Well... it's finally over! Two years of torment came to an end in a underwhelming way.
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Well... it's finally over! Two years of torment came to an end in a underwhelming way.
I agree, It was underwhelming. But it's over, and that's the only thing I care about. Now I'm waiting for the new creative team.
Adding up: that nightmare ended the same day Heroes in Crisis was retconned in Flash #761. I hope it's a good sign.
Shitty storyline with Ric is over, Heroes in Crisis (and not only, as far, as I understand) retcon. Nice day for DC and it's fans.
And, probably, bad day for DiDio)
[QUOTE=Drako;5133790]Well... it's finally over! Two years of torment came to an end in a underwhelming way.[/QUOTE]
Pretty fitting. But at the end of the day, it's OVER. We can finally move forward.
[QUOTE=Drako;5133790]Well... it's finally over! Two years of torment came to an end in a underwhelming way.[/QUOTE]
I'm okay with that. Just like I'm okay with HiC being retconned into "another convoluted Thawne plot". As long as those chapters in Dick and Wally's lives are over, I'm happy.
Now bring Roy back and reunite the Titans.
Looks like that's happening too, look at the cover for November's Teen Titans finale, an issue which guest stars the original Titans. There are silhouettes shown and one is an archer - that should be Arsenal.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5132402]They never pitch the Tim one, but the Harper case did go as far as character design, and I don't see her just picking that identity on her own, she never even met him up to that point, so it has to be Bruce's idea. With Tim, it makes sense if he wants to take it on his own if he's written as his Post-Crisis self but King likes to change stuff or make up his own story, so who knows.[/QUOTE]
Honestly,it was good they don't took neither of those roads.
I always thought Robin and Batgirl as sidekick positions that the young heroes leave behind when they grow up to take their personal mantles:Nightwing,Reed Hood,Oracle and so on.
For this reason i don't think those names should leave their original hero.
The only thing i don't like of Stephanie as Batgirl series is the idea of her somehow becoming Nightwing in the distant future (even if it's only implied)
Well, Dick is finally back and the issue overall.... Well, he's back.
Issue was beyond awful, utterly anticlimactic, and Jurgens yet again tries to cover the holes by treating readers as if they are stupid. Good thing Dick's back though so Jurgens can continue on doing what he's been doing LoL.
wish the issue had better art, but I imagine the big return issue is actually batman 99 anyways.
So Rick arc is over and let's hope this is the start of a new day
Oh but we get months more of Bea and Ric fallout still! Dick is going after KGBeast because Bruce already having gone after him, Barbara already having gone after him, and Damian already having gone after him in different stories wasn't enough. We get to see it a fourth time!
There is no hope for the book until they relaunch it with a new creative team, imo.
Finally it's over!
Very happy that they put Donna among Dick's memories.
This issue was exactly what I expected it to be: a whole bunch of nothingness. Though I foolishly hoped that at least the memory return would be better, sadly I actually prefer the #68 (or was it #69?) glimpse into dick's memories even if this one got a yay for Donna from me as well.
i want to be looking forward to the KGBeast arc but... eh. I'd rather like for it to be over entirely. This doesn't need a fallout. It just needs to be erased. Doesn't help that the Annual fell flat for me too, so I'm not at all positive that Jurgens knows how to write Dick. Thankfully I didn't read the other arcs of going after KGBeast but just hearing that the same stories has been told pretty much three times already, it's just another reason to not like where this is going.
[QUOTE=failo.legendkiller;5134997]Finally it's over!
Very happy that they put Donna among Dick's memories.[/QUOTE]
But not starfire
Because Dan doesn't like Dick. Starfire can't be important to Dick.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5135749]Because Dan doesn't like Dick. Starfire can't be important to Dick.[/QUOTE]
I could say the same for the Bat-Editorial in general.
At least Seeley seemed fine acknowledging the Titans and Kori as a significant ex.
I liked this. I only started reading about 7 issues ago, and can't imagine having whatever it seems was the story leading up to this dragging on for so long, but from my short time, the wrap up of the Talon/Haas stuff going into the Joker War tie in story was a pretty fun ride but from the sounds of it I am lucky to have that limited perspective on it lol
Starfire hasn't been that important to Dick in decades in the comics to be fair. So they are just being consistent. They were fine with giving her character to Jason at the start of the New 52 to fill out his relationships/connections more. She shouldn't even be aware of the Ric situation as she has been in space for all of it.
Yeah, she only finds out about that when they reunite in Justice League's Death Metal tie-in.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5135749]Because Dan doesn't like Dick. Starfire can't be important to Dick.[/QUOTE]
They literally have been on different world for the last two years
Their not in each other’s lives
[QUOTE=Rac7d*;5137007]They literally have been on different world for the last two years
Their not in each other’s lives[/QUOTE]
But they, in general, don't think she is important. I know Starfire isn't on Earth. It's just they don't think his time with the Titans are that important.
What do you guys think about the disco suit being cannon?
[QUOTE=Blue22;5133954]I'm okay with that. Just like I'm okay with HiC being retconned into "another convoluted Thawne plot". As long as those chapters in Dick and Wally's lives are over, I'm happy.
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Wait, what's that about Thawne and Wally? Details, please!
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5137173]Wait, what's that about Thawne and Wally? Details, please![/QUOTE]
From Flash #761
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Dick and Duke team up in Tales from the Dark Multiverse: Dark Nights Metal.
[url]https://www.gamesradar.com/dc-events-crisis-on-infinite-earths-and-more-get-infected-by-the-dark-multiverse-in-december/[/url]
There's also a Crisis on Infinite Earths one, in which Earth-2, not Earth-1, became the dominant Earth - which I guess means Earth-2 Robin survives and not Nightwing. He won't be a main character in that one though, it seems to focus on Kal-L and the JSA.
[QUOTE=L.H.;5137362]From Flash #761
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This looks really (speed) forced (lol) but ah well... stupid decisions deserve a stupid retcon
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5137810]This looks really (speed) forced (lol) but ah well... [B]stupid decisions deserve a stupid retcon[/B][/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more.
[QUOTE=cranger;5136378]I liked this. I only started reading about 7 issues ago, and can't imagine having whatever it seems was the story leading up to this dragging on for so long, but from my short time, the wrap up of the Talon/Haas stuff going into the Joker War tie in story was a pretty fun ride but from the sounds of it I am lucky to have that limited perspective on it lol[/QUOTE]
I haven't read it. Ric is too much for me. R I C
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5137810]This looks really (speed) forced (lol) but ah well... stupid decisions deserve a stupid retcon[/QUOTE]
👍 Right. HiC deserves to be detroyed with no more than a pic.
Now, Williamson, give us a Titans run, please.
[QUOTE=L.H.;5138215]�� Right. HiC deserves to be detroyed with no more than a pic.
Now, Williamson, give us a Titans run, please.[/QUOTE]
I must confess, it is satisfying. Im not a King hater. I loved some of his works, Grayson first of all, bt HIC should be forgotten for good.
Williamson on Titans? mmh it could be interesting.
Robin 80th Deluxe cover
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In their list of favorite Batman family stories, the Gotham Knights devs list Grayson: Agent of Spyral as their favorite Dick Grayson story. I find that incredibly encouraging
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5138438]In their list of favorite Batman family stories, the Gotham Knights devs list Grayson: Agent of Spyral as their favorite Dick Grayson story. I find that incredibly encouraging[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't mind an Agent 37 outfit for the game at all
The solicitations doesn't mention this is the Final Issue.
However, there is a theory we will have a general relaunch in January. Death Metal will end on December (#6 and #7 will be released that month), while all Endless Winter event will happen on December.
Also, the cover of Nightwing #77 seems a last issue cover.
written by DAN JURGENS
art by RONAN CLIQUET
cover by TRAVIS MOORE
variant cover by ALAN QUAH
ON SALE 12/15/20
$3.99 US | 32 PAGES | FC | DC
Christmas has come to Gotham City, and all across the city people have taken time out of their busy schedules to spend time with loved ones. But Dick Grayson has found himself in the midst of a dilemma: How can he take time off when crime never sleeps? And how can he spend time with loved ones when he has pushed them all away? An answer, in the form of a random encounter with a lost soul—and kindred spirit—awaits him.
1. So Dick is in Gotham. So probably directly after Joker War
2. I thought he already reconciled with his loved ones a.k.a Babs and Bat-Family?
3. Please don't tell me it's another plot of Dick getting new lover. After last issue I feel sorry for Bea, sure she maybe the only one in the world who loves Ric unlike us, but she still stay on his side and truly watch over him, unlike a certain billionare who just said that he always watch over him like it will change something.
[QUOTE=failo.legendkiller;5138319]I must confess, it is satisfying. Im not a King hater. I loved some of his works, Grayson first of all, bt HIC should be forgotten for good.
Williamson on Titans? mmh it could be interesting.[/QUOTE]
HIC and City of Bane are one of the worst stories I've ever read. Enjoyed his Grayson and Robin War though
I don't like the vibe of: "And how can he spend time with loved ones when he has pushed them all away?" If that is still about Ric, then, well. Who pushed who away?
I too hope that a kindred spirit is not a love interest. I'd love it to be Alfred? By the power of reboot shenanigans, or maybe Damian? But why am I even hoping?
"[URL="https://www.gamesradar.com/dark-nights-death-metal-expands-with-three-more-one-shots-in-december/http://"]Dark Nights: Death Metal: The Last Stories of the DC Universe[/URL]" also seems promising. I hope the anthology actually focuses on the Titans.
He is in a lot of covers of December solicitations. Some look promising.
His actual book does look like a final issue, sounds like is buying time for the new stuff. And 78 is not a bad number to start with a new creative team.
Sounds very generic.
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Well, it looks like despite planning to betray them, the Legion of Doom that Nightwing's League will free will join them in the final battle anyway, because what are you gonna do, fight each other while Perpetua Who Laughs still around?