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[QUOTE=Frontier;4772120]Yeah, I'd kind of prefer his First being Kori.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. All-time favorite couple from DC:
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He knows a great editor. We need to somehow have Dick outside of Batman's editor office. Which would never happen? If there is a way within the Batman office he should get his own.
Marv Wolfman's Nightwing run was pretty shit. A real punch in the gut using it basically as a platform for his upcoming Vigilante book.
I have to ask. Is Dick actually heir to Wayne ? Or Damian? I mean due to the fact Dick is consider kinda of like the first born does he have the heir rights ?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4772446]I have to ask. Is Dick actually heir to Wayne ? Or Damian? I mean due to the fact Dick is consider kinda of like the first born does he have the heir rights ?[/QUOTE]
Not even before the New 52 was Dick an heir to Wayne, it was Tim.
It was Dick. He literally inherited a Wayne :p
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4772249]He allowed Morrison to make Dick Batman because he allowed any writer with a good reputation to do anything.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly my point. Nightwing book (and Titans, too) keeps living in the shadow of the great writer with the great title. The same happened with Damian, during Snyder Batman run: he didn't want to write Damian, and Robin just disappeared.
About the Wayne heritage: in the first Nightwing Annual, Bruce stated that Dick was his heir to Wayne Corp. Then Tim was adopted and started acting like the heir. Then again, when Bruce died, Dick stated that he didn't want to run Wayne Corp, and Damian took his place. Right now, seems that Dick is kinda the heir of Batman, while Damian is the heir of Wayne Corp, probably togheter with Tim. I bet Jason will have the cars ;)
[QUOTE=Rakiduam;4772456]Not even before the New 52 was Dick an heir to Wayne, it was Tim.[/QUOTE]
Should Dick ever be the heir ?
There's a reason why Dick isn't the heir. He was never officially adopted. Whereas Tim was, after his real parents died, and Cassandra Cain had been too. Both of those were retconned out when New 52 happened. Damian, as his actual biological son, would be the legitimate heir nowadays.
What wait? Why wasn't he officially adopted? Weird
He was officially adopted, but it came in late.
As for why it didn't happen immediately, it's because Bruce was too young at that time and didn't think of himself as a parent. In some interpretation, I think Bruce also feels like he doesn't have the right to claim parenthood from the Graysons, though I don't remember where I got this one.
Bruce and Dick kinda just happen. A natural mix of two orphans who lost their parents to crime, crime fighters, mentor-apprentice, brotherhood, guardian-ward, maybe father-son but they never say it. Two people having fun and make the best of their situation.
Then before they realize it, Dick has already grown up and left the Manor. So Bruce also felt like it's not needed anymore or that it's too late.
Preview of Lost Carnival: A Dick Grayson Graphic Novel
[url]https://twitter.com/thedcnation/status/1212850649844420608[/url]
[QUOTE=Drako;4773475]Preview of Lost Carnival: A Dick Grayson Graphic Novel
[url]https://twitter.com/thedcnation/status/1212850649844420608[/url][/QUOTE]
Can we preorder this
[QUOTE=Drako;4773475]Preview of Lost Carnival: A Dick Grayson Graphic Novel
[url]https://twitter.com/thedcnation/status/1212850649844420608[/url][/QUOTE]
Looks nice. Seems they'll acknowledge a little more of his Romani heritage.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4773307]He was officially adopted, but it came in late.
As for why it didn't happen immediately, it's because Bruce was too young at that time and didn't think of himself as a parent. In some interpretation, I think Bruce also feels like he doesn't have the right to claim parenthood from the Graysons, though I don't remember where I got this one.
Bruce and Dick kinda just happen. A natural mix of two orphans who lost their parents to crime, crime fighters, mentor-apprentice, brotherhood, guardian-ward, maybe father-son but they never say it. Two people having fun and make the best of their situation.
Then before they realize it, Dick has already grown up and left the Manor. So Bruce also felt like it's not needed anymore or that it's too late.[/QUOTE]
Late, but still before Tim and Cass.
So should he have been officially adopted? How old genreally is Bruce when he meets Dick?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4774284]So should he have been officially adopted? How old generally is Bruce when he meets Dick?[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't care since it's just papers while they already have a legendary bond, and Dick doesn't personally care about the Wayne wealth or inheritance.
Bronze Age, Bruce is 28 when Dick is 18 but he started as a kid, so... umm... let's say 22 and 12 at the oldest.
Post Crisis, Bruce is 28, Dick is 8
New 52, Bruce is 26, Dick is 16
So I guess on average he's mid-twenties
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4774375]I honestly don't care since it's just papers while they already have a legendary bond, and Dick doesn't personally care about the Wayne wealth or inheritance.
Bronze Age, Bruce is 28 when Dick is 18 but he started as a kid, so... umm... let's say 22 and 12 at the oldest.
Post Crisis, Bruce is 28, Dick is 8
New 52, Bruce is 26, Dick is 16
So I guess on average he's mid-twenties[/QUOTE]
I think Post Crisis Bruce was 27 and Dick was 12.
I mean I guess 8 to 12 would be a good age for Dick to be adopted. Maybe official adopted. I mean for the most part what should the bond be father and son? Or siblings
[QUOTE=nhienphan2808;4774457]I think Post Crisis Bruce was 27 and Dick was 12.[/QUOTE]
He returned to Gotham at 25 and Dick came in at Year Three, so I guess he can still be 27
The 8 one I got from Devin Grayson run but I think he is older in Year One
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4774682]The 8 one I got from Devin Grayson run but I think he is older in Year One[/QUOTE]The 8 is kind of non sense. It is mentioned in some comics, but in comics that show is origin story or that are set at the beginning of his career he is usually more like 12.
Btw. for teh Golden Age it was retconned the Bruce was Born in 1915 and Dick in 1928, and they met the first time in 1940, so Bruce was 25 and Dick 12.
Golden Age Dick also doesnt act like 8 to me. I will forever find it funny that Golden Age heroes were all like early 20s, yet Golden Age Bruce acts and thinks MUCH more pragmatic and adult than any later Bruce who was older than him, and [GA] much more explicitly a dad to Dick.
I have to admit tho i like Bruce younger than 25 when he started, and meeting Dick 1 year in rather than 2 year. Year One is not something i trust for mainstream Batman.
I avoid Devin Grayson in everything Batfam, really. That includes the adoption.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4774720]The 8 is kind of non sense. It is mentioned in some comics, but in comics that show is origin story or that are set at the beginning of his career he is usually more like 12.
Btw. for teh Golden Age it was retconned the Bruce was Born in 1915 and Dick in 1928, and they met the first time in 1940, so Bruce was 25 and Dick 12.[/QUOTE]
Originally he was 8 it’s changed many times over the years and will continue to since they try to minimize Bruce’s age difference
[QUOTE=Rac7d*;4774966]Originally he was 8[/QUOTE]Not really, him starting at 8 was mentioned the first time in Marv Wolfmans NTT.
Funny thing is, NTT also established that the original Teen Titans weren't even teens yet - 20 year old Dick had supposedly known Donna for eight years - which would mean they were 12 when the TT were formed. And Garfield Logan had been their peer in the 70s series, but was three years younger than them in NTT. Wolfman clearly didn't do the maths right.
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A whole new meaning to Big Dick Little Dick.
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I’m curious. Given the fact his name in some continuities his name came from Clarke’s home planet. About a guy who made himself fly. Show Nightwing have made his suit somewhat capabilities to fly? Or thanks to his acrobatics that’s good enough
I think that flight might be a bit excessive for the type of hero Nightwing is, but I know in some continuities he has Spider-man like gliders under his arms, which I wouldn't mind seeing in the main universe.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4777650]I’m curious. Given the fact his name in some continuities his name came from Clarke’s home planet. About a guy who made himself fly. Show Nightwing have made his suit somewhat capabilities to fly? Or thanks to his acrobatics that’s good enough[/QUOTE]
The BTAS version and the first Rebirth suit have an underarm glider. He doesn't even need a grappling hook if he falls down around a construction area, but it's useful to have if he jumps from somewhere high into an open area with no bars to swing around or gargoyles to grapple on the way down.
True, flight might be much. I guess in the sense if the underarm gliders could be attached to part of his suit. That they can retract. By that, I mean how some of his suit designs have the stripes go all across his arms and part of his back.
[QUOTE=Valentonis;4777653]I think that flight might be a bit excessive for the type of hero Nightwing is, but I know in some continuities he has Spider-man like gliders under his arms, which I wouldn't mind seeing in the main universe.[/QUOTE]
Correct, and here's the proof:
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No, Dick's background as a performer is reflected in the way he moves across the rooftops. He's a showman and it shows in the way artists draw him moving across the city.
I like him parkouring his way over flying.
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Look at the show off.
I love Batman's face here. He looks like disapproves but Nightwing gives Zero f**ks lol
[QUOTE=dietrich;4778109]No, Dick's background as a performer is reflected in the way he moves across the rooftops. He's a showman and it shows in the way artists draw him moving across the city.
I like him parkouring his way over flying.
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Look at the show off.
I love Batman's face here. He looks like disapproves but Nightwing gives Zero f**ks lol[/QUOTE]
Dan mora is just awesome!
I would love to have him as the main artist of the book or just doing the covers.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4777650]I’m curious. Given the fact his name in some continuities his name came from Clarke’s home planet. About a guy who made himself fly. Show Nightwing have made his suit somewhat capabilities to fly? Or thanks to his acrobatics that’s good enough[/QUOTE]The acrobatics is enough. Don't forget, his family when performing at the circus were known as the FLYING Graysons.
[QUOTE=Drako;4778197]Dan mora is just awesome!
I would love to have him as the main artist of the book or just doing the covers.[/QUOTE]
Dan is indeed awesome.
This cover is so alive and full of energy especially Nightwing. Dan manged to capture Dick's personality and charm in one shot.
The readers eyes can't help but be drawn to him.
He looks so happy and carefree which makes me sad since this was just before he got RICed.
I'd take Dan on a Nightwing title or Travis Moore.
[QUOTE=Digifiend;4778368]The acrobatics is enough. Don't forget, his family when performing at the circus were known as the FLYING Graysons.[/QUOTE]
Would the armgliders be also too much?
[QUOTE=Digifiend;4778368][QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4778448]Would the armgliders be also too much?[/QUOTE]The acrobatics is enough. Don't forget, his family when performing at the circus were known as the FLYING Graysons.[/QUOTE]
Completely agree. Just thought those "arm-gliders" would come in handy as a [I]back-up plan[/I] in case of emergencies. ;)
I feel like a lot of artists go way overboard with the "acrobatic" stuff where it just looks ridiculous. Booth is one that comes to mind. Just odd body positions that don't really make any practical sense. I'd love for Dick to have more useful things like gliders on his suit or anything, but they will never do that because they want Nightwing to continue to be a Daredevil knockoff.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4774972]Not really, him starting at 8 was mentioned the first time in Marv Wolfmans NTT.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure him being 8 was the first age given to him in the original Golden Age Batman run I think. It is why the Young Justice show had him be 8 to reference that.