There is no worst costume they are all wonderfully awful except for the black and blue. That’s what makes them great lol.
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There is no worst costume they are all wonderfully awful except for the black and blue. That’s what makes them great lol.
I used to hate the disco fit but it grew on me, it has it's own charm.
[QUOTE=Digifiend;4990892]Just bear in mind, it's no longer canon due to New Teen Titans (where he originally became Nightwing) being returned to continuity.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up but i'm no longer concerned about whats canon now when it comes to DC, I get less headaches that way.
I'm curious to do you guys think that Dick will ever get his own movie? Also, do you think the animation movies will stop hating on Dick? I mean in terms of fighting skills how Good is Dick? Is he up there with Taila or Bruce?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4991397]I'm curious to do you guys think that Dick will ever get his own movie? Also, do you think the animation movies will stop hating on Dick? I mean in terms of fighting skills how Good is Dick? Is he up there with Taila or Bruce?[/QUOTE]
Fingers crossed that since the "New 52" run of animated movies is over, Dick will have better showings moving forward. Unless the whole Ric thing happens. Then we're f*cked. I don't think a Nightwing film is out of the realm of possibility either, but I could totally see him doing well in a DaredevilNetflix type show too.
[QUOTE=9th.;4990416]Anybody know where this is from? It's hilarious
[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/83/03/338303b87691d6cb0be28c13da4fe878.png[/img][/QUOTE]
God! I love Dick Grayson. Just look at this for a crime fighting costume. I don't think when coming up with this Dick even considered the fighting part. He was just thinking flair and the costume part. Lol
Bruce's reaction is hilarious.
I don't recall the flying Graysons ever having so many tassles.
And that cloth/scarf tied around his waist. It's awful. I love it.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4991397]I'm curious to do you guys think that Dick will ever get his own movie? Also, do you think the animation movies will stop hating on Dick? I mean in terms of fighting skills how Good is Dick? Is he up there with Taila or Bruce?[/QUOTE]Do I believe nightwing will ever get his own solo movie! No, or at least not anytime soon. Mainly for two reasons. 1. A nightwing movie would be to similar to batman in Gotham and 2. Almost all of nightwing's " things" like love interest comes from or belong to batman. So WB will just go with a batman movie with nightwing maybe as a supporting character like the in the animated movies.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4991110]For all of you what's the worst Nightwing costume? I mean if Zatanna and Dick were a couple. Maybe Zatanna and Dick meet at Haley's Cirus?[/QUOTE]
Dick and zatanna starting a family business! :o so much potential so beautiful:o
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4991397]I'm curious to do you guys think that Dick will ever get his own movie? Also, do you think the animation movies will stop hating on Dick? I mean in terms of fighting skills how Good is Dick? Is he up there with Taila or Bruce?[/QUOTE]
Definitely better than Talia. Talia's skill is in the middle to low range for the Bat-family.
Tom King considers him better than Bruce by a combination of being an acrobat prodigy and a lifetime of training from Batman. Logically I do think he should be better than Bruce for that reason and the fact that he's in his prime while Bruce is getting older (there's a comic panel where Bruce says he's not as fast as he first started in his 20s but I forget which and Dick is one of the faster Bat-family member).
He's in a Top Ten Best DCU Fighter in a youtube video whose name I forget but provides a reasonable reason for every inclusion. The list includes Bruce, Cassandra, Shiva, Richard Dragon, Karate Kid, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, among others, and he's on the lower range.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4991397]I'm curious to do you guys think that Dick will ever get his own movie? Also, do you think the animation movies will stop hating on Dick? I mean in terms of fighting skills how Good is Dick? Is he up there with Taila or Bruce?[/QUOTE]
There was a Nightwing movie plan before the DCEU failed. There was also a Nightwing animated series pitch that was replaced by Young Justice. Titans also had to fight to include Dick Grayson because WB was doing their embargo like Batman. So we can conclude WB has plans for Nightwing. He is also insanely popular. There was a Twitter poll of favorite DC character and Nightwing was 1st place. He beat the Trinity, notably Batman. Which is crazy if you imagine Dick has no solo movie or series. He is also consistently top 3 DC favorite character here in CBR. Only below Bat and Supes. So comic nerds like him even if his comics are *ahem* not that good. I think there's potential in the character DC has rarely explored.
Talia is not near Dick's fighting skills honestly. Dick along with Batman and Cass are the three best fighters in the Bat family. He is the most skilled and well rounded Robin as proven multiple times. Arguably in the top 5 best DC fighters but certainly in the top 10. Will the animated movies show this and stop nerfing him? I don't think so as long he is a supporting character in a Batman movie. If Nightwing is the one beating the villain, it isn't really a Batman movie.
Fun fact: Nightwing is a great seducer and in canon a great lover. His seduction skills go beyond the pages of comic books. He has a large female and gay following. I read somewhere writing Nightwing was chick magnet due to his fans.
[QUOTE=qwazer07;4991974]There was a Nightwing movie plan before the DCEU failed. There was also a Nightwing animated series pitch that was replaced by Young Justice. Titans also had to fight to include Dick Grayson because WB was doing their embargo like Batman. So we can conclude WB has plans for Nightwing. He is also insanely popular. There was a Twitter poll of favorite DC character and Nightwing was 1st place. He beat the Trinity, notably Batman. Which is crazy if you imagine Dick has no solo movie or series. He is also consistently top 3 DC favorite character here in CBR. Only below Bat and Supes. So comic nerds like him even if his comics are *ahem* not that good. I think there's potential in the character DC has rarely explored.
Talia is not near Dick's fighting skills honestly. Dick along with Batman and Cass are the three best fighters in the Bat family. He is the most skilled and well rounded Robin as proven multiple times. Arguably in the top 5 best DC fighters but certainly in the top 10. Will the animated movies show this and stop nerfing him? I don't think so as long he is a supporting character in a Batman movie. If Nightwing is the one beating the villain, it isn't really a Batman movie.
Fun fact: Nightwing is a great seducer and in canon a great lover. His seduction skills go beyond the pages of comic books. He has a large female and gay following. I read somewhere writing Nightwing was chick magnet due to his fans.[/QUOTE]
I feel like the last ten years has done all it can to destroy the rep he had as a martial artist by consistently making him Batman’s dragon, before you get to Bruce you have to go through him and thus from deathstroke to Harley Quinn has been knocking him out
[QUOTE=Rac7d*;4991984]I feel like the last ten years has done all it can to destroy the rep he had as a martial artist by consistently making him Batman’s dragon, before you get to Bruce you have to go through him and thus from deathstroke to Harley Quinn has been knocking him out[/QUOTE]
Yeah. He is replacement for Robin now. If they need a comic relief. He had better showings when he didn't appear in every Batman movie a decade before. Also, Harley is Trinity level. Deathstroke is no match for her. LOL
I don't know. I feel that maybe if we want Dick to grow maybe he should be cut off more from the Batfam. Not complete rather if there are crossovers he isn't there has often depending what's going on in his own book. I also feel maybe he should be both Titans and JL member it would give him more story options. I'm curious with DC they have said a few times Wonder Woman is the best fighter. This is why I kinda hate list. But I would still put Dick on the best fighters list
[QUOTE=WonderNight;4991560]Dick and zatanna starting a family business! :o so much potential so beautiful:o[/QUOTE]
Really? What would be your ideas? I mean since Zatanna is dealing with magical things in nature it would give something new.
[QUOTE=qwazer07;4991974] Which is crazy if you imagine Dick has no solo movie or series. [/QUOTE]He is the lead in Titans and Young Justice, that probably prevents any solo projects, since they usually don't want several incantaions of the same character around (and maybe they also can't due to rights).
I guess for movies, if they want to continue the DCEU they have to first sort out what they want to do with Batman.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4991855]Logically I do think he should be better than Bruce for that reason and the fact that he's in his prime while Bruce is getting older.[/QUOTE]After the Dionesium in Endgame Batman should be back in peak condition.
Okay if we ever got a solo Nightwing movie. Who would you pick to play Dick Grayson? The question is should we get a robin movie first? Or a flashback
[QUOTE=Aahz;4992372]After the Dionesium in Endgame Batman should be back in peak condition.[/QUOTE]
Ugghhghgh. Yeah. Sure. They should've mentioned it de-age him as well. We know they're keeping him so at least that can be an explanation on why there are 20+years of Robin and he's still 30s.
How age is Dick?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4992804]How age is Dick?[/QUOTE]
Very difficult to be certain, as there are many inconsistent references. However, there are a few basic points that have never IIRC been [I]specifically[/I] contradicted:
He's 10-20 years [I]younger[/I] than Bruce (based on the later being ~25 at debut and Dick being 8-12).
He's younger than Barbara, who is younger than Bruce (little consistent detail beyond this).
He's less than 9 years older than Tim (A flashback showed a ~3yo Tim as being present for the death of the Flying Graysons).
Jason sits somewhere between Dick and Tim ageing wise, but for various reasons is hard to lock down.
So if Bruce is say... 50... which is old, but there's enough material to justify it then Dick is between 30 and 40 and Tim should be 20-30.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4992504]Okay if we ever got a solo Nightwing movie. Who would you pick to play Dick Grayson? The question is should we get a robin movie first? Or a flashback[/QUOTE]
What about a trilogy? Like first movie is him as Robin, second movie is him as Nightwing, and then third movie is him as Batman. The amount of Dick as Batman scene on Batman : Bad Blood is definitely not enough to satisfy my love for Dickbats
Or if the time is not enough for movie, they can make a series about Dick since he became Robin until he became Batman. For that maybe they can make Bruce died for good.
[QUOTE=Shamrock Holmes;4992974]He's 10-20 years [I]younger[/I] than Bruce (based on the later being ~25 at debut and Dick being 8-12).[/QUOTE]
If the timeline should make any sense you basically have to go with 12, which would make him 13-15 years younger than Bruce.
[QUOTE=Shamrock Holmes;4992974]Jason sits somewhere between Dick and Tim ageing wise, but for various reasons is hard to lock down.[/QUOTE]
If you go by pre Flashpoint/ pre crisis Jason would be roughly 7 years younger than Dick, and not much older than Tim.
And for anything else to work, Jason had to either much older when he became Robin than Tim and Dick or Dick would have to already become Nightwing in his mid teens.
That's btw. also a point where the Young Justice TV Show screwed up, they had allready Tim as Robin when Dick was roughly 18, with Jason in between.
I doubt we're getting a Nightwing movie any time in the foreseeable future. DC can barely get a movie featuring their major, A-list heroes off the ground, what hope does Dick have? I think we're more likely to get a Nightwing spin-off from the Titans show than we are a movie, and didn't they say they weren't doing any spin-offs from Titans?
But *if* it were to somehow happen? In a perfect world I'd like to see Dick introduced in a Batman film as Robin, and use that to launch and hype up a Nightwing solo film. I think it'd be better to firmly establish Dick as a Robin so he can use the Bat fame to his advantage when he goes solo.
[QUOTE=Light of Justice;4993018]What about a trilogy? Like first movie is him as Robin, second movie is him as Nightwing, and then third movie is him as Batman. The amount of Dick as Batman scene on Batman : Bad Blood is definitely not enough to satisfy my love for Dickbats
Or if the time is not enough for movie, they can make a series about Dick since he became Robin until he became Batman. For that maybe they can make Bruce died for good.[/QUOTE]
Sounds Good. If they don't have Dick has Batman I'm fine with that. They could have the third movie be Dick getting the Titans made
Kind of a weird tangent, as I had this dream last night where I was watching a new Batman cartoon by Dini & Timm where Batman was like, off the deep end and strangling villains in their cells in Arkham. (The plot had elements of '66 camp ... I mean he was disguised as a Bat-Mummy. I think? it made logical sense?)
But Nightwing was in it wearing a costume that had both Blue AND Red on it. And it looked really good.
[QUOTE=K. Jones;4993429]Kind of a weird tangent, as I had this dream last night where I was watching a new Batman cartoon by Dini & Timm where Batman was like, off the deep end and strangling villains in their cells in Arkham. (The plot had elements of '66 camp ... I mean he was disguised as a Bat-Mummy. I think? it made logical sense?)
But Nightwing was in it wearing a costume that had both Blue AND Red on it. And it looked really good.[/QUOTE]
What parts were Blue and what parts were red?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4992804]How age is Dick?[/QUOTE]
Bronze Age Bruce 28 Babs 25 Talia 19 Dick 18
New 52 Bruce 31 Clark 25 Diana+Selina 23 Babs 21 Dick 21 Tim 16 Damian 10
If we give Haley's Circus to Dick the only question is this. How does Dick get information to fight crime? I mean Bruce has Gordon. Who does Dick have? This is why in a sense I do think maybe Zatanna or someone else in the Circus can help him
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4993996]If we give Haley's Circus to Dick the only question is this. How does Dick get information to fight crime? I mean Bruce has Gordon. Who does Dick have? This is why in a sense I do think maybe Zatanna or someone else in the Circus can help him[/QUOTE]
Barbra Gordon?
Stay safe everybody. It's getting crazy out there. The times we live in need more love than hate.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4993996]If we give Haley's Circus to Dick the only question is this. How does Dick get information to fight crime? I mean Bruce has Gordon. Who does Dick have? This is why in a sense I do think maybe Zatanna or someone else in the Circus can help him[/QUOTE]
Well, we can't "give" Haly's to Dick because it's already his, as far as IP concepts/content go.
As for how he gets info? Dick's probably the most well connected man in comics. Where *can't* he get info? He can do his own investigations, get info from the army of Titans and former Titans who likely have Dick's name on speed dial, get info from other Bats.....it's really not a problem. Hell if you want to lowball it just have him use a police scanner and go on regular patrols like most heroes.
But if you think Dick needs a "guy in the chair" then grab any of the highly tech capable ex-Titans nobody is doing anything with. Or have Dick install a "Oracle program" on his computer. Dick getting intel is one of the easier problems to solve, honestly.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4993996]If we give Haley's Circus to Dick the only question is this. How does Dick get information to fight crime? I mean Bruce has Gordon. Who does Dick have? This is why in a sense I do think maybe Zatanna or someone else in the Circus can help him[/QUOTE]
His Gordon is either Rossbach or Svoboda in the BPD
Then there's Oracle in the Bat fam
Tiger at Spyral is more like his old friend that he calls from time to time but doesn't call back
Normally though he just starts patrolling and finds something since he likes to stay near vulnerable areas
True. True that's all said and good. If we were to go with the Court of Owls holding on to Haley's Circus. How does Dick clean that up that could be a somewhat decent storyline.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4994502]True. True that's all said and good. If we were to go with the Court of Owls holding on to Haley's Circus. How does Dick clean that up that could be a somewhat decent storyline.[/QUOTE]
He could use it as a place to develop and train people with special talent kind of like the COO did with the recruits to develop heroes or vigilantes by night. Circus performers by day.
[QUOTE=OWL45;4994633]He could use it as a place to develop and train people with special talent kind of like the COO did with the recruits to develop heroes or vigilantes by night. Circus performers by day.[/QUOTE]
Try he did that with YJ. Using it has a way to find young heroes. Runaway children that need help can easily work. He could also have the TItans involved. Especially if they are superpowered powered. Didn't Dick mentor Rose Wilson? Maybe that can be the first one?
[QUOTE=OWL45;4994633]He could use it as a place to develop and train people with special talent kind of like the COO did with the recruits to develop heroes or vigilantes by night. Circus performers by day.[/QUOTE]
Thats actually not bad. Nightwing and The Owls.
[QUOTE=Godlike13;4994934]Thats actually not bad. Nightwing and The Owls.[/QUOTE]
What about The Flock
That works too. The first thing that popped to my head was Nightwing finds a collection of sleeping Talons and tries to save them using Haley’s and turning it into refuge for them now. Them all being Circus family so to speak. Jurgan’s made Cobb into some mustash twirling villain as if he was Court management, but if he actually bothered to do proper research Talons were actually just tools warped and turned to monsters by the Court.
That's really good. And if they are okay then they can help Dick once they truth him. Giving him any information they have. Also the talons young or old? For me since Dick has always been good with young kids and teens maybe they can be mixed ages.
If I remember right, the Talons operate on a regular basis until they're edging out of their primes, probably mid-late 20's or so. Then they get frozen to ensure they don't age out of being useful, and are thawed out only when they have a mission. Then it's back to the ice.
Basically just like what was done to the Winter Soldier, if I remember right. Old enough to be both experienced and still at their physical peak, and kept on ice so they stay there.
So if Dick found a bunch of frozen Talons, they'd probably be around his age or older. But it's been a long time since I read that stuff so I could be remembering wrong.
Maybe to expand they can have children too. They were going to do it to Diamain.