That collection is making me want to arrange a heist :cool:
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That collection is making me want to arrange a heist :cool:
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5067995]There are enough relationship shenanigans going on already...I wouldn't mind at all if Storm stays clear of such goings on and the writers focus on developing her powers and history.
Not everybody has to be in a soap opera emotional entanglement.[/QUOTE]
This. So. Much. This.
Leave her alone and let her be single - she should not be defined by who she dates or is in a relationship with. Personally I prefer her single.
A really good read check it out:
[url]https://bleedingcool.com/comics/could-mysterious-x-of-swords-character-be-ashake-from-new-mutants/[/url]
ororo legion of simps team up
A little tea. So apparently a Polaris fan paid Jason Johnson for a commision to showcase Ororo losing to Polaris. The art is gorgeous but I was kind of shocked to read someone requested this. Why the girls always at our gurl throat??? Everyone most know Ororo is the reigning omega level mutant goddess supreme for a reason. Nevertheless, enjoy:
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/bJMHvvyc/E72-D943-A-702-B-4617-9169-808802021-F39.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5068646]A little tea. So apparently a Polaris fan paid Jason Johnson for a commision to showcase Ororo losing to Polaris. The art is gorgeous but I was kind of shocked to read someone requested this. Why the girls always at our gurl throat??? Everyone most know Ororo is the reigning omega level mutant goddess supreme for a reason. Nevertheless, enjoy:
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/bJMHvvyc/E72-D943-A-702-B-4617-9169-808802021-F39.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Losing?
It appears to me that Storm obviously dropped some loose change and is busy picking it up while casually blocking Polaris' feeble attack.
[QUOTE=nj06;5068696]Losing?
It appears to me that Storm obviously dropped some loose change and is busy picking it up while casually blocking Polaris' feeble attack.[/QUOTE]
lolololol yes baby!!!! I'm here for this!!!!
[QUOTE=nj06;5068696]Losing?
It appears to me that Storm obviously dropped some loose change and is busy picking it up while casually blocking Polaris' feeble attack.[/QUOTE]
Lmao exactly what I was thinking too. Storm has her back turned only using one arm and looks as though she is looking for something while lettingotna let it out. Lol
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5067983]That is an amazing art.
I don't know about the rest, I wasn't a fan of Storm and Wolverine romance. I believe she should do better, that my personal opinion of course. On the other hand I love Storm and Black Panther, he is the one who made her a Goddess, something which even Xavier couldn't give her and told her she is not. I don't know about Bishop and Storm, they don't seem fitting with their characters... with him traveling through time and space all the time, I highly doubt they will have time for themselves.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! Though I feel I can do better... and I will! I mean unless y'all get tired of me posting my art here then I'll stop lol.
As for Bishop, he hasn't been time traveling for quite a while. There have definitely been some moments between him and Storm that could've been explored if not past due. I mean Storm was the one who brought him into the fold so to speak and she was also the one who brought him back from the brink of character assassination(whatever that Demon Bear bs was). I remember they also went on a date in one of Bishop's minis way back when. There's definitely something to work with if a writer should ever want to go that direction, but...
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5067995]There are enough relationship shenanigans going on already...I wouldn't mind at all if Storm stays clear of such goings on and the writers focus on developing her powers and history.
Not everybody has to be in a soap opera emotional entanglement.[/QUOTE]
... this I also agree with.
[QUOTE=juan678;5065820][img]https://i.postimg.cc/7ZPwjWNz/MARAUDERS2019014-cover-inks.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I am so in love with that cover. Dauterman is really talented. We fans are lucky that he's a Storm (& Jean) fan.
[QUOTE=franckd;5069520]I am so in love with that cover. Dauterman is really talented. We fans are lucky that he's a Storm (& Jean) fan.[/QUOTE]
The man needs to be drawing an X-Women series.
[QUOTE=Kitty&Piotr<3;5069546]The man needs to be drawing an X-Women series.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Or at least a mini.
[QUOTE=franckd;5069597]Yes. Or at least a mini.[/QUOTE]
His two Giant Size issues are pretty much a 2 part mini
[QUOTE=Tofali;5068311]That collection is making me want to arrange a heist :cool:[/QUOTE]
The only one missing is an XX-Men figure.
[QUOTE=Havok83;5069623]His two Giant Size issues are pretty much a 2 part mini[/QUOTE]
I hope this will turn out as a trilogy.
[QUOTE=juan678;5065820][img]https://i.postimg.cc/7ZPwjWNz/MARAUDERS2019014-cover-inks.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Anubis has me going yum. this doesn't sit right with me. Am i weird or they deliberately made him sexy? :cool:
[url]https://shadowandact.com/amp/storm-marvel-x-men-actresses-fan-casting?__twitter_impression=true[/url]
[QUOTE=Sin Nick;5067695]I tend to not care too much at the whole romance aspect within the X-books, but when Claremont teased the Wolverine/Storm pairing in his last X-Men run, it felt more like a natural progression of their close friendship than any of her relationships to date. when they actually did hook up, it happened at a bad time for both characters. Storm using Logan as a rebound after getting dumped and Marvel putting them together when it was already known they were about to kill Logan off months in advance. Kinda made you think what was the point. Anywho, if Marvel does decide to break up Storm and Black Panther(again), I say let her be single for a while and explore other aspects about her. Or if not I say give her and Bishop a shot, which was also teased way back when... or even wilder, let her date a normal citizen who's not super powered or anything. Wonder Woman has Steve Trevor, why can't Storm date ol' honorable Dave who runs a rec center and looks out for all the neighborhood kids lol.
Anyway, I drew another pic of Stormy... [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/kVRgPVS.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
nice pic sir!!! you're really talented!
As someone who loathed T'challa before...I don't really care anymore, long as its well written they can put her with a tree for all I care.
I need feats and great storylines for her.
It's what she deserves.
I need some feats too I'm over lightning lass and want to see why she is classified as an omega in the world of Hickman because as of right now I cant tell (aside from resisting mental probes from an omega level telepath and an immensely strong telepath).
I love T'Challa but my love for both is tested when they are together because as a general rule i hate romance in my comic. I don't mind 'Ro having a himbo on the side as accessory but i don't want a love story. With comic books in general I had to learn not to care about love interests for my favorite characters because they have always been irrelevant but it was a feat a half having to endure your other favorite being one.
I will FOREVER ride for Tchalla. He believed in her ability to ascend to something more when EVERYONE around her told her the opposite. His love for her was the one thing that kept him grounded in his actual life allowing him to ultimately defeat an imperialist Walandan galatic empire. He and her are at their most vulnerable and safest with each other. They can connect and talk about a host of issues none of her other suitors could ever do. Lastly, they are the premiere black couple of Marvel and this is important in the era of BLM for all people, but most importantly, black people to see.
[QUOTE=Tofali;5069702]Anubis has me going yum. this doesn't sit right with me. Am i weird or they deliberately made him sexy? :cool:[/QUOTE]
Well, don't misintercept the Egyptian Gods just because they are represented with animal heads. Actually, the Egyptian Gods are a few of the most beautiful creatures back in their time. Think on them as Rome's and Greece's Pantheon. They are gods, and they are actually very attractive, if they remove their helmets.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5069723][url]https://shadowandact.com/amp/storm-marvel-x-men-actresses-fan-casting?__twitter_impression=true[/url][/QUOTE]
Still in the camp unknown. I prefer hiring an actress which is fresh and is natural in this role.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5069878]I will FOREVER ride for Tchalla. He believed in her ability to ascend to something more when EVERYONE around her told her the opposite. His love for her was the one thing that kept him grounded in his actual life allowing him to ultimately defeat an imperialist Walandan galatic empire. He and her are at their most vulnerable and safest with each other. They can connect and talk about a host of issues none of her other suitors could ever do. Lastly, they are the premiere black couple of Marvel and this is important in the era of BLM for all people, but most importantly, black people to see.[/QUOTE]
For some black people. I'm black and i would love to see a black couple on screen and elsewhere, but not this one. But the sentiment i definitely get.
For me i think the world needs a movie with a strong female standing on her own and commanding attention than the world needs a black supercouple in movies.
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5069919]Well, don't misintercept the Egyptian Gods just because they are represented with animal heads. Actually, the Egyptian Gods are a few of the most beautiful creatures back in their time. Think on them as Rome's and Greece's Pantheon. They are gods, and they are actually very attractive, if they remove their helmets.
Still in the camp unknown. I prefer hiring an actress which is fresh and is natural in this role.[/QUOTE]
I would like that too but Disney especially with these larger roles have more often been going with well known actors. they are going to have to really get this right because I can see the fans of hers making it very clear of their disapproval.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5069954]For some black people. I'm black and i would love to see a black couple on screen and elsewhere, but not this one. But the sentiment i definitely get.
For me i think the world needs a movie with a strong female standing on her own and commanding attention than the world needs a black supercouple in movies.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure why you cant have both. Wonder Woman as powerful and independent as she was in her movie had a love interest. But I'm speaking specifically to the comics and not necessarily to the big screen. I dont imagine her and tchalla being a thing especially since nakia is his main squeeze.
That is the problem with Storm/BP, though. Their relationship always happens in his books. She becomes subordinate to his story. It's happened over and over. If Storm had her own solo book, lead an X-Men team, [I]and[/I] was guest starring in BP's book(and/or an Avengers team with them as leads), and their relationship was sprinkled across all those sectors, so be it, but when Storm goes from leading X-Men books to being a supporting character in BP's book, the power balance is lost and Ororo suffers(she still hasn't recovered since, all these years later). It looks like the X-line is finally raising her profile again*remains to be seen, but the optics are promising, but it's been a tough recovery from her position 20 years ago. And as nice as some of the few moments in Coates's BP have been for Ororo, they are ALL in service of BP/Wakanda.
Wonder Woman is interesting and has a rich history with Steve going back to her original presentation in the comics, and is something that has been integral to her story over decades, with several reinventions and new angles being explored. In the film version, I actually thought Steve became too central to her narrative, and he was actually the more important and reasoned character in terms of the film's arc. I didn't like that about the film, but Chris Pine is so handsome and charming, audiences loved it anyways(even I did to some extent). That is an unfortunate reoccurring theme in our western, patriarchal culture, and even with supposed feminist icons like WW or Storm, they are nearly impossible to escape completely(Diana's usually a notch below Superman and Batman, if we are being sincere, and of course Ororo has had to deal with Charles, Scott, and Logan in X-Men land).
It's also interesting that both Diana and Ororo have queer angles that are often overlooked or even despised by some of their fandoms. It's particularly ridiculous in Diana's case as she is from an island of all women who excel at all things physical, intellectual, and spiritual, but somehow Diana isn't a lesbian, or at least predominately female-attracted bisexual. In Ororo's case, her relationship with Yukio is another sticking point for some.
In any case, I think Ororo is best off without T'Challa. They have spent the vast majority of their publication history in very different spheres and have many other developed relationships, both romantic and otherwise. I would hate for Ororo to be T'Challa's "Mera", or "Steve Trevor", or "Lois Lane". And similarly, BP fans would hate to see him be her sidepiece. They were not conceived of as equal partners from the beginning, and all the attempts to bring them together have been short-lived and of mixed reception. They make for a great couple in alternate universes(that Earth X story, or rather Alex Ross's art, made a strong impression), but in terms of the active main universe(be it in comics, film, or animation), they work far better apart.
Taking WW as an example when she was coupled with Supes they had their own ongoing. Steve serves her story but Supes didn't. But then again if we view it outside of our own fandom then I can understand why the X-Office and most of Marvel editorial see her as a supporting character i don't like it but hopefully things change
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5070001]That is the problem with Storm/BP, though. Their relationship always happens in his books. She becomes subordinate to his story. It's happened over and over. If Storm had her own solo book, lead an X-Men team, [I]and[/I] was guest starring in BP's book(and/or an Avengers team with them as leads), and their relationship was sprinkled across all those sectors, so be it, but when Storm goes from leading X-Men books to being a supporting character in BP's book, the power balance is lost and Ororo suffers(she still hasn't recovered since, all these years later). It looks like the X-line is finally raising her profile again*remains to be seen, but the optics are promising, but it's been a tough recovery from her position 20 years ago. And as nice as some of the few moments in Coates's BP have been for Ororo, they are ALL in service of BP/Wakanda.
Wonder Woman is interesting and has a rich history with Steve going back to her original presentation in the comics, and is something that has been integral to her story over decades, with several reinventions and new angles being explored. In the film version, I actually thought Steve became too central to her narrative, and he was actually the more important and reasoned character in terms of the film's arc. I didn't like that about the film, but Chris Pine is so handsome and charming, audiences loved it anyways(even I did to some extent). That is an unfortunate reoccurring theme in our western, patriarchal culture, and even with supposed feminist icons like WW or Storm, they are nearly impossible to escape completely(Diana's usually a notch below Superman and Batman, if we are being sincere, and of course Ororo has had to deal with Charles, Scott, and Logan in X-Men land).
It's also interesting that both Diana and Ororo have queer angles that are often overlooked or even despised by some of their fandoms. It's particularly ridiculous in Diana's case as she is from an island of all women who excel at all things physical, intellectual, and spiritual, but somehow Diana isn't a lesbian, or at least predominately female-attracted bisexual. In Ororo's case, her relationship with Yukio is another sticking point for some.
In any case, I think Ororo is best off without T'Challa. They have spent the vast majority of their publication history in very different spheres and have many other developed relationships, both romantic and otherwise. I would hate for Ororo to be T'Challa's "Mera", or "Steve Trevor", or "Lois Lane". And similarly, BP fans would hate to see him be her sidepiece. They were not conceived of as equal partners from the beginning, and all the attempts to bring them together have been short-lived and of mixed reception. They make for a great couple in alternate universes(that Earth X story, or rather Alex Ross's art, made a strong impression), but in terms of the active main universe(be it in comics, film, or animation), they work far better apart.[/QUOTE]
I Agree 100%. Yogaflame gets it.
Ororo/T’Challa is a NO! For Us.
I honestly would have loved it if Marvel released an X-book set in Wakanda with Vita as writer. Wakanda and mutant issues always seem to be separate but there is a unique opportunity to tackle it. I would have Gentle as a lead and create some new Wakandan mutants for him to mix it up with. Storm and BP would be heavy supporting characters and this would bridge the gap between his solo and the X-men
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5070001]That is the problem with Storm/BP, though. Their relationship always happens in his books. She becomes subordinate to his story. It's happened over and over. If Storm had her own solo book, lead an X-Men team, [I]and[/I] was guest starring in BP's book(and/or an Avengers team with them as leads), and their relationship was sprinkled across all those sectors, so be it, but when Storm goes from leading X-Men books to being a supporting character in BP's book, the power balance is lost and Ororo suffers(she still hasn't recovered since, all these years later). It looks like the X-line is finally raising her profile again*remains to be seen, but the optics are promising, but it's been a tough recovery from her position 20 years ago. And as nice as some of the few moments in Coates's BP have been for Ororo, they are ALL in service of BP/Wakanda.
Wonder Woman is interesting and has a rich history with Steve going back to her original presentation in the comics, and is something that has been integral to her story over decades, with several reinventions and new angles being explored. In the film version, I actually thought Steve became too central to her narrative, and he was actually the more important and reasoned character in terms of the film's arc. I didn't like that about the film, but Chris Pine is so handsome and charming, audiences loved it anyways(even I did to some extent). That is an unfortunate reoccurring theme in our western, patriarchal culture, and even with supposed feminist icons like WW or Storm, they are nearly impossible to escape completely(Diana's usually a notch below Superman and Batman, if we are being sincere, and of course Ororo has had to deal with Charles, Scott, and Logan in X-Men land).
It's also interesting that both Diana and Ororo have queer angles that are often overlooked or even despised by some of their fandoms. It's particularly ridiculous in Diana's case as she is from an island of all women who excel at all things physical, intellectual, and spiritual, but somehow Diana isn't a lesbian, or at least predominately female-attracted bisexual. In Ororo's case, her relationship with Yukio is another sticking point for some.
In any case, I think Ororo is best off without T'Challa. They have spent the vast majority of their publication history in very different spheres and have many other developed relationships, both romantic and otherwise. I would hate for Ororo to be T'Challa's "Mera", or "Steve Trevor", or "Lois Lane". And similarly, BP fans would hate to see him be her sidepiece. They were not conceived of as equal partners from the beginning, and all the attempts to bring them together have been short-lived and of mixed reception. They make for a great couple in alternate universes(that Earth X story, or rather Alex Ross's art, made a strong impression), but in terms of the active main universe(be it in comics, film, or animation), they work far better apart.[/QUOTE]
1. I dont believe that to be true. Xmen WAP I believe was an xmen book. Xmen Red gently (very gently) touched on it, Uncanny Xmen touched upon how important Ororo was to Tchalla, Hunt for Wolverine alluded to it. There is also Mauraders 13 that seems likely it will talk to it in some form. Also, from what I could research Xtreme ending was editorials decision. at the xoffices. It wasnt due to him not being able to write Storm anymore which I'm not even certain is true considering Storm appeared in Astonishing Xmen: Xenogenesis and the regular run. The reality is the xoffices at that time had a vision for the company that didnt include her calling the shots. I will agree with you that the focus on her development should be coming from her offices so its encouraging to see this potentially finally happening.
2. I agree with your second points. I dont think a woman or her role within a story should hinge around another man or woman or whatever is her flavor. That said, I dont think showing an aspect of human emotion which, for some, is to share love with another person outside of themself no matter how independent they are is a bad thing.
3. I have my reasons for not liking the queer angle when it comes to Ororo (mostly around the assault I see on the idea of the family) but as to not dig too deep into it I think it goes into the idea that everyone wants her to be everything. There are not any real prominent black females in marvel so I get it but I dont believe the endgame should be that she embodies everything people would like to see in her. The yukio thing for me is something that never was a confirmed thing and even if you consider that the comics had to be more subtle then, what is the excuse now? It's not to say she will never be confirmed bisexual but after nearly 40 something years I think it would have been made obviously clear if that was the direction the powers that be wanted. Moreover, there are so many more LGBTQ characters that are not being developed so why not give them visibility? What I find more interesting is that those who want to see her not defined by a man are quick to want her to be defined by her sexuality as it relates to her supposed bisexuality.
4. Hmm they may have spent a majority of their publication in different spheres but the time that have spent in the same sphere has impacted them both in a way I think would be foolish both from a monetary and cultural perspective for marvel to ignore. Based upon the resounding request that Ororo appear in BP2 because of their shared past is a clear indication that for some they work better together and I am obviously in that camp as well.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5070001]That is the problem with Storm/BP, though. Their relationship always happens in his books. She becomes subordinate to his story. It's happened over and over. If Storm had her own solo book, lead an X-Men team, [I]and[/I] was guest starring in BP's book(and/or an Avengers team with them as leads), and their relationship was sprinkled across all those sectors, so be it, but when Storm goes from leading X-Men books to being a supporting character in BP's book, the power balance is lost and Ororo suffers(she still hasn't recovered since, all these years later). It looks like the X-line is finally raising her profile again*remains to be seen, but the optics are promising, but it's been a tough recovery from her position 20 years ago. And as nice as some of the few moments in Coates's BP have been for Ororo, they are ALL in service of BP/Wakanda.
Wonder Woman is interesting and has a rich history with Steve going back to her original presentation in the comics, and is something that has been integral to her story over decades, with several reinventions and new angles being explored. In the film version, I actually thought Steve became too central to her narrative, and he was actually the more important and reasoned character in terms of the film's arc. I didn't like that about the film, but Chris Pine is so handsome and charming, audiences loved it anyways(even I did to some extent). That is an unfortunate reoccurring theme in our western, patriarchal culture, and even with supposed feminist icons like WW or Storm, they are nearly impossible to escape completely(Diana's usually a notch below Superman and Batman, if we are being sincere, and of course Ororo has had to deal with Charles, Scott, and Logan in X-Men land).
It's also interesting that both Diana and Ororo have queer angles that are often overlooked or even despised by some of their fandoms. It's particularly ridiculous in Diana's case as she is from an island of all women who excel at all things physical, intellectual, and spiritual, but somehow Diana isn't a lesbian, or at least predominately female-attracted bisexual. In Ororo's case, her relationship with Yukio is another sticking point for some.
In any case, I think Ororo is best off without T'Challa. They have spent the vast majority of their publication history in very different spheres and have many other developed relationships, both romantic and otherwise. I would hate for Ororo to be T'Challa's "Mera", or "Steve Trevor", or "Lois Lane". And similarly, BP fans would hate to see him be her sidepiece. They were not conceived of as equal partners from the beginning, and all the attempts to bring them together have been short-lived and of mixed reception. They make for a great couple in alternate universes(that Earth X story, or rather Alex Ross's art, made a strong impression), but in terms of the active main universe(be it in comics, film, or animation), they work far better apart.[/QUOTE]
all of this!!!
[QUOTE=Havok83;5070083]I honestly would have loved it if Marvel released an X-book set in Wakanda with Vita as writer. Wakanda and mutant issues always seem to be separate but there is a unique opportunity to tackle it. I would have Gentle as a lead and create some new Wakandan mutants for him to mix it up with. Storm and BP would be heavy supporting characters and this would bridge the gap between his solo and the X-men[/QUOTE]
what story has vita written with storm in it ?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5070093]
4. Hmm they may have spent a majority of their publication in different spheres but the time that have spent in the same sphere has impacted them both in a way I think would be foolish both from a monetary and cultural perspective for marvel to ignore. [B] Based upon the resounding request that Ororo appear in BP2 because of their shared past is a clear indication that for some they work better together and I am obviously in that camp as well.[/B][/QUOTE]
By who??? Can Black Panther have a second film without everybody trying shoe horn others? Nobody wants Doom or Namor or Storm in that movie. Because the moment they show up it becomes no longer about him but where is the FF or X-Men at? How do you explain where they were for so long. Folks are tired of the movement that wants that movie hijacked for others.
Marvel is not foolish. It was never going to work with two folks under different offices. Especially one that has been a shadefest towards Wakanda and that would have his book held hostage by X-Men nonsense.
That is why Superman and Batman have love interest under their banners. So no one could be derailed by another franchise.
Black Panther with a love interest free of drama is the job of HIS office.
Storm-the X-Office's job.
From a money stand point how does that relationship benefit Storm? Tossing her in his book only boosted HIS sales and image. It hasn't helped her. It just gave her own franchise an excuse to toss her aside for "others".
All that money and cultural stuff benefits ONE person. It's not Storm. It's the guy with the billion dollar movie, 3 Oscars and 30 trades and nearing the 200 solo issues milestone.
Why is that NOT Storm? For it to be her one day-it has to be on HER terms not his. Force this X-Office to do more than lip service for Storm. Panther is their excuse to marginalize her.
Same mess you are seeing with Cyborg, Duke Thomas and others at DC. If Jessica Jones can do it without Luke or Danielle-so can Storm.
And for the record I DID support the marriage.
When are we getting more Hadari feats?
Also is that sword Storm got the sword of bone or a regular sword encase with lightning?
Skyvolt I will respond tomorrow when I have more time but I saw this jen and has to share. Our girl is front and center as she be. Mr. Ross the g.o.a.t.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed-UzpwXYAEP4hY?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5070219]By who??? Can Black Panther have a second film without everybody trying shoe horn others? Nobody wants Doom or Namor or Storm in that movie. Because the moment they show up it becomes no longer about him but where is the FF or X-Men at? How do you explain where they were for so long. Folks are tired of the movement that wants that movie hijacked for others.
Marvel is not foolish. It was never going to work with two folks under different offices. Especially one that has been a shadefest towards Wakanda and that would have his book held hostage by X-Men nonsense.
That is why Superman and Batman have love interest under their banners. So no one could be derailed by another franchise.
Black Panther with a love interest free of drama is the job of HIS office.
Storm-the X-Office's job.
From a money stand point how does that relationship benefit Storm? Tossing her in his book only boosted HIS sales and image. It hasn't helped her. It just gave her own franchise an excuse to toss her aside for "others".
All that money and cultural stuff benefits ONE person. It's not Storm. It's the guy with the billion dollar movie, 3 Oscars and 30 trades and nearing the 200 solo issues milestone.
Why is that NOT Storm? For it to be her one day-it has to be on HER terms not his. Force this X-Office to do more than lip service for Storm. Panther is their excuse to marginalize her.
Same mess you are seeing with Cyborg, Duke Thomas and others at DC. If Jessica Jones can do it without Luke or Danielle-so can Storm.
And for the record I DID support the marriage.[/QUOTE]
You made some really good points here. Even if Storm+BP isn't inherently destructive for Storm, the X-Office will ALWAYS use it as an excuse to underwrite her or flat out ignore her. Personally I think the problem lies more in the inherent bias of people working at Marvel, because there's no issue when Wolverine is jumping around half their titles but when Storm has a recurring role in BP then it's IMPOSSIBLE to give her attention in the X-books.
[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5070495]You made some really good points here. Even if Storm+BP isn't inherently destructive for Storm, the X-Office will ALWAYS use it as an excuse to underwrite her or flat out ignore her. Personally I think the problem lies more in the inherent bias of people working at Marvel, because there's no issue when Wolverine is jumping around half their titles but when Storm has a recurring role in BP then it's IMPOSSIBLE to give her attention in the X-books.[/QUOTE]
Epsecially when wolverine has to get a jet or something and Storm can fly and be in most places in mere minutes.
I think mainly it had to do with the rights first. Already marvel wasn't taking many chances on characters of color, even though Storm wasn't really a "chance" but they would be damn if they were going to let fox benefit off them uplifting their one prominent character of color and reap all the profits. Now there is no excuse, in fact in today's climate not only at marvel but disney as well Storm should be prominent and essential at this time.
Personally i want a disney princess cartoon of Storm she is already a princess so we can tell an alternative story with her there. And i want a mainline full on movie the levels of what black panther got but in kenya and other places.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5070374]Skyvolt I will respond tomorrow when I have more time but I saw this jen and has to share. Our girl is front and center as she be. Mr. Ross the g.o.a.t.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed-UzpwXYAEP4hY?format=jpg&name=large[/img][/QUOTE]
i LOVE this. I love it especially because of where Storm is standing. In the center and in between Cap and Iron Man making those three look like Marvel's trinity.
[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5070219]By who??? Can Black Panther have a second film without everybody trying shoe horn others? Nobody wants Doom or Namor or Storm in that movie. Because the moment they show up it becomes no longer about him but where is the FF or X-Men at? How do you explain where they were for so long. Folks are tired of the movement that wants that movie hijacked for others.
Marvel is not foolish. It was never going to work with two folks under different offices. Especially one that has been a shadefest towards Wakanda and that would have his book held hostage by X-Men nonsense.
That is why Superman and Batman have love interest under their banners. So no one could be derailed by another franchise.
Black Panther with a love interest free of drama is the job of HIS office.
Storm-the X-Office's job.
From a money stand point how does that relationship benefit Storm? Tossing her in his book only boosted HIS sales and image. It hasn't helped her. It just gave her own franchise an excuse to toss her aside for "others".
All that money and cultural stuff benefits ONE person. It's not Storm. It's the guy with the billion dollar movie, 3 Oscars and 30 trades and nearing the 200 solo issues milestone.
Why is that NOT Storm? For it to be her one day-it has to be on HER terms not his. Force this X-Office to do more than lip service for Storm. Panther is their excuse to marginalize her.
Same mess you are seeing with Cyborg, Duke Thomas and others at DC. If Jessica Jones can do it without Luke or Danielle-so can Storm.
And for the record I DID support the marriage.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree .
Everyone has made an appearance in another MCU movie before appearing. So I have no real issue with an introduction in a BP movie. I would like to have the second film stricly focus on them , maybe find out if klaw becomes the living sound ,but in this Disney climate I highly doubt. F4 more than deserves to debute in BP base of comic history. the XMen would just keep the BP hype raloaring. But would not care to see them there.
But I would like to see Storm make an appearance especially if the plan is to sprinkle Mutants throughout the MCU. And that would not solely effective the BP movie but all MCU movies.
Two this thing ofStorm propping BP up . Upsets me.
Storm at that point in time didn't have leg to stand on. She had nothing. No solo title. Never playing a role in any major event. Just letting her lead a team every now and again. And thats if Clearmonte not advocating for her.
They just toe her out as the premier Marvel women but do absolutely nothing with her.
Once joining BP she enrich the BP mythos and flesh her out as person a women Named Ororo, not Lighting lass Storm in the background.
I remember sitting around and watching psylocke and X23 getting solo's after solos and Storm was underutilized.
But once again she joins BP and she part of a larger Brand. By being under the BP banner branded her also as an Avenger like character through him.
We all seen Sue and Storm billed their relationship on the own XMF4 crossover but wasn't officially a member of the F4 until BP. If anyone
Heck solo and minis started popping up with this new resurgence of Storm new and higher status.
BP franchise was not hurt by Storm joining BP.
From where I stand Storm joining BP was just one of the many ideas part of the ground work everyone at Marvel was lying down for the success of BP. To the point of solos ,event, cartoons and now a billion dollar movie franchise.
It suck she's an XMen through and through and will always will be. But by joining BP she became a full fledge MU Character.
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