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I can get behind a short hair Storm.[/QUOTE]
Blue and gold storm looks amazing
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I can get behind a short hair Storm.[/QUOTE]
Blue and gold storm looks amazing
Where is this Battle From????
I've searched Every Corner of X-Men Comics and I can't find this Battle Scene with Storm Fighting Magneto:
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[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4937533][URL="https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/"]https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/[/URL]
New article about Storm on CBR[/QUOTE]
5-9, I can understand but the rest are trash.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4937746]Where is this Battle From????
I've searched Every Corner of X-Men Comics and I can't find this Battle Scene with Storm Fighting Magneto:
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It's from X-Men Adventure 4...the comic based off the Cartoon. I posted the whole bate sometime ago.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4937923]5-9, I can understand but the rest are trash.
It's from X-Men Adventure 4...the comic based off the Cartoon. I posted the whole bate sometime ago.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Ok cool so it’s not Cannon.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4938059]Thanks. Ok cool so it’s not Cannon.[/QUOTE]
No. Even though, The Watcher appears in the comic.
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4937718]While overall it is a weak article, it did still point out some some out of character actions. I don't think Storm would have side with Scott during schism and her marriage to Black Panther put her in the Avengers editorial control making her absent for some X-Men big events. If Marvel wrote character driven vs. plot driven stories, Storm would have been there.
And that bit about feeling bad for fighting the Inhuamns is also valid.
In regards to her marriage to T'Challa, this is a true line: "all of that retconning just smacks of narrative convenience." They rewrote a lot of history to shove the marriage down our throats.[/QUOTE]
what exactly do her history did marvel rewrite aside from that horrible dickey mini which was eventually retconned?
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4937923][b]5-9, I can understand but the rest are trash.[/b]
It's from X-Men Adventure 4...the comic based off the Cartoon. I posted the whole bate sometime ago.[/QUOTE]
my sentiments exactly. when I read 10 I was completely taken aback. then when they said she should marry forge I was completely done it ruined the entire thing for me. but objectively speaking I believe your assessment is fair.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4938378]what exactly do her history did marvel rewrite aside from that horrible dickey mini which was eventually retconned?[/QUOTE]
You answered your own question. That 4 part mini re-conned everything about their original meeting. It made T'Challa Storm's savior when originally she saved him. It portrayed a sexual relationship between a kid (Storm at 12-14) and a teenager (T'Challa age 14-16). It was awful.
What the article said, and I agree with, is that their histories were rewritten for the sole purpose of putting the two characters together. It was and still is very off-putting.
What do you mean it "was eventually retconned"?
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4938444]You answered your own question. That 4 part mini re-conned everything about their original meeting. It made T'Challa Storm's savior when originally she saved him. It portrayed a sexual relationship between a kid (Storm at 12-14) and a teenager (T'Challa age 14-16). It was awful.
What the article said, and I agree with, is that their histories were rewritten for the sole purpose of putting the two characters together. It was and still is very off-putting.
What do you mean it "was eventually retconned"?[/QUOTE]
I think if you were to ignore completely dickey trash story there was still enough there that could be used to support these two being married. Claremont established that had a strong ties prior to her becoming an xman and Priest also laid more foundation to their fondness for one another. So if the article is solely talking to dickeys work I dont think that is a sound argument as it was ultimately retconned.
As you know, dickey had tchalla rescue ororo from the slavers which was the exact opposite of the original origin story. Well in Amazing xmen Annual #1 2014, when the story goes into how she and Tchalla met it was shown as Claremont originally had described it:
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4938454]I think if you were to ignore completely dickey trash story there was still enough there that could be used to support these two being married. Claremont established that had a strong ties prior to her becoming an xman and Priest also laid more foundation to their fondness for one another. So if the article is solely talking to dickeys work I dont think that is a sound argument as it was ultimately retconned.[/QUOTE]
The article's point is that the re-conned exists to support their union, which doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter that is was later re-conned, or that the mini was trash. It's still cannon and it still exist so it's a valid point to bring up in the article.
I do agree it was trash, but the scans you posted don't undo it.
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4937533][URL="https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/"]https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/[/URL]
New article about Storm on CBR[/QUOTE]
What complete shit this article is. This CBR writer must be clickbait ratings trolling. And the comment about her not making things warmers makes it super obvs ( literally set the atmosphere on fire with her heatwave explosion). They’re lucky caning isn’t a permitted form of punishment in the US.
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4938506]The article's point is that the re-conned exists to support their union, which doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter that is was later re-conned, or that the mini was trash. It's still cannon and it still exist so it's a valid point to bring up in the article.
I do agree it was trash, but the scans you posted don't undo it.[/QUOTE]
I'm simply pointing out that story was later retconned back to the original telling so by definition that would make dickey story non-canon. two different origin stories cant exist in the same space.
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4937533][URL="https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/"]https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/[/URL]
New article about Storm on CBR[/QUOTE]
10. It didnt make sense to haters but I got it. I loved them as a couple and it worked for me
9. She wasnt the X-men leader when she left. This was the time when Cyclops rose in prominence to be the overall leader of the teams
8. I didnt like it but she's human. I find them to be more of a brother/sister relationship
7. Storm has no qualms with killing when necesary. She doesnt promote it in the kids but would support them defending themselves if need be. She didnt join Scott bc she agreed with him but rather to help keep him in line
6. They criticize her for leaving the X-men and not being there for mutantkind and criticize her for when she chooses mutantkind? Stupid. It wouldnt have made sense for Storm to side with the Avengers here
5. No it made sense that she felt bad. What didnt make sense was for being depressed for so long after it. IvX shouldnt have kept her down for as long as it did
4. Storm at least in the beginning had a natural immunity to temperature changes. Its laughable to say her clothing made no sense bc it would have been too cold for her
3. We complaining about hair now? Women go through different styles. Deal with it
2. Not marrying Forge was one of the best decisions she made. He treated her like crap when she declined which proved her point
1. Again women change their hair. The punk look lasted for a long time and she outgrew it
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4937533][URL="https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/"]https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-makes-no-sense/[/URL]
New article about Storm on CBR[/QUOTE]
I'm seeing more Storm fans react to this so I guess i'll put my 2 cents in. Wasn't going to, but alright.
10. The Marriage to me felt forced and not needed. Also, a bit of a Cliche IMO.
9. Fair Enough. But at the same time she had other obligations and besides it's not like the Entire Mutant Nation needed Storm. They had Scott and Emma holding the fort.
8. Yeah, I agree here.
7. Fair Point, but Storm isn't opposed to making harsh Decisions. If it came to it Storm could have done the same thing...who knows.
6. Technically, the Avengers waged war on the X-Men. I guess CBR wants Storm to turn her back on her Family then.
5. I agree 100%
4. Ok, this is pretty dumb. Storm is practically Naked in this costume and secondly, she can manipulate Heat.....i'm not sure what's the problem here.
3. Storm always had "Big Hair" CBR......it's never bothered her then...why now?
2. This was Jean Grey's Fault she meddled into something that she shouldn't have.
1. Well, we can't have Storm running around looking like a Man forever. I like the Punk Rock too, but things change. That's why it's called a "Phase" lol.
Whoever wrote that article, if they did their research they'd know she was immune to variations in temperature from her debut. I'm certain that "she gets cold when its hot" garbage only came about when Scott Lobdell wrote X-men Unlimited
[QUOTE=Havok83;4938532]10. It didnt make sense to haters but I got it. I loved them as a couple and it worked for me
9. She wasnt the X-men leader when she left. This was the time when Cyclops rose in prominence to be the overall leader of the teams
8. I didnt like it but she's human. I find them to be more of a brother/sister relationship
7. Storm has no qualms with killing when necesary. She doesnt promote it in the kids but would support them defending themselves if need be. She didnt join Scott bc she agreed with him but rather to help keep him in line
6. They criticize her for leaving the X-men and not being there for mutantkind and criticize her for when she chooses mutantkind? Stupid. It wouldnt have made sense for Storm to side with the Avengers here
5. No it made sense that she felt bad. What didnt make sense was for being depressed for so long after it. IvX shouldnt have kept her down for as long as it did
4. Storm at least in the beginning had a natural immunity to temperature changes. Its laughable to say her clothing made no sense bc it would have been too cold for her
3. We complaining about hair now? Women go through different styles. Deal with it
2. Not marrying Forge was one of the best decisions she made. He treated her like crap when she declined which proved her point
1. Again women change their hair. The punk look lasted for a long time and she outgrew it[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of your points here.
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4938571]Whoever wrote that article, if they did their research they'd know she was immune to variations in temperature from her debut. I'm certain that "she gets cold when its hot" garbage only came about when Scott Lobdell wrote X-men Unlimited[/QUOTE]
yes yes and yes. i feel like many of the writers who came after Claremont felt he wrote her as too powerful. instead of writing her in a manner consistent to his working they started to write her in a fashion that made sense to them. hence the many poor depictions of her power such as she needs weather or she cant use her powers in space.
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4938571]Whoever wrote that article, if they did their research they'd know she was immune to variations in temperature from her debut. I'm certain that "she gets cold when its hot" garbage only came about when Scott Lobdell wrote X-men Unlimited[/QUOTE]
These CBR articles all tend to be pretty awful. Honestly, I always feel they are written by someone who lacks proper knowledge of the topic and/or is incredibly biased. Someone used the word "trash" earlier, and I agree.
Storm didn't refuse to marry Forge. She just told him she needed to think about it. When Forge asked Jean to tell him what Ororo was thinking, she totally botched the situation and got Forge heated. Ororo was going to say yes, but Forge freaked out and went off on her and left with Mystique before she could say so. It was a horrible moment. I'll never forgive Forge for that. And his whack ass still be trying to mack on her.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4938532]10. It didnt make sense to haters but I got it. I loved them as a couple and it worked for me
9. She wasnt the X-men leader when she left. This was the time when Cyclops rose in prominence to be the overall leader of the teams
8. I didnt like it but she's human. I find them to be more of a brother/sister relationship
7. Storm has no qualms with killing when necesary. She doesnt promote it in the kids but would support them defending themselves if need be. She didnt join Scott bc she agreed with him but rather to help keep him in line
6. They criticize her for leaving the X-men and not being there for mutantkind and criticize her for when she chooses mutantkind? Stupid. It wouldnt have made sense for Storm to side with the Avengers here
5. No it made sense that she felt bad. What didnt make sense was for being depressed for so long after it. IvX shouldnt have kept her down for as long as it did
4. Storm at least in the beginning had a natural immunity to temperature changes. Its laughable to say her clothing made no sense bc it would have been too cold for her
3. We complaining about hair now? Women go through different styles. Deal with it
[B]2. Not marrying Forge was one of the best decisions she made. He treated her like crap when she declined which proved her point[/B]
1. Again women change their hair. The punk look lasted for a long time and she outgrew it[/QUOTE]
I have that book in question. She did say yes after he had walked away from her.
After he chewed her a new behind and compared her to Kitty & Jubliee. He did not give her time to think about it.
Issue of reference Uncanny X-Men 290. Storm is on the cover.
Controversial question. Are there any fans of AoA Storm?
While it made sense that Rogue became the head lady in charge by virtue of now being team mom with hubby Magneto. Storm wasn’t a leader at all. Though she seemed close to Quicksilver of all people, the “prince” to Magneto’s “king” and Rogue’s “queen.”
[QUOTE=Will Evans;4939340]Controversial question. Are there any fans of AoA Storm?
While it made sense that Rogue became the head lady in charge by virtue of now being team mom with hubby Magneto. Storm wasn’t a leader at all. Though she seemed close to Quicksilver of all people, the “prince” to Magneto’s “king” and Rogue’s “queen.”[/QUOTE]
Not really. Her look was interesting but everything else was boring. She had one cool moment when she created an EMP but nothing note worthy after that.
[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;4939105]I have that book in question. She did say yes after he had walked away from her.
After he chewed her a new behind and compared her to Kitty & Jubliee. He did not give her time to think about it.
Issue of reference Uncanny X-Men 290. Storm is on the cover.[/QUOTE]
You are right and that makes matters worse. Forge was such a punk
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4939068]Storm didn't refuse to marry Forge. She just told him she needed to think about it. When Forge asked Jean to tell him what Ororo was thinking, she totally botched the situation and got Forge heated. Ororo was going to say yes, but Forge freaked out and went off on her and left with Mystique before she could say so. It was a horrible moment. I'll never forgive Forge for that. And his whack ass still be trying to mack on her.
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[COLOR="#000080"]Straight out of a soap opera! Thank goodness she got out of that! [/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;4939351][COLOR="#000080"]Straight out of a soap opera! Thank goodness she got out of that! [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Storm has the absolute worse track record with men.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4939382]Storm has the absolute worse track record with men.[/QUOTE]
Adult Cable was good to her.
[QUOTE=Will Evans;4939384]Adult Cable was good to her.[/QUOTE]
And she friendzoned him!
Haven't worked on this as much as i would like but it's coming along.
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[QUOTE=Will Evans;4939340]Controversial question. Are there any fans of AoA Storm?
While it made sense that Rogue became the head lady in charge by virtue of now being team mom with hubby Magneto. Storm wasn’t a leader at all. Though she seemed close to Quicksilver of all people, the “prince” to Magneto’s “king” and Rogue’s “queen.”[/QUOTE]
I liked the AoA. It was so completely different. AoA Storm was good. She had some nice moments. I actually liked her relationship with Quicksilver. That was one of the few times I liked the character.
[QUOTE=jwatson;4939438]Haven't worked on this as much as i would like but it's coming along.
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This look great.. you do commissions lol because I need all the Black X women in a picture
[QUOTE=Paleo_Rage;4939928]This look great.. you do commissions lol because I need all the Black X women in a picture[/QUOTE]
Who besides Ororo would be in that lineup of “Black X Women”?
[QUOTE=Thirteen;4939941]Who besides Ororo would be in that lineup of “Black X Women”?[/QUOTE]
Storm
Monet
Ceclia is Afro-Latinx right?
Shard
Indie
Bling
This is all I can think of, and even in this list Shard is a stretch. Was she ever an X-Man?
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4940148]Storm
Monet
Ceclia is Afro-Latinx right?
Shard
Indie
Bling
This is all I can think of, and even in this list Shard is a stretch. Was she ever an X-Man?[/QUOTE]
Don't forget about Frenzy, a drastically underused character. With her choosing to remember her life in the AoX storyline really changed my opinion of her. Before I was totally indifferent to her, passing her off as a one-dimensional villain. It was a mistake not seeing her reaction to Cyke's death. Bendis should have used her.
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4940148]Storm
Monet
Ceclia is Afro-Latinx right?
Shard
Indie
Bling
This is all I can think of, and even in this list Shard is a stretch. Was she ever an X-Man?[/QUOTE]
Don't forget Cipher! :)
Frenzy could apply too depending on her alignment.
Angel Salvadore?
Blink? (technically violet, but so is Bling right?)
Tempo?
[QUOTE=Thirteen;4939941]Who besides Ororo would be in that lineup of “Black X Women”?[/QUOTE]
Monet, cece , oya, frenzy, tempo, cipher , decay ( they should use her), bling, blink and angel Salvatore ( wouldn’t include her in my line up though ) ..wow what a small list ...
[QUOTE=Fokken;4940182]Don't forget Cipher! :)
Frenzy could apply too depending on her alignment.
Angel Salvadore?
Blink? (technically violet, but so is Bling right?)
Tempo?[/QUOTE]
I totally forgot Frenzy! :( She should be included on the list.
I just googled Angel Salvadore. Wasn't familiar with her, but it looks like she should be included.
Was Blink a born purple? If she was white but turned violet when her powers manifest, I'd call her white. If she was black and then purple, I'd include her.
Cipher should definitely be included.
Tempo is a black female mutant, but is she a X-Man? I wouldn't include her as she's not a member of the team.
[QUOTE=Paleo_Rage;4940257]Monet, cece , oya, frenzy, tempo, cipher , decay ( they should use her), bling, blink and angel Salvatore ( wouldn’t include her in my line up though ) ..wow what a small list ...[/QUOTE]
Is Kymera (Storm/Black Panther daughter) still in the 616 timeline for inclusion in the Black X Women?
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[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4940266]I totally forgot Frenzy! :( She should be included on the list.
I just googled Angel Salvadore. Wasn't familiar with her, but it looks like she should be included.
Was Blink a born purple? If she was white but turned violet when her powers manifest, I'd call her white. If she was black and then purple, I'd include her.
Cipher should definitely be included.
Tempo is a black female mutant, but is she a X-Man? I wouldn't include her as she's not a member of the team.[/QUOTE]
Blink is Black. She is an Afro Caribbean. Well tempo to qualifies. She is an x woman villain who has always flirted with being an hero and now she is on Krakoa. I just find it sad after almost 60 years that’s all we have in terms of Black women in the x universe.
[QUOTE=Paleo_Rage;4940284]Blink is Black. She is an Afro Caribbean. Well tempo to qualifies. She is an x woman villain who has always flirted with being an hero and now she is on Krakoa. I just find it sad after almost 60 years that’s all we have in terms of Black women in the x universe.[/QUOTE]
If Tempo counts, than so should Locus, for the same reasons.
[QUOTE=Alphaxman;4940290]If Tempo counts, than so should Locus, for the same reasons.[/QUOTE]
I had forgotten about her going from a Blond Magik clone to Miss Afro Puffs 2007. Yes indeed she would. Hopefully, we will see her again.
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;4940148]Storm
Monet
Ceclia is Afro-Latinx right?
Shard
Indie
Bling
This is all I can think of, and even in this list Shard is a stretch. Was she ever an X-Man?[/QUOTE]
Yikes! This just highlightes that Marvel needs to do better. Other than Storm, Monet and CeCe, all these women that people are mentioning are boring and/or unappealing to me
[QUOTE=Thirteen;4939941]Who besides Ororo would be in that lineup of “Black X Women”?[/QUOTE]
Well, I did make a list of the most frequently appearing black female heroes/allies in Marvel comics a while back. These aren’t all mutants, but I felt it was worth mentioning regardless: [url]https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/electricmastro/lists/most-frequently-appearing-black-female-heroesallie/77687/[/url]
1. Storm
2. Spectrum
3. Misty Knight
4. M
5. Glory Grant
6. Oya
7. Frenzy
8. Shuri
9. Ironheart
10. Silhouette
11. Bling!
12. Moon Girl
13. Cecilia Reyes
14. Davida Kirby
15. Queen Mother
16. Heather McDaniel Hudson
17. Nancy Whitehead
18. Emily Preston
19. Nightshade
20. Shard
21. Okoye
22. Angel Salvadore
23. Claire Temple
24. Stevie Hunter
25. Onome
26. Pathway
27. Krystalin
28. Cipher
29. Queen Divine Justice
30. Charlotte Jones
31. Aneka
32. Friction
33. Gena Landers
34. Melita Garner
35. Network Nina
36. Carrie Alexander
37. Venus Dee Milo
38. Tempo
39. Debrii
40. Tamara Devoux
41. Alloy
42. Murmur
43. Charmer
44. Detective Rebecca Nales
45. Louise Hastings
46. Tara Tam
47. Cuckoo
48. Mary Mahajan
49. Sun Girl
50. Jackie McGee
51. Breeze James
52. Gorilla Girl
53. Priya Aggarwal
54. Twilight
55. Anesthesia Jones
56. Detective Sykes
57. Katherine Glover
58. Lashayla Smith
59. Taina Miranda
60. Tante Mattie
61. Zephyr
62. Ladyhawk
63. Glenda Sandoval
64. Longstrike
65. Adept
66. Decay
67. Foxfire
68. Hub
69. Kymera
70. Lightbright
71. Fantomelle
72. Pinch
73. Aliyah Bishop
74. Meteorite
75. Playback
76. Silencer
77. Becka Munroe
78. Cassandra Locke
79. Ivory
80. Jubulile van Scotter
81. Nina the Conjuror
82. No-Name