[QUOTE=Micabe;5055839]Geographically, anyone knows how far Wakanda is from Egypt?[/QUOTE]
Well, since Wakanda takes Uganda location, pretty much. I would say around 3000 km from one another. The distance between Uganda and Egypt is 2832 km.
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[QUOTE=Micabe;5055839]Geographically, anyone knows how far Wakanda is from Egypt?[/QUOTE]
Well, since Wakanda takes Uganda location, pretty much. I would say around 3000 km from one another. The distance between Uganda and Egypt is 2832 km.
[QUOTE=Cville;5055726]I'd have loved a mini series where Apocalypse lost his first set of horsemen trying to invade Wakanda.[/QUOTE]
That would've been dope. I'm not always up for connecting Egypt and Wakanda but I'd love to hear about some failed invasions from Kush and Egypt during Apocalypse's time.
[QUOTE=Micabe;5055839]Geographically, anyone know how far Wakanda is from Egypt?[/QUOTE]
Wakanda is located in the upper Great Lakes Region (Uganda, Rwanda). So it's pretty far but archaeology shows us that there's been exchange between the people of this area and Kush/Egypt for millennia.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5055457]Interesting thought about how Hickman loves his New Mutants. Some of the deepest cuts to Storm's heritage comes from those books and I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks that's good material for the story he's telling.
The woman on the tarot card looks a lot like Storm, just after she's succumbed to the techno-organic virus. Pupil-less eyes, high cheekbones, the purple in the background that's been associated with her for the last few months, and the statement about the voice falling silent all make me think that. We know Storm is supposed to be one of the most talked about characters coming out of this event and of all the X-Men she has some of the strongest connections to ancient Egypt (via the Into the Storm mini, Mystic Arcana, and several New Mutans issues). [/QUOTE]
Yeah,[URL="https://www.xavierfiles.com/2020/07/15/let-us-read-your-tarot-as-x-of-swords-begins-in-fcbd-2020-x-men-1/"] Xavier Files [/URL]also said that it might Ororo. Last night, I considered the same thing, where she's in her Techno-Organic form. I think if Giant Size Storm had been released in June like it was suppose to be (damn Corona), we would've known for certain her faith and if she was altered in some way. So I'm on the fence of her actually being Ororo or that's Ororo's ancestress.
[QUOTE][B]We also know the Duggan and Hickman are aware of what's been going on with her in Black Panther, where her main subplot is related to her ancient lineage with these unique connections to her mutant abilities. My bet right now is that the classified woman is some sort of wayward ancestor of Ororo's who was recruited by Apocalypse during his time in Egypt. She's not a Horseman but maybe she's to Arrako's people what Storm is to Krakoa's, a "high priestess" and defender. Maybe Ashake had an X-gene and a sibling who also did? [/B]
But I don't think everything is what it seems and that the swordbearers will be the true villains. Arrako and Krakoa were split by a third party (described as an enemy) with the Twilight Sword. To me that should be the big villain or at the very least some force directly tied to them. After all, Arrako is basically a base for the Four Horsemen and presumably people that were trapped there when Okara was destroyed. They've been fighting an eternal war against someone else and I doubt Krakoa is their main priority.[/QUOTE]
I also thought she could be Ashake's daughter--possibly by Apocalypse--but I'm not sure if the timeline would work. I need to go back and reread some stuff. I always felt that Marvel should touch upon Apocalypse potential links to Ororo (who grew up in country and has ancestor(s) who lived there) and even Wakanda( who likely had run ins with Apocalypse thousands of years ago), instead of having him stuck in the Summers Family orbit.
[QUOTE=Jalysia;5055998]Yeah,[URL="https://www.xavierfiles.com/2020/07/15/let-us-read-your-tarot-as-x-of-swords-begins-in-fcbd-2020-x-men-1/"] Xavier Files [/URL]also said that it might Ororo. Last night, I considered the same thing, where she's in her Techno-Organic form. I think if Giant Size Storm had been released in June like it was suppose to be (damn Corona), we would've known for certain her faith and if she was altered in some way. So I'm on the fence of her actually being Ororo or that's Ororo's ancestress.
[COLOR="#A9A9A9"]I also thought she could be Ashake's daughter--possibly by Apocalypse--but I'm not sure if the timeline would work. I need to go back and reread some stuff. I always felt that Marvel should touch upon Apocalypse potential links to Ororo (who grew up in country and has ancestor(s) who lived there) and even Wakanda( who likely had run ins with Apocalypse thousands of years ago), instead of having him stuck in the Summers Family orbit.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
"[I]CE: So what’s a little speculation without getting completely wild. I think this is a depiction of Storm. I think the “harmonious lifting of voices” refers to her position as the speaker/priestess associated with the mutant resurrections. I have nothing else other than that, and of course the lack of pupils. But Storm deciding to take a new path while her character has spun her wheels a bit during Dawn of X would be pretty true to the character who once got very punk in the 80s.
RS: Hell, I feel like she’s been put in stasis the entire time I’ve been reading X-Men, maybe longer. The only arcs I feel like Storm has gotten have been: 1. Dating Wolverine for a hot minute, 2. Losing her cool hammer in X-Men: Gold, and 3. Routinely declaring that with training and therapy she’s gotten past her phobia of tight spaces before the next writer ignores that, and the following writer after that declares, again, that with training and therapy [etc]. For one of, possibly the greatest X-Men, she’s really been ill-served in modern comics. So I’d love for Storm to be key to X of Swords. Here why I’m skeptical: that hair isn’t white, right? Or, maybe it is? Is the coloring just really bad? Or the shadows are weird? But your point about voices is bouncing around my brain… I think you might be right. I think just (not so shockingly), the coloring of Storm in a modern X-Men comic might be subpar. Again.
CE: Or, I’m just very wrong! Gracia’s coloring is usually pretty great.[/I]"
[QUOTE=vladko92;5055813]If they are taking their cues from the comics they should check Storm solo series... when they are creating her. I was furious with their development on her and therefore I sent them huge feedback.
I don't think that those stats are close either...
[B][U]Intelligence:[/U][/B] 4-5, due to her being a Queen and ruling while BP was away and nowhere, near to help her. Taken from BP Solo series, while he was in space.
[B][U]Strength:[/U][/B] I will put it to 4 since she can lift buildings with her winds... if we are speaking only for her own strength than 3.
[B][U]Speed:[/U][/B] Supersonic Speed should be 6 since 7 will be the speed of light, and Supersonic Speed is right below Light speed.
[B][U]Durability:[/U][/B] Should be at least 4-5, she has resisted much worse than most people anticipate. The Crushing depths of the Ocean, for example, as well and Solar Radiation is another.
[B][U]Energy Projection:[/U][/B] Is fine as 6, I was thinking the same. After she fully takes on her godhood we can raise it to 7.
[B][U]Fighting Ability:[/U][/B] Is fine as well, as 5. It matches what she can do.
But I have to be honest, I believe those statistics are much more accurate with all her feats: [url]https://www.marvel.com/characters/storm-ultimate[/url][/QUOTE]
very interesting categorization here. thanks for providing your insight on these.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5055643]If this is Storm's ancestor then that could help explain why Wakanda might be involved as well. 3 of the Orisha they worship are Heliopolitans (Egyptian) and T'Challa is aware of Storm's divinity on a level even Storm herself isn't. Wakanda is also a civilization predating Ancient Egypt by millennia so maybe they have info in the archives about what was going on with Apocalypse, his horsemen, and members of Storm's lineage back in the days of Okkara.[/QUOTE]
I'm curious how much from her solo is going to be explored as well. Tchalla knew of ororos heritage and connection to the divine. Had he possibly been aware of the markings found in apocalypse tomb as shown below:
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/4VZEuSDhmSGMiH9E74X0gdxXc8y0uquKWpXXzx4JY8F4Zt4Uus9LSu4vK8Gx7PGGaWvqrd-kpvMQjCvXaYnOA1esXNVQ_T8b_guEgKRg1FnhcI1f2Qou0C7UMEHwN8U6Y_Mm3w=s1600[/img]
Any Storm fans on instagram?
@planetxmen just put out a brand new Storm guide on their story, what did y'all think?
xo misty
[QUOTE=chief12d;5055899]That would've been dope. I'm not always up for connecting Egypt and Wakanda but I'd love to hear about some failed invasions from Kush and Egypt during Apocalypse's time.
Wakanda is located in the upper Great Lakes Region (Uganda, Rwanda). So it's pretty far but archaeology shows us that there's been exchange between the people of this area and Kush/Egypt for millennia.[/QUOTE]
The source of the Nile and the Mountains of the Moon( the mythic place where Kemetic people said they originally came from, often identified with the Rwenzori Mountains of Uganda, just west of Lake Victoria) are all right there where Wakanda is supposed to be. The Nile is like their highway, so really, it's not that far.
[QUOTE=misty101;5056683]Any Storm fans on instagram?
@planetxmen just put out a brand new Storm guide on their story, what did y'all think?
xo misty[/QUOTE]
not seeing Coates work but seeing Xmen Gold makes that list instant garbage but thanks for sharing though.
[img]https://media2.giphy.com/media/bkfC9cl4oVpOv2tfTo/giphy.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=misty101;5056683]Any Storm fans on instagram?
@planetxmen just put out a brand new Storm guide on their story, what did y'all think?
xo misty[/QUOTE]
I like it. Good guide to Storm.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057075]not seeing Coates work but seeing Xmen Gold makes that list instant garbage but thanks for sharing though.
[img]https://media2.giphy.com/media/bkfC9cl4oVpOv2tfTo/giphy.gif[/img][/QUOTE] X-Men Gold wasn't on the list at all, what list were you looking at??
Do you mean the Gold era from Uncanny X-Men 281?
[QUOTE=misty101;5057180]X-Men Gold wasn't on the list at all, what list were you looking at??
Do you mean the Gold era from Uncanny X-Men 281?[/QUOTE]
[img]https://crushingkrisis.com/assets/X-Men-Prime-2017-001-interior-02-300x461.jpg[/img]
the image from xmen prime is shown which Guggenheim used to relinquish her authority to kitty. pure and utter trash.
[QUOTE=vladko92;5055012]Nevermind... I was checking Marvel's Official Database and those statistics look so unreal for her and her accomplishments. Emma has her statistics much, much higher... like how? No those statistics are definitely unreal:
DURABILITY: 2
ENERGY: 5?
FIGHTING SKILLS: 4?
INTELLIGENCE: 2? For real...
SPEED: 3... how...?
STRENGTH: 3
From the above statistics I agree with Strength and Durability... but the rest... are they for real?
Even Iron Man has much higher statistics and he is using just a suit...[/QUOTE]
The discussion about Storm's stats gave me the idea to create this - [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/fFPMknL.png[/IMG]
It's just my personal opinion on how I view Storm's abilities... and I also just wanted a reason to post one of my Storm drawings lol.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057202][img]https://crushingkrisis.com/assets/X-Men-Prime-2017-001-interior-02-300x461.jpg[/img]
the image from xmen prime is shown which Guggenheim used to relinquish her authority to kitty. pure and utter trash.[/QUOTE] The images have nothing to do with the guide... you have literally just judged a book by it's cover.
[QUOTE=vladko92;5055548]But she is voiced by a Black Woman... Kimberly Brooks, you can hear it in her accent. She also voices Alura from Voltron Vlogs and in Voltron: Legendary Defender animation in 2016 as well and Melenor and Valayun.[/QUOTE]
oh it sounded like a very forced white washed african accent. I had a stank face while listening lol
[QUOTE=misty101;5057239]The images have nothing to do with the guide... you have literally just judged a book by it's cover.[/QUOTE]
well you provided the screenshot love and i answered your question based upon it
[img]https://media1.tenor.com/images/7dfd42a6619a9378d1351575b34967d2/tenor.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Sin Nick;5057210]The discussion about Storm's stats gave me the idea to create this - [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/fFPMknL.png[/IMG]
It's just my personal opinion on how I view Storm's abilities... and I also just wanted a reason to post one of my Storm drawings lol.[/QUOTE]
what did you use to come up with your stats?
oh nice drawing by the way lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057263]well you provided the screenshot love and i answered your question based upon it
[img]https://media1.tenor.com/images/7dfd42a6619a9378d1351575b34967d2/tenor.gif[/img][/QUOTE] So you judged the whole guide without ever reading the guide just from a montage of her looks on the cover? OK...
[QUOTE=misty101;5057277]So you judged the whole guide without ever reading the guide just from a montage of her looks on the cover? OK...[/QUOTE]
how absurd of me to answer a question based upon the info you provided without any links and only an image.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057268]what did you use to come up with your stats?
oh nice drawing by the way lol[/QUOTE]
Thanks!
As for how I came up with my stats, I pretty much used the stats from those old Marvel cards from the 90s, but updated them with my own personal view. Like for instance, they had Storm's mental powers stat at a 2, but I'm thinking someone who can pretty much control the weather/atmosphere on a planetary level deserves to be at least a 7 stat wise. Stats for mental power were strictly for telepaths and the like back in the day, but Storm's command over the elements most definitely takes mental control and nobody does it better as far as elementals go. Her strength and durability I put at a 2 because I feel as powerful as she is, she can take damage like a normal person. I know she's immune to lighting and and other elements, but I don't take that into account when gauging durability. Take for instance the Human Torch, he could probably fly into the sun because of his resistance to heat, but he could still be taken out by a bullet. My take on durability is more a physical thing than resistant level.
Again these are just my opinions though.
[QUOTE=Sin Nick;5057298]Thanks!
As for how I came up with my stats, I pretty much used the stats from those old Marvel cards from the 90s, but updated them with my own personal view. Like for instance, they had Storm's mental powers stat at a 2, but I'm thinking someone who can pretty much control the weather/atmosphere on a planetary level deserves to be at least a 7 stat wise. Stats for mental power were strictly for telepaths and the like back in the day, but Storm's command over the elements most definitely takes mental control and nobody does it better as far as elementals go. Her strength and durability I put at a 2 because I feel as powerful as she is, she can take damage like a normal person. I know she's immune to lighting and and other elements, but I don't take that into account when gauging durability. Take for instance the Human Torch, he could probably fly into the sun because of his resistance to heat, but he could still be taken out by a bullet. My take on durability is more a physical thing than resistant level.
Again these are just my opinions though.[/QUOTE]
no thank you for sharing!!
and I appreciate your detail on how you came up with your stats. I think it's fair in terms of your rationale. how long ago did you create this btw?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057301]no thank you for sharing!!
and I appreciate your detail on how you came up with your stats. I think it's fair in terms of your rationale. how long ago did you create this btw?[/QUOTE]
The actual drawing took no time, probably about 15 minutes or so. The coloring took longer, about an hour at most. The background and Storm logo were stock images I got off the internet. I gonna try and do another soon, a better one of Storm in her actual costume and not the generic one I threw together lol. I'm working on one for Bishop and Wolverine atm though.
[QUOTE=Sin Nick;5057309]The actual drawing took no time, probably about 15 minutes or so. The coloring took longer, about an hour at most. The background and Storm logo were stock images I got off the internet. I gonna try and do another soon, a better one of Storm in her actual costume and not the generic one I threw together lol. I'm working on one for Bishop and Wolverine atm though.[/QUOTE]
oh very cool!!! I was curious as to when you created this because I was wondering if it took into account some of her most recent feats. but when you update the look please share!!!
[QUOTE=Sin Nick;5057210]The discussion about Storm's stats gave me the idea to create this - [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/fFPMknL.png[/IMG]
It's just my personal opinion on how I view Storm's abilities... and I also just wanted a reason to post one of my Storm drawings lol.[/QUOTE]
Mental powers?!? What mental abilities do you refer to?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057283]how absurd of me to answer a question based upon the info you provided without any links and only an image.[/QUOTE] At least we both agree on it being absurd!
[QUOTE=misty101;5057404]At least we both agree on it being absurd![/QUOTE]
it was sarcasm lovely but I'm sure you knew that.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057423]it was sarcasm lovely but I'm sure you knew that.[/QUOTE] Yes, what a truly bizarre exchange on this forum.
I try to post something nice for everyone to see and you turn it into something negative and bitchy.
[QUOTE=Sin Nick;5057210]The discussion about Storm's stats gave me the idea to create this - [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/fFPMknL.png[/IMG]
It's just my personal opinion on how I view Storm's abilities... and I also just wanted a reason to post one of my Storm drawings lol.[/QUOTE]
Nice. I’d give Storm A 7 in the Energy Department. Since she is not manipulating Divine Energy.
And I give some a 3 in durability. Any person that can survive getting slammed to the ground 10-15ft in the air and still move? Is slightly above Human.
Other than nice Stats
[QUOTE=misty101;5057437]Yes, what a truly bizarre exchange on this forum.
I try to post something nice for everyone to see and you turn it into something negative and bitchy.[/QUOTE]
I liked it. It was actually a good way to get into Storm.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057075]not seeing Coates work but seeing Xmen Gold makes that list instant garbage but thanks for sharing though.
[img]https://media2.giphy.com/media/bkfC9cl4oVpOv2tfTo/giphy.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Guggenheim’s X-Men Gold was not part of the Guide for Storm.
Thank you stormphoenix, yes it was a great guide even if it was Claremont heavy. But he did so much with the character (Doom, Dracula, Morlocks, Stormcaster, Lifedeath), that its hard to ignore his work as a Storm fan!
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5057463]I liked it. It was actually a good way to get into Storm.
Guggenheim’s X-Men Gold was not part of the Guide for Storm.[/QUOTE]
that's wat that other user said but how is anyone to know that based upon the screenshot provided and I dont have Instagram
[QUOTE=Micabe;5057380]Mental powers?!? What mental abilities do you refer to?[/QUOTE]
Well, I feel the ability to create a tornado or cause a lightning strike while on the complete opposite side of the globe requires a severe degree of mental control.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5057459]Nice. I’d give Storm A 7 in the Energy Department. Since she is not manipulating Divine Energy.
And I give some a 3 in durability. Any person that can survive getting slammed to the ground 10-15ft in the air and still move? Is slightly above Human.
Other than nice Stats[/QUOTE]
Thanks! My ratings was based on the descriptions Marvel gave and a 7 in the energy department were reserved for cosmic beings like Galactus and the like. Storm's powerful, but is she really cosmic level? As for her durability, I took other characters into consideration too. Say if I gave Storm a 3 in durability, then I'd have to up Wolverine's to a 6(I have him at a 5). These are just personal opinions I have tho... just fanboy stuff lol.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057501]that's wat that other user said but how is anyone to know that based upon the screenshot provided and I dont Instagram[/QUOTE]
The post said first thing it was about Storm fans on Instagram. Why would you comment about it at all if you had no intention of reading?
[QUOTE=Sin Nick;5057643]Well, I feel the ability to create a tornado or cause a lightning strike while on the complete opposite side of the globe requires a severe degree of mental control.
Thanks! My ratings was based on the descriptions Marvel gave and a 7 in the energy department were reserved for cosmic beings like Galactus and the like. Storm's powerful, but is she really cosmic level? As for her durability, I took other characters into consideration too. Say if I gave Storm a 3 in durability, then I'd have to up Wolverine's to a 6(I have him at a 5). These are just personal opinions I have tho... just fanboy stuff lol.[/QUOTE]
She is not there yet, but she will get there. She needs just a little bit more push, into her godhood and for her to accept it, finally, and say "Yes, I am a Goddess. I am the Hadari Yao."
[QUOTE=vladko92;5057781]She is not there yet, but she will get there. She needs just a little bit more push, into her godhood and for her to accept it, finally, and say "Yes, I am a Goddess. I am the Hadari Yao."[/QUOTE]
exactly!! I'm really ready for her to embrace this aspect of her godhead. if this character in x of swords is in fact her ancestor maybe she will be the catalyst that causes her to do it.
[QUOTE=Ser Pounce;5057762]The post said first thing it was about Storm fans on Instagram. Why would you comment about it at all if you had no intention of reading?[/QUOTE]
I think I'm entitled to make a reply to a post on CBR regardless if I choose to make the effort of figuring out where on Instagram I would need to go to see the actual list the user referenced (in fact I did that and couldnt find the list because the platform allows you to only scroll so far when you are not on the platform). Also, if the link would have been provided in lieu of a screenshot I most certainly would have read the list. That said, please dont speak to my intentions as you are grossly mistaken. However, if you must know I thought the screenshot was provided for those of us who are not on Instagram which is why I commented on the image. The user clarified that the images were not the actual recommended reading list. It simply was a misunderstanding on my part which most certainly didnt need to be escalated to me "judging a book by its cover" or declarative statements on my intentions. Nevertheless, I hope that answers your question.
[QUOTE=vladko92;5055012]Nevermind... I was checking Marvel's Official Database and those statistics look so unreal for her and her accomplishments. Emma has her statistics much, much higher... like how? No those statistics are definitely unreal:
DURABILITY: 2
ENERGY: 5?
FIGHTING SKILLS: 4?
INTELLIGENCE: 2? For real...
SPEED: 3... how...?
STRENGTH: 3
From the above statistics I agree with Strength and Durability... but the rest... are they for real?
Even Iron Man has much higher statistics and he is using just a suit...[/QUOTE]
The first X-Men trading card series first expanded the power grids to include more rounded categories. I always thought it was her intelligence and fighting ability that should have been bumped up.
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[QUOTE=Micabe;5057380]Mental powers?!? What mental abilities do you refer to?[/QUOTE]
The series also classified and set the standard for Storm's powers as being mental rather than energy based.
Thanks for the comments, yes, ut truly was a great list. I couldn't help but notice a big gap in the recommendations, hopefully Dawn of X will give her a big storyline that can go in her guides.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5057817]Also, if the link would have been provided in lieu of a screenshot I most certainly would have read the list. [/QUOTE] Stop telling me to provide a link, it's a story app, you cannot provide a link, it's impossible.
[QUOTE=superjosh;5057901]The first X-Men trading card series first expanded the power grids to include more rounded categories. I always thought it was her intelligence and fighting ability that should have been bumped up.
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The series also classified and set the standard for Storm's powers as being mental rather than energy based.[/QUOTE]
Yep, I believe her intelligent should be increase to at least 4, she is a queen after all and being a queen requires intelligence, pretty much like Emma, she is the White Queen therefore she has to be intelligent, one of the reasons why her intelligence is so high. Now Storm doesn't have Emma's experience, but she definitely isn't 3, I would take it 4 to 5.
We should really poke Hickman whenever he posts something else regarding her stats, they need to be properly adjusted to her accomplishments.
[QUOTE=misty101;5057994]Thanks for the comments, yes, ut truly was a great list. I couldn't help but notice a big gap in the recommendations, hopefully Dawn of X will give her a big storyline that can go in her guides.
Stop telling me to provide a link, it's a story app, you cannot provide a link, it's impossible.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to bump into this, but I also checked that photo and I didn't see a link, I even checked the Instagram post and I still didn't see a link, therefore I have zero idea what was the referred reading order for Storm, therefore, I withheld myself from commenting. Even though I really wanted to check if I read everything, I believe having a link or precise screenshot of the recommendations would have been much easier to understand.
[QUOTE=superjosh;5057901]The first X-Men trading card series first expanded the power grids to include more rounded categories. I always thought it was her intelligence and fighting ability that should have been bumped up.
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The series also classified and set the standard for Storm's powers as being mental rather than energy based.[/QUOTE]
I always thought they had her weight way too low for being a tall, muscular, athletic elite woman.
[QUOTE=Ser Pounce;5058173]I always thought they had her weight way too low for being a tall, muscular, athletic elite woman.[/QUOTE]
Well in the current series Dawn of X, she is rather slim and fit, not athletic.
[QUOTE=Ser Pounce;5058173]I always thought they had her weight way too low for being a tall, muscular, athletic elite woman.[/QUOTE]
I agree. That's disgustingly low for a female that tall. I'm 5'11 as well, more close to 6'0 than 5'11 and i'm 180. I still look slim.