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[QUOTE=Claude;5275535]
Ah, sometimes I wonder where we'd be by now if we'd had two years of Percy rather than the Ric storyline. He'll never be my favourite writer, but he had legitimate big plans, was gearing up to make big changes, and was doing a decent job of the "maybe Nightwing starts streetlevel but he'll scale up" comic book storytelling that Dick doesn't often get. Felt like it was cut off just as it was about to show its potential.[/QUOTE]
I often wonder the same. Percy's not my favorite writer by any stretch, and I disliked how he turned Dick into a technophobe, but he definitely had a vision for "Nightwing" and not just "Batman's sidekick" and I think overall, whatever Percy was planning to do would've been a positive gain for the character even if I took issue with some of the details.
That said his death race arc was by far the best thing he did on the title, and I'd even go so far as to say they're some of the best issues Nightwing has had in the past decade.
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[QUOTE=Ascended;5275593]I often wonder the same. Percy's not my favorite writer by any stretch, and I disliked how he turned Dick into a technophobe, but he definitely had a vision for "Nightwing" and not just "Batman's sidekick" and I think overall, whatever Percy was planning to do would've been a positive gain for the character even if I took issue with some of the details.
That said his death race arc was by far the best thing he did on the title, and I'd even go so far as to say they're some of the best issues Nightwing has had in the past decade.[/QUOTE]
I think his Dick was less of a technophobe and more just not overly reliant on tech.
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[QUOTE=Ascended;5275593]I often wonder the same. Percy's not my favorite writer by any stretch, and I disliked how he turned Dick into a technophobe, but he definitely had a vision for "Nightwing" and not just "Batman's sidekick" and I think overall, whatever Percy was planning to do would've been a positive gain for the character even if I took issue with some of the details.
[B]That said his death race arc was by far the best thing he did on the title, and I'd even go so far as to say they're some of the best issues Nightwing has had in the past decade[/B].[/QUOTE]
Imo they were some of the best Nightwing Issues in the past decade. They encompass a lot of what I want to see in a Nightwing book. Globetrotting, new characters (Silencer), old characters (Flamingo), Dick on a bike :p, and the tech-magic mixture was great too. Percy definitely had plans to re-establish Dick as a well connected hero and back then his plans sounded a lot like the things Seeley wanted to do.
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It's amazing how much more fun and interesting nightwing becomes when he has the entire dcu as his sandbox and isolated in a bland empty city.
As far as the fantastic themes just write the nightwing alot as a titans solo than a bat solo. Problem solved.
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Nightwing #77 Preview
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[QUOTE=WonderNight;5275818]It's amazing how much more fun and interesting nightwing becomes when he has the entire dcu as his sandbox and isolated in a bland empty city.
As far as the fantastic themes just write the nightwing alot as a titans solo than a bat solo. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]
Sadly not if Bateditors don't want that. The only way is if he and the titans get their own editors and make a deal that Dick can be used limited in Batbooks. Other then that Nightwing should be on his own.
[QUOTE=WonderNight;5275488]I got some ideas :o.
I believe nightwing should be global, the only real reason why nightwing has a city is because batman has a city. But nightwing shouldn't be batman (batman lite hurts nightwing).
So how about nightwing being the global detective! Something like instead of blockbuster being the king pin of bludhaven he's a international king pin? And nightwing's out to shut him down.
Nightwing could do this solo or with spyral or as his JL solo/team up missions.
VegasHaven would be dicks home base for rest, down time and resources and gear. Dick would globetrotte for missions and crime fighting. He could even have halys circus or spyral back for his globetrotting.
Nightwing: agent of spyral or JL. Globetrotting around the world to take on a international kin pin, a global court of the owls, a global organization of villains.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. To be honest that's why he could simply could get a job has a P.I or like you said using Haley's Circus to fight around the world. We do know the Court of Owls have Harley's Circus. So it would be nice if he takes them now. Yea I love Bludhaven would be more experiment city and move it out of the state like Gotham.
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[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5273677]Depends really. I mean the Titans already have tech people. So Oracle really isn't needed. The same with JL they don't need Oracle unless the plot needs her. So it doesn't really need to be said yes Babs is smart but there are people already on a team that can also do the same job[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Babs is not a Titan, never has been. Only reason she showed up in the 1999 Titans series is because she was Dick's girlfriend.
[QUOTE=WonderNight;5275556]Oh I get that, It why I like spyral. The way to go about it is people don't know nightwings in town. The only people that knows nightwing town are the bad guys he just beat up, and they dont know halys in town. Or dick just travel on his own. Or rejoins spyral with helena or artemis crock or bette ashis partner.[/QUOTE]You mention Artemis because of the Young Justice cartoon, I assume? In the comics, she's a villain.
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[url]https://comic-watch.com/news/sneak-peek-preview-of-dc-comics-nightwing-77[/url][/QUOTE]
Looks good but that was to be expected. I'm positivly surprised to see Bruce, but I won't pick it up except if the kindred spirit is one of the characters I have been missing in a Nightwing comic.
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[QUOTE=Lazurus33;5276187]Nightwing #77 Preview
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Jurgen's Dick is such a pill. Now even Christmas is a battle. The dude is just a bummer. They finally give it up and bring back Dick, and all he has him do is bitch about it. It really was just so stupid leaving this guy on the book. I don't know if he's bitter about Ric's reception or what, but i really don't understand what he's trying to accomplish by making Dick the one buzzkill to his own return.
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Yea. Dick is not Bruce. To have him be like this is dumb.
One question is Dark Metal in the main universe or different ?
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[QUOTE=Frontier;5275613]I think his Dick was less of a technophobe and more just not overly reliant on tech.[/QUOTE]
He’s not a technophobe he just not as inclined as Babs and Tim. That team up with Superman and he admitted that he could not reverse engineer something the way Bruce could was nice way of showing us how he differs from the rest of the bat family.
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[QUOTE=Rac7d*;5276526]He’s not a technophobe he just not as inclined as Babs and Tim. That team up with Superman and he admitted that he could not reverse engineer something the way Bruce could was nice way of showing us how he differs from the rest of the bat family.[/QUOTE]
He was in that run. He didn't even have a cellphone and his apartment had a record player in his 20s lol. Dick was push as someone who doesn't like tech.
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[QUOTE=WonderNight;5276767]He was in that run. He didn't even have a cellphone and his apartment had a record player in his 20s lol. Dick was push as someone who doesn't like tech.[/QUOTE]
Or he's just not into digital :p.
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[QUOTE=WonderNight;5276767]He was in that run. He didn't even have a cellphone and his apartment had a record player in his 20s lol. Dick was push as someone who doesn't like tech.[/QUOTE]
See, I think that's perfectly valid - Percy overdid it, because he's not a subtle writer, but I think it's perfectly valid to say "Dick grew up in a circus, circuses aren't really a thing any more, so he's probably quite a Retro Person". It also does give him a bit of a USP among the Bat Family - in that people like Bruce and Tim are techy forward planners, whereas Dick is an improviser who does most of his crime fighting with two sticks.
He shouldn't be [I]ignorant[/I] of technology, but disinterested and not having it as part of his Civilian Life? That seems plausible.
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[QUOTE=Claude;5276785]See, I think that's perfectly valid - Percy overdid it, because he's not a subtle writer, but I think it's perfectly valid to say "Dick grew up in a circus, circuses aren't really a thing any more, so he's probably quite a Retro Person". It also does give him a bit of a USP among the Bat Family - in that people like Bruce and Tim are techy forward planners, whereas Dick is an improviser who does most of his crime fighting with two sticks.
He shouldn't be [I]ignorant[/I] of technology, but disinterested and not having it as part of his Civilian Life? That seems plausible.[/QUOTE]
But that was not his character before that run. Not to mention he was rased by a billionaire.
