Wait where do we get information that Storm is going into space? Did I miss something? Is this a new book coming out?
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Wait where do we get information that Storm is going into space? Did I miss something? Is this a new book coming out?
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5299159]Best-case scenario for the BP/Storm fans is a little send off in Coates's final issues. With the MCU almost certainly not recasting T'Challa, it's essentially a deadend(to be fair, I think the MCU should recast, and find a younger actor to maximize the longevity of the character, but it's not looking favorable) in the grand scheme of things.[/QUOTE]
I agree. There is absolutely no value in it for ororo, but then in my opinion there wasn't any there in the first place unless you want to count a light show and a goddess status that still has no real definition or meaning. Also i hope this ends any ideas of Storm being in the BP franchise, it's ok to have two successful black franchises.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5299171]why would that be best case? Hickman definitely left it open-ended enough to where positive future interactions can occur. the Wakandans one time use sword that will never be used again in any books was returned safely to them so where is the loss in that? also whenever the next BP writer comes along who is to say that this writer wouldnt allow their romance to endure? Coates has shown the two can coexist in a healthy manner when a writer [b][u]WANTS[/u][/b] it be as such without either being diminished.
general comment: storm isn't creating her "own" path. anything and everything she is doing now is based upon the mandate of being a mutant, which has always been xaviers path dictated to her. her disregarding her past relationships for the sake of a sword she barely used for the sake of "her people" certainly should be indicative of this.[/QUOTE]
Well we do know that thankfully the Storm rights are apparently back with Hickman in the X-office a they made it a point several times in the past why they didn't do a story for her and why now they are full steam ahead. I just don't see the x-office being so generous this time around when they have more leverage.
and some would argue her entire story in BP was dictated by being tchalla's wife/girlfriend. Who to save. What to take. When to fight. When not to fight.be
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5298963]100% agree. she was the showstopper in many ways. she had full control of her powers and was immensely powerful. jean was given phoenix to put her on the level of storm and was the first Black character to lead a major superhero team. he definitely was the original storm fan as shown through his early work of storm and those stories were truly great to read as a storm fan.
oan: great news. there was a writer who didn't fancy storm and wanted to erase Coates work lobbying to write the next BP book. they will not be on the book so that is a win for those who appreciated what coates' did.
love currently wins:
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Yes, I need this. Please Marvel don't disappointment by undoing their relationship.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5299339]Yes, I need this. Please Marvel don't disappointment by undoing their relationship.[/QUOTE]
It's already undone. Didn't that happen when Storm stole the sword?
My opinion: X-Men and Black Panther are under two different editorial controls. The X-Men wanted Storm back fully under their control to tell the story with her that they wanted to tell so they undid the Storm / Black Panther relationship for 2 reasons: to free Storm for whatever they have planned AND to drive angst/conflict for future stories.
I hadn't been invested in them as couple for YEARS so I don't care that the two split it. I am far more interested in the big plans mentioned for Storm. I hope the story arc they are working on for her is massive and has serious implications on both the X-Men Universe and the great Marvel Universe.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5299319]Well we do know that thankfully the Storm rights are apparently back with Hickman in the X-office a they made it a point several times in the past why they didn't do a story for her and why now they are full steam ahead. I just don't see the x-office being so generous this time around when they have more leverage.
and some would argue her entire story in BP was dictated by being tchalla's wife/girlfriend. Who to save. What to take. When to fight. When not to fight.be[/QUOTE]
Storm has always been an xmen character. The "rights" to her were never taken from the xoffice. In fact, Hickman and crew started developing their plan for the franchise, which includes her, when Coates first started writing the character as was mentioned by Duggan. At no point during the time she was written under Coates pen was she not in a xbook so i think that is a point that shouldn't be forgotten. Also in terms of generosity in her usage I think this is way too early to say as Hickman's plans also included Wakanda to a degree very early on before that horrific Marauder's issue written by vita so we will see.
hmm the terms in which she decided to stay and help wakanda was always on her terms so anyone arguing that point you mentioned wouldn't be doing so from a canonical standpoint.
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and she never only fought based upon her ties to him. she was very much active in fighting for things he was not invested in or tied to and did these things without being deceitful as she did in Marauders but I digress:
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Moreover, storm's path always included T'Challa (as they were childhood friends and sweethearts) well before Xavier and he never told her she was living in a fantasy. Those were words dictated to her by Charles and much of her characterization prior to Hudlin/Coates has been just that: an Xman. Thst isn't true for many of the other xmen though I wonder why??
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Lastly, her choosing love and to fight for causes beyond mutant ones is her choosing a path of her own because she has always been more than just a mutant and a Xman. Some readers say they want to see big things for her but only within the confines of being an Xman. Its very restrictive for a character who arguably should be Marvel's equivalent to WW.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5299339]Yes, I need this. Please Marvel don't disappointment by undoing their relationship.[/QUOTE]
The Hadari Yao would see it be no other way beloved!!! I trust through her strength your words will always remain true!!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5299171]why would that be best case? Hickman definitely left it open-ended enough to where positive future interactions can occur. the Wakandans one time use sword that will never be used again in any books was returned safely to them so where is the loss in that? also whenever the next BP writer comes along who is to say that this writer wouldnt allow their romance to endure? Coates has shown the two can coexist in a healthy manner when a writer [b][u]WANTS[/u][/b] it be as such without either being diminished.
general comment: storm isn't creating her "own" path. anything and everything she is doing now is based upon the mandate of being a mutant, which has always been xaviers path dictated to her. her disregarding her past relationships for the sake of a sword she barely used for the sake of "her people" certainly should be indicative of this.[/QUOTE]
The truth is, I doubt the X-office [I]wants[/I] her with BP. That's why the issue with the sword was...tacky as it was. That's the roadblock, not Storm being too busy in space or whatever.
[QUOTE=Kitty&Piotr<3;5299547]The truth is, I doubt the X-office [I]wants[/I] her with BP. That's why the issue with the sword was...tacky as it was. That's the roadblock, not Storm being too busy in space or whatever.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100% beloved!!! That's the only reason that makes sense.
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[B][SIZE=3]What title and issue is this page from?[/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
Black Panther 2016 issue 15.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5299593]I agree with you 100% beloved!!! That's the only reason that makes sense.
Black Panther 2016 issue 15.[/QUOTE]
Thanks... I am pretty sure I missed reading that issue :)
[QUOTE=Kitty&Piotr<3;5299547]The truth is, I doubt the X-office [I]wants[/I] her with BP. That's why the issue with the sword was...tacky as it was. That's the roadblock, not Storm being too busy in space or whatever.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I'm convinced that said "X-Office" simply doesn't ever want to depict any committed, monogamous [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](male/female)[/COLOR], black couples in the pages. Especially, T'Challa and Ororo...
[QUOTE=jwatson;5299319]Well we do know that thankfully the Storm rights are apparently back with Hickman in the X-office a they made it a point several times in the past why they didn't do a story for her and why now they are full steam ahead. I just don't see the x-office being so generous this time around when they have more leverage.
[B]and some would argue her entire story in BP was dictated by being tchalla's wife/girlfriend. Who to save. What to take. When to fight. When not to fight.be[/B][/QUOTE]
Learn dem, JWat.
LMAO looking at that page againa new read it's like we should be excited about this. LMAO He barely in the palace himself yet he didn't prepare the woman for the life of a queen, this royal princess just couldn't handle being cooped in a castle tchalla didn't even want to be in. LOL.
Like no, how about you should have used your free will to follow your life, not act like Ororo was not ready at the job she was born for when she was a far better Queen in protecting Wakanda during her time than it's own king who constantly needed to abandon his wife and find himself. So by the logic of comic will that was all his free will.
Also funny how some say it's her free will when a BP writer writes it and basically it's still all about him. Why aren't these supposed LOVE fans demanding a book with equal title. Naw miss me.
But i'm hoping off this convo again. It's done, i'm like 90% sure so i'm not going to waste my time throwing sand in anyone cornflakes anymore.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5299141]what i say lolol. (^_^)
and me too! like what is the problem with showing her having a good relationship with wakanda? I certainly don't care for friction between the two characters but avx as bad as it was made more sense than Vita's story. at least with ivx there was buildup that lead to them ultimately ending their relationship. with that marauders issue their conflict literally was made from nothing. I do agree I dont see things getting better for them at least from the x side.[/QUOTE]
Last thing, they didn't end anything. Tchalla abandoned his wife. This is the first time Storm was able to say no, i got responsibilities. Thanks Vita, to me it makes more sense then telling your wife to stand on the sidelines while you fight doom. Or you can't be with her because you want to be all manly in hells kitchen. lol
Edit: I lied. lol. Also what does them being together have to do with a good relationship with wakanda. She returned the sword if Tchalla and wakanda are feeling so petty over her while she looking to the stars that tells me all i need to know. Storm doesn't seem to have any animosity at all. She don't get that petty like we have seen done to her.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5299726]Learn dem, JWat.[/QUOTE]
It's just funny to me. Sometimes i wish i could say how i really feel about it, but it would def be a lifetime ban. lol Though it does kind of suck we always have to hear about tchalla but his fans ain't even stressing miss munroe for the most part. Which again to me shows one side of the equation is better for one than the other. Coat tails comes to mind.
Yupp.
The BP fans are done with Miss Munroe. As a BP fan myself, I don't blame them. They're focused on what's next for BP. Hopefully the next writer can do a better much job at placing T'Challa Top and Front and Centre of his stories. The X-writers on our side, seem intent on giving Storm a push that has nothing to do with T'Challa or Wakanda...and as a Storm fan, I'm very good with that too.
(I have no idea what that melodramatic rubbish was between Ororo and TChalla, on that page...they're both grown adults making grown adults decisions...Storm even had a heartfelt conversation with Xavier about what the marriage could mean. Coates clearly did not read what Hudlin did with them leading up to and into the marriage...even when things went to shyt, Storm and T'Challa knew and understood what they signed up for.)
Loving the topic of conversation.
Mmmhhh.
I would say it does seem like Storm has a direct path and plan as of right now with the xmen. Which Im very excited for.
But I really do believe there's big plan for Storm and I still feel some of those plans still leave room for Storm to be with T'Challa.
I do hope future writer of BP still includes Storm as part of the cast. I would not be upset with the same limited appearance she did in Coates run.
Is it weird that I prefer Storm appearing in BP books rather BP/ Wakanda appearing in any X-Men book.
If it could remain that way I'd be happy.
Storm connection with T'Challa fleshed her out so much more and made her human. Before she was just a glorified X-Men. Period.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5299962]Loving the topic of conversation.
Mmmhhh.
I would say it does seem like Storm has a direct path and plan as of right now with the xmen. Which Im very excited for.
But I really do believe there's big plan for Storm and I still feel some of those plans still leave room for Storm to be with T'Challa.
I do hope future writer of BP still includes Storm as part of the cast. I would not be upset with the same limited appearance she did in Coates run.
Is it weird that I prefer Storm appearing in BP books rather BP/ Wakanda appearing in any X-Men book.
If it could remain that way I'd be happy.
Storm connection with T'Challa fleshed her out so much more and made her human. Before she was just a glorified X-Men. Period.[/QUOTE]
It certainly did explore her submissive side. She went from and indepent woman to let my cater to you.
I hear you BGB...but Storm was never a "glorified X-Man". Yes, after the marriage her x-presence and status waned considerably but she was effectively co-starring in Hudlin's BP book and the New Fantastic 4 LS....doing much more than Coates ever did with her, so...six of one half a dozen of the other.
And just for the record, that's exactly how I like my X-Men...GLORIFIED (in the religious context) LOL
Purloined from the jean app thread (thanks to Andreikes)
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Glorified and Glorious!!!
[QUOTE=jwatson;5299815]Last thing, they didn't end anything. Tchalla abandoned his wife. This is the first time Storm was able to say no, i got responsibilities. Thanks Vita, to me it makes more sense then telling your wife to stand on the sidelines while you fight doom. Or you can't be with her because you want to be all manly in hells kitchen. lol
Edit: I lied. lol. Also what does them being together have to do with a good relationship with wakanda. She returned the sword if Tchalla and wakanda are feeling so petty over her while she looking to the stars that tells me all i need to know. Storm doesn't seem to have any animosity at all. She don't get that petty like we have seen done to her.[/QUOTE]
Honestly she saved Wakanda’s asses from the Adversary so that sword was rightfully hers anytime she needed it. T’Challa knows this, but got pissed out of pride. But the stakes for Krakoa and the entire planet Earth were too high and Stork did what she has to do. And since when does a goddess listen to the public on these matters. The only thing Storm did wrong was she didn’t tell the royal family don’t get it twisted you, I’m the goddess saved your asses from the Adversary ok more than one occasion. That makes them stupid if they hold attitude because they need her. She doesn’t need them.
Storm has connections to the elder gods Gaea and Oshtur, plus she has Asgardian connections. Plus via Captain Britain her friend Otherworld connections. Her friend Jean Grey can go Phoenix whenever she wants to. Storm has more connections than this.
The gods and sorcerers in the Avengers are not BFFs with TChalla.
[QUOTE=WallStreeter;5300115]Honestly she saved Wakanda’s asses from the Adversary so that sword was rightfully hers anytime she needed it. T’Challa knows this, but got pissed out of pride. But the stakes for Krakoa and the entire planet Earth were too high and Stork did what she has to do. And since when does a goddess listen to the public on these matters. The only thing Storm did wrong was she didn’t tell the royal family don’t get it twisted you, I’m the goddess saved your asses from the Adversary ok more than one occasion. That makes them stupid if they hold attitude because they need her. She doesn’t need them.
Storm has connections to the elder gods Gaea and Oshtur, plus she has Asgardian connections. Plus via Captain Britain her friend Otherworld connections. Her friend Jean Grey can go Phoenix whenever she wants to. Storm has more connections than this.
The gods and sorcerers in the Avengers are not BFFs with TChalla.[/QUOTE]
Preach, i said the same thing. Why would the supposed goddess of your land need to ask for permissions for anything? And even then, i honestly still can't say what Vita did was out of character for anyone in the story. That says a lot.
Storm was wrong to steal the sword. She disrespected Wakanda, she disrespected the family, she disrespected her lover and ultimately she didnt need it. She ruined relationships for nothing. It was BS
[QUOTE=Havok83;5300271]Storm was wrong to steal the sword. She disrespected Wakanda, she disrespected the family, she disrespected her lover and ultimately she didnt need it. She ruined relationships for nothing. It was BS[/QUOTE]
If they saw her as their true goddess they disrespected her by questioning her need for it. So it was a whole false god situation when we need you anyway. Better to be over. Bast has done many things to the people of Wakanda and no one said boo. So i guess now we know what is.
[QUOTE=Havok83;5300271]Storm was wrong to steal the sword. She disrespected Wakanda, she disrespected the family, she disrespected her lover and ultimately she didnt need it. She ruined relationships for nothing. It was BS[/QUOTE]
Didn’t she need the sword to enter the competition? Our girl played a pretty large role in this round of saving the entire world so if anybody is still mad about the sword that nobody missed then that’s their fault.
[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5300303]Didn’t she need the sword to enter the competition? Our girl played a pretty large role in this round of saving the entire world so if anybody is still mad about the sword that nobody missed then that’s their fault.[/QUOTE]
Especially when she was battered and bruised with her body showing receipts when she returned it. IF they are still mad about that but BP being hanging with Namor i just don't know what to say.
[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5300303]Didn’t she need the sword to enter the competition? Our girl played a pretty large role in this round of saving the entire world so if anybody is still mad about the sword that nobody missed then that’s their fault.[/QUOTE]
Thats what she was told but the prophecy was a crock of sh-t and really just a game for Saturnyne to play with them. She was making up the rules as she went and the swords really didnt matter. If Storm didnt come with the sword, it wouldnt have mattered
[QUOTE=Havok83;5300318]Thats what she was told but the prophecy was a crock of sh-t and really just a game for Saturnyne to play with them. She was making up the rules as she went and the swords really didnt matter[/QUOTE]
Storm didn't know that. *shrugs* And because they did show up with the swords, you don't know that.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5300322]Storm didn't know that. *shrugs*[/QUOTE]
She didnt but this ultimately showed that she doesnt really respect Wakanda, which should be a hard pill to swallow for them. Not only did you fight the Princess, disrespect our traditions and steal our sacred sword, but none of this even mattered because you foolishly allowed yourself to be manipulated and played into some mad woman's game which ultimately the sword had no significant impact on the outcome? Her judgement should be called into question. I dont see how the Wakandan royal family can just ignore all of this. Storm had good intentions but she got played for an idiot and Wakanda was the collateral damage that she was willing to wager . Thats how they likely will view this
[QUOTE=Havok83;5300331]She didnt but this ultimately showed that she doesnt really respect Wakanda, which should be a hard pill to swallow for them. Not only did you fight the Princess, disrespect our traditions and steal our sacred sword, but none of this even mattered because you foolishly allowed yourself to be manipulated and played into some mad woman's game which ultimately the sword had no significant impact on the outcome? Her judgement should be called into question. I dont see how the Wakandan royal family can just ignore all of this. Storm had good intentions but she got played for an idiot and Wakanda was the collateral damage that she was willing to wager . Thats how they likely will view this[/QUOTE]
Your creating a whole story based on an assumption of what would be if the story didn't go how it went and the swords weren't brought. I mean it is what it is. The story was what it was. Storm had to save the world and did. Everything else is your head canon.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5300344]Your creating a whole story based on an assumption of what would be if the story didn't go how it went and the swords weren't brought. I mean it is what it is. The story was what it was. Storm had to save the world and did. Everything else is your head canon.[/QUOTE]
Its not a whole story that I made up. We know Wakanda's take their traditions seriously. We know they said no to Storm taking the sword and we know she defied them, fought and took Shuri out with her powers and stole it. We know T'Challa destroyed the Krakoan gate and severed ties with the X-men. Canonically Storm's relationship with Wakanda is not on good terms. It is what it is
[QUOTE=Havok83;5300362]Its not a whole story that I made up. We know Wakanda's take their traditions seriously. We know they said no to Storm taking the sword and we know she defied them, fought and took Shuri out with her powers and stole it. We know T'Challa destroyed the Krakoan gate and severed ties with the X-men. Canonically Storm's relationship with Wakanda is not on good terms. It is what it is[/QUOTE]
It actually is, the part about her not needing the sword to save the world. You can't say that any one fighter would have been allowed to participate if they didn't bring their sword. That is your head canon and how Wakanda should feel seems to be based on that assumption that she betrayed them needlessly, which you are making up.
We also know Wakanda called Storm their goddess and we know she brought the sword back. So if they are still mad at her and feel they were betrayed thats on them and imo in a world where the man who drowned their nation still works with their king, funny.
And we know exactly why it was written that way...contrived as it was...To basically separate Storm and T'Challa.
And He didn't severe ties with the X-Men...he said when she returns it will be as any other diplomatic delegate...meaning not as his lover with free and easy access.
She helped save her people...and in doing so, the world. She returned the sword. She left (knowing fully the cost of her decision and actions) to go live her best life.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5300369]It actually is, the part about her not needing the sword to save the world. You can't say that any one fighter would have been allowed to participate if they didn't bring their sword. That is your head canon and how Wakanda should feel seems to be based on that assumption that she betrayed them needlessly, which you are making up.
We also know Wakanda called Storm their goddess and we know she brought the sword back. So if they are still mad at her and feel they were betrayed thats on them and imo in a world where the man who drowned their nation still works with their king, funny.[/QUOTE]
If Storm wasnt allowd to enter the tournament bc she didnt have the sword, what would have been lost? Her point would have been forfeitted giving Dath an automatic win, not that it mattered bc Saturnyne was making up the rules, giving some battles multiple points, taking others away, etc... The tournament didnt matter to the actual outcome
T'Challa has no reason to think much about what Storm did (and vice versa) because he determined that Storm taking the sword was necessary and he probably had more important issues to attend to. Why fight for a sword that he's confident his lover will return or continue to hold a grudge after the fact? He wasn't even there when she returned lol. There's like 20 world-destroying situations across the Marvel Universe at any given time, T'Challa knows the deal and Storm acted accordingly. It just wasn't on the optimal time table and their relationship suffered for it.
In response, T'Challa decided to revoke the special privileges Krakoa had by destroying the gate and normalizing movement between the two countries. Which is logical and fair, as Storm showed they could be used to cause harm to Wakanda. I take issue with certain elements but at the end of the day, it's an editorial initiative likely decided by both the Avengers and X-office. After a billion dollar film and a floundering solo by Coates, the Avengers editors probably wants to put the BP books more in line with the MCU. And with the X-Office wanting to do things with Storm, a split was needed immediately. That means the next BP solo probably introduces some version of Nakia and goes all James Bond while Storm flirts with Logan a bit and becomes a cosmic goddess. Truthfully no one is losing anything here lol.
[QUOTE=Havok83;5300391]If Storm wasnt allowd to enter the tournament bc she didnt have the sword, what would have been lost? Her point would have been forfeitted giving Dath an automatic win, not that it mattered bc Saturnyne was making up the rules, giving some battles multiple points, taking others away, etc... The tournament didnt matter to the actual outcome[/QUOTE]
Ummm if storm wasn't able to participate she would not have been there to hold off the hordes of demons that bought the x-men time until the captain britain corps were able to remerge? Which also allowed time for Scott and Jean to get the rescue team together. And thats not even mentioning points and the fact that Selvath is under control because she took death out there.
Oh she also saved Apocalypse from Genesis who in the end if he was dead we would have a whole different ending.
All of which would not have happened if she was not allowed to participate for not having her sword.
In fact..I would say everyone wins. (Except those who were only reading Black Panther for Storm appearances).
[QUOTE=chief12d;5300394]T'Challa has no reason to think much about what Storm did (and vice versa) because he determined that Storm taking the sword was necessary and he probably had more important issues to attend to. Why fight for a sword that he's confident his lover will return or continue to hold a grudge after the fact? He wasn't even there when she returned lol. There's like 20 world-destroying situations across the Marvel Universe at any given time, T'Challa knows the deal and Storm acted accordingly. It just wasn't on the optimal time table and their relationship suffered for it.
In response, T'Challa decided to revoke the special privileges Krakoa had by destroying the gate and normalizing movement between the two countries. Which is logical and fair, as Storm showed they could be used to cause harm to Wakanda. I take issue with certain elements but at the end of the day, it's an editorial initiative likely decided by both the Avengers and X-office. After a billion dollar film and a floundering solo by Coates, the Avengers editors probably wants to put the BP books more in line with the MCU. And with the X-Office wanting to do things with Storm, a split was needed immediately. That means the next BP solo probably introduces some version of Nakia and goes all James Bond while Storm flirts with Logan a bit and becomes a cosmic goddess. Truthfully no one is losing anything here lol.[/QUOTE]
Which he rightfully did as you said, severing those personal short cuts. At this point the X-office left it in a place if Wakanda wants to have a problem with what happened it's on them.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5300430]Which he rightfully did as you said, severing those personal short cuts. At this point the X-office left it in a place if Wakanda wants to have a problem with what happened it's on them.[/QUOTE]
Well I highly doubt the next BP writer is going to go out of their way to incorporate the Krakoa status quo in their stories, where the X-office still plans on using Wakandans. SWORD is going to feature Wakandan representatives and the red coloring for Wakanda in HOX may hint that Hickman plans to feature them in the future. I could be entirely wrong though so we'll see.
If there is any exploration of the Wakanda-Krakoa status quo post-Marauders #13 it'll likely come from the X-office and if the Wakandans are adversarial in that story I fully plan on blaming the X-office. Not fictional characters. Since the way Ayala left them, there's no further reason for them to interact other than concocting more drama. The gates are destroyed, Storm and T'Challa are done, if the X-Office writes a story where some Wakandans come after Krakoa for revenge, then that falls to attacking the BP franchise for no discernable reason. There's no reason for these franchises to interact past that story.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5300453]Well I highly doubt the next BP writer is going to go out of their way to incorporate the Krakoa status quo in their stories, where the X-office still plans on using Wakandans. SWORD is going to feature Wakandan representatives and the red coloring for Wakanda in HOX may hint that Hickman plans to feature them in the future. I could be entirely wrong though so we'll see.
If there is any exploration of the Wakanda-Krakoa status quo post-Marauders #13 it'll likely come from the X-office and if the Wakandans are adversarial in that story I fully plan on blaming the X-office. Not fictional characters. Since the way Ayala left them, there's no further reason for them to interact other than concocting more drama. The gates are destroyed, Storm and T'Challa are done, if the X-Office writes a story where some Wakandans come after Krakoa for revenge, then that falls to attacking the BP franchise for no discernable reason.[/QUOTE]
I agree. ^________^ If they write it it's just about two countries going to war but at this point your right, the X-side has no reason to go after Wakanda and if there is conflict in a future story presented by the x-side then your right, the x-office are dragging it on. But, if it does come to it, i am begging that Storm is not in that story at all. lol
[QUOTE=jwatson;5300458]I agree. ^________^ If they write it it's just about two countries going to war but at this point your right, the X-side has no reason to go after Wakanda and if there is conflict in a future story presented by the x-side then your right, the x-office are dragging it on. But, if it does come to it, i am begging that Storm is not in that story at all. lol[/QUOTE]
I can't imagine that if we do get some sort of Wakanda-Krakoa war Storm won't be at the center of it lol. But let's just hope it doesn't happen since all the elements are in place to return to the post-marriage status quo of the two franchises pretty much never interacting or referencing each other. Now I do think there's probably gonna be some AvX 2.0 story to cap off Hickman's era. Though I don't think that would feature T'Challa and his kingdom as main antagonists, at least just looking at the scope of what Hickman's plans are. So Storm probably won't have too much to do with that.