Did Dick get a redesign in Death Metal? Pointy eagle instead of beaked, slightly different gloves, etc.
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Did Dick get a redesign in Death Metal? Pointy eagle instead of beaked, slightly different gloves, etc.
The user wafflecopter13 on reddit made a bunch of redesigns for that Batman #99 variant cover by Jorge Jimenez. Check out the other ones here!
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/iqzltz/fan_art_i_edited_jorge_jimenezs_nightwing_drawing/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Drako;5139347]The user wafflecopter13 on reddit made a bunch of redesigns for that Batman #99 variant cover by Jorge Jimenez. Check out the other ones here!
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/iqzltz/fan_art_i_edited_jorge_jimenezs_nightwing_drawing/[/url]
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/EWPu6gN.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
The circles around his arms look new? That's all I'm seeing.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5139356]The circles around his arms look new? That's all I'm seeing.[/QUOTE]
This one is just the pre-new 52 design, but he made others that are in the link.
Yeah, that new cover looks like it is basically setting up a relaunch. We've thought that for a while so it isn't a surprise, but I guess we don't really know if Dick will even keep his solo. It is the kind of cover that they tend to use for a final issue even if this isn't listed as one. The whole solicit was kind of generic and not really indicative of anything really. DC's continuity is such a mess that I don't really have any hope that it will make more sense after Death Metal, so I don't really know what to expect. Part of me wishes there would be another big reboot, but every new reboot tends to be worse and worse for Dick, so it probably wouldn't be the best.
Maybe with Mark Waid back at DC we will get him on Nightwing instead of a super book...hey, I know. But let me dream.
[QUOTE=Badou;5139519]Yeah, that new cover looks like it is basically setting up a relaunch. We've thought that for a while so it isn't a surprise, but I guess we don't really know if Dick will even keep his solo. It is the kind of cover that they tend to use for a final issue even if this isn't listed as one. The whole solicit was kind of generic and not really indicative of anything really. DC's continuity is such a mess that I don't really have any hope that it will make more sense after Death Metal, so I don't really know what to expect. Part of me wishes there would be another big reboot, but every new reboot tends to be worse and worse for Dick, so it probably wouldn't be the best.[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping we get some solid news this weekend at the fandome. I mean, at bare minimum I want to know whether he's even going to have a solo after the culling. I'd really like to know who the creators are if his book survives, and what the general direction/premise will be.
It's probably still too early for us to learn much of DC/AT&T's plans; the shakeups likely aren't settled enough for DC to have a ton they can talk about yet. But I mostly just want to know the book is safe, and not getting bottom of the barrel creators.
What's the point of a relaunch if they will just continue to do the same things they're doing now. When they relaunch will he not be in bludhaven, with the titans, will they won't they with babs or star, treated like a sidekick? But the relaunch isn't for nightwing so I get it.
On that same note, what is the point of bringing Dick back if they are just gonna have him do the same things as Ric under the same writer as Ric. Answer is there is none, they are just desperate and trying to do what they can with the little means they are willing to afford the character. Its the same reason Ric existed in the first place. The felt they had to do something, so they did, but couldn't afford to take the time to actually think it trough and actually execute it properly.
There's clearly some plans for the Titans in the works
Has there been any word on the book yet this fandome?
[QUOTE=Ascended;5140808]Has there been any word on the book yet this fandome?[/QUOTE]
Nah this fandome was pointless
So 2021 we get to try this again
Having Nightwing in animation, the comics and live action
Hopefully DC will let him be for a year
Has Tom king ever revealed if he would have brought dick grayson back before Batman 100 had he stayed on the title? Im surprised he didnt wrap up the Ric/Dick story before leaving or maybe he told Tynion when to and how he would have restored him.
[QUOTE=Avengers1986;5140997]Has Tom king ever revealed if he would have brought dick grayson back before Batman 100 had he stayed on the title? Im surprised he didnt wrap up the Ric/Dick story before leaving or maybe he told Tynion when to and how he would have restored him.[/QUOTE]
The only plan of Tom King for Dick was to shot him.
He doesn't have any plan or involvement about what to do with Dick after that.
Tom King was pretty fine with DC using Zatanna to cure Dick, since he doesn't need Dick anymore. He just needed Dick to be shot to affect Bruce.
It is DC who decided they want the shot to have consequences.
He wanted Dick back for City of Bane. Bone-headed move on his part to have a shock value moment without thinking out the consequences.
He screwed Percy but to be fair Ric shouldn't have been as bad as it actually turned out. It took a special kind of incompetency to have it turn out like it did. At worse it should have been a mediocre amnesia story. What they did though, and the creators they got to do it, they took it to another level of awful and lazy. Blatantly regurgitating recently failed ideas like We Are Robin, going to the lowest performing creators who don't generate and have a reputation for screwing up franchises (among other things), and letting it continue for two years despite its reception and its downward trend into new lows. I don't think anyone would have thought shooting him in the head would snowball into that.
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5141010]He wanted Dick back for City of Bane. Bone-headed move on his part to have a shock value moment without thinking out the consequences.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he mentioned wanting to use the Robins more in his run but not being allowed.
[QUOTE=Claude;5141249]Yeah, he mentioned wanting to use the Robins more in his run but not being allowed.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, But it might be a good thing or they could have gotten Shock Value bullets in the head too...
So, Jurgens is still on NIGHTWING?
Jurgens said he was going to do a couple of issues after #75, before leaving the book to a new creative team. Probably we will get a new writer in issue #78.
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5140544]There's clearly some plans for the Titans in the works[/QUOTE]
Tv show or comics wise?
I did a quick Google search but nothing jumped out at me for the latter. I could use some good news though.
[QUOTE=L.H.;5141616]Jurgens said he was going to do a couple of issues after #75, before leaving the book to a new creative team. Probably we will get a new writer in issue #78.[/QUOTE]
Man, they should just cancel the book and relaunch it in January with a new #1.
[QUOTE=Flash Gordon;5141638]Man, they should just cancel the book and relaunch it in January with a new #1.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that the general idea? I honestly don't know what DC is doing anymore lol
[QUOTE=SiegePerilous02;5141636]Tv show or comics wise?
I did a quick Google search but nothing jumped out at me for the latter. I could use some good news though.[/QUOTE]
With Dick, Starfire, and Cyborg taking center stage in Justice League, Donna and Gar popping up in Teen Titans, and the Tula Lotay variant with the New Teen Titans together on the Death Metal ties ins, it's certain that we're headed for a reunion
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5141663]With Dick, Starfire, and Cyborg taking center stage in Justice League, Donna and Gar popping up in Teen Titans, and the Tula Lotay variant with the New Teen Titans together on the Death Metal ties ins, it's certain that we're headed for a reunion[/QUOTE]
The titans are DCs X-men and need to be prioritized as such but the given that’s secondary team role to the suicide squad
Maybe what they need is Hickman to come over and do something after he finishes on X-Men.
I would pay $10 an issue for that
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5141663]With Dick, Starfire, and Cyborg taking center stage in Justice League, Donna and Gar popping up in Teen Titans, and the Tula Lotay variant with the New Teen Titans together on the Death Metal ties ins, it's certain that we're headed for a reunion[/QUOTE]
Good to know, thanks!
[QUOTE=Digifiend;5141825]Maybe what they need is Hickman to come over and do something after he finishes on X-Men.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5141838]I would pay $10 an issue for that[/QUOTE]
I'd be all for that. It would automatically be the best run on the title after NTT (and as it would be modern, would surpass that in many ways).
I mentioned a while back that that Alex Ross art made me wish for a 12 part [I]Justice[/I] style series for the NTT, and now I'm really bummed that I thought of that because it is very unlikely to happen:(
I kinda want a Nightwing/Flamebird miniseries with Dick and Bette
[QUOTE=L.H.;5141616]Jurgens said he was going to do a couple of issues after #75, before leaving the book to a new creative team. Probably we will get a new writer in issue #78.[/QUOTE]
I imagine Jurgens will stick around long enough to finish out the trade, rather than have new creators come in the middle of it.
I'm just waiting to hear who the new creators will be and what they'll be doing. After all the chaos at AT&T we might get stuck with another filler run before the new plan/direction goes into effect though.
And that's assuming Dick is enough of a priority to keep his book and actually *have* a plan put in place for him. I still maintain that AT&T would have to be dumb as rocks to not recognize Dick's potential and his already impressive larger media profile and want to capitalize on that, but you never know; DC does love to let me down.
Going back to my posts about how I wish Dick never gave up the Robin identity, I wonder if the Titans as a franchise would be better off if he never gave it up as well. Since DC constantly ages down the Titans characters to fit with whoever is the current Robin who is always stuck as a teenager. They did that with Tim and we more recently saw it with Damian too. I get they do that because Robin is the most iconic member of the team, so they try to fix everything around him, but had Dick kept the Robin identity and aged like he did with Nightwing I wonder if DC would have allowed the Titans to age more as well with him. Where they aren't constantly deaging Raven or Beast Boy, or constantly sticking characters like Starifire or now Donna on teams with teenagers. Maybe they could have made that jump into permanent adult team, but I don't know. Probably not. Since it doesn't fix the Justice League problem.
[QUOTE=Rac7d*;5141746]The titans are DCs X-men and need to be prioritized as such but the given that’s secondary team role to the suicide squad[/QUOTE]
Yeah, what's with that? Suicide Squad came out of nowhere to me. It's Teen Titans with NTT crew who got a popular cartoon and another cartoon that the network spam slots on. No one outside comics talks about Suicide Squad before Harley got into the team and even after that, it's often to bash the movie.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5142708]Yeah, what's with that? Suicide Squad came out of nowhere to me. It's Teen Titans with NTT crew who got a popular cartoon and another cartoon that the network spam slots on. No one outside comics talks about Suicide Squad before Harley got into the team and even after that, it's often to bash the movie.[/QUOTE]
yep. TT is vastly better than the SS
This may just be for the anniversary but they just made Dick's classic cape bulletproof
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5142790]This may just be for the anniversary but they just made Dick's classic cape bulletproof
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cool! i like it
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5142790]This may just be for the anniversary but they just made Dick's classic cape bulletproof
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Is that from DC #1027?
Yeah, it's from the preview for that issue.
I loved JL #53, while Batman #99 was underwhelming. Hope #100 will be better for Dick and the whole Batfam, I'm kinda tired of Harley.
Don’t expect much from Batman #99. In fact it’s insulting. Nightwing is not Batman’s to return to Dick. Nightwing’s return has been just nothing so far. They should have left him as Ric if this is all they could afford to do. I mean they dragged Ric on even longer for that. Ugh...
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5144102]Don’t expect much from Batman #99. In fact it’s insulting. Nightwing is not Batman’s to return to Dick. Nightwing’s return has been just nothing so far. They should have left him as Ric if this is all they could afford to do.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. As Robin or Batgirl, writers (and likely many fans) consider that Batman owns Nightwing identity too.
This is likely the worst case, since Nightwing identity wasn't created in Batman editorial.