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The exploration of character's flaws is only beneficial if the character, in this case Ororo, continuously has writers writing about her. Storm doesn't enjoy that luxury of having an abundance of writers who want to write about her so IF such exploration bombs it will just sit there and marinate for years because i get the distinct impression that there is nobody in the X-Office that wants to protect or promote the character.
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[i]AIPT: Do you have an absolute favorite X-Men character to draw? And if so, what makes them so much fun to illustrate?
Mahmud: I really can’t pick between Jean Grey, Wolverine and Storm. They’ve been favorites ever since I started enjoying X-Men books. Storm is probably the most fun to draw among these.[/i]
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[i]She’s visually very striking with her white hair, and her powers allow for great visual possibilities. She flies, she can make it rain, she commands wind and she can call down lightning strikes. She’s also had various hairstyles and costumes which were mostly amazing. I proudly gave her a new costume design a little while ago too. So there’s that.[/i]
Alright!! Mahmud Asrar is now the second Artist who claims to really enjoy drawing and liking Storm.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5029107]Alright!! Mahmud Asrar is now the second Artist who claims to really enjoy drawing and liking Storm.[/QUOTE]
what would be nice is to see this type of interest by xwriters too. Dauterman is the first right?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5029149]what would be nice is to see this type of interest by xwriters too. [/QUOTE]
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lol.
not to be cynical but I find it odd when artists enjoy drawing her but cant find one current xwriter interested in writing her beyond playing background to other characters. odd indeed.
[QUOTE=Crimz;5028339]I just think it could be part of the reason why she's perceived as "snobby". Her time being praised as a Goddess contributes most to that of course. I just think that even Storm isn't completely immune to societies bullsh*t and the toll it takes. She's black, a woman, an immigrant (she was born in America but her being raised outside of it would make most perceive her as an immigrant), and to top it all off she's a mutant. All the crap she must put up with on the daily must be exhausting and take it's toll even on someone like Storm.
I just think there is interesting story-potential there.[/QUOTE]
I would definitely like to see the intersectionality of her being a woman, black and mutant explored more. It's something that has not been fully explored definitely by the xoffices. Coates' contributions in the regard makes it glaring obvious the deficiencies in this area from the xoffices. I again dont think it has to revolve around the idea of her needing to be perfect but I do think that there is interesting story potential there too. This can be looked at from both places of vulnerability and strength from her experiences as a black woman mutant.
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Isn't this part of the page where Storm gets totally mind humped by nanites sicced on her by a fellow mutant named Cassie Nova?
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5029107]Alright!! Mahmud Asrar is now the second Artist who claims to really enjoy drawing and liking Storm.[/QUOTE]
He already cemented himself as awesome for designing what has now become Storm's default costume for the modern era
Mahmud Asrar's Storm is always beyond exquisite...every time!
[QUOTE=Micabe;5029238]Isn't this part of the page where Storm gets totally mind humped by nanites sicced on her by a fellow mutant named Cassie Nova?[/QUOTE]
yup. the art was really nice but the writing... well.... no comment.
What do y'all expect to see Hadari Yao feats in the feature.
So far she with the faith of a country defeated the god of chaos Adversary (Hebrew for Satan)
I would like to her have durability and strength feats. It says she has immeasurable strength. I would also like to see basic transmutation, shape shifting, and energy manipulation the basics gods can do in marvel.
How powerful is Adversary?
1. He's immune to energy and physical attack. The only way to defeat him is to have high tier magic or cold iron (which won't defeat him but slow him down)
2. He defeated the multiversal guardian Roma MULTIPLE times.
Roma is very powerful. She tanked having the omniversal tower (a nexus) falling on her when the chaos wave hit it. She tanked Mastermind trying to kill her with Excalibur combined with the amulet of right which had enough power to split the multiverse and destroy Otherworld (pan dimension which is source of magic in the multiverse and contains a nexus) then returned the favor of defeating him. She can manipulate the entire omniversal tower which a nexus. Her pocket dimension is a multiverse. She was stated to be on par with Merlyn, who is multiversal and even the strongest being in otherworld.
3. He is stronger than Shaman Forge. Forge ancestors actually practice mystics that seals Adversary. Shaman Forge even out of practice was about to whoop Darkchylde Magik on Earth. He also stalemated her in Limbo where she is supreme. She only won because he threw the fight.
4. He blocked Darkchylde Magik powers
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Id love to see new adventures with that team. Its been far too long since they've been in action together
[QUOTE=KLY360;5029529]What do y'all expect to see Hadari Yao feats in the feature.
So far she with the faith of a country defeated the god of chaos Adversary (Hebrew for Satan)
I would like to her have durability and strength feats. It says she has immeasurable strength. I would also like to see basic transmutation, shape shifting, and energy manipulation the basics gods can do in marvel.
How powerful is Adversary?
1. He's immune to energy and physical attack. The only way to defeat him is to have high tier magic or cold iron (which won't defeat him but slow him down)
2. He defeated the multiversal guardian Roma MULTIPLE times.
Roma is very powerful. She tanked having the omniversal tower (a nexus) falling on her when the chaos wave hit it. She tanked Mastermind trying to kill her with Excalibur combined with the amulet of right which had enough power to split the multiverse and destroy Otherworld (pan dimension which is source of magic in the multiverse and contains a nexus) then returned the favor of defeating him. She can manipulate the entire omniversal tower which a nexus. Her pocket dimension is a multiverse. She was stated to be on par with Merlyn, who is multiversal and even the strongest being in otherworld.
3. He is stronger than Shaman Forge. Forge ancestors actually practice mystics that seals Adversary. Shaman Forge even out of practice was about to whoop Darkchylde Magik on Earth. He also stalemated her in Limbo where she is supreme. She only won because he threw the fight.
4. He blocked Darkchylde Magik powers[/QUOTE]
I have to be up super early but I agree with the stuff you would like to seem I would add to this mental control similar to what we saw bast do as well as control over all organic matter. also energy form.
[QUOTE=Havok83;5029540]Id love to see new adventures with that team. Its been far too long since they've been in action together[/QUOTE]
I wouldnt be opposed to this. this was when the xmen were truly perfect imo.
With these artist mentioning their love for storm i really hope this is them throwing their hats in the ring for a solo that is development behind the scenes.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5029529]What do y'all expect to see Hadari Yao feats in the feature.
So far she with the faith of a country defeated the god of chaos Adversary (Hebrew for Satan)
I would like to her have durability and strength feats. It says she has immeasurable strength. I would also like to see basic transmutation, shape shifting, and energy manipulation the basics gods can do in marvel.
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Good Question.
Honestly, the exact same stuff you mentioned. For a Goddess Of Balance I expect her Physical Stats to increase. That means: Durability, Speed, Strength, Reaction. As a God or Goddess your body is no longer under Mortal Limits.
Now as for power. I expect her to be operating at least High on the cosmic scale. She should she be able to manipulate all forms of Energy. Also, she should have new abilities like: Telepathy and Transmutation and Shapeshifting as well. When I think of the Title. “Goddess of Balance” of all Natural Things. I think of maintaining Balance throughout the Universe. Kinda like what the Living Tribunal Does.
And if Adversary is nothing but a God of Pure Chaos. It’s Storms Job as a Goddess of Balance to restore things. Which is why she needs Cosmic Awareness. .
[QUOTE=KLY360;5029529]
How powerful is Adversary?
1. He's immune to energy and physical attack. The only way to defeat him is to have high tier magic or cold iron (which won't defeat him but slow him down)
2. He defeated the multiversal guardian Roma MULTIPLE times.
Roma is very powerful. She tanked having the omniversal tower (a nexus) falling on her when the chaos wave hit it. She tanked Mastermind trying to kill her with Excalibur combined with the amulet of right which had enough power to split the multiverse and destroy Otherworld (pan dimension which is source of magic in the multiverse and contains a nexus) then returned the favor of defeating him. She can manipulate the entire omniversal tower which a nexus. Her pocket dimension is a multiverse. She was stated to be on par with Merlyn, who is multiversal and even the strongest being in otherworld.
3. He is stronger than Shaman Forge. Forge ancestors actually practice mystics that seals Adversary. Shaman Forge even out of practice was about to whoop Darkchylde Magik on Earth. He also stalemated her in Limbo where she is supreme. She only won because he threw the fight.
4. He blocked Darkchylde Magik powers[/QUOTE]
The Adversary is a Powerful no Extremely Powerful God of Chaos. He lives eats and breathes it. Now, him beating Roma? I’ve never really thought it was a good feat considering Roma IMO wasn’t really that powerful to begin with.
But yes to stop Adversary you need to have powerful Magic. Yes, iron. Can hurt him, but that’s not nearly enough to stop him. You’re only delaying the inevitable. Also, Adversary is a Powerful Reality Warper too so there’s that.
This Enemy is perfect for Goddess Storm. I also wish they would incorporate Uovu the God of Death in X-Men Gold because that Villain is really PERFECT.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5030213]Good Question.
Honestly, the exact same stuff you mentioned. For a Goddess Of Balance I expect her Physical Stats to increase. That means: Durability, Speed, Strength, Reaction. As a God or Goddess your body is no longer under Mortal Limits.
Now as for power. I expect her to be operating at least High on the cosmic scale. She should she be able to manipulate all forms of Energy. Also, she should have new abilities like: Telepathy and Transmutation and Shapeshifting as well. When I think of the Title. “Goddess of Balance” of all Natural Things. I think of maintaining Balance throughout the Universe. Kinda like what the Living Tribunal Does.
And if Adversary is nothing but a God of Pure Chaos. It’s Storms Job as a Goddess of Balance to restore things. Which is why she needs Cosmic Awareness. .
The Adversary is a Powerful no Extremely Powerful God of Chaos. He lives eats and breathes it. Now, him beating Roma? I’ve never really thought it was a good feat considering Roma IMO wasn’t really that powerful to begin with.
But yes to stop Adversary you need to have powerful Magic. Yes, iron. Can hurt him, but that’s not nearly enough to stop him. You’re only delaying the inevitable. Also, Adversary is a Powerful Reality Warper too so there’s that.
This Enemy is perfect for Goddess Storm. I also wish they would incorporate Uovu the God of Death in X-Men Gold because that Villain is really PERFECT.[/QUOTE]
I agree with all of this Stormphoenix.
I am still catching up with the current universe, but last when I checked Storm was unconscious and Emma and Jean went somewhere. Now I do enjoy what I see about the Goddess stuff, but I think on her more like... well Gaia. Gaia represents Storm perfectly in my personal opinion.\
For now, I really want to see her go up in space and use her electrolysis to breath since in space it is Hydrogen and Helium, even our space stations use electrolysis to make oxygen so they can breathe up there. So I can't stop but imagining that she should be doing so, as well. Furthermore, the absolute zero temperature in-space will be no problem for Storm since she can resist it. I am not so sure about the pressure, however, and the radiation.
[QUOTE=vladko92;5030296]I am still catching up with the current universe, but last when I checked Storm was unconscious and Emma and Jean went somewhere. Now I do enjoy what I see about the Goddess stuff, but I think on her more like... well Gaia. Gaia represents Storm perfectly in my personal opinion.\
For now, I really want to see her go up in space and use her electrolysis to breath since in space it is Hydrogen and Helium, even our space stations use electrolysis to make oxygen so they can breathe up there. So I can't stop but imagining that she should be doing so, as well. Furthermore, the absolute zero temperature in-space will be no problem for Storm since she can resist it. I am not so sure about the pressure, however, and the radiation.[/QUOTE]
Her powers should afford her protection from radiation and pressure too. I know in her solo she manipulated the earth's em field and ozone exposing her directly to the sun's radiation and she was not burned:
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she also didnt need a suit that protected her from radiation when even Phoenix powered Jean had to wear one:
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she also didnt need a suit that protected her from radiation when even Phoenix powered Jean had to wear one:
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I dont think the suit was used to protect from radiation bc Jean in that scan says that Thunderbird is the only one immune from radiation poisoning and even he is wearing a suit. Doesnt make sense that he does if it has no effect on him. This doesnt seem clear
[QUOTE=Havok83;5030344]I dont think the suit was used to protect from radiation bc Jean in that scan says that Thunderbird is the only one immune from radiation poisoning and even he is wearing a suit. Doesnt make sense that he does if it has no effect on him. This doesnt seem clear[/QUOTE]
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the suits were meant to protect then from the toxic radiation levels Polaris was exposed to.
in terms of nesl not sure maybe he was wearing it to protect him from some other elemental hazard.
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the suits were meant to protect then from the toxic radiation levels Polaris was exposed to.[/QUOTE]
I get that but it makes no sense that Neal wore one of he was immune to it
[QUOTE=Havok83;5030362]I get that but it makes no sense that Neal wore one of he was immune to it[/QUOTE]
yea the only other thing I can think of is he were it to maybe protect him from the corrosive effects of the sludge lorna was magnetically manipulating.
Let's also remember that Roma stated if Adversary were to ever be destroyed 616 would perish. That's how important and powerful his Chaos is
[QUOTE=KLY360;5030381]Let's also remember that Roma stated if Adversary were to ever be destroyed 616 would perish. That's how important and powerful his Chaos is[/QUOTE]
yes he is needed for life to thrive. though much is unknown about him he is a very powerful god.
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Here he pushed to the front arguing on who deserves to be the true satan
This includes some of the most powerful hell lords
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Here he pushed to the front arguing on who deserves to be the true satan
This includes some of the most powerful hell lords[/QUOTE]
so help me here. I didn't think adversary was a hell lord as he doesnt have a hell dimension he presides over. I thought that issue was simply a gathering of all the demon/devil gods/entities.
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Here he pushed to the front arguing on who deserves to be the true satan
This includes some of the most powerful hell lords[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5030442]so help me here. I didn't think adversary was a hell lord as he doesnt have a hell dimension he presides over. I thought that issue was simply a gathering of all the demon/devil gods/entities.[/QUOTE]
Kyss you are right in the sense of ruling their own demons ion.
A Hell-Lord is a POWERFUL DEMON that Rules and Dominates their OWN Dimension. However, if they step OUT of their dimension their power is actually weakened the longer they are out. But they are still a powerful threat. We have seen this with Mephisto many times.
Furthermore in their Native Dimension they are essentially GOD themselves. They can do whatever they want. A Real outside the Universe Really.
Here is a list of Hell Lords that have their own dimensions are:
-Mephisto- Hell
-Satannish -Not clear what his ream is but he is the Proclaimed Son of Mephisto and is considered a Hell-Lord.
-Dormammu- Dark Dimension
-Hela- Neffielhiem
-Cyttorak- Crimson Dimension
-Belasco- Lord of Limbo
-Shumma Gorath -Lord of Chaos and Master of the extra-dimensional gods known as the Old Ones.
-Nightmare- Dream Realm
-TOBA(if you read current Hulk) The One Below All. - Below Place
-Thog- Sominus the realm of Conflict
-Azazel- The BrimeStone Dimension. This is where Nightcrawler’s Real Father is from. And where Nightcrawler teleports to in and out.
Then we have POWERFUL Demons like:
*Black Heart child of Mephisto
*Daimon HellStorm son of Satannish or Satan whichever.
*Satana Sister of Daimon HellStorm and Daughter of Satannish or Satan
*Adversary a Demon God of Chaos
So the WHOLE HELL LORD tittle is REALLY MUDDLED. And hard to put an actual Who is who and what is what. The Fact that Many Demons consider themselves the “True Satan” is hard to put them in Rank who is the most powerful.
However, Marvel has made it it important and a point that Hell -Lords are not to be trifled with. The list can always change because they can be dethroned. Currently, Johnny Blaze The Ghost Rider is the King of Hell because he dethroned Mephisto.
However, in Adversary and his Rank or position? It’s hard to say where he stands because there are many Demons that are just as powerful or even more than him. So who knows. But that doesn’t mean The Adversary isn’t a Threat. He very much is.
From my knowledge Adversary himself has a dimension of chaos. He wanted to spread that chaos to 616 universe
[QUOTE=KLY360;5030640]From my knowledge Adversary himself has a dimension of chaos. He wanted to spread that chaos to 616 universe[/QUOTE]
Adversary comes from a Universe of Chaos. It’s not stated if it his own personal realm of Chaos.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5030641]Adversary comes from a Universe of Chaos. It’s not stated if it his own personal realm of Chaos.[/QUOTE]
Wished they explained that more. It does explain whether it's his dimension or from there. All it says is native dimension.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5030648]Wished they explained that more. It does explain whether it's his dimension or from there. All it says is native dimension.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Marvel needs to give us more information on him.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5030562]Kyss you are right in the sense of ruling their own demons ion.
A Hell-Lord is a POWERFUL DEMON that Rules and Dominates their OWN Dimension. However, if they step OUT of their dimension their power is actually weakened the longer they are out. But they are still a powerful threat. We have seen this with Mephisto many times.
Furthermore in their Native Dimension they are essentially GOD themselves. They can do whatever they want. A Real outside the Universe Really.
Here is a list of Hell Lords that have their own dimensions are:
-Mephisto- Hell
-Satannish -Not clear what his ream is but he is the Proclaimed Son of Mephisto and is considered a Hell-Lord.
-Dormammu- Dark Dimension
-Hela- Neffielhiem
-Cyttorak- Crimson Dimension
-Belasco- Lord of Limbo
-Shumma Gorath -Lord of Chaos and Master of the extra-dimensional gods known as the Old Ones.
-Nightmare- Dream Realm
-TOBA(if you read current Hulk) The One Below All. - Below Place
-Thog- Sominus the realm of Conflict
-Azazel- The BrimeStone Dimension. This is where Nightcrawler’s Real Father is from. And where Nightcrawler teleports to in and out.
Then we have POWERFUL Demons like:
*Black Heart child of Mephisto
*Daimon HellStorm son of Satannish or Satan whichever.
*Satana Sister of Daimon HellStorm and Daughter of Satannish or Satan
*Adversary a Demon God of Chaos
So the WHOLE HELL LORD tittle is REALLY MUDDLED. And hard to put an actual Who is who and what is what. The Fact that Many Demons consider themselves the “True Satan” is hard to put them in Rank who is the most powerful.
However, Marvel has made it it important and a point that Hell -Lords are not to be trifled with. The list can always change because they can be dethroned. Currently, Johnny Blaze The Ghost Rider is the King of Hell because he dethroned Mephisto.
However, in Adversary and his Rank or position? It’s hard to say where he stands because there are many Demons that are just as powerful or even more than him. So who knows. But that doesn’t mean The Adversary isn’t a Threat. He very much is.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I agree with your classification. As you mentioned hell lords are at their most poeerfyo.when in their dimension they rule. Once removed the longer they are away the less powerful they become or if one blocks the demon god their connection to their energy source (tchalla was able to do this when mephisto was on earth). Adversary powers are not contingent upon where he resides. He is powerful wherever he goes. Also, I'm not sure the other hell lords were described as being necessary to live as their death would resort in the destruction of life itself. I would say adversary is more powerful than the hello lords.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5030655]I'm not sure I agree with your classification. As you mentioned hell lords are at their most poeerfyo.when in their dimension they rule. Once removed the longer they are away the less powerful they become or if one blocks the demon god their connection to their energy source (tchalla was able to do this when mephisto was on earth). Adversary powers are not contingent upon where he resides. He is powerful wherever he goes. Also, I'm not sure the other hell lords were described as being necessary to live as their death would resort in the destruction of life itself. I would say adversary is more powerful than the hello lords.[/QUOTE]
It’s not MY classification. This is Marvel’s. All that information I got from Marvel.
I don’t think Adversary is more powerful than some of them. Most of them can do exactly what Adversary can and more. I’d argue Dormammu and Shumma m Gorath can beat the Adversary.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5030659]It’s not MY classification. This is Marvel’s. All that information I got from Marvel.
I don’t think Adversary is more powerful than some of them. Most of them can do exactly what Adversary can and more. I’d argue Dormammu and Shumma m Gorath can beat the Adversary.[/QUOTE]
where do they classify them as stronger than adversary?
and please dont say msrvel.com that website is dreadfully inaccurate.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5030662]where do they classify them as stronger than adversary?
and please dont say msrvel.com that website is dreadfully inaccurate.[/QUOTE]
It’s From their Database.
As for Classification like I said earlier it’s very Muddled. It’s like they can’t make up their minds. However, Marvel makes the Hell-Lords a powerful bunch of Demons. Why? No clue. Bit they are at the Top. Can the Adversary beat them? I’d say some of them. Not all.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;5030669]It’s From their Database.
As for Classification like I said earlier it’s very Muddled. It’s like they can’t make up their minds. However, Marvel makes the Hell-Lords a powerful bunch of Demons. Why? No clue. Bit they are at the Top. Can the Adversary beat them? I’d say some of them. Not all.[/QUOTE]
yes that's not canon material boo.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5030671]yes that's not canon material boo.[/QUOTE]
Uh, Yes it is.
Their citations and references come straight from Cannon.
Ummm Roma is like mid multiversal. She reports directly to Eternity. From my understanding which is Dormammu's equal. Now Adversary is only a few steps above Roma. I don't think he's beating Dormammu. Might give him a fight but that's all.