appreciate this coming from her and what she did to Storm. So I can only imagine how black people reading this around the world would feel, especially ADOS, so Storm deserves retribution for this moment, regardless of whether Jean was in her right mind or not.

[QUOTE=whitecrown;5016868]I don't think this is uncalled for at all. We can't call ourselves real allies if we allow racism like this to go unspoken for and I'll also admit that the very time I first read this issue, this moment made me very uncomfortable. More than anything else, this felt very raw and very real and very much like a betrayal to both Storm and Jean's character. As a Jean fan, I did not appreciate this coming from her and what she did to Storm. So I can only imagine how black people reading this around the world would feel, especially ADOS, so Storm deserves retribution for this moment, regardless of whether Jean was in her right mind or not.[/QUOTE]

beloved you are awesome. you're the first Jean fan that I've come across to not make an excuse for what happened! beautifully said!

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5016874]beloved you are awesome. you're the first Jean fan that I've come across to not make an excuse for what happened! beautifully said![/QUOTE]
That's so sweet of you to say. To be honest, the fact that I'm the first Jean fan you've come across to feel this way is incredibly disconcerting to me. Jean's fandom needs to be better than this especially since I've always considered the Jean and Storm fandoms to be allied with each other.

Actually we have discussed the Jean parts in Dark Phoenix as well as the Frenzy mind control. Both myself and PhoenixStudies have talked about it on this forum (admittedly PhoenixStudies doesn't post anymore and it has been some time). I discussed the problematic Frenzy stuff recently in the Jean thread.

I tend to put blame on the straight white male writers (Claremont and Lodbell) for their bad choices. Claremont gets credit for a diverse cast, using the women generally well, and focusing a lot of his run on Storm. But he also had problematic content (the race swaps, etc). He also had Kitty Pryde use the N-word not once but twice! I still can't believe that happened. He also had that panel where Storm is being checked out by doctors and they imply she's not Black (they say she has European features).

In the X-universe Storm and Jean are close friends but for some reason the fandoms like to fight and it usually comes from discussions about who is more powerful (I'd argue that Storm is but I'd mainly argue it is comparing apples and oranges to compare a psychic character with one who controls the weather). I hate the reductive x-woman vs. x-woman toxicity in the fandom. Why can't we just stop it?

The characters support each other but I do agree the moment in the Dark Phoenix was bad and if written today it would never happen. It was a poor choice from Claremont to show how corrupted Jean was at the time. Leah Williams wrote about the problematic issue on her tumblr a while back, and she would probably like to explore it. But let me remind everyone that she had to apologize on twitter once because she wrote a comic book where an Asian woman became a rat and it never entered her mind at the time that she was playing with negative harmful stereotypes that would hurt/upset fans. The book in question was during her series in Age of X-man.

[QUOTE=MechaJeanix;5017337]Actually we have discussed the Jean parts in Dark Phoenix as well as the Frenzy mind control. Both myself and PhoenixStudies have talked about it on this forum (admittedly PhoenixStudies doesn't post anymore and it has been some time). I discussed the problematic Frenzy stuff recently in the Jean thread.

I tend to put blame on the straight white male writers (Claremont and Lodbell) for their bad choices. Claremont gets credit for a diverse cast, using the women generally well, and focusing a lot of his run on Storm. But he also had problematic content (the race swaps, etc). He also had Kitty Pryde use the N-word not once but twice! I still can't believe that happened. He also had that panel where Storm is being checked out by doctors and they imply she's not Black (they say she has European features).

In the X-universe Storm and Jean are close friends but for some reason the fandoms like to fight and it usually comes from discussions about who is more powerful (I'd argue that Storm is but I'd mainly argue it is comparing apples and oranges to compare a psychic character with one who controls the weather). I hate the reductive x-woman vs. x-woman toxicity in the fandom. Why can't we just stop it?

The characters support each other but I do agree the moment in the Dark Phoenix was bad and if written today it would never happen. It was a poor choice from Claremont to show how corrupted Jean was at the time. Leah Williams wrote about the problematic issue on her tumblr a while back, and she would probably like to explore it. But let me remind everyone that she had to apologize on twitter once because she wrote a comic book where an Asian woman became a rat and it never entered her mind at the time that she was playing with negative harmful stereotypes that would hurt/upset fans. The book in question was during her series in Age of X-man.[/QUOTE]

Some of us here love Jean and think she is a amazing character. I think the issue comes up when X-Fans try to convince others why Storm or Jean should be considered the [B][I][U]QUEEN of the X-Men.[/U][/I][/B]

I give it to Storm because she been on the team longer (comic book issues) and she done more for Xavier's dream. As for Jean, because she was the first X-Woman, I can see how some might say she the [B][I][U]QUEEN of the X-Men.[/U][/I][/B]

[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5017354]Some of us here love Jean and think she is a amazing character. I think the issue comes up when X-Fans try to convince others why Storm or Jean should be considered the [B][I][U]QUEEN of the X-Men.[/U][/I][/B]

I give it to Storm because she been on the team longer (comic book issues) and she done more for Xavier's dream. As for Jean, because she was the first X-Woman, I can see how some might say she the [B][I][U]QUEEN of the X-Men.[/U][/I][/B][/QUOTE]

In my view, Storm is easily the heart and soul of the X-men. Jean and Nightcrawler have been described as such in the books over the last few years or so, but I recently re-read almost the entire Claremont Uncanny run and I feel like the X-men is Storm's story as much as or more than Scott Summers. That might be controversial to some, but Storm is a main-stay and she is a character that should always be in a starring role imo.She should remain a leader.
I love it when Jean and Storm are on the same team. They are great characters and both are strong, confident, and capable (though both can be treated poorly by writers). I wish the fan groups wouldn't divide about who is more powerful (both are) who is more important (both are though Storm is the "main" X-woman), etc. Fans talk about the bias Jean fans have for Emma and vice versa but some of the things I read with Storm vs Jean is just as bad or worse.

[QUOTE=MechaJeanix;5017337]Actually we have discussed the Jean parts in Dark Phoenix as well as the Frenzy mind control. Both myself and PhoenixStudies have talked about it on this forum (admittedly PhoenixStudies doesn't post anymore and it has been some time). I discussed the problematic Frenzy stuff recently in the Jean thread.

I tend to put blame on the straight white male writers (Claremont and Lodbell) for their bad choices. Claremont gets credit for a diverse cast, using the women generally well, and focusing a lot of his run on Storm. But he also had problematic content (the race swaps, etc). He also had Kitty Pryde use the N-word not once but twice! I still can't believe that happened. He also had that panel where Storm is being checked out by doctors and they imply she's not Black (they say she has European features).

In the X-universe Storm and Jean are close friends but for some reason the fandoms like to fight and it usually comes from discussions about who is more powerful (I'd argue that Storm is but I'd mainly argue it is comparing apples and oranges to compare a psychic character with one who controls the weather). I hate the reductive x-woman vs. x-woman toxicity in the fandom. Why can't we just stop it?

The characters support each other but I do agree the moment in the Dark Phoenix was bad and if written today it would never happen. It was a poor choice from Claremont to show how corrupted Jean was at the time. Leah Williams wrote about the problematic issue on her tumblr a while back, and she would probably like to explore it. But let me remind everyone that she had to apologize on twitter once because she wrote a comic book where an Asian woman became a rat and it never entered her mind at the time that she was playing with negative harmful stereotypes that would hurt/upset fans. The book in question was during her series in Age of X-man.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it’s just me but I much prefer a writer that is willing to delve into difficult topics and if they f*ck up, apologize for it.

It's never been a competition. In story...Jean and Storm and Emma all know their importance to the X-Men as a whole. There is no Queen of the X-Men....or King for that matter...and if you're pushing for that decision among the readership then you've missed the moral of the story entirely.

Umm everyone is wrong here. Storm and Jean are both queens of the X-Men and always have been. Jean has been referred to as the heart and soul of the team numerous times, including by Storm but I think a more accurate representation would be to say that Jean is the heart and Storm is the soul. Wolverine would be the body or the spirit.

[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5017884]It's never been a competition. In story...Jean and Storm and Emma all know their importance to the X-Men as a whole. There is no Queen of the X-Men....or King for that matter...and if you're pushing for that decision among the readership then you've missed the moral of the story entirely.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=whitecrown;5018091]Umm everyone is wrong here. Storm and Jean are both queens of the X-Men and always have been. Jean has been referred to as the heart and soul of the team numerous times, including by Storm but I think a more accurate representation would be to say that Jean is the heart and Storm is the soul. Wolverine would be the body or the spirit.[/QUOTE]

There may be no King or Queen of the X-Men but it [B]has[/B] been canonically established that Jean [B]is[/B] the heart and soul of the team.

[QUOTE=Micabe;5018104]There may be no King or Queen of the X-Men but it has been established that Jean is it the heart and soul of the team.[/QUOTE]

Who ever said that there can’t be multiple hearts and souls of the team? I love Jean, but it’s not like the x-men lost all hope during the periods of time where she was deceased. The are other mutants who are just as devoted to the dream as she is.

[QUOTE=Dipter;5018113]Who ever said that there can’t be multiple hearts and souls of the team? I love Jean, but it’s not like the x-men lost all hope during the periods of time where she was deceased. The are other mutants who are just as devoted to the dream as she is.[/QUOTE]

Have you not read the 2000s/2010s era lol?

But you don't cease to be the heart and soul of the team even if you're dead. Particularly when everybody knows you'll be coming back soon enough. Think of the Rogue Storm story or Kitty's fairy tale and how Jean factored into those even while "dead."

[QUOTE=Dipter;5018113]Who ever said that there can’t be multiple hearts and souls of the team? I love Jean, but it’s not like the x-men lost all hope during the periods of time where she was deceased. The are other mutants who are just as devoted to the dream as she is.[/QUOTE]

The X-men entered their darkest era when she died.

[QUOTE=Dipter;5018113]Who ever said that there can’t be multiple hearts and souls of the team? I love Jean, but it’s not like the x-men lost all hope during the periods of time where she was deceased. The are other mutants who are just as devoted to the dream as she is.[/QUOTE]

Seems like we can't get away with the competition aspect within the fandoms. The "heart and soul" of the team is subjective. In my mind Storm fits but others may feel the same for Jean, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, whomever. As others said multiple characters may fit the description.

I just want to get to a place where we don't always play "who is the most powerful", "who is the most important, etc". There are threads on comicsvine that will literally make you regret paying for internet service (re: Jean vs Storm). I will never understand comparing the two powerwise when they are so different (if they had the same power I might understand it better).

Storm and Jean are great together. I loved them on the original Gold Team and I loved them together in X-men Red. Some characters work well together.

Anyways, the giant size issues are direct colaborations betwen the artist and the writer, so both carry weight of the narrative, especially dauterman wanted to do a storm issue 1st of all and he wanted to reference the silent issue.

the same way the cover in issue one was telling of two telepaths going into ororo's mind as a stylistic background, I think ororo enveloped or coming off a background of pure energy looking resolute tells me it will probably be another instance of ororo utilizing her power in a similar fashion to the brood infection, but ofc with bigger implications.
And also, it's time to preorder and tell everyone to do the same because those numbers are what matters to show there's a demand for ororo, marvel won't care unless it's money speaking, and that's the truth.

[QUOTE=MechaJeanix;5018257]Seems like we can't get away with the competition aspect within the fandoms. The "heart and soul" of the team is subjective. In my mind Storm fits but others may feel the same for Jean, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, whomever. As others said multiple characters may fit the description.

I just want to get to a place where we don't always play "who is the most powerful", "who is the most important, etc". There are threads on comicsvine that will literally make you regret paying for internet service (re: Jean vs Storm). I will never understand comparing the two powerwise when they are so different (if they had the same power I might understand it better).

Storm and Jean are great together. I loved them on the original Gold Team and I loved them together in X-men Red. Some characters work well together.[/QUOTE]

im not sure x-men red was balanced enough for me to see it a sign of their relantionship since jean was pretty much the white saviour troupe for the entire series and then ororo did nothing relevant besides creating that tsunami and looking pretty in that run.

[QUOTE=Ferro;5018267]im not sure x-men red was balanced enough for me to see it a sign of their relantionship since jean was pretty much the white saviour troupe for the entire series and then ororo did nothing relevant besides creating that tsunami and looking pretty in that run.[/QUOTE]

Well it was basically a Jean book so not sure it needed to be balanced, but Jean and Storm had good interactions. Storm supported her friend. I do personally prefer Storm to be a leader, but in Red it was a Jean centered book. Storm was a supporting character. If you look back at the Gold Team days it was more of a Storm (and Colossus) show than a Jean centered book. So I guess there is balance in that respect.

I just like it when they are on the same team. Another time they were together was after Onslaught: Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Wolverine, and Cannonball. I loved that team.

My two cents is that every writer has their favorites and that's not always going to include your favorites. Storm has been my absolute favorite for almost 30 years (and I'm 37 so that's most of my life). I wish Hickman would find a more interesting purpose for her in his greater plan, but he's not required to do that just because Storm has been one of the core X-Men for so long. Do I wish his stories had more diversity? Of course. And that goes for all comics and especially the Disney/MCU movies.

He's saying Giant-Size X-Men: Storm is supposed to set up what he's planning on doing with her for the next few years so I hope it's good.

I bought a new Storm figure today. Let me see if I can attach a picture of my small Storm collection.

But I will say that Cyclops, Emma, and Kitty have not been interesting since Astonishing X-Men and Jean's return has been borderline hagiography.

To be fair the issue more comes from her treatment in mauraders than hickman, because storm has had some incredible character moments so far where her voice shines trough very clearly, a mix of divine strength and spirit with genuine compassion and love for life and others and righteous anger, the various scenes related to the ressurection process and x-men 1 first half especially the " I will never tire of uplifting our people" and she has been signaled from the very 1s't interaction with seraphina that the children of the vault are a story that involves her, and issue 5 progressed that into giant size that is meant to be somewhat connected leading to her issue.

The issue really comes from the fact she's stuck in mauraders that simply doesnt use her to her full necessity even if we get some cool moments here and there.
It's not enough and it certaintly is way overdue, but at the same time its better than gold, it is better than the constant narrative off ororo being a bad leader on the jean grey school, where she was written as this crass person when ororo is charisma incarnated, where most of her teammates besides like ... betsy? were either tired of her or ignored her commands, and evolving into near torture porn during the mists crisis.

The fact she has a narrative purpose with the children of the vault, an arc where she starts by being a supportive pillar, becoming increasingly tired to getting a serious blow that makes even two bitter rivals work together to save her because ororo is THAT important, she is more imporant than whatever drama, is better than the last years, while stilll not being nearly enough.

Russell Dauterman gives a great interview in this week's XM Monday over at AiPT!
He's a fan of both Jean and Storm and he had some very interesting things to say of both.

[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5019973]Russell Dauterman gives a great interview in this week's XM Monday over at AiPT!
He's a fan of both Jean and Storm and he had some very interesting things to say of both.[/QUOTE]

Even sick, Storm is still Storm. LOL

[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5019983]Even sick, Storm is still Storm. LOL[/QUOTE]

Exactatiously. LOL

I can almost see him doing something very similar with her, in GSXM:S, referencing that Storm vs Cal scene where even as she's incapacitated by the virus she's able to "cut that CotV bitch" figuratively speaking and save the day.

I hope black panther is the special guest in the giant sized issue.

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