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[QUOTE=KLY360;5181299]Thank you so much
Just had to prove Storm molecular lightning overpowered a multiversal character who tanked his own powers.
[B]Is Hadari Yao not coming back in the galactic BP story line?[/B][/QUOTE]
Marauders showed they dont care what happens in the BP book. Might as well be Storm fan fiction.
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[QUOTE=Cville;5181314]Marauders showed they dont care what happens in the BP book. Might as well be Storm fan fiction.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]For one issue only. Then it's back to Kate and Emma.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5181261]I just love how disappointed/disgruntled readers feel the need to discredit Vita's intentions even when the intentions come directly from the writer's mouth...and not left up to speculation and interpretation. So cheeky![/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I'm just disappointed in the disappointment of those who are disappointed by the disappointing reactions to people who found the story disappointing.
Everybody isn't going to like everything and people's criticisms shouldn't be dismissed because some people disagree.[/COLOR]
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I'm not talking about the disappointment to the story...i could care less about that...not everyone will love/like/understand/appreciate everything they read...especially those with over blown and wish-full expectations to start with.
I was referring to directly trying to contradict what the writer says...just because it does not conform to one's personal feelings and understanding (or lack thereof) of the work.
At the end of the day, the work is published...and nothing you or me and anyone else say/feel/do can change this particular story into something other than what it is...no matter how much we rail and rage. (Why I fully support and understand Vita using the block button on twitter.
All that said...I do often have to remind myself that the CBR forum is but a very small community and is not representative of the majority of comic book readers.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5181234]Aside from some of her powers she really isn't anything like Storm. Especially being that she is a supremacist on the show.[/QUOTE]
*sighs*..........
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[QUOTE=Shadey;5181255]She's not. The ONLY things they have in common is that they have lighting powers and can fly. Trust they could not be anymore different.[/QUOTE]
obviously I meant regarding powers and yes in my opinion she's a knockoff Storm. That's literally all she does is fly and shoot lightning. If anybody has watched that show they would know I definitely didn't mean it personality wise being the 7 are not really genuine people.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5181350]I'm not talking about the disappointment to the story...i could care less about that...not everyone will love/like/understand/appreciate everything they read...especially those with over blown and wish-full expectations to start with.
I was referring to directly trying to contradict what the writer says...just because it does not conform to one's personal feelings and understanding (or lack thereof) of the work.
At the end of the day, the work is published...and nothing you or me and anyone else say/feel/do can change this particular story into something other than what it is...no matter how much we rail and rage. (Why I fully support and understand Vita using the block button on twitter.
All that said...I do have to remind myself that the CBR forum is but a very small community.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Cool and everything. But whether on CBR, Twitter, or whatever forum on social media people are going to express their opinions good bad or indifferent.
If I go to a restaurant and the meal I ordered tastes like crap. no matter how good the chef is or how everyone else liked their food, I still have the right to express my opinion.
I don't need to be a chef to know if food tastes good or bad.[/COLOR]
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I have to admit I've never been particularly interested in Storm. She's always felt like more of a symbol than an actual character, to me. Her various identities, goddess, mutant, thief, etc. always kind of conflicted with each other. Like, being a goddess kind of puts her on a pedestal, and makes it harder to see her as a leader and example for the downtrodden and oppressed people. Have you seen that meme from the second X men movie? Rogue walks in on a conversation about a mutant cure, and Storm tells her there's nothing wrong with her. Commentors point out that its weird for 'actual goddess Storm' to tell 'woman who kills everything she touches' that there's nothing wrong with her. And in the recent issue, they go over her role as a diplomat (which she fails at royally), thief (also fails), goddess (betraying the people who worshipped her) and mutant, which is what she appears to have decided is most important.
I avoided talking about this before because it was kind of pointless to rain on other's parade, and criticizing the most famous black woman in comics, if not most of fiction, felt like low hanging fruit. But this recent story was really irksome, and felt like something even her fans wouldn't be thrilled with. So I wanted to get some second opinions and here what others think of her. Why do you like her? What do you think about all of her various identities and if they conflict? That sort of thing.
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[QUOTE=pkingdom;5181446]I have to admit I've never been particularly interested in Storm. She's always felt like more of a symbol than an actual character, to me. Her various identities, goddess, mutant, thief, etc. always kind of conflicted with each other. Like, being a goddess kind of puts her on a pedestal, and makes it harder to see her as a leader and example for the downtrodden and oppressed people. Have you seen that meme from the second X men movie? Rogue walks in on a conversation about a mutant cure, and Storm tells her there's nothing wrong with her. Commentors point out that its weird for 'actual goddess Storm' to tell 'woman who kills everything she touches' that there's nothing wrong with her. And in the recent issue, they go over her role as a diplomat (which she fails at royally), thief (also fails), goddess (betraying the people who worshipped her) and mutant, which is what she appears to have decided is most important.
I avoided talking about this before because it was kind of pointless to rain on other's parade, and criticizing the most famous black woman in comics, if not most of fiction, felt like low hanging fruit. But this recent story was really irksome, and felt like something even her fans wouldn't be thrilled with. So I wanted to get some second opinions and here what others think of her. Why do you like her? What do you think about all of her various identities and if they conflict? That sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Storm has the potential to be the leading lady of Marvel like Wonder Woman of DC. She's got powers, she can fight, interesting past, connections outside of the X-verse and has good visual power displays where feats are concerend.
The problem is that Marvel doesn't want to expand her beyond the X-verse and I truly believes that limits her.
What Marvel is doing to Captain Marvel, they should have been doingto Storm. I don't care how many people complain about Marvel pushing Carol("Why does she keep getting so many relaunches?"), Marvel don't care what they think. They keep pushing her to the forefront and keep her out there. X-Verse just wants to keep Storm around so that they can say, "look at us, we're diverse!"
Epic fail.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5181473][COLOR="#000080"]Storm has the potential to be the leading lady of Marvel like Wonder Woman of DC. She's got powers, she can fight, interesting past, connections outside of the X-verse and has good visual power displays where feats are concerend.
The problem is that Marvel doesn't want to expand her beyond the X-verse and I truly believes that limits her.
What Marvel is doing to Captain Marvel, they should have been doingto Storm. I don't care how many people complain about Marvel pushing Carol("Why does she keep getting so many relaunches?"), Marvel don't care what they think. They keep pushing her to the forefront and keep her out there. X-Verse just wants to keep Storm around so that they can say, "look at us, we're diverse!"
Epic fail.
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I agree here 100%, especially the part about Carol. Readers who didnt like Storm with BP always pin her lack of importance to their marriage but they haven't been together since 2011. What's the excuse now that she hasn't gotten any focus in the xbooks ? can't blame tchalla there.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5181639]I agree here 100%, especially the part about Carol. Readers who didnt like Storm with BP always pin her lack of importance to their marriage but they haven't been together since 2011. What's the excuse now that she hasn't gotten any focus in the xbooks ? can't blame tchalla there.[/QUOTE]
Its kind of sad to say, but Storm has gotten more exposure and screentime as part of Black Panther's stories than she has with the X men for a while now. She's been kind of a non-entity, or only a 'big sister type' to whoever is actually leading a team
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I really liked the issue! It's rare that we get insight into Storm's character. Looking forward to see what the X-office does with her :)
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5181639]I agree here 100%, especially the part about Carol. Readers who didnt like Storm with BP always pin her lack of importance to their marriage but they haven't been together since 2011. What's the excuse now that she hasn't gotten any focus in the xbooks ? can't blame tchalla there.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it a little hypocritical to pin all haters of the relationship on one thing. That's exactly what is being done to those he didn't like vita issue. I've said time and again Coates messed it up for me and people are mum. Vita did nothing here that was worse than the betrayal of offering your man to another woman because he basic
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5181473][COLOR="#000080"]Storm has the potential to be the leading lady of Marvel like Wonder Woman of DC. She's got powers, she can fight, interesting past, connections outside of the X-verse and has good visual power displays where feats are concerend.
The problem is that Marvel doesn't want to expand her beyond the X-verse and I truly believes that limits her.
What Marvel is doing to Captain Marvel, they should have been doingto Storm. I don't care how many people complain about Marvel pushing Carol("Why does she keep getting so many relaunches?"), Marvel don't care what they think. They keep pushing her to the forefront and keep her out there. X-Verse just wants to keep Storm around so that they can say, "look at us, we're diverse!"
Epic fail.
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Correction... It is the X-faction of writers and editors who do NOT want Storm to expand beyond the x-verse not Marvel as a whole.
If it was Marvel as u say......they would have never let her become a long time recurring part of BP and would have never let her become a member of the F4 and Avengers.
X-faction have been throwing jabs at BP for ages ....and BP has NEVER retaliated. BP has NEVER portrayed the X-Men in an insulting or degrading manner but just look at what the X-faction does.
First with the creation of the Gentle character potraying Wakanda (and BP by default) as mutant racists....a character who has never been in a BP book.
After the Orolla/Tchoro marriage...X-faction reduced storm to wall paper status in the X-Men comics while also continuing to use her to throw jabs at BP.
Do u guys recall all the brilliant ideas for X-Men/Wakanda relations that many of u shared on these boards from both storm and BP fans?
How those proposed and speculated relations would have elevated Storm to being a leading woman in marvel with enough clout to surpass Captn Marvel and also have plenty of juicy material to make an enthralling Storm solo?
Do you all remember that time? She married the love of her life, became a queen of a revered kingdom, acquired new worshippers in Wakanda, became a member of the F4 and an Avenger and finally got to meet members of her extended family, etc, etc.
CLEARLY Marvel and the BP writers were pushing to elevate Storm towards a truly meaningful and important status of not the leading lady in the tapestry of the entire MU.
CLEARLY X-faction wanted none of it....they refused to match Storm's elevation outside the x-verse from within. They choose to ignore all of it except when they want to make a another jab at BP.
BP/Storm were the leading power couple of the MU.....X-faction refused to acknowledge that.
And now look where we are.
And this recent Marauders issue proves that the X-faction will continue to throw jabs at BP.
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[QUOTE=pkingdom;5181660]Its kind of sad to say, but Storm has gotten more exposure and screentime as part of Black Panther's stories than she has with the X men for a while now. She's been kind of a non-entity, or only a 'big sister type' to whoever is actually leading a team[/QUOTE]
Agreed!!!!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5181639]I agree here 100%, especially the part about Carol. Readers who didnt like Storm with BP always pin her lack of importance to their marriage but they haven't been together since 2011. What's the excuse now that she hasn't gotten any focus in the xbooks ? can't blame tchalla there.[/QUOTE]
Co-signed!!!!!
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5181319][COLOR="#000080"]For one issue only. Then it's back to Kate and Emma.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Yup..storm and Bishop return to lackey status.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;5180239]Are the mutants having orgies on Krakoa???? :confused:[/QUOTE]
Lool.....lololol!!!!
Sarcasm supreme!
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[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5180250]A light interview with Vita Ayala on Marauders #13 for those interested:
[url]https://io9.gizmodo.com/x-of-swords-writer-vita-ayala-breaks-down-the-significa-1845316824/amp[/url]
Nothing most didn’t already glean but some insight into the approach to create the conflict.[/QUOTE]
"Reasoning that she really doesn’t have the time to wait for T’Challa, Storm waits until the dead of night to set off to simply steal Skybreaker, even though she knows doing so could very well set off a war between Wakanda and Krakoa."
"Sensible hero that he is, T’Challa lets Storm leave with Skybreaker because to stop her would potentially put Wakanda and the rest of the world in danger, but the king also resolves to destroy the gate directly linking Wakanda to Krakoa, signaling that the nations are no longer on the best of terms."
Epic quadru-triple face palm here. :Siiiiiiiiiiigh*
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we should all voice our opinions on several social media platforms like facebook, IG, and especially twitter with how they keep playing with Storm in our faces and continue making her a sub par mutant even tho she's an Omega and Goddess.
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Until very recently X-Men writers, editors, and artists were all straight white men. Women and POC characters clearly suffers for it. As Marvel becomes internally more diverse you’ll see huge changes. The X-office was all white when it ignored Storm’s marriage to the Black Panther. Look at Marauders. Look at the amazing job Vita did with Storm in one issue where the complexities of her relationship with the Wakandan royal family and the X-Men were acknowledged. By making Storm an integral part of X of Ssirds they are finally going somewhere with her. House Of X was a reboot of the X-Men and the focus was on the older generations of mutants coming together for their vision for mutantkind. Xavier, Magneto, Moira, Apocalypse, White Queen, Sinister. Now they are getting around to doing good things with other characters. Hellions has done a great job with Psylocke/Kwannon and Greycrow, an Asian and a Native American.
We should be happy the X-office acknowledged Storm can physically fight and is a warrior woman. She kicks butt. The Storm one shot was good too. And yes, they actually acknowledged her godhood and mystical ties.
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This review gives a beautiful recap of why I did not like this issue. Spot on accurate:
[url]https://www.ndjonesparanormalpleasure.com/marauders-13-review/[/url]
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[QUOTE=pkingdom;5181660]Its kind of sad to say, but Storm has gotten more exposure and screentime as part of Black Panther's stories than she has with the X men for a while now. She's been kind of a non-entity, or only a 'big sister type' to whoever is actually leading a team[/QUOTE]
absolutely. that's the irony of it all. the fans that only want to see her in the xmen then complain when she has no real or meaningful characterization but say hiw horrible bp is when that book has done a billion times more for the character than the xbooks. so very funny lol.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5181809]Isn't it a little hypocritical to pin all haters of the relationship on one thing. That's exactly what is being done to those he didn't like vita issue. I've said time and again Coates messed it up for me and people are mum. Vita did nothing here that was worse than the betrayal of offering your man to another woman because he basic[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I follow you. storm fsns who hated the marriage blame her lack of inclusion within the xbooks due to being used in another book. this is the common argument I've seen from those fans and its why they champion this issue. but the stories the xwriters chose to write after the annulment had nothing to do wiyh them being married. the xwriters simply did not want to write any substantive stories that progressed her beyond her status quo within the books. in fact ehst stories after the marriage was annulled was she the focus that gave her development akin to what we saw in bp? not sure what the inconsequential conversation she had with nakia has to do with that point too.
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Have y'all ever thought about applying to be an X-Writer
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[QUOTE=WallStreeter;5182193]Until very recently X-Men writers, editors, and artists were all straight white men. Women and POC characters clearly suffers for it. As Marvel becomes internally more diverse you’ll see huge changes. The X-office was all white when it ignored Storm’s marriage to the Black Panther. Look at Marauders. Look at the amazing job Vita did with Storm in one issue where the complexities of her relationship with the Wakandan royal family and the X-Men were acknowledged. By making Storm an integral part of X of Ssirds they are finally going somewhere with her. House Of X was a reboot of the X-Men and the focus was on the older generations of mutants coming together for their vision for mutantkind. Xavier, Magneto, Moira, Apocalypse, White Queen, Sinister. Now they are getting around to doing good things with other characters. Hellions has done a great job with Psylocke/Kwannon and Greycrow, an Asian and a Native American.
We should be happy the X-office acknowledged Storm can physically fight and is a warrior woman. She kicks butt. The Storm one shot was good too. And yes, they actually acknowledged her godhood and mystical ties.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand your point. A majority of the X writers are still straight white men. Marauders is normally written by one, they just brought Vita on to blow up the Storm/BP relationship. We've been told how important Storm is going to be, but that hasn't played out, and the story is, again, written and shepherded by straight white men. Almost all of the actual important characters are white men, and a couple white women. Greycrow is just going along with the flow in Hellions, and all of the important decisions and actions are made by others. If the minority characters just have to pick up table scraps in 2nd and 3rd string books instead of the headline titles, how is that any different than how the X office has been run for years?
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[QUOTE=pkingdom;5182354]I don't understand your point. [b]A majority of the X writers are still straight white men. Marauders is normally written by one, they just brought Vita on to blow up the Storm/BP relationship. We've been told how important Storm is going to be, but that hasn't played out, and the story is, again, written and shepherded by straight white men. Almost all of the actual important characters are white men, and a couple white women.[/b] Greycrow is just going along with the flow in Hellions, and all of the important decisions and actions are made by others. If the minority characters just have to pick up table scraps in 2nd and 3rd string books instead of the headline titles, how is that any different than how the X office has been run for years?[/QUOTE]
Nothing but fact and truth!! I sincerely think the xoffices were tired of people asking about Tchaala/Ororo/Hadari Yao. They needed to nip it in the bud (as Barney Fife would say) and do it in a way that wouldn't get the most backlash. Having Duggan on the issue would have been met with "this is racist" criticism but putting a person of color would fix that issue in their eyes, or so they thought.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5182492]Nothing but fact and truth!! I sincerely think the xoffices were tired of people asking about Tchaala/Ororo/Hadari Yao. They needed to nip it in the bud (as Barney Fife would say) and do it in a way that wouldn't get the most backlash. Having Duggan on the issue would have been met with "this is racist" criticism but putting a person of color would fix that issue in their eyes, or so they thought.[/QUOTE]
At least someone is able to acknowledge this. Vita more than likely wanted to write this because I could tell from their whole vibe she probably didn't like T'Challa/Storm as a couple. That and her Shuri issues from her ongoing. But of course the X-office would jump at the opportunity to have a black (woman? person?) take the reins for the one issue that substantially focuses on "the blacks" and cause strife. If Duggan wrote what Vita did there'd be more push back and Marvel is smart enough now to realize that. That doesn't make it right though, because people ideally should be able to call out contrived writing whenever they see it, no matter who the writer is and the racial or sexual identity of the characters they're writing. It's all about marketing and this issue hit all the standard things that would excite the fanbase. A black writer? Check. A black woman "liberating" herself from a "toxic", incompetent black man? Check. Shitting on Black Panther and making Wakanda look bad? Check.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5181639]I agree here 100%, especially the part about Carol. Readers who didnt like Storm with BP always pin her lack of importance to their marriage but they haven't been together since 2011. What's the excuse now that she hasn't gotten any focus in the xbooks ? can't blame tchalla there.[/QUOTE]
Actually, you kind of can. IIRC Gerry Duggan has specifically mentioned in interviews that he was told he wasn't able to do much with Storm until there were no longer plans for her in the BP book, and was excited to be able to do more with her.
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think on the bright side, if Duggan had written this it would have been worse.
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[QUOTE=Krakoa;5182681]Actually, you kind of can. IIRC Gerry Duggan has specifically mentioned in interviews that he was told he wasn't able to do much with Storm until there were no longer plans for her in the BP book, and was excited to be able to do more with her.[/QUOTE]
he did say that but that just means he knew at that time he was pushing to end what coates was working on and didn't want to build upon it or at the very least not contradict it. tchalla had no impact to that other than wanting to end the noise coming from thise who liked coates vision for storm.
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[QUOTE=chief12d;5182523]At least someone is able to acknowledge this. Vita more than likely wanted to write this because I could tell from their whole vibe she probably didn't like T'Challa/Storm as a couple. That and her Shuri issues from her ongoing. But of course the X-office would jump at the opportunity to have a black (woman? person?) take the reins for the one issue that substantially focuses on "the blacks" and cause strife. If Duggan wrote what Vita did there'd be more push back and Marvel is smart enough now to realize that. That doesn't make it right though, because people ideally should be able to call out contrived writing whenever they see it, no matter who the writer is and the racial or sexual identity of the characters they're writing. It's all about marketing and this issue hit all the standard things that would excite the fanbase. A black writer? Check. A black woman "liberating" herself from a "toxic", incompetent black man? Check. Shitting on Black Panther and making Wakanda look bad? Check.[/QUOTE]
absolutely. the review I posted earlier talked about this trope, the "independent woman, i dont need a man" narrative. its quite funny, vita presents this story in a fashion as that tchalla was holding her back from being able to be the protector she aims to be be, but that certainly wasn't the dynamic in Coates' black panther. all the criticism this issue and vita have received is well warranted. it is just unfortunate we had to see yet another x story of black characters resorting to slugging it out as opposed to working together towards a common goal. that said, coates tried to change that narrative and i appreciate him very much for his efforts. it will never be forgotten.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5182273]This review gives a beautiful recap of why I did not like this issue. Spot on accurate:
[url]https://www.ndjonesparanormalpleasure.com/marauders-13-review/[/url][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I agree 100%. This issue about Storm being wife/queen/mutant was settled in WORLD'S APART.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5182331]Have y'all ever thought about applying to be an X-Writer[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]No thanks, I don't use that playbook. Not into, dysfunctional Black couples or sidelining poc.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5182689]think on the bright side, if Duggan had written this it would have been worse.[/QUOTE]
It's quite hilarious, actually, all this raging. For twelve issues the Storm fans have been complaining about not enough Storm front and centre being the bad-ass HBIC...Duggan is a lack-lustre writer who doesn't get her voice...too much Kate and Emma...
They're finally given a Storm-centric issue where we get some deeper charaterisation, cool h2h and power displays, beauty-full renditions of Storm throughout by Lolli...not written by Duggan and...they ALL hate it.
Some readers just never want to be pleased, will never be pleased.
I don't know about anyone else but...I've been thoroughly entertained by all this.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5182919]It's quite hilarious, actually, all this raging. For twelve issues the Storm fans have been complaining about not enough Storm front and centre being the bad-ass HBIC...Duggan is a lack-lustre writer who doesn't get her voice...too much Kate and Emma...
They're finally given a Storm-centric issue where we get some deeper charaterisation, cool h2h and power displays, beauty-full renditions of Storm throughout by Lolli...not written by Duggan and...they ALL hate it.
Some readers just never want to be pleased, will never be pleased.
I don't know about anyone else but...I've been thoroughly entertained by all this.[/QUOTE]
I just can't. I swear the more i'm reading the more i don't think Vita went far enough. This situation has brought up a lot of memories of all Storm had to go through like going to hell and back, your husband abandoning you and it's really making me feel like where was all the outrage when Storm was on the receiving end. Then it was all scholars talking about "Well surely you can't expect Storm to.. when it's a BP book." I have crossed the line to entertained now as well.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5183110]I just can't. I swear the more i'm reading the more i don't think Vita went far enough. This situation has brought up a lot of memories of all Storm had to go through like going to hell and back, your husband abandoning you and it's really making me feel like where was all the outrage when Storm was on the receiving end. Then it was all scholars talking about "Well surely you can't expect Storm to.. when it's a BP book." I have crossed the line to entertained now as well.[/QUOTE]
I didnt like what Liss did. Storm should have been in Hell's Kitchen with him. It would have been a fun superhero duo.
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[QUOTE=Cville;5183139]I didnt like what Liss did. Storm should have been in Hell's Kitchen with him. It would have been a fun superhero duo.[/QUOTE]
Basically but instead of that we always got Ororo sidelined but hey, everything is perfect.
Personally i enjoyed extraordinary x-men and what others consider lighhtning lass more so than i enjoyed sidelined wakanda first me second storm. Tchalla has a nation and so does Storm. Why is okay to put his first even if it puts her in danger but she isn't expected to do the same. Some i'm like eh now.
Bring on the death in otherworld rebirth with only select memories. Bring her back as though she had stayed in kenya and ruled it. lol Tchalla will be all ororo iqad and Storm can be all "I don't know her." *shrugs*
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5183110]I just can't. I swear the more i'm reading the more[B] i don't think Vita went far enough.[/B] This situation has brought up a lot of memories of all Storm had to go through like going to hell and back, your husband abandoning you and it's really making me feel like where was all the outrage when Storm was on the receiving end. Then it was all scholars talking about "Well surely you can't expect Storm to.. when it's a BP book." I have crossed the line to entertained now as well.[/QUOTE]
Yupp.
That parting scene between Storm and T'Challa could have been written in a different way/direction...and it would have been perfectly justified on Ororo's part.
But I do appreciate the almost quiet intensity and restraint they both showed.
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[QUOTE=Cville;5183139]I didnt like what Liss did. Storm should have been in Hell's Kitchen with him. It would have been a fun superhero duo.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]How much leeway did they give Liss though?[/COLOR]