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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4888389]I'm not sure I'm understanding you[/QUOTE]
Hickmans classification for Omega is that nobody can outclass the mutant in their particular area of control. If Crystal is as good at weather manipulation at Storm, than she can't be considered Omega. But I don't know how long ago that scan was or what book it was in.
Storm is in her early costume so that fight happened near the beginning of her superhero career. It's probably safe to say that she has just gotten stronger than Crystal over time, if she was ever even weaker or equal to her to begin with. Besides, this still seems like flimsy evidence. She flat out says she can barely concentrate due to the attack by Pietro, so she clearly isn't even at her 100% best in this showing. You can go even further and say that Crystal isn't exactly a weather manipulator to begin with. She is an elemental manipulator, so there are subtle differences in the mechanics of how each achieve the same effects.
And even so, why does it matter? Retcons happen all the time. She's better now according to Hickman. If other fans are salty, maybe they can just wait till he is gone and someone else retcons it if they care so much. Although I still don't know why omega classification elicits such strong reactions/emotions in people. Besides Franklin, Hickman hasn't even made omega classification a plot point in any story and doesn't appear to be making it a significant priority any time soon either. Honestly, I'm not sure why he even bothered to pare the list down. Don't think it matters how many omegas were running around. It got silly but was easily ignorable for me.
That Storm/Crystal page is from Uncanny X-Men:First Class or whatever, and is not even proper canon. About half of those images come from alternate universes/What Ifs/etc(non 616 canon). And they are all of her lowest showings. Omega is based on the high end stuff, which for Storm, clearly puts her above the competition.
[QUOTE=Cville;4888326]I think the best case the poster made for not being Omega was the scan of her interaction with Crystal. Since Hickmans' definition is Storm is only an Omega for weather manipulation.[/QUOTE]
to be fair storm was punched by quicksilver right before the scan that Instagram user posted. she was still dazed when crystal attacked.
also recall ivx. crystal and iso couldnt move the terrigen mist cloud on their own and needed ororos help to do it.
ororo alternatively on her own was able to do so.
[QUOTE=Saturius;4888428]Storm is in her early costume so that fight happened near the beginning of her superhero career. It's probably safe to say that she has just gotten stronger than Crystal over time, if she was ever even weaker or equal to her to begin with. Besides, this still seems like flimsy evidence. She flat out says she can barely concentrate due to the attack by Pietro, so she clearly isn't even at her 100% best in this showing. You can go even further and say that Crystal isn't exactly a weather manipulator to begin with. She is an elemental manipulator, so there are subtle differences in the mechanics of how each achieve the same effects.
And even so, why does it matter? Retcons happen all the time. She's better now according to Hickman. If other fans are salty, maybe they can just wait till he is gone and someone else retcons it if they care so much. Although I still don't know why omega classification elicits such strong reactions/emotions in people. Besides Franklin, Hickman hasn't even made omega classification a plot point in any story and doesn't appear to be making it a significant priority any time soon either. Honestly, I'm not sure why he even bothered to pare the list down. Don't think it matters how many omegas were running around. It got silly but was easily ignorable for me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I Agree.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4888440]to be fair storm was punched by quicksilver right before the scan that Instagram user posted. she was still dazed when crystal attacked.
also recall ivx. crystal and iso couldnt move the terrigen mist cloud on their own and needed ororos help to do it.
ororo alternatively on her own was able to do so.[/QUOTE]
True, Storm casually moved the T-cloud while talking to the other X-men. Crystal at best is city level manipulation, while Storm has global level manipulation.
Not trying to start a conversation. Just telling the truth.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4888634]True, Storm casually moved the T-cloud while talking to the other X-men. Crystal at best is city level manipulation, while Storm has global level manipulation.
Not trying to start a conversation. Just telling the truth.[/QUOTE]
you're speaking nothing but facts. people tend to like to post scans while not offering full context.
and our gurl has healed entire dimensions before. I would say her power extends far beyond just the global aspects but I agree with u in the comparison. crystal is simply outclassed.
Y'all know we're not supposed to talk about her powers in here since its all we talk about XD
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4888722]Y'all know we're not supposed to talk about her powers in here since its all we talk about XD[/QUOTE]
oooopppp....
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how about we talk about what her favorite restaurant, book or tv show is instead?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4888730]oooopppp....
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how about we talk about what her favorite restaurant, book or tv show is instead?[/QUOTE]
Omg tea. I wonder if she's a vegan?
[URL="https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-mother-ghost-no-prize-explanation/"]https://www.cbr.com/x-men-storm-mother-ghost-no-prize-explanation/[/URL]
crystal plays checkers, ororo plays a whole DnD campaign with original script+monsters+handmade dice that incorporates chess into the game
[QUOTE=Ferro;4889116]crystal plays checkers, ororo plays a whole DnD campaign with original script+monsters+handmade dice that incorporates chess into the game[/QUOTE]
Not you spilling tea
Lol that hate thread is truly pathetic. However I can't say I'm surprised. Storm invokes fear and brings out the weakness among the most frail.
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The best is knowing that Storm's role among the X-verse is set to increase, so the Storm haters can STAY MAD!
[QUOTE=nj06;4889347]Lol that hate thread is truly pathetic. However I can't say I'm surprised. Storm invokes fear and brings out the weakness among the most frail.
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The best is knowing that Storm's role among the X-verse is set to increase, so the Storm haters can STAY MAD![/QUOTE]
Pryde of the X-men's Storm was the first time I saw a black superhero. Until then, I only knew about Spider-man and His Amazing Friends (Still love Firestar) and Super Friends. When I saw Storm as a X-man and her powers I instantly fell in love. Till this day i fondly remember watching that episode and wishing I could control the weather.
So "F" them. Long live Storm and her fans.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4889435]Pryde of the X-men's Storm was the first time I saw a black superhero. Until then, I only knew about Spider-man and His Amazing Friends (Still love Firestar) and Super Friends. When I saw Storm as a X-man and her powers I instantly fell in love. Till this day i fondly remember watching that episode and wishing I could control the weather.
So "F" them. Long live Storm and her fans.[/QUOTE]
True words!
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what hate thread?
[QUOTE=nj06;4889347]Lol that hate thread is truly pathetic. However I can't say I'm surprised. Storm invokes fear and brings out the weakness among the most frail.
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The best is knowing that Storm's role among the X-verse is set to increase, so the Storm haters can STAY MAD![/QUOTE]
You are so right! She does invoke the feelings you described in unimaginable ways; it's quite sad. I just remember how users here and other sites (including mids) would talk so much trash when her fans would call her an omega or goddess. now you have two separate marvel writers confirm what her fanboys have been saying for years.
so yes they can stay mad while marvel continues to give ororo the credit and respect she deserves.
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[QUOTE=Ferro;4889463]what hate thread?[/QUOTE]
[url]https://whatadouche-bag.tumblr.com/post/166444285116/why-storm-is-not-omega-level-mutant-welcome-to/amp?is_liked_post=1&__twitter_impression=true[/url]
oh post this on twitter cause it stinks of racism as fuckkkk, tumblr posters get way too brave because that platform is dead
[QUOTE=Ferro;4889487]oh post this on twitter cause it stinks of racism as fuckkkk[/QUOTE]
these girls just pressed af. they can stay pressed it wont take anything away from her.
who goes out their way to make hate thread for characters ? insecurity is a mf'kr
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4889501]these girls just pressed af. they can stay pressed it wont take anything away from her.
who goes out their way to make hate thread for characters ? insecurity is a mf'kr[/QUOTE]
only characthers relevant enough get hate threads lol, the blog saying storm doesnt have a lot of fans , my boi shes an A list the general public knows
[QUOTE=Ferro;4889507]only characthers relevant enough get hate threads lol, the blog saying storm doesnt have a lot of fans , my boi shes an A list the general public knows[/QUOTE]
you're absolutely right boo as always.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4889435]Pryde of the X-men's Storm was the first time I saw a black superhero. Until then, I only knew about Spider-man and His Amazing Friends (Still love Firestar) and Super Friends. When I saw Storm as a X-man and her powers I instantly fell in love. Till this day i fondly remember watching that episode and wishing I could control the weather.
So "F" them. Long live Storm and her fans.[/QUOTE]
yes pa!!! you betta preach! f em indeed!
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4889474]You are so right! She does invoke the feelings you described in unimaginable ways; it's quite sad. I just remember how users here and other sites (including mids) would talk so much trash when her fans would call her an omega or goddess. now you have two separate marvel writers confirm what her fanboys have been saying for years.
so yes they can stay mad while marvel continues to give ororo the credit and respect she deserves.
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The naysayers find the boundaries they tried to place on Storm breaking and they don't know how to cope! All the while, We the Faithful, have been over here [B][I][U]flourishing[/U][/I][/B][B][I][U]![/U][/I][/B]
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[QUOTE=nj06;4889532]The naysayers find the boundaries they tried to place on Storm breaking and they don't know how to cope! All the while, We the Faithful, have been over here [B][I][U]flourishing[/U][/I][/B][B][I][U]![/U][/I][/B]
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Yes the naysayers do and continue trying to impose boundaries on what she can do or what they THINK she should do but blessed be to the Hadari Yao!!!! Her faithful followers have NEVER been swayed in the onslaught of hate and for this our perseverance has allowed us to thrive 100 fold!!!! We are indeed flourishing!!!!
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Who remembers X-Men 205?
Storm leads a classic team of Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Archangel & Colossus into battle against Sinister, the Acolytes, the Marauders, Gambit, Sunfire & Mystique with Emma also psychically helping the X-Men.
The fight goes pear shaped thanks to Pixie but Storm is last man standing rescuing the others and takes on the whole entire group of villains!
One of my favourite issues of all time, which I could post the scan but I don't know how, I loved when Mike Carey wrote Storm.
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[QUOTE=JasmineW;4889629]Who remembers X-Men 205?
Storm leads a classic team of Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Archangel & Colossus into battle against Sinister, the Acolytes, the Marauders, Gambit, Sunfire & Mystique with Emma also psychically helping the X-Men.
The fight goes pear shaped thanks to Pixie but Storm is last man standing rescuing the others and takes on the whole entire group of villains!
One of my favourite issues of all time, which I could post the scan but I don't know how, I loved when Mike Carey wrote Storm.[/QUOTE]
are you referring to uncanny? if so I actually don't recall the issue. could you post scans that would be awesome!
i was thinking the other day, and if storm gets a solo I want it to be in the vein of immortal hulk that gave the characther an extremelly deep universe, lore and new and old rogues brought to another level, and she needs a realy reallly cool nemesis.
every solo characther needs an unique nemesis, a joker, a cheetah, a lex luthor
[QUOTE=Ferro;4889487]oh post this on twitter cause it stinks of racism as fuckkkk, tumblr posters get way too brave because that platform is dead[/QUOTE]
The funny thing is, it's a Polaris fan that also uses CBR. But when we talk about Storm's powers in her own appreciation thread, suddenly it's all we talk about but her fans can make hate threads on tumblr.
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4889670]The funny thing is, it's a Polaris fan that also uses CBR. But when we talk about Storm's powers in her own appreciation thread, suddenly it's all we talk about but her fans can make hate threads on tumblr.[/QUOTE]
like complying characther fails doesnt make any argument, thor, dr strange, jean, mags all have jobber moments, it doesnt make them any less powerfull lol
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4889670]The funny thing is, it's a Polaris fan that also uses CBR. But when we talk about Storm's powers in her own appreciation thread, suddenly it's all we talk about but her fans can make hate threads on tumblr.[/QUOTE]
That’s the definition of a hater.
Storms powers is very unique and a very interesting concept. PERSONALLY in terms of Power Sets. I think Storm is one of the most Versatile Characters in Marvel.
How is it that not only your powerful on Earth, but your even more of a threat in Space. AND you mean to tell me her powers change depending on the environment??!!! WTF. Oh god and she can learn Magic well SHIT.
With that realization no Wonder Polaris Fans Mad.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4889655]are you referring to uncanny? if so I actually don't recall the issue. could you post scans that would be awesome![/QUOTE] No, it was Messiah Complex
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4889679]That’s the definition of a hater.
Storms powers is very unique and a very interesting concept. PERSONALLY in terms of Power Sets. I think Storm is one of the most Versatile Characters in Marvel.
How is it that not only your powerful on Earth, but your even more of a threat in Space. AND you mean to tell me her powers change depending on the environment??!!! WTF. Oh god and she can learn Magic well SHIT.
With that realization no Wonder Polaris Fans Mad.[/QUOTE]
eh no point in hating the characther, i personally love lorna and this mindset would also be harmfull when applied to her characther.
its just very silly and the type of hate we reserve for wanda :p
[QUOTE=Ferro;4889697]eh no point in hating the characther, i personally love lorna and this mindset would also be harmfull when applied to her characther.
its just very silly and the type of hate we reserve for wanda :p[/QUOTE]
Eh, true. Very True
[QUOTE=Ferro;4889668]i was thinking the other day, and if storm gets a solo I want it to be in the vein of immortal hulk that gave the characther an extremelly deep universe, lore and new and old rogues brought to another level, and she needs a realy reallly cool nemesis.
every solo characther needs an unique nemesis, a joker, a cheetah, a lex luthor[/QUOTE]
yes to all of this. and please no morlocks or forge or shadow king. gives is new and big threats.
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4889670]The funny thing is, it's a Polaris fan that also uses CBR. But when we talk about Storm's powers in her own appreciation thread, suddenly it's all we talk about but her fans can make hate threads on tumblr.[/QUOTE]
how do you know this boo?
[QUOTE=JasmineW;4889683]No, it was Messiah Complex
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oh thnks beloved I dont recall much of the story but I thought she had a limited role. I will have to reread it of these days.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4889746]yes to all of this. and please no morlocks or forge or shadow king. gives is new and big threats.
how do you know this boo?[/QUOTE]
Gimme one sec
[QUOTE=JasmineW;4889683]No, it was Messiah Complex
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I don’t remember why she had that staff.
From what I recall didn’t that thing augment her powers?