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[QUOTE=metalclouds;4885281]Damn I didn't even realize it's from Fox again. No wonder they had to do reshoots 3 times lol[/QUOTE]
Lol yep! It has me torn because I love the NM team (always looked at Dani as a Storm protégé). With Fox being under Disney we could get pleasantly surprised, but I won’t even bother. However, if y’all brave it and tell me its worth seeing I’ll suck it up and go.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4886405]While I appreciate the spotlight article I felt like this was someone who only read that one issue of Black Panther[/QUOTE]
Lol agreed. Its clear Ani doesn’t know the Storm. None of what she demonstrated was A new power, let alone the fact that she can control the cosmic medium. I liked where they tried to go with it and the explanation of the potential devastating applications of her powers, but yeah...they need to do their homework a little more.
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4886405]While I appreciate the spotlight article I felt like this was someone who only read that one issue of Black Panther[/QUOTE]
lolol seriously. none of what I read made any sense. just a few things I observed:
1. she used sun/rain ratio to cause the plants to grow. neither of that was present when the plants grew.
2. she used columm of air to levitate when the image wasn't drawn as such.
3. she used telekinesis to tamper with the life support systems on the ship
4. all of what she did was omega mutant abilities even though coates has not used that term one time to describe her abilities.
but yes I would agree it seems this was the first time they wrote the issue.
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On a side note. If Marvel wants to give Storm godhood/magic-based telekinesis...I would be down for that. Strictly from a defensive point of view.
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She doesnt need TK. She already has control over the winds which stimulates a similar effect
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4886860]She doesnt need TK. She already has control over the winds which stimulates a similar effect[/QUOTE]
True but I wouldn't be mad if she gained telekinesis when she goes into goddess mode.
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4886858]On a side note. If Marvel wants to give Storm godhood/magic-based telekinesis...I would be down for that. Strictly from a defensive point of view.[/QUOTE]
I wouldnt mind this either. When in goddess mode I wouldn't mind for her to have these abilities:
1. enhanced durability
2. ability to control minds or peoples will
3. teleportation
4. enhanced stamina
5. telepathy
6. tk.
7. invulnerability
8. immunity to reality warping/telepathy
her power could only be affected/combated by other gods or high level cosmic beings
[QUOTE=Havok83;4886860]She doesnt need TK. She already has control over the winds which stimulates a similar effect[/QUOTE]
I would agree an a macroscale they are similar but not when you look at things on a molecular level.
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4886858]On a side note. If Marvel wants to give Storm godhood/magic-based telekinesis...I would be down for that. Strictly from a defensive point of view.[/QUOTE]
TBH. If I saw Goddess Storm use TK I would probably start laughing. It's so random.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4886910]TBH. If I saw Goddess Storm use TK I would probably start laughing. It's so random.[/QUOTE]
why would it be random?
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4886919]why would it be random?[/QUOTE]
Because it's a random power for her to have as a God. Gods have MANY powers and the ONLY 1 comes to mind is Telekinesis? That's random.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4886925]Because it's a random power for her to have as a God. Gods have MANY powers and the ONLY 1 comes to mind is Telekinesis? That's random.[/QUOTE]
it's not anymore random for her to be causing plants to grow at an accelerated rate?
also I think almighty was saying that should be one of her powers not the only one .
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4886929]it's not anymore random for her to be causing plants to grow at an accelerated rate?
also I think almighty was saying that should be one of her powers not the only one .[/QUOTE]
That's not a power that's A by product of what she was actually doing.
I know what he was saying. It still pretty random for her to have TK. Also, User Havok83 makes a great point. TK isn't really need to a Goddess of the Weather who can make Air pressure barriers to protect her etc etc.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4886937]That's not a power that's A by product of what she was actually doing.
I know what he was saying. It still pretty random for her to have TK. Also, User Havok83 makes a great point. TK isn't really need to a Goddess of the Weather who can make Air pressure barriers to protect her etc etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah she can hold things in place with her winds. She can pick things up and bring them to her, with her winds. She can fly and levitate others, with her winds. She can deflect things hurled at her with her winds. Her control over the winds stimulate many things that TK can and I think its overkill for her to need TK on a molecular level. Its unnecessary and not directly related to her powers
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4886937]That's not a power that's A by product of what she was actually doing.
I know what he was saying. It still pretty random for her to have TK. Also, User Havok83 makes a great point. TK isn't really need to a Goddess of the Weather who can make Air pressure barriers to protect her etc etc.[/QUOTE]
what was she specifically doing that caused the plants to grow? she said she was attempting to commune with the energies that were in space. how does that cause plants to grow?
telekinesis is not only used in defensive matters. the user is exerting their mind over materials to move them. wind control and telekinesis though similar ARE NOT the same. she wouldnt be able to use wind control to move atoms on a molecular level, for example.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4886950]what was she specifically doing that caused the plants to grow? she said she was attempting to commune with the energies that were in space. how does that cause plants to grow?
telekinesis is not only used in defensive matters. the user is exerting their mind over materials to move them. wind control and telekinesis though similar ARE NOT the same. [B] she wouldnt be able to use wind control to move atoms on a molecular level,[/B] for example.[/QUOTE]
Why does she need to?
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4886957]Why does she need to?[/QUOTE]
she actually doesnt need to as her current powerset allows her to do it (changing clothes via manipulation if unstable atoms, hydrogen atoms manipulation, electrons manipulation l, etc.) however, I'm drawing a distinction between wind control and tk. they arent the same but if being a goddess added that ability it would operate as a new ability.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4886950]what was she specifically doing that caused the plants to grow? she said she was attempting to commune with the energies that were in space. how does that cause plants to grow?
telekinesis is not only used in defensive matters. the user is exerting their mind over materials to move them. wind control and telekinesis though similar ARE NOT the same. she wouldnt be able to use wind control to move atoms on a molecular level, for example.[/QUOTE]
It's a by product of what she was doing LOL I just told you that.
I know what Telekinesis is and what it does. I don't need a Lesson in it. Goddess Storm doesn't need TK she has Winds to do it. Furthermore, Goddess Mode is already OP as it is molecular level control is not really needed.
[QUOTE=Havok83;4886945]Yeah she can hold things in place with her wings. She can pick things up and bring them to her, with her winds. She can fly and levitate others, with her winds. She can deflect things hurled at her with her winds. Her control over the winds stimulate many things that TK can and I think its overkill for her to need TK on a molecular level. Its unnecessary and not directly related to her powers[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
Which is why I say it would be so random if that's something Goddess Storm did. When she has Winds.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4886957]Why does she need to?[/QUOTE]
She doesn't. It just sounds like an excuse to trying to make her more OP than she already is.
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See i thought Storm was using each plant to connect to the eco system of the ships , the plants grew as a means of showing when she had formed a strong enough connection with each micro system to control it.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;4886977]See i thought Storm was using each plant to connect to the eco system of the ships , the plants grew as a means of showing when she had formed a strong enough connection with each micro system to control it.[/QUOTE]
That actually makes more sense. And aligns to what I was saying that it was a By product of what she was really doing as you just explained.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4886974]It's a by product of what she was doing LOL I just told you that.
I know what Telekinesis is and what it does. I don't need a Lesson in it. Goddess Storm doesn't need TK she has Winds to do it. Furthermore, Goddess Mode is already OP as it is molecular level control is not really needed.
Exactly.
Which is why I say it would be so random if that's something Goddess Storm did. When she has Winds.[/QUOTE]
then what you are saying is random. that is my point. how does perceiving energy and subsequently manipulating it in space result in plants growing rapidly
you reduced tk to only defensive means. stopping people from moving such as how bast did the wakandans with her powers is not how ororo uses her wind powers. so if having TK is something typical of wakandan gods I dont see almighty's statement of ororo having it being random.
and how is she overpowered? didnt you say we dont even know all of what she can do lolol
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4887001]then what you are saying is random. that is my point. how does perceiving energy and subsequently manipulating it in space result in plants growing rapidly
you reduced tk to only defensive means. stopping people from moving such as how bast did the wakandans with her powers is not how ororo uses her wind powers. so if having TK is something typical of wakandan gods I dont see almighty's statement of ororo having it being random.
and how is she overpowered? didnt you say we dont even know all of what she can do lolol[/QUOTE]
Read what Jwatson said. He just proved my point.
TK is power that Storm has never demonstrated nor ever experience using. For her to have it in God Form is RANDOM..not sure how else to explain this.
What feats she has now she's well on her way to being OP. Weren't you also the one saying that she was OP way before me lolol
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Im not a fan of Storm as a god but if she has to be, then she is a god of weather. Any enhancements she gets should be related to the progression and control of that, not unrelated stuff
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4886905]I wouldnt mind this either. When in goddess mode I wouldn't mind for her to have these abilities:
1. enhanced durability
2. ability to control minds or peoples will
3. teleportation
4. enhanced stamina
5. telepathy
6. tk.
7. invulnerability
8. immunity to reality warping/telepathy
her power could only be affected/combated by other gods or high level cosmic beings
I would agree an a macroscale they are similar but not when you look at things on a molecular level.[/QUOTE]
I agree with everything here.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4886910]TBH. If I saw Goddess Storm use TK I would probably start laughing. It's so random.[/QUOTE]
I was more as a TK shield. Personally, goving her a solid defense would greatly increase my Vs. Debates...lol
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I'd rather have Goddess Storm immune to TP and TK as a defense than to have her be able to use it
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4886979]That actually makes more sense. And aligns to what I was saying that it was a By product of what she was really doing as you just explained.[/QUOTE]
this doesnt align to what you said. jwatson description still reflects Ororo having a direct connection to the plants. what you described earlier, a byproduct, is an indirect one.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4887021]Im not a fan of Storm as a god but if she has to be, then she is a god of weather. Any enhancements she gets should be related to the progression and control of that, not unrelated stuff[/QUOTE]
shes not the goddess of weather. she is the hadari yao, she who preserves the balance of all natural things. and before this reveal she was never just a weather manipulator. that is one of the biggest myths of her abilities.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4887015]Read what Jwatson said. He just proved my point.
TK is power that Storm has never demonstrated nor ever experience using. For her to have it in God Form is RANDOM..not sure how else to explain this.
What feats she has now she's well on her way to being OP. Weren't you also the one saying that she was OP way before me lolol[/QUOTE]
I did read his post and it didnt align to what jwats said see what I said above.
she also HAS NEVER made plants grow at an accelerated rate directly or indirectly.
and I never say she is op as she is rarely written as such. franklin is op, Wanda is op. not storm.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4887135]shes not the goddess of weather. she is the hadari yao, she who preserves the balance of all natural things. and before this reveal she was never just a weather manipulator. that is one of the biggest myths of her abilities.
I did read his post and it didnt align to what jwats said see what I said above.
she also HAS NEVER made plants grow at an accelerated rate directly or indirectly.
and I never say she is op as she is rarely written as such. franklin is op, Wanda is op. not storm.[/QUOTE]
I've lost interest in the conversation now. I'm currently engaged in another Storm conversation. Bye
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4887139]I've lost interest in the conversation now. I'm currently engaged in another Storm conversation. Bye[/QUOTE]
bye have fun!!
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Why is it that what we talk about in this thread is so upsetting? Like the girls didnt make an entire hate thread on tumblr just because Storm was added to the omega class? It's not sitting right with my spirit. I see hoods.
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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4887332]Why is it that what we talk about in this thread is so upsetting? Like the girls didnt make an entire hate thread on tumblr just because Storm was added to the omega class? It's not sitting right with my spirit. I see hoods.[/QUOTE]
Wait. Wait...wait. Someone made a hate thread on Tumblr because Storm was made an Omega?
You just stirred my old debater soul...where is this?
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4886945]Yeah she can hold things in place with her winds. She can pick things up and bring them to her, with her winds. She can fly and levitate others, with her winds. She can deflect things hurled at her with her winds. Her control over the winds stimulate many things that TK can and I think its overkill for her to need TK on a molecular level. Its unnecessary and not directly related to her powers[/QUOTE]
Good point....agreed!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4886950]what was she specifically doing that caused the plants to grow? she said she was attempting to commune with the energies that were in space. how does that cause plants to grow?
telekinesis is not only used in defensive matters. the user is exerting their mind over materials to move them. wind control and telekinesis though similar ARE NOT the same. she wouldnt be able to use wind control to move atoms on a molecular level, for example.[/QUOTE]
Well said....cosigned!
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4887338]Wait. Wait...wait. Someone made a hate thread on Tumblr because Storm was made an Omega?
You just stirred my old debater soul...where is this?[/QUOTE]
[url]https://whatadouche-bag.tumblr.com/post/166444285116/why-storm-is-not-omega-level-mutant-welcome-to/amp?is_liked_post=1&__twitter_impression=true[/url]
We literally mind our business in this thread and this is what we get. Yikes
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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4887366][url]https://whatadouche-bag.tumblr.com/post/166444285116/why-storm-is-not-omega-level-mutant-welcome-to/amp?is_liked_post=1&__twitter_impression=true[/url]
We literally mind our business in this thread and this is what we get. Yikes[/QUOTE]
Talk about being pressed! lmao!
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[QUOTE=Besouro;4887342]Well said....cosigned![/QUOTE]
thank you boo.
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4887366][url]https://whatadouche-bag.tumblr.com/post/166444285116/why-storm-is-not-omega-level-mutant-welcome-to/amp?is_liked_post=1&__twitter_impression=true[/url]
We literally mind our business in this thread and this is what we get. Yikes[/QUOTE]
why they so obsessed with our gurl smh.
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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4887366][url]https://whatadouche-bag.tumblr.com/post/166444285116/why-storm-is-not-omega-level-mutant-welcome-to/amp?is_liked_post=1&__twitter_impression=true[/url]
We literally mind our business in this thread and this is what we get. Yikes[/QUOTE]
That's some good trolling. I wonder if I pissed him or her off in a Vs. debate. LOL
[B]Wolverine:[/B] "Hey, Storm forgot to get pickles from the supermarket."
[B]WHATADOUCHE-BAG:[/B] "See, I told you she wasn't an OMEGA!!!!!" Runs to post on Tumblr.
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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;4887366][url]https://whatadouche-bag.tumblr.com/post/166444285116/why-storm-is-not-omega-level-mutant-welcome-to/amp?is_liked_post=1&__twitter_impression=true[/url]
We literally mind our business in this thread and this is what we get. Yikes[/QUOTE]
Wow, they is super Salty.
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I think the Omega Lvl classification made things a bit worse.
It makes sense, but it also contradicts itself too. And people are mad their favorite Mutant is not on the List.
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I think the best case the poster made for not being Omega was the scan of her interaction with Crystal. Since Hickmans' definition is Storm is only an Omega for weather manipulation.
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[QUOTE=Cville;4888326]I think the best case the poster made for not being Omega was the scan of her interaction with Crystal. Since Hickmans' definition is Storm is only an Omega for weather manipulation.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I'm understanding you
