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[QUOTE=Micabe;5214102]Err?!? I though Ororo had ascended already.[/QUOTE]
She did in the pages of Black Panther so maybe we'll see her ascend again or go into more depth about how she did it in the first place. Or it could be less a literal metamorphosis and just her taking on some kind of new role. Maybe she takes Death's place as the Horseman of Death.
I've also seen a theory that Storm becomes the new Apocalypse, as it's been hinted that the current Apocalypse is holding a mantle as opposed to giving himself that name. He's like the 8th guy to hold that title so maybe Storm succeeds him if he dies or something.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5214270]She did in the pages of Black Panther so maybe we'll see her ascend again or go into more depth about how she did it in the first place. Or it could be less a literal metamorphosis and just her taking on some kind of new role. Maybe she takes Death's place as the Horseman of Death.
I've also seen a theory that Storm becomes the new Apocalypse, as it's been hinted that the current Apocalypse is holding a mantle as opposed to giving himself that name. He's like the 8th guy to hold that title so maybe Storm succeeds him if he dies or something.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]That could be interesting as Storm's always been more closely associated with life aspects( nurturing, motherly, etc.) for lack of a better terminology.
Although she hasn't hesitated to kill before so there's always the potential.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=chief12d;5214270]She did in the pages of Black Panther so maybe we'll see her ascend again or go into more depth about how she did it in the first place. Or it could be less a literal metamorphosis and just her taking on some kind of new role. Maybe she takes Death's place as the Horseman of Death.
I've also seen a theory that Storm becomes the new Apocalypse, as it's been hinted that the current Apocalypse is holding a mantle as opposed to giving himself that name. He's like the 8th guy to hold that title so maybe Storm succeeds him if he dies or something.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5214142]jade Cargill
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Loving it. If only the cape was split winged.
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This actually genuinely made me laugh out loud. lol.
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Lol what is it? And where does it come from? LOL
[QUOTE=Stormrocks;5212352]Meh. Now that she's free of the Black Panther they can have her shine without digging into his mythos. Regardless of her status with BP, I am enjoying the current X-Men stories as a whole and Storm's part in X of Swords. They are setting up something for Storm and thus far I am still excited about it. Bring on the stories I say. Let's see where they are taking the character[/QUOTE]
100% agreed! I am enjoying the DoX/HoX/PoX and this specific event immensely. Itvhas been a longtime since X-books have this excited. I want to see where this goes for Storm.
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5214312][COLOR="#000080"]That could be interesting as Storm's always been more closely associated with life aspects( nurturing, motherly, etc.) for lack of a better terminology.
Although she hasn't hesitated to kill before so there's always the potential.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Exactly and the thing is Storm's always had the duality even where her powers are concerned. She can nurture gardens and calm storms or freeze continents and burn forests. She's always been about the balance between life and death so maybe this transformation (physical or political) pushes her more towards the latter.
We're even gonna be seeing her go back to some of those grimier aspects of her character in Marauders #17, where she's gonna be taking on Callisto, so who knows what personality/power changes she may undergo in XoS. She's definitely one of those characters that would benefit from gaining some edge and some kind of death in Otherworld is the perfect time to make that shift. How that feeds into her "big" story in 2021 remains to be seen, but the potential is there if they don't squander it with relationship BS and agendas for other characters.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5214350]Exactly and the thing is Storm's always had the duality even where her powers are concerned. She can nurture gardens and calm storms or freeze continents and burn forests. She's always been about the balance between life and death so maybe this transformation (physical or political) pushes her more towards the latter.
We're even gonna be seeing her go back to some of those grimier aspects of her character in Marauders #17, where she's gonna be taking on Callisto, so who knows what personality/power changes she may undergo in XoS. She's definitely one of those characters that would benefit from gaining some edge and some kind of death in Otherworld is the perfect time to make that shift. How that feeds into her "big" story in 2021 remains to be seen, but the potential is there if they don't squander it with relationship BS and agendas for other characters.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Yeah, this [I]can [/I]be a potential game changer for her status. If she were to take over the Death position, I don't think that she would aligned herself with the Horseman or even Krakoa for that matter. Like you said, there's the duality of life/death that will become apart of her persona and she may begin to see things differently than either side. [/COLOR]
[QUOTE=jwatson;5214321]This actually genuinely made me laugh out loud. lol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sdawg;5214326]Lol what is it? And where does it come from? LOL[/QUOTE]
It's Jean Grey with the power(s) of Apocalypse and it's from [B][U][URL="https://uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/x-termination-2"]X-Termination[/URL][/U][/B] #2 (2013)
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5214142]jade Cargill
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A little to muscular for my taste but I can actually she her playing Joanna "Frenzy" Cargill...pun intended.
My need for black love in media often outweighs the fact I really don't care for Storm and T'Challa.
I think Coates handles Storm really well but I find the relationship between them boring and does little to benefit either character. It doesn't push them or makes them show different sides of who they are, it's just so vanilla and boring.
I honestly only like it because they are both such prominent black superheroes and that shouldn't be all there is to a relationship.
[QUOTE=Crimz;5214572]My need for black love in media often outweighs the fact I really don't care for Storm and T'Challa.
I think Coates handles Storm really well but I find the relationship between them boring and does little to benefit either character. It doesn't push them or makes them show different sides of who they are, it's just so vanilla and boring.
I honestly only like it because they are both such prominent black superheroes and that shouldn't be all there is to a relationship.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather marvel make a new black love interest for Storm than try to revive T'challa/Storm. They're just too much melodrama and have crossed each others lines too many times.
[QUOTE=Crimz;5214572]My need for black love in media often outweighs the fact I really don't care for Storm and T'Challa.
I think Coates handles Storm really well but I find the relationship between them boring and does little to benefit either character. It doesn't push them or makes them show different sides of who they are, it's just so vanilla and boring.
I honestly only like it because they are both such prominent black superheroes and that shouldn't be all there is to a relationship.[/QUOTE]
Your whole summary really comes down to writing and overall execution chief. "Black love" in modern american media mainly comic's is practically non existent and if you're looking for something like that then well you'd be better off playing roulette with a partially loaded revolver, You say you only like the relationship because they're both black and prominent and by that logic show's there's no room for a black relationship in comic's at all. Everything you mentioned comes back to writing and just overall execution of the concept at hand and i doubt really you're that needy or desperate for "black love" in media like you claim if that's all you got out that pairing. It's actually pretty said really but as a Black male myself i don't expect nothing from American media.
[QUOTE=OopsIdiditagain;5214621]I'd rather marvel make a new black love interest for Storm than try to revive T'challa/Storm. They're just too much melodrama and have crossed each others lines too many times.[/QUOTE]
In storms case that's highly unlikely
[QUOTE=Mekk80s;5214624]Your whole summary really comes down to writing and overall execution chief. "Black love" in modern american media mainly comic's is practically non existent and if you're looking for something like that then well you'd be better off playing roulette with a partially loaded revolver, You say you only like the relationship because they're both black and prominent and by that logic show's there's no room for a black relationship in comic's at all. Everything you mentioned comes back to writing and just overall execution of the concept at hand and[B] i doubt really you're that needy or desperate for "black love" in media like you claim [/B]if that's all you got out that pairing. It's actually pretty said really but as a Black male myself i don't expect nothing from American media.[/QUOTE]
Of course it comes down to writing... Everything does.
I just think this pairing has always been lacking and I've overlooked it for a long time because they're both black. I don't how my realization of this suddenly means that there is no room for any black relationships in comics. Quite a huge leap there...
Also, get over yourself with the bold, seriously. I don't need a stranger trying to interpret my thoughts based on a single post.
[QUOTE=Crimz;5214627]Of course it comes down to writing... Everything does.
I just think this pairing has always been lacking and I've overlooked it for a long time because they're both black. I don't how my realization of this suddenly means that there is no room for any black relationships in comics. Quite a huge leap there...
Also, get over yourself with the bold, seriously. I don't need a stranger trying to interpret my thoughts based on a single post.[/QUOTE]
I didn't realize that's how bold lettering works on this website, that's the first time I've done that here. No need to get frisky bruv i'm just telling you the reality of the situation, if you didn't like the relationship no one's gonna shame you for said thoughts to me it's subjective talking point anyway cause almost everyone has different views on the subject matter. It's not about your realization because i've always thought that, be honest with yourself though the black love concept in American comic's is honestly non existent and i said what i said for a reason as i don't expect these companies to go out of they're way to do all that stuff in the first place. I mean, don't know how to word that any less stingy so oh well.
[QUOTE=Mekk80s;5214637]I didn't realize that's how bold lettering works on this website, that's the first time I've done that here. No need to get frisky bruv i'm just telling you the reality of the situation, if you didn't like the relationship no one's gonna shame you for said thoughts to me it's subjective talking point anyway cause almost everyone has different views on the subject matter. It's not about your realization because i've always thought that, be honest with yourself though the black love concept in American comic's is honestly non existent and i said what i said for a reason as i don't expect these companies to go out of they're way to do all that stuff in the first place. I mean, don't know how to word that any less stingy so oh well.[/QUOTE]
Serious question I'm a black american and I really don't get what this black love is suppose to be. I grew up with both my parents my mother is black and was born in anericanh father was from Jamaica they were married my whole life and have had ups and downs but always had each other back. My father would not have sat down if a man told him to if his wife was leaving upset. I never saw my father tell my mother to be less than. And if we spoke against him or her the other was ready to swoop in with righteous justice and there were 6 I'd us before he sent for his first three children from his relationship back home and brought them all here and bought a house for us to live in. Then when he got suck with diabetics and oarkiskn, I had an older dad she still stuck by him to me I saw love love never once did it cross my mind it was black love. I feel that's a desperate media invention by some black people to keep our women from exploring good men instead if just black men. Jmo though
[QUOTE=jwatson;5214659]Serious question I'm a black american and I really don't get what this black love is suppose to be. I grew up with both my parents my mother is black and was born in anericanh father was from Jamaica they were married my whole life and have had ups and downs but always had each other back. My father would not have sat down if a man told him to if his wife was leaving upset. I never saw my father tell my mother to be less than. And if we spoke against him or her the other was ready to swoop in with righteous justice and there were 6 I'd us before he sent for his first three children from his relationship back home and brought them all here and bought a house for us to live in. Then when he got suck with diabetics and oarkiskn, I had an older dad she still stuck by him to me I saw love love never once did it cross my mind it was black love. I feel that's a desperate media invention by some black people to keep our women from exploring good men instead if just black men. Jmo though[/QUOTE]
It's not something complex to think about so i'll explain the best i can. In terms of the romance angle is the feelings "black" people have toward one another basically that supersedes your typical "love is love" concept because it's the showing of 2 people from a marginalized race in America that showcases a form of unity and positivity amongst bedlam and chaos which is something pretty important in the world we live in today especially if you have an understanding of "black" peoples history as State American's.
[QUOTE=OopsIdiditagain;5214621]I'd rather marvel make a new black love interest for Storm than try to revive T'challa/Storm. They're just too much melodrama and have crossed each others lines too many times.[/QUOTE]
Unlike a good deal of normal couples, huh?
Storm may have been born in America but she's lived all of her formative years as an African.
T'Challa is an African King.
So...your definition Mekk80s...is it that their relationship has been co-opted to represent something that's not truly indicative of it?
Black American is not Black African.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5214717]Storm may have been born in America but she's lived all of her formative years as an African.
T'Challa is an African King.
So...your definition Mekk80s...is it that their relationship has been co-opted to represent something that's not truly indicative of it?
Black American is not Black African.[/QUOTE]
My "definition" isn't definitive if anything i was giving an example, so unless you can give a better example I ain't trynna hear nothin. I never said "black American" is "black African" yeah no sh!t, Jwatson asked a question and i answered the best of my ability.
Why is this such a hard concept for some to understand lol? Black love is just love between two (or more if you wanna be really inclusive lol) black people. It means a lot in modern nerd culture, especially sci-fantasy fiction, because it’s not all that common to see two black people involved with each other in a consistent, positive relationship. Most major black superheroes are primarily involved with non-black lovers and obviously there’s nothing wrong with that, but the vast majority of black folks (male and female) are involved with partners of their own race so it’s no surprise some black folks who consume comics or any kind of sci-fantasy would like to see more black-black romances.
Like with anything involving black people, black love is not a monolith. Some fictional black romances are loving and completely healthy, others are wrought with tension and misunderstanding, while for many it’s a spur of the moment thing. Love is always different for everyone and black love is no different, the unifying factor is that the people involved are exclusively black. The longing romance between Blue Marvel and Spectrum is as much black love as the tumultuous black love between Bronze Tiger and Vixen. That’s why for many BP-Storm had a special place in their hearts, because it was black love with the addition of the whole power couple dynamic.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5214835]Why is this such a hard concept for some to understand lol? Black love is just love between two (or more if you wanna be really inclusive lol) black people. It means a lot in modern nerd culture, especially sci-fantasy fiction, because it’s not all that common to see two black people involved with each other in a consistent, positive relationship. Most major black superheroes are primarily involved with non-black lovers and obviously there’s nothing wrong with that, but the vast majority of black folks (male and female) are involved with partners of their own race so it’s no surprise some black folks who consume comics or any kind of sci-fantasy would like to see more black-black romances.
Like with anything involving black people, black love is not a monolith. Some fictional black romances are loving and completely healthy, others are wrought with tension and misunderstanding, while for many it’s a spur of the moment thing. Love is always different for everyone and black love is no different, the unifying factor is that the people involved are exclusively black. The longing romance between Blue Marvel and Spectrum is as much black love as the tumultuous black love between Bronze Tiger and Vixen. That’s why for many BP-Storm had a special place in their hearts, because it was black love with the addition of the whole power couple dynamic.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]:cool:;):) Bravo.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=chief12d;5214835]Why is this such a hard concept for some to understand lol? Black love is just love between two (or more if you wanna be really inclusive lol) black people. It means a lot in modern nerd culture, especially sci-fantasy fiction, because it’s not all that common to see two black people involved with each other in a consistent, positive relationship. Most major black superheroes are primarily involved with non-black lovers and obviously there’s nothing wrong with that, but the vast majority of black folks (male and female) are involved with partners of their own race so it’s no surprise some black folks who consume comics or any kind of sci-fantasy would like to see more black-black romances.
Like with anything involving black people, black love is not a monolith. Some fictional black romances are loving and completely healthy, others are wrought with tension and misunderstanding, while for many it’s a spur of the moment thing. Love is always different for everyone and black love is no different, the unifying factor is that the people involved are exclusively black. The longing romance between Blue Marvel and Spectrum is as much black love as the tumultuous black love between Bronze Tiger and Vixen. That’s why for many BP-Storm had a special place in their hearts, because it was black love with the addition of the whole power couple dynamic.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, now this i understand. It's love between exclusively black people. That i get. Most times people mention it they act like it's some deep thing or has some sort of direct context of expected behavior outside of two black people in a loving relationship however that is portrayed. I can see people want to see that, for me, i lived it so i never really gave it much thought.
This concept of Black Love as explained by Chief is perfectly understandable. If we look to the idealised, romaticised, potential of that love as exemplified (and marketed) in this instance of two Black People of Royal lineage coming together. A lovely vision but, as is with LOVE in general, not perfect.
A pity, the writers tended focus on the not so perfect elements.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5214895]Thank you, now this i understand. It's love between exclusively black people. That i get. Most times people mention it they act like it's some deep thing or has some sort of direct context of expected behavior outside of two black people in a loving relationship however that is portrayed. I can see people want to see that, for me, i lived it so i never really gave it much thought.[/QUOTE]
Yea, I agree that some people fetishize black love to an unnecessary degree and that we need to understand that black love does not and should not mean that all the characters involved have to offer is their romance. Black love is just one of many aspects that I feel should flesh out a character. It's honestly not different for those who want queer relationships or those that want to see more interracial relationships.
People like to see experiences in the media they consume that reflect what they've seen and lived themselves. Like you, I saw black love growing up through my own parents. Mom is black American and dad is Sierra Leonean/Nigerian. I've also lived black love myself and am currently living it, so I think I approached my appreciation for it differently.
I saw that despite seeing black love all my life it was hard to find in a lot of the major franchises I was watching/reading. That's how the whole idea of black love became part of the lexicon of black fans, it's a reaction to the lack of it in comics and sci-fantasy at large. Which is why I always encourage those who want to see more black love (or just positive representation of black folks period) to explore other mediums and search for writers (black or otherwise) that incorporate it in their works.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5214913]This concept of Black Love as explained by Chief is perfectly understandable. If we look to the idealised, romaticised, potential of that love as exemplified (and marketed) in this instance of two Black People of Royal lineage coming together. A lovely vision but, as is with LOVE in general, not perfect.
A pity, the writers tended focus on the not so perfect elements.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, the appeal of BP-Storm to black fans and casuals becomes immediately understandable if you consider the romanticized potential of their union in the comic landscape. A black power couple, one that had a Romeo and Juliet star-crossed lovers quality that black fans rarely get to experience.
Marvel knew what they were doing when they put them together. All the elements were there to make it a top-tier couple but it wasn't meant to be, unfortunately. But the great thing about comics is that things can change, so while T'Challa may not be the black man for Storm who's to say Death (who I think we can comfortably say is a black man) can't? Black love, like any love, is partially about accepting it doesn't always work out.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5214480]A little to muscular for my taste but I can actually she her playing Joanna "Frenzy" Cargill...pun intended.[/QUOTE]
But Storm was actually built like this when she wore the costume
[QUOTE=Sdawg;5214326]Lol what is it? And where does it come from? LOL[/QUOTE]
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[I]"X-Termination #2 cover by Mike Deodato and Rain Beredo
The Jean Grey from the Age of Apocalypse had a strange life. Married to Weapon X and genetic mother to Nate Grey, she becomes Phoenix, but later loses her powers. During the X-Termination event, the Nightcrawler of her world rips a hole between the Age of Apocalypse and Earth-616, threatening the entire multiverse. Jean takes the power of the Apocalypse Seed to fight the inter-dimensional monsters attacking her world, gaining not only Apocalypse’s power but also his blue and grey makeup palette. She takes the transformation surprisingly well given her previous experience with ultra-destructive cosmic power, noting, “Other than feeling intensely arrogant, I’m pretty much me."[/I]
The more I think on it the more I can see Storm with Death...if they actually go in that direction for her character.
Maybe not as an outright relationship at first but as a romantic interest that could eventually become something serious and lasting. I think it's time that Storm has a significant upgrade, not necessarily in power, but status and certainly influence.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5215130]But Storm was actually built like this when she wore the costume[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen Storm that ripped unless she was depicted by Julie Bell or Boris Vallejo (who are bodybuilding enthusiasts so use that body type as a template for a heroic physique)
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5215152]The more I think on it the more I can see Storm with Death...if they actually go in that direction for her character.
Maybe not as an outright relationship at first but as a romantic interest that could eventually become something serious and lasting. I think it's time that Storm has a significant upgrade, not necessarily in power, but status and certainly influence.[/QUOTE]
I think with Death it all comes down to just how evil they want to make the Horsemen. It seems like they committed genocide of the people of Dryador so at first look he seems pretty irredeemable. But who knows what layers can be added to their characters during this event and in the future.
I don't think Marvel would let all the Arakkii we've been introduced to be permanently killed off so like you said maybe there's some attraction there but he still gets defeated/banished to Amenth by Storm. Then he returns with a change of heart/redemption story like Apocalypse and becomes her lover, there've been more contrived romances. It's certainly the kinda of quasi-mystical upgrade she'd benefit from and if that gives her some status on Arrako then that's a plus too. Death brings a lot to the table tbh.
Exactatiously.
I don't see them as out-right evil, just guided ad shaped by their circumstance and their world. Who knows....Genesis might be a better person, without the Annihilation Mask.
[QUOTE=chief12d;5215198]I think with Death it all comes down to just how evil they want to make the Horsemen. It seems like they committed genocide of the people of Dryador so at first look he seems pretty irredeemable. But who knows what layers can be added to their characters during this event and in the future.
I don't think Marvel would let all the Arakkii we've been introduced to be permanently killed off so like you said maybe there's some attraction there but he still gets defeated/banished to Amenth by Storm. Then he returns with a change of heart/redemption story like Apocalypse and becomes her lover, there've been more contrived romances. It's certainly the kinda of quasi-mystical upgrade she'd benefit from and if that gives her some status on Arrako then that's a plus too. Death brings a lot to the table tbh.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I agree, I don't think that Death is coming across as evil, probably the rest of Arrako aren't either. If they were, they would probably just attack instead of waiting for a tournament. We could have a situation where we see mutants from Krakoa trading places with some of the Arakko denizens.
I'm certain that some of them will end up living on Krakoa. [/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5215212]Exactatiously.
I don't see them as out-right evil, just guided ad shaped by their circumstance and their world. Who knows....Genesis might be a better person, without the Annihilation Mask.[/QUOTE]
They're certainly acting the way you'd expect warriors who've been fighting for thousands of years to act. But genocide is genocide and I imagine Hickman will add context to their actions to give them some kind of humanity, or simply handwave their atrocities. Though I agree most of the Swordbearers likely aren't outright evil, just victims of rough lives who reproduce the violence that shaped them. Those are traits they can unlearn and if Marvel does plan on pushing a Storm-Death romance I think there's room for that to happen.
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5215226][COLOR="#000080"]I agree, I don't think that Death is coming across as evil, probably the rest of Arrako aren't either. If they were, they would probably just attack instead of waiting for a tournament. We could have a situation where we see mutants from Krakoa trading places with some of the Arakko denizens.
I'm certain that some of them will end up living on Krakoa. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
They certainly come across as brutal warriors, so their sense of morality is entirely different from a regular person's lol. The Arakkii are driven by the same core value of reunification that the Krakoans are so I think we'll see that while their methods are tough, at least some have the right intentions. Death could be one of those well-intentioned warriors who's not interested in the plunder and just wants to do right by mutantkind, his mother, and his own beliefs. I think you're right about trading places, maybe Death joins Storm on Krakoa or she joins him on Arrakko?
Storm #Cosplay by Jade Cargill
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[QUOTE=Agent Z;5216050]Storm #Cosplay by Jade Cargill
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Wow. The costume is a hot mess but that is like an off the pages comic superheroine stature. Amazing. Very feminine and still strong. She would make a perfect Nubia to Gal's Wonder Woman..
[QUOTE=jwatson;5214659]Serious question I'm a black american and I really don't get what this black love is suppose to be. I grew up with both my parents my mother is black and was born in anericanh father was from Jamaica they were married my whole life and have had ups and downs but always had each other back. My father would not have sat down if a man told him to if his wife was leaving upset. I never saw my father tell my mother to be less than. And if we spoke against him or her the other was ready to swoop in with righteous justice and there were 6 I'd us before he sent for his first three children from his relationship back home and brought them all here and bought a house for us to live in. Then when he got suck with diabetics and oarkiskn, I had an older dad she still stuck by him to me I saw love love never once did it cross my mind it was black love. I feel that's a desperate media invention by some black people to keep our women from exploring good men instead if just black men. Jmo though[/QUOTE]
lol
I think it's just the desire to have a non-struggle black love story since most Black romances in the media aren't healthy. It seems shallow but there's still a narrative that black people don't have stability in relationships in media sometimes(baby mamas, cheaters).
Honestly, media has no effect on Black women "exploring good men", it's just an American/cultural thing where interracial relationships are seen as a big deal. Places where it's not seen as a big deal, people aren't "kept away from exploring".
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5214717]Storm may have been born in America but she's lived all of her formative years as an African.
T'Challa is an African King.
So...your definition Mekk80s...is it that their relationship has been co-opted to represent something that's not truly indicative of it?
Black American is not Black African.[/QUOTE]
Storm's dad is African American