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Temporally, it's completely out of sync. Aaron's Avengers run started over two years ago(actually the same month this volume of Coates started)! It's almost forty issues in(they were double shipping per month at first), and Coates' BP still[isn't through 24 issues yet, and] has no bearing on it.
It's wild that Marvel is just having him do whatever he wants on the side while the rest of the line operates relatively in unison.
ok so if Storm has an important role in the Shiar arc, I suppose she could be a new Shiar queen.
I may be thinking a little far but this is what came in my head.
[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5250120]ok so if Storm has an important role in the Shiar arc, I suppose she could be a new Shiar queen.
I may be thinking a little far but this is what came in my head.[/QUOTE]
lol, the daughter of Lilandra and Charles is just now taking the Shi'Ar throne, under the guidance of her aunt, Deathbird, so I very much doubt that. It might be where she gets that black crystal, though, whatever that is.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5249985]I think turned her eyes to the sky means she's about to do something big in the last two issues of Black Panther. Which is why that's the was a reason it was a long hold.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I doubt it.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5250110]Temporally, it's completely out of sync. Aaron's Avengers run started over two years ago(actually the same month this volume of Coates started)! It's almost forty issues in(they were double shipping per month at first), and Coates' BP still[isn't through 24 issues yet, and] has no bearing on it.
It's wild that Marvel is just having him do whatever he wants on the side while the rest of the line operates relatively in unison.[/QUOTE]
The only answer we have is that he’s a busy man. He hasn’t spoken in like 8monthe or so? And I just realized that Coates BP issue #23 is the only issue In February. Now, I was under the impression that that issues 23,24 and 25 were going to be released all at the same time. If that’s not the case then BP won’t end till April and that sucks. And forces me to be not interested. He already has control of Storm what’s the hold up?
[QUOTE=KLY360;5249985]I think turned her eyes to the sky means she's about to do something big in the last two issues of Black Panther. Which is why that's the was a reason it was a long hold.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5250253][COLOR="#000080"]I doubt it.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
See I’m 50/50 on that.
And the answers that you both gave I can understand why you would say that. Storm has been a very important piece to Coates run basically a support character. She’s done a lot in that comic. But looking at the last 3 issues and the previews he’s dealing with a rather large ensemble of characters. I don’t see Storm outshining them. And if she does that would be a shock and would prove and support the argument of Coates tends to favor the supporting cast than he does the main character.
And that’s no Bueno
1: HiX-Man has only circumstantially mentioned her connection to Wakanda/T'Challa.
2: ...which was then pretty much sidelined very recently by Vita in Marauders.
3: Coates' BP story is woefully behind any other Marvel story (even Aaron's Phoenix arc which involves T'Challa) so as to be pretty much irrelevant and is most likely only being released as a courtesy.
4: It's been recently solicited (for X-Men 2021) that Jean, Storm and Cyclops would go on a space mission involving the Shi'ar.
When you add it all together and apply even the smallest amount of common sense......
Anyway, Storm going into space is a great opportunity to explore the exotic side of her weather manipulation.
I'd like to see her do something similar to the galatic core feat, I'd also like to see her manipulate a nebula, create a dwarf star, manipulate radiation on a large scale again and etc ...
[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5250355]Anyway, Storm going into space is a great opportunity to explore the exotic side of her weather manipulation.
I'd like to see her do something similar to the galatic core feat, I'd also like to see her manipulate a nebula, create a dwarf star, manipulate radiation on a large scale again and etc ...[/QUOTE]
Now that!! I’m right there with you.
Thanks appreciate the likes on the pic. Most likely will finish it today i keep thinking cyclops needs to be turned the way Storm and jean are and then flesh it out some.
As far as Storm in space i think it may be like a young goddess thing like when she was called to the serengeti. I feel like after what they just went through and also the fact that for the most part mutants of earth are okay now, they can finally start to focus on their true callings.
It will be very interesting to see just how HiX-Man writes her powerset in space.
That said, my eyes are already primed for copious amounts of rolling if he does not live up to and falls short of her fans lofty expectations.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5250363]Thanks appreciate the likes on the pic. Most likely will finish it today i keep thinking cyclops needs to be turned the way Storm and jean are and then flesh it out some.
As far as Storm in space i think it may be like a young goddess thing like when she was called to the serengeti. I feel like after what they just went through and also the fact that for the most part mutants of earth are okay now, they can finally start to focus on their true callings.[/QUOTE]
Now this is a nice speculation. Almost like further evolution of her self and powers because the environment has changed and the forces and energies she's now manipulating are vastly greater than what she's accustomed to on earth. (And yes, we've seen her in this very situation before but...the fall-out and effects to her were never truly exposited and fully explored)
I’m not Worried. But I too am curious how he writes a Storm in Space. Looking at his GS:Storm manipulating the Weather in artificial world. Nice Job
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5250372]Now this is a nice speculation. Almost like further evolution of her self and powers because the environment has changed and the forces and energies she's now manipulating are vastly greater than what she's accustomed to on earth. (And yes, we've seen her in this very situation before but...the fall-out and effects to her were never truly exposited and fully explored)[/QUOTE]
it really stood out to me how charged up she was when she was calming down apocalypse. She looked like she just wanted to light up and if we think about all these dimensions Storm has just been through in the course of this story alone you make an excellent point. Her body and powers adjust to her enviorment and she basically was in a undead dimension, otherworld, arrako in the span of days. It must on some level be nice to not be limited by not wanting to hurt the planet as well.
Also i don't think Storm is getting enough credit with some of her fans for what she did do in excalibur. Those were not just lightning clouds they were storm clouds and if you look in them asrar did an amazing job of showing within those stormclouds there were entire mini storms raginging with wind and rain etc. Rain that even Saturyne was experiencing from the citadel.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5250386]Also i don't think Storm is getting enough credit with some of her fans for what she did do in excalibur. Those were not just lightning clouds they were storm clouds and if you look in them asrar did an amazing job of showing within those stormclouds there were entire mini storms raginging with wind and rain etc. Rain that even Saturyne was experiencing from the citadel.[/QUOTE]
I Agree. I also think Storm was still under the affects of the BlightSwell Drink and the poison. She mentioned that the Thunderhead was weakening. If that’s the case Storm’s powers were not at 100% and if that’s the case she pushed back that whole horde while being weakened.
Yes, our girl was at least still hungover.
[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5250257]The only answer we have is that he’s a busy man. He hasn’t spoken in like 8monthe or so? And I just realized that Coates BP issue #23 is the only issue In February. Now, I was under the impression that that issues 23,24 and 25 were going to be released all at the same time. If that’s not the case then BP won’t end till April and that sucks. And forces me to be not interested. He already has control of Storm what’s the hold up?
See I’m 50/50 on that.
And the answers that you both gave I can understand why you would say that. Storm has been a very important piece to Coates run basically a support character. She’s done a lot in that comic. But looking at the last 3 issues and the previews he’s dealing with a rather large ensemble of characters. I don’t see Storm outshining them. And if she does that would be a shock and would prove and support the argument of Coates tends to favor the supporting cast than he does the main character.
And that’s no Bueno[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]The reason I say that Coates won't do an omega Storm moment is that he's wrapping up his run and will have to put the toys back in the toybox. All characters will need to be put back in place so that the next writer walks in and can ignore the larger aspects of Coates' story.
He may leave goddess Storm status quo in place but I don't think he's going to have anyone one else but BP put a bow on the final arc.
He'll give her feats no doubt but nothing over the top. He'll probably save some for the rumored solo. [/COLOR]
Honestly after what I have seen of his work on BP and Cap, I don't want him doing a Storm solo. Superhero comics just ain't for him.
[COLOR="#000080"]Storm might be in his wheelhouse though. He writes his female characters very well: strong, good characterizations, feats etc.
If you changed the names of his solos to something else and took out BP and Steve, they read a whole lot better.[/COLOR]
You're right about him showing a preference for female characters. That said, I still find his comics too boring. Obviously there's some skill in there, but it's just not the right frequency for superhero comics. He's out of touch with the medium and the readership, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5250498]You're right about him showing a preference for female characters. That said, I still find his comics too boring. Obviously there's some skill in there, but it's just not the right frequency for superhero comics. He's out of touch with the medium and the readership, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]He needs a co-writer to hit the beats and help him with pacing. Sometimes he comes across as a cross between Bendis and Claremont and not the good stuff.[/COLOR]
Claremont would scream if he saw what Coates did to Selene and the Adversary. ;)
[COLOR="#000080"]Sometimes I think he pulls names out of a hat to see what villains he will use. He's not good with character motivations all the time either.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5250481][COLOR="#000080"]The reason I say that Coates won't do an omega Storm moment is that he's wrapping up his run and will have to put the toys back in the toybox. All characters will need to be put back in place so that the next writer walks in and can ignore the larger aspects of Coates' story.
He may leave goddess Storm status quo in place but I don't think he's going to have anyone one else but BP put a bow on the final arc.
He'll give her feats no doubt but nothing over the top. He'll probably save some for the rumored solo. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Personally I don’t see her doing anything BIG. Coates put in too many characters he’s never written before. Sooooo I don’t see Storm doing anything.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5250485]Honestly after what I have seen of his work on BP and Cap, I don't want him doing a Storm solo. Superhero comics just ain't for him.[/QUOTE]
His writing Style is not for Comic Books.
[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5250565]
His writing Style is not for Comic Books.[/QUOTE]
I agree; I've read some of his other works and they are much more interesting than his comics. This just ain't the medium for him!
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;5250659]I agree; I've read some of his other works and they are much more interesting than his comics. This just ain't the medium for him![/QUOTE]
100% agree. I tried his cap america too and it's just not there. And on a personal note i'm sorry despite how i feel i don't think it's fair for him to be rewarded with a Storm solo with the way he treated Tchalla, especially if that is what he was angling for. I'm sorry. I was one of the hardest on BP/Storm, no one could or can still tell me it was nothing more than oh two big name black people it should work in the beginning and i was the BIGGEST critic going in and was happy it ended and i thought coates did a great job of rebuilding thembut i'm sorry i just can't get past him making Tchalla less than when this time around Tchalla really did everything the right way to rebuild trust in Ororo. Like despite me inherently being against the couple itself i have to say i feel on the back of tchalla he gave ororo those goddess feats whatever and when he felt secure enough he had ororo act out of character and dismiss a man who was actually 1000% loyal, fair and all in with her after taking crumbs during hudlin reign. I just don't feel it was worth it.
And for me thats whats so confusing about some posts. But then i'm kind of high right now. lol. It was coates who ruined Bp/Storm this time around for me after building them up by making storm look absolutely ugly in my opinion for treating a truly rehabilitated man like he was just some common thug stereotype. I'm still a little upset about it. It's like we invested time and money too and some acting like we been hating from the start and it's all on the x-office. I don't want no dude or chick around me that are going to think i'm that basic and needy that i need a bed warming when i've been nothing but 100. but thats just me.
If there is a Storm Solo I pray it comes out twice a Month........YIkes.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5250498]You're right about him showing a preference for female characters. That said, I still find his comics too boring. Obviously there's some skill in there, but it's just not the right frequency for superhero comics. He's out of touch with the medium and the readership, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I loved his Black Panther and his Captain America. Normally would nlt even buy those books but purchased them in part because of his strong portrayal of female characters I like Storm and Selene.
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5250481][COLOR="#000080"]The reason I say that Coates won't do an omega Storm moment is that he's wrapping up his run and will have to put the toys back in the toybox. All characters will need to be put back in place so that the next writer walks in and can ignore the larger aspects of Coates' story.
He may leave goddess Storm status quo in place but I don't think he's going to have anyone one else but BP put a bow on the final arc.
He'll give her feats no doubt but nothing over the top. He'll probably save some for the rumored solo. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
The goddess Storm status quo has really always been there since the Claremont days. Coates finally did more of it than anyone else.
I came across a lovely podcast regarding Storm and her use in XoS and it mirrors my thoughts pretty much. In summary the guest storm fan mentioned Ororo was too big for XoS and these stories have to find ways to inhibit her to make use of her. He goes on to say that you are lucky if you see her use abilities beyond lightning and concluded:
"i don't think she has to be in a black panther book to be used to the full extent of her abilities."
[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/XofWords/status/1332114995476389888[/url]
[QUOTE=WallStreeter;5250971]The goddess Storm status quo has really always been there since the Claremont days. Coates finally did more of it than anyone else.[/QUOTE]
exactly. all this talk of not liking Coates but he is the only writer ive seen that writes her even close to how she was during claremonts day. I will take coates' goddess storm any day of lying, untrustworthy, drunk XoS storm ANY day.
I will eat a hat if coates is writing the storm solo. I don't think it's happening. None of his books are sellers, he has hardly been what marvel pimped him to be and his cap and bp levels are below what past writers have done not to mention as mentioned before 3 years and there is barely any books 3 years and he has effectively only really done two stories for bp. but this is the last time i will mention it because im pretty positive he won't get the book if there is one and personally i rather there not be one than him writing it. So either way the book won't matter to me if he's on it. lol
Some clearly are feats over story but either way i will read the book for free and it will be the only dox or rox trade or hard cover i don't get if he writing but thats my personal choice.
And if anyone at marvel reads this thread if in the discussion a black person is being looked at to write Storm can it please be vita or a woman of color. Please and thank you.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5251277]And if anyone at marvel reads this thread if in the discussion a black person is being looked at to write Storm can it please be vita or a woman of color. Please and thank you.[/QUOTE]
*continues prayer*
...but like-gender/race is not an absolutely necessity. Just make them a really, really good writer who can bring a three-dimensional and balanced approach to her character development and her powerset while leaving any personal agendas at the door. Just fresh, interesting, engaging stories, that's all I ask.
Oh...and Pepe Larraz on art.
...Amen.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5251292]*continues prayer*
...but like-gender/race is not an absolutely necessity. Just make them a really, really good writer who can bring a three-dimensional and balanced approach to her character development and her powerset while leaving any personal agendas at the door. Just fresh, interesting, engaging stories, that's all I ask.
Oh...and Pepe Larraz on art.
...Amen.[/QUOTE]
And the church says Amen. Now brothers and sisters join the Storm choir in a rendition of *Amazing Grace*
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5251292]*continues prayer*
...but like-gender/race is not an absolutely necessity. Just make them a really, really good writer who can bring a three-dimensional and balanced approach to her character development and her powerset while leaving any personal agendas at the door. Just fresh, interesting, engaging stories, that's all I ask.
Oh...and Pepe Larraz on art.
...Amen.[/QUOTE]
Pepe Larraz art is fantastic. However, if I am praying for perfection, Russel Dauterman is it for me. His Storm is simply breathtaking.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5251267]I will eat a hat if coates is writing the storm solo. I don't think it's happening. None of his books are sellers, he has hardly been what marvel pimped him to be and his cap and bp levels are below what past writers have done not to mention as mentioned before 3 years and there is barely any books 3 years and he has effectively only really done two stories for bp. but this is the last time i will mention it because im pretty positive he won't get the book if there is one and personally i rather there not be one than him writing it. So either way the book won't matter to me if he's on it. lol
[B]Some clearly are feats over story but either way i will read the book for free and it will be the only dox or rox trade or hard cover i don't get if he writing but thats my personal choice.[/B][/QUOTE]
Preach!! I will take character development over feats any day of the week.
I also agree that I don't think Coates will get a Storm solo. While he is a great writer, comics just isn't his genre.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5251267]I will eat a hat if coates is writing the storm solo. I don't think it's happening. None of his books are sellers, he has hardly been what marvel pimped him to be and his cap and bp levels are below what past writers have done not to mention as mentioned before 3 years and there is barely any books 3 years and he has effectively only really done two stories for bp. but this is the last time i will mention it because im pretty positive he won't get the book if there is one and personally i rather there not be one than him writing it. So either way the book won't matter to me if he's on it. lol
Some clearly are feats over story but either way i will read the book for free and it will be the only dox or rox trade or hard cover i don't get if he writing but thats my personal choice.[/QUOTE]
Coates Captain America is doing OK. I mean it’s making top 50. But that could just be because it’s Captain America LOL
Coates is going to write her Solo. I do pray that I’m wrong, but I think it’s happening.
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;5251355]Preach!! I will take character development over feats any day of the week.
I also agree that I don't think Coates will get a Storm solo. While he is a great writer, comics just isn't his genre.[/QUOTE]
I haven't read his outside stuff but i know he can't write comics. Coates has storm do a few things in a few panels over a course of 3 years and people stanning and ready to throw him a third solo when he wasn't competent on the other two imo. It don't even make no sense. All for goddess weather. um... skips me with that.
Dautterman would also be the perfect choice. Or a switch off each does arcs and when one is doing the arc the other does the covers and vice versa.
[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5251408]Coates Captain America is doing OK. I mean it’s making top 50. But that could just because it’s Captain America LOL[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Coates Captain America comic may be doing ok but Coates Captain America is a supporting character in his own book. It's been more about Sharon and Peggy Carter and throw in the Daughters of Liberty.
They've actually been pretty good although I think Coates was trying to re-capture that Ed Brubaker's shock moment when he brought back Peggy but it didn't have the same impact as bringing back Bucky as the Winter Soldier.
Still, he writes his women pretty well.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5251414][COLOR="#000080"]Coates Captain America comic may be doing ok but Coates Captain America is a supporting character in his own book. It's been more about Sharon and Peggy Carter and throw in the Daughters of Liberty.
They've actually been pretty good although I think Coates was trying to re-capture that Ed Brubaker's shock moment when he brought back Peggy but it didn't have the same impact as bringing back Bucky as the Winter Soldier.
Still, he writes his women pretty well.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I Agree.
After the issue of Selene beating the shit out of Cap. And then Sharon comes and Saves the day using the Iron-Patriot Suit? Told me all I needed to know.