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[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4861875]Yin and Yang works well, actually, especially considering the way their heads were positioned. I also thought, and maybe someone already mentioned it here, that the lion with the white mane was her mutant self and the panther (yes, I'm claiming it as a panther, Stormphoenix) represented her Wakandan-elevated godhood. Now, while I loved the silent issue for its stunning images, this kind of guessing is the downside of having little to no dialogue.
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I like your interpretation here. it definitely works for me and I like the attention you brought to the lions' faces. And agreed to downside of it being all silent especially seeing there are so many guesses as to what it all means.
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[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4861862]So much violence for a Friday. Wow.
LOL. He smacked the **** out of that other guy. Wait, weren't you the one who said Sue went overboard when she attacked Magneto? Well. Well. Look who's violent pne now. Hmm. I knew you had it in you. :)
I think LordAllMighty is right. Take a look at the tail on each cat. The one with the mane has a tufted tail, which is normal for a lion. But the other one does not. That is a panther's tail.
LOL. I can't believe I'm having a convo about the tail of freakin predatory cats.
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I had to smack some sense into you that’s not me being violent. Me being violent is punching the Sh** out of ya now I can still do that if ya like? :-):D
You said you were in the camp of both Cats looking like Panthers. There’s no way you can mistake a lion with a white mane as a Panther.
That’s why I had to smack some sense into you.
Lawd Jesus people don’t know what a Male Lion or Panther look like. I'm going to have to smack some sense into people.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4862092]I had to smack some sense into you that’s not me being violent. Me being violent is punching the Sh** out of ya now I can still do that if ya like? :-):D
You said you were in the camp of both Cats looking like Panthers. There’s no way you can mistake a lion with a white mane as a Panther.
That’s why I had to smack some sense into you.
Lawd Jesus people don’t know what a Male Lion or Panther look like. I'm going to have to smack some sense into people.[/QUOTE]
I guess your hand will be burning from all of your slaps because I said that I thought it was a mane of hair in the sense of it being deliberately drawn like that to represent Ororo's white hair. Not a literal lion's mane. Honestly, that white lioness stuff never occurred to me. And the fact that there are two of them immediately made me think of Ororo and T'Challa.
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[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4862268]I guess your hand will be burning from all of your slaps because I said that I thought it was a mane of hair in the sense of it being deliberately drawn like that to represent Ororo's white hair. Not a literal lion's mane. Honestly, that white lioness stuff never occurred to me. And the fact that there are two of them immediately made me think of Ororo and T'Challa.
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Ok, Come here so I can slap MORE SENSE INTO YOU!!!!!!!
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Side Note: Everyone's Theory in here about the Cats was not my Theory.
I just saw them as Animals in her head and the represent Kenya. All the rest of ya'll going deep n **** talking about T'Challa and Storm and the Mane of her Godhood and blah blah.
To me they just Big Cats being on Guard LOL.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4862034][img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/54/6b/e4/546be4509491539f36eae61788e49356.jpg[/img]
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Ah thanks, i knew it was some kind of cat.
Thinking about it know couldn't the lion and panther (if it is one) be a representation of bast and her brother Hathor-Sekmet who is the Lion God. would also explain storm's cat like eyes. Not to mention it would make sense if Storm is growing in divinity her deity ancestors would be guarding her divine tree especially if that would be her "paternal" connection in Bast brother. Though it could also be a maternal connection as Basth and her brother can take the form of male or female, both are also directly related to Gaia and the elder gods as well which wouldn't mess with Osthur blessing them again later.
[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hathor-Sekhmet_(Earth-616)[/url]
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Apedamak is the storm god of ancient Nubia, and is lion-headed. It would be cool for a writer to expand upon Storm's ancestry and tie him in.
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Discussion time brothers and sisters.
Why is it that some like to denounce Storm's feats if they're not performed within an X-book? But in the same breath turn around and acknowledge fears other characters have performed outside of their own mythos?
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4862092]I had to smack some sense into you that’s not me being violent. Me being violent is punching the Sh** out of ya now I can still do that if ya like? :-):D
You said you were in the camp of both Cats looking like Panthers. There’s no way you can mistake a lion with a white mane as a Panther.
That’s why I had to smack some sense into you.
Lawd Jesus people don’t know what a Male Lion or Panther look like. I'm going to have to smack some sense into people.[/QUOTE]
Those are definitely lions. You can tell by the bottom part of their maw. Also, Storm has a identity outside T'Challa.
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[QUOTE=Su_Whisterfield;4862619]Ororo with a lightning sword.
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Looks nice but I really don't understand why Storm hasn't generated some form of elemental melee weaponry. At this point it its a criminal offense
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[QUOTE=Su_Whisterfield;4862619]Ororo with a lightning sword.
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Damn, no negative zero ice sword. No vibranium sword. Come on Marvel she's more than just lighting.
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[QUOTE=Su_Whisterfield;4862619]Ororo with a lightning sword.
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NICE, this looks silly, but COOL.
I like her Lightning Sword.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4862708]NICE, this looks silly, but COOL.
I like her Lightning Sword.[/QUOTE]
If I understand correctly the story call on ten swordsmen and on the cover there's like twenty. I'm glad she grace the cover but I wonder who those ten are going to be. Obvi Kurt ,Magic ,Wolverine, One of the Pyslockes,
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It would of be cool to see her Ruby become a Weapon.
Also apon further inspection I do indeed like the hilt or handle of her sword.
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Here's a bigger pic.
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X of Swords is a tarot card(10 of swords), that signifies ruin. I wonder where Hickman will take this(but it is nice to see Storm large and in charge in this image)?
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storm in preview wolverine
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;4862852]Here's a bigger pic.
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This seems...[I]interesting[/I]. Have any details about this event been released?
I wonder if the Lightning Sword that Storm is wielding will have any special history.
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[QUOTE=nj06;4862864]This seems...[I]interesting[/I]. Have any details about this event been released?
I wonder if the Lightning Sword that Storm is wielding will have any special history.[/QUOTE]
its probably just to be thematic to storm, like armor/iceman/cyclops have swords themed after their powers
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[QUOTE=nj06;4862864]This seems...[I]interesting[/I]. Have any details about this event been released?
I wonder if the Lightning Sword that Storm is wielding will have any special history.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://wmqcomics.com/news/marvel-announces-x-of-swords-x-men-crossover-this-july/"]http://wmqcomics.com/news/marvel-announces-x-of-swords-x-men-crossover-this-july/[/URL]
Here's the article I found.
Nearly a year ago, Jonathan Hickman and Marvel announced “House of X” and “Powers of X,” two series that changed the landscape of the X-Men forever. This year, at C2E2 in Chicago, they announced the new X-line’s first event: “X of Swords.”
The following is solicit text from Marvel:
Mutant Massacre. Age of Apocalypse. Messiah Complex. Some of the most iconic X-Men stories ever told have been realized as large-scale crossovers. This longstanding tradition continues this summer with X OF SWORDS.
Just announced to an enthusiastic crowd of X-Men fans at the X-Men Panel at C2E2, X OF SWORDS will be a 15-part crossover tying into your favorite X-Titles and led by Head of X Jonathan Hickman. In this sprawling saga, the new mutant nation of Krakoa faces their biggest challenge yet. Threatened by powerful forces from the unknown, ten mutants will rise up to defend their home. Arming themselves with legendary blades, both new and familiar ones from Marvel history, mutantkind will finally meet its mystical destiny. Impacting the entire X-Men franchise and setting the stage for the future of mutantkind, X OF SWORDS will be a modern X-Men epic that both longtime and new X-Men fans dare not miss.
“One of the cool things we are able to do now, because we’ve established the X-line and really know where we’re going, is that we’re able to try some different things out,” said Hickman. “X of Swords will be an old school crossover that meanders through the entire line. It’s almost like chapters of a story.”
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I read the most recent Black Panther issue and I really liked Storm's feat, although I do feel like it was somewhat undermined rather quickly. I really liked the art tho and Storm did look dope.
I also read X-men/Fantastic Four #2 and was disappointed with Storm's portrayal. I wanted Storm to have a greater role in this cross-over but so far its been underwhelming.
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[QUOTE=Ferro;4862869]its probably just to be thematic to storm, like armor/iceman/cyclops have swords themed after their powers[/QUOTE]
True. After looking at it again I agree with you 100%.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4862875][URL="http://wmqcomics.com/news/marvel-announces-x-of-swords-x-men-crossover-this-july/"]http://wmqcomics.com/news/marvel-announces-x-of-swords-x-men-crossover-this-july/[/URL]
Here's the article I found.
Nearly a year ago, Jonathan Hickman and Marvel announced “House of X” and “Powers of X,” two series that changed the landscape of the X-Men forever. This year, at C2E2 in Chicago, they announced the new X-line’s first event: “X of Swords.”
The following is solicit text from Marvel:
Mutant Massacre. Age of Apocalypse. Messiah Complex. Some of the most iconic X-Men stories ever told have been realized as large-scale crossovers. This longstanding tradition continues this summer with X OF SWORDS.
Just announced to an enthusiastic crowd of X-Men fans at the X-Men Panel at C2E2, X OF SWORDS will be a 15-part crossover tying into your favorite X-Titles and led by Head of X Jonathan Hickman. In this sprawling saga, the new mutant nation of Krakoa faces their biggest challenge yet. Threatened by powerful forces from the unknown, ten mutants will rise up to defend their home. Arming themselves with legendary blades, both new and familiar ones from Marvel history, mutantkind will finally meet its mystical destiny. Impacting the entire X-Men franchise and setting the stage for the future of mutantkind, X OF SWORDS will be a modern X-Men epic that both longtime and new X-Men fans dare not miss.
“One of the cool things we are able to do now, because we’ve established the X-line and really know where we’re going, is that we’re able to try some different things out,” said Hickman. “X of Swords will be an old school crossover that meanders through the entire line. It’s almost like chapters of a story.”[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. I'm gonna take a wait-and-see approach with this. I'm not really feeling the current direction of the X-verse and 15 parts does seem like a lot. If it gets positive reviews then I might pick it up.
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I have been reading over Hickman's older Marvel works(on FF, Avengers, and now Secret Wars). He does like long epics, so the 15 part story makes sense. If he's writing the whole thing, it will probably be worth it. I think this new era is fascinating, I applaud his ambition, and I am curious to see where he goes, but I agree, the tone is misgiving, and now having read his older works, I am certain it will take a steep, dark twist before long, but he always leaves a kernel of sentimentality, a drop of hope, so we'll see.
He's a great storyteller I am certain of that now. He loves repetition and symmetry. It's all very sophisticated and rich. I just find his aesthetics a bit too bleak, too nihilistic, for my liking. I think X-Men needs a bit more heart and warmth and sense of wonder. Hickman is the type to have it all figured out, and it blossoms amazingly at the crescendo, right where he planned, but it's still a bit too harsh and cold. It's strange, because he can do warmth and family really well when he wants to, and he adds touches here and there, but overall it's not his flavor.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;4862944]I have been reading over Hickman's older Marvel works(on FF, Avengers, and now Secret Wars). He does like long epics, so the 15 part story makes sense. If he's writing the whole thing, it will probably be worth it. I think this new era is fascinating, I applaud his ambition, and I am curious to see where he goes, but I agree, the tone is misgiving, and now having read his older works, I am certain it will take a steep, dark twist before long, but he always leaves a kernel of sentimentality, a drop of hope, so we'll see.
He's a great storyteller I am certain of that now. He loves repetition and symmetry. It's all very sophisticated and rich. I just find his aesthetics a bit too bleak, too nihilistic, for my liking. I think X-Men needs a bit more heart and warmth and sense of wonder. Hickman is the type to have it all figured out, and it blossoms amazingly at the crescendo, right where he planned, but it's still a bit too harsh and cold. It's strange, because he can do warmth and family really well when he wants to, and he adds touches here and there, but overall it's not his flavor.[/QUOTE]
Agreed about Hickman. He likes to play the long game and really put the characters thru the wringer. This sense of prosperity that the mutants feel now is going to come crashing down for them in a big way. Things will certainly take a turn for the worst for the X-verse very soon. I would love for their to be more warmth and wonder within the X-verse. I feel like its been lacking in that for years now.
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[QUOTE=juan678;4862862]storm in preview wolverine
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AWWW DAMN. Storm got mind-controlled here....UGH!
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Didn't Ashake invent tarot cards? I'd love for Storm to at least tap into her mystic heritage, all the mystical talk got me kinda excited for her, I'd be shocked if she wasn't chosen as one of the 10 with her magic potential.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;4862308]Ah thanks, i knew it was some kind of cat.
Thinking about it know couldn't the lion and panther (if it is one) be a representation of bast and her brother Hathor-Sekmet who is the Lion God. would also explain storm's cat like eyes. Not to mention it would make sense if Storm is growing in divinity her deity ancestors would be guarding her divine tree especially if that would be her "paternal" connection in Bast brother. Though it could also be a maternal connection as Basth and her brother can take the form of male or female, both are also directly related to Gaia and the elder gods as well which wouldn't mess with Osthur blessing them again later.
[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hathor-Sekhmet_(Earth-616)[/url][/QUOTE]
excellent points boo!!! I love it!!
[QUOTE=CookieOnTsunami;4862571]Discussion time brothers and sisters.
Why is it that some like to denounce Storm's feats if they're not performed within an X-book? But in the same breath turn around and acknowledge fears other characters have performed outside of their own mythos?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if we had to go off of the xoffices all storm would be able to would be shoot lightning.
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thanks boo
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[QUOTE=jwatson;4861962]you know seeing this scan now makes me wonder if it is really even energy sight or can be classified as such. It seems more like an internal sense or energy patterns. I mean in the image above she is inside a cocoon healing inside the Acanti and in theory she is looking through the eyes of the Acanti and still interpreting the world around her as patterns of energy but through the eyes of another using her abilities. Never really wondered about it.[/QUOTE]
well her perception to perceive patterns of energy has canonically been tied to what she can visually see; however, internal perception vs visual perception I dont think changes anything. moreover, we see her face, or consciousness, looking at the area of space they are fighting as she becomes connected to all those energies so it could still be interpreted as her visually perceiving these patterns
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[QUOTE=Ferro;4862869]its probably just to be thematic to storm, like armor/iceman/cyclops have swords themed after their powers[/QUOTE]
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I love that Ororo has an X-Men and BP family. This week reminded Ororo fans that she has both. Jean, Scott, Logan, even Emma came to Ororo's aid, as they should and as she would and has for them in the past. Dauterman's emotional expressions were priceless. Scott and Logan sitting vigil in what felt like a sacred place was beautiful--the men waiting while the women did the work. And over in BP, the women did the work there, too. Coates has done a great job, as I believe Hudlin did as well, showing Shuri's and Ramonda's love and respect for Ororo. Shuri was a great general, trusting Ororo and Nakia to do what they did best. When it came down to Ororo showing her power and attacking N'Jadaka, Shuri did not call her Storm but Ororo, asking if she were ready. And I love Ororo's response of "Yes, sister." Mutual love and respect between these two African female characters. Ororo is older and has more combat experience than Shuri, but there was no ego between these women--Shuri led and Ororo followed. Shuri trusted and Ororo delivered.
BP #21 was such a good example of writing "Black" female characters well. This includes the dignity given to Nakia, as she laid down her life for a cause she learned to believe in, turning her back on oppression and embracing freedom.
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indeed we do love growth! you better spread this truth and knowledge.
[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4863986]I love that Ororo has an X-Men and BP family. This week reminded Ororo fans that she has both. Jean, Scott, Logan, even Emma came to Ororo's aid, as they should and as she would and has for them in the past. Dauterman's emotional expressions were priceless. Scott and Logan sitting vigil in what felt like a sacred place was beautiful--the men waiting while the women did the work. And over in BP, the women did the work there, too. Coates has done a great job, as I believe Hudlin did as well, showing Shuri's and Ramonda's love and respect for Ororo. Shuri was a great general, trusting Ororo and Nakia to do what they did best. When it came down to Ororo showing her power and attacking N'Jadaka, Shuri did not call her Storm but Ororo, asking if she were ready. And I love Ororo's response of "Yes, sister." Mutual love and respect between these two African female characters. Ororo is older and has more combat experience than Shuri, but there was no ego between these women--Shuri led and Ororo followed. Shuri trusted and Ororo delivered.
BP #21 was such a good example of writing "Black" female characters well. This includes the dignity given to Nakia, as she laid down her life for a cause she learned to believe in, turning her back on oppression and embracing freedom.[/QUOTE]
yes to all of this. I loved shuri and ororos dialogue with one another as it shows how they both value each other. there's nothing but respect and love for the tek.
yes nakias sacrifice, considering her backstory, made the move that much more moving.
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[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4863986]I love that Ororo has an X-Men and BP family. This week reminded Ororo fans that she has both. Jean, Scott, Logan, even Emma came to Ororo's aid, as they should and as she would and has for them in the past. Dauterman's emotional expressions were priceless. Scott and Logan sitting vigil in what felt like a sacred place was beautiful--the men waiting while the women did the work. And over in BP, the women did the work there, too. Coates has done a great job, as I believe Hudlin did as well, showing Shuri's and Ramonda's love and respect for Ororo. Shuri was a great general, trusting Ororo and Nakia to do what they did best. When it came down to Ororo showing her power and attacking N'Jadaka, Shuri did not call her Storm but Ororo, asking if she were ready. And I love Ororo's response of "Yes, sister." Mutual love and respect between these two African female characters. Ororo is older and has more combat experience than Shuri, but there was no ego between these women--Shuri led and Ororo followed. Shuri trusted and Ororo delivered.
BP #21 was such a good example of writing "Black" female characters well. This includes the dignity given to Nakia, as she laid down her life for a cause she learned to believe in, turning her back on oppression and embracing freedom.[/QUOTE]
All great points. I love the relationship between Ororo and Shuri. There is a tremendous amount of respect and love for one another. I also love that Ororo refers to Shuri as her sister.
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[QUOTE=nj06;4864405]All great points. I love the relationship between Ororo and Shuri. There is a tremendous amount of respect and love for one another. I also love that Ororo refers to Shuri as her sister.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I love that Coates had Ororo call Shuri "sister." It doesn't matter that Ororo and T'Challa are no longer married, the women still think of and treat each other as sisters. I would love more Ororo and Shuri team-up, even just showing them being silly and having fun during their downtime, as women not necessarily as heroes and leaders.
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Coates's run on Black Panther ENDS this June.
So he has no excuse for not pitching a Storm book to X-Office.
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[url]https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ta-nehisi-coates-leaving-marvels-black-panther-1281840[/url]
good job caotes!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4864602][url]https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ta-nehisi-coates-leaving-marvels-black-panther-1281840[/url]
good job caotes!![/QUOTE]
I'm sure many BP fans are cheering this news. Since I've enjoyed Coates writing of T'Challa and Ororo as a couple, I do wonder what the future holds for them. I guess it's not a coincidence then that the X-writers are now doing something with Ororo as Coates departs BP. Sigh. I hope Marvel hasn't done all of this with the couple just to backtrack again.
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;4864553]Coates's run on Black Panther ENDS this June.
So he has no excuse for not pitching a Storm book to X-Office.[/QUOTE]
All I know is.....Before he leaves HE BETTER explain more in depth of Goddess Storm. He’s been putting this off for too long.
We need ANSWERS..NOW!!!
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[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4864667]I'm sure many BP fans are cheering this news. Since I've enjoyed Coates writing of T'Challa and Ororo as a couple, I do wonder what the future holds for them. I guess it's not a coincidence then that the X-writers are now doing something with Ororo as Coates departs BP. Sigh. I hope Marvel hasn't done all of this with the couple just to backtrack again.[/QUOTE]
well now that you mention it, this does make more sense that they (the xwriters) said they wanted his story to play out. I'm not happy but hopefully the xwriters wont ignore his work.
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[QUOTE=GuiltyPleasure;4864667][B]I'm sure many BP fans are cheering this news.[/B] Since I've enjoyed Coates writing of T'Challa and Ororo as a couple, I do wonder what the future holds for them. I guess it's not a coincidence then that the X-writers are now doing something with Ororo as Coates departs BP. Sigh. I hope Marvel hasn't done all of this with the couple just to backtrack again.[/QUOTE]
Oh trust me we are lol! YES!