That movie was fantastic, you uncultured philistines! :D
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That movie was fantastic, you uncultured philistines! :D
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I thought Snyder was done with mainstream DC comics. I guess it's probably going to be Black Label.
But yeah, this doesn't surprise me. He's always been more willing to write Dick of all the Robins (not counting Duke).
[QUOTE=Frontier;4926370]I thought Snyder was done with mainstream DC comics. I guess it's probably going to be Black Label. [/QUOTE]
I don't care whether it's Black Label or not, I'll take quality Nightwing where I can find it.
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So that this morning... good little treat to start the day
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Oh yeah, the growing list of good writers with a Nightwing pitch. Crossing fingers DC say "yes" for a change
[QUOTE=Drako;4926350][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/vcY35iI.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Finally some good news on the comic front for Dick.
My hope is Synder has an idea so good that he has to do it as an ongoing story set in the main DC universe.
If it's out of continuity I'm sure they will say yes. Snyder's one of their biggest writers so they'll probably let him have any pet project he wants if it keeps him happy.
If it's in-continuity......I dunno if DC would want to "waste" their big talent on Nightwing's ongoing. But again, they want Snyder happy, so maybe if he agrees to do a big project in return they might let him have Nightwing?
Jim Lee did say he'd protect Dick "at all costs." Maybe, and I'm being optimistic here, but maybe Snyder getting the title is the first sign of that.
Any chance of him being in the batgirl movie, with the birds of prey wasted on Harley, he is her only other frequent ally
[QUOTE=Ascended;4926596]If it's out of continuity I'm sure they will say yes. Snyder's one of their biggest writers so they'll probably let him have any pet project he wants if it keeps him happy.
If it's in-continuity......I dunno if DC would want to "waste" their big talent on Nightwing's ongoing. But again, they want Snyder happy, so maybe if he agrees to do a big project in return they might let him have Nightwing?
Jim Lee did say he'd protect Dick "at all costs." Maybe, and I'm being optimistic here, but maybe Snyder getting the title is the first sign of that.[/QUOTE]
This is good news. I think because of who he is and status at DC it would be hard for them to say no but I could be wrong.
Who does synder have to pitch to besides Jim lee?
[QUOTE=Rac7d*;4926615]Any chance of him being in the batgirl movie, with the birds of prey wasted on Harley, he is her only other frequent ally[/QUOTE]
Hard pass.
I doubt that Batgirl film is happening anyway. And given DC's track record it likely wouldn't be that good if it did get made. But Dick can carry his own film, he doesn't need to be a supporting player in Babs' movie. And I feel like a lot of Dick's interactions with Babs don't leave either of them looking too good, and that's a poor foundation to build from.
I'd accept Dick as a supporting character in a Batman movie, just because of the history and that seems a more natural way to launch a solo film afterwards. But I've had it with Nightwing playing second fiddle to other people.
[QUOTE=OWL45;4926828]This is good news. I think because of who he is and status at DC it would be hard for them to say no but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I think it is good news.
Snyder's generally done well by the character outside of a few instances, like the Owls punching scene, but he at least respects the character and likes including him in things. That being said I don't know if Snyder would actually write a Nightwing ongoing. I feel it would be more likely that he pitches an idea and someone else writes it for him. Unless he is now super passionate about the character the way a Johns is for Shazam I can't really see him wanting to write a Nightwing/Dick Grayson ongoing book as it feels something below what he usually does now, but who knows.
[QUOTE=Ascended;4926853]Hard pass.
I doubt that Batgirl film is happening anyway. And given DC's track record it likely wouldn't be that good if it did get made. But Dick can carry his own film, he doesn't need to be a supporting player in Babs' movie. And I feel like a lot of Dick's interactions with Babs don't leave either of them looking too good, and that's a poor foundation to build from.
I'd accept Dick as a supporting character in a Batman movie, just because of the history and that seems a more natural way to launch a solo film afterwards. But I've had it with Nightwing playing second fiddle to other people.[/QUOTE]Thank you. The last thing nightwing needs is to be introduced to the mainstream as a supporting character for freak'in batgirl. Running around gotham like he's just one of batman's sidekicks. Nightwing first introduction needs to be as a independent hero who connects back to batman.
I don't want Nightwing to be the falcon of the dceu.
If I was being dick in to the dceu I'd start with a nightwing movie that has some flash back to batman and Robin than build to a reunion in sequels.
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Make it happen Dc! Black Mirror was great!
Haven't like anything Snyder has written in nearly 7-8 years. And it'll probably be the Court. But I don't care. Dick needs this. DC is never gonna let a C-list writer do anything meaningful with the character. Snyder will do something
I’m curious how would people feel about a Nightwing and Babs Batgirl co-leading a team up movie with both their names in the title basically like Ant-man and the Wasp. Might be a better hook and help differentiate from being Batman lite in a way a solo Nightwing flick might be at risk or becoming.
[QUOTE=OpaqueGiraffe17;4927057]I’m curious how would people feel about a Nightwing and Babs Batgirl co-leading a team up movie with both their names in the title basically like Ant-man and the Wasp. Might be a better hook and help differentiate from being Batman lite in a way a solo Nightwing flick might be at risk or becoming.[/QUOTE]Nightwing won't come across as batman lite if he's a globetrotting hero. With is one of the main reasons I want it in the comics. Batman's solo movies (and comics) will always revolve around his city Gotham nightwing globetrotting would be something different.
Nightwing/batgirl would be worse than batman lite. He'd be Robin lite.
But now that rumor of the new batman movies are stand alone and disconnect from the rest of the dceu. Nightwing could take batman's place in the dceu. Just like they were about to do with supergirl taking over superman.
[QUOTE=Badou;4926886]Snyder's generally done well by the character outside of a few instances, like the Owls punching scene, but he at least respects the character and likes including him in things. That being said I don't know if Snyder would actually write a Nightwing ongoing. I feel it would be more likely that he pitches an idea and someone else writes it for him. Unless he is now super passionate about the character the way a Johns is for Shazam I can't really see him wanting to write a Nightwing/Dick Grayson ongoing book as it feels something below what he usually does now, but who knows.[/QUOTE]
You talk your usual sense, but how ongoing is "ongoing" these days? The first six or twelve issues of a "Nightwing" series by Snyder would be a huge leap-up for whatever followed.
I wouldn't even mind if the Court were involved again - although I'd hope for something a bit fresher.
(And for it not to be co-written with Tynion.)
Actually, that's a question for the group - if someone like Snyder came in for a single, high profile maxi-series "Nightwing" story, what would be best to be done with the villain? Someone/a bunch of new people like Black Mirror did? An existing Dick Villain like Raptor, Blockbuster, Minos or Pyg? Or lay a claim to Batman villains that Dick has a particular history with, like Two Face or the Owls?
I wouldn't mind a proper recontextualising of Deathstroke as a Nightwing/Titans villain rather than a Batman one - but we may be too late on that one.
[QUOTE=Claude;4927173]You talk your usual sense, but how ongoing is "ongoing" these days? The first six or twelve issues of a "Nightwing" series by Snyder would be a huge leap-up for whatever followed.
I wouldn't even mind if the Court were involved again - although I'd hope for something a bit fresher.
(And for it not to be co-written with Tynion.)
Actually, that's a question for the group - if someone like Snyder came in for a single, high profile maxi-series "Nightwing" story, what would be best to be done with the villain? Someone/a bunch of new people like Black Mirror did? An existing Dick Villain like Raptor, Blockbuster, Minos or Pyg? Or lay a claim to Batman villains that Dick has a particular history with, like Two Face or the Owls?
I wouldn't mind a proper recontextualising of Deathstroke as a Nightwing/Titans villain rather than a Batman one - but we may be too late on that one.[/QUOTE]For me I just hope for synder to reboot nightwing with a new status quo and direction so nightwing can progress and grow as a franchise.
Nightwing going back to the same old things post ric would be such a waste.
Well, whether it's canon or not, let's see if there are people who feels like Snyder's best-selling talent is wasted in writing Nightwing
[QUOTE=Claude;4927173]You talk your usual sense, but how ongoing is "ongoing" these days? The first six or twelve issues of a "Nightwing" series by Snyder would be a huge leap-up for whatever followed.
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I'd never complain if Snyder wants to use Dick's character for something, especially given the awful state the character has been in for a while now. It's just Snyder doesn't really look at or take on small projects anymore, which is maybe good if he is interested in using Dick's character, but he tends to do really BIG stories that expand into even more stories, so I can't picture him doing a small 10-12 issue Nightwing run. I also have a tough time imagining DC putting a big name like Snyder on book with Dick/Nightwing as the focus given how they treat the character now, so maybe it would be someone else scripting Snyders' ideas. I really am just unsure.
But I'd take anything. Not like we have anything to lose. Even if it is just Snyder wanting to use Dick in another non Nightwing book. Maybe that will make it feel like Dick is part of the DCU again and have some kind of presence beyond his own title, which he basically hasn't had in the 9 years since the New 52 started. Or it could even be a Black Label book that is completely separated from everything with the DCU. Anything would be better than what we have.
[QUOTE=OpaqueGiraffe17;4927057]I’m curious how would people feel about a Nightwing and Babs Batgirl co-leading a team up movie with both their names in the title basically like Ant-man and the Wasp. Might be a better hook and help differentiate from being Batman lite in a way a solo Nightwing flick might be at risk or becoming.[/QUOTE]
Still a hard pass from me. I mean, obviously if the trailers looked good I'd give it a shot, but I'm not even a tiny bit interested in Nightwing and Babs teaming up. That would be a big mark against the movie for me, and I don't think it would help Dick at all. He doesn't need Babs to sell a movie, and given the overlap in fanbases I don't think Babs would gain much box office from Dick's presence either.
[QUOTE=Claude;4927173]
Actually, that's a question for the group - if someone like Snyder came in for a single, high profile maxi-series "Nightwing" story, what would be best to be done with the villain? Someone/a bunch of new people like Black Mirror did? An existing Dick Villain like Raptor, Blockbuster, Minos or Pyg? Or lay a claim to Batman villains that Dick has a particular history with, like Two Face or the Owls?[/QUOTE]
I'd be fine with whatever villain fits the story. It'd probably be the Court of Owls though. Not my first choice, but I'm not against the idea either. I'd personally like to see Pyg and his Circus of Strange or Blockbuster, Kathy Webb-Kane, or HIVE.
Also, anyone else find it funny that CBR ran a story on this? You know things are slow when this site is taking a tweet like Snyder's and writing articles about it.
[QUOTE=Claude;4927173]You talk your usual sense, but how ongoing is "ongoing" these days? The first six or twelve issues of a "Nightwing" series by Snyder would be a huge leap-up for whatever followed.[/QUOTE]You never know... look how long Williamson's been on Flash, or how long King was on Batman. Both 80+ issues.
Months ago, Snyder said he was planning to write a Wonder Woman story and a Nightwing run. I don't know if Death Metal will turn in a WW story, but I'm pretty sure his pitch is about a Nightwing ongoing
It could very well be the ongoing. I hope it is, Nightwing needs a high profile creator, and someone who can stick around for more than 12 issues and really establish something. Snyder might be DC's biggest name right now and he's definitely capable of long runs. He's got my blessing. I said long ago that Dick needs someone at AT&T/WB to take notice of him, or a big creator who can do what they want. Well, with everything that's happened since Didio left DC's bosses might be paying attention and Snyder's got the juice to do the projects he wants to do, so.....maybe if the gods are kind we're getting what we need to bring Nightwing out of this horrible slump.
Whatever Snyder does, if he actually does anything with Nightwing, I just hope it's not Bat-lite. I want that dark Silver Age vibe that Seeley (and even Percy, from what little I read of his run) did; aliens and monsters and crazy locations as well as mobsters and smugglers and psychopaths.
Snyder on the book would be a huge benefit regardless, but f*ck am I tired of Dick being written like nothing more than a Gotham sidekick, doing Gotham style things.
If they wanna give Snyder Nightwing instead of Wonder Woman I'd be for it.
If only because Nightwing needs it far more and there is nowhere to go but up at this point, whereas what little we've seen of his setup for Wonder Woman seems like a downgrade from Rucka's Rebirth run.
TPB name - The Return of Dick Grayson. Ric will be gone by issue 75!
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I'm curious Jason and Dick. Frenemies or Bros?
[QUOTE=Digifiend;4930307]TPB name - The Return of Dick Grayson. Ric will be gone by issue 75!
[url]https://www.penguinrandomhouseretail.com/book/?isbn=9781779507433[/url][/QUOTE]
Happy Easter indeed!!!
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4930309]I'm curious Jason and Dick. Frenemies or Bros?[/QUOTE]
Distant cousin, Relatives you see twice a year
I'm curious if DC ever did this whole Dick has a kid would it be a good or bad idea? I mean the issue is we know it won't last.
[QUOTE=SiegePerilous02;4930172]If they wanna give Snyder Nightwing instead of Wonder Woman I'd be for it.
If only because Nightwing needs it far more and there is nowhere to go but up at this point, whereas what little we've seen of his setup for Wonder Woman seems like a downgrade from Rucka's Rebirth run.[/QUOTE]Can't synder do both? I'd love him on both my favorite characters both what did he do to downgrade diana?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4930455]I'm curious if DC ever did this whole Dick has a kid would it be a good or bad idea? I mean the issue is we know it won't last.[/QUOTE]
Only in Elseworlds, like Kingdom Come and Nightwing: New Order. And I think New52 Earth 2?
The first two were with Starfire, the last with Babs.
Oh yeah, and a daughter currently in Batman Beyond comics.
[QUOTE=WonderNight;4930483]Can't Synder do both? I'd love him on both my favorite characters both what did he do to downgrade Diana?[/QUOTE]
Oh it's just because Rucka is considered the best Wonder Woman writer while Snyder's decision and storytelling is divisive
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4930309]I'm curious Jason and Dick. Frenemies or Bros?[/QUOTE]
Bros
[QUOTE=cc008;4930333]Happy Easter indeed!!![/QUOTE]
He is risen!
And please God, no [I]way[/I] Jurgens stays on, right?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4930309]I'm curious Jason and Dick. Frenemies or Bros?[/QUOTE]
Foes, not bros - add a bit of texture to it. Establish that Dick should be the [I]only[/I] member of the bat family who finds themselves in opposition to Jason - and make that a source of tension for both characters in their relationships with the others. Fully estranged brothers, kill the whole "Robin Boyband" thing.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4930455]I'm curious if DC ever did this whole Dick has a kid would it be a good or bad idea? I mean the issue is we know it won't last.[/QUOTE]
Add to Jackalope89 list another daughter in Last Knight on Earth, Bryce. Her mother is Babs.
Also, I remember a timeline in Justice Lords (Batman Beyond) where Dick and Babs are married and have a son.
I'd love to have Mar'i from Kingdom Come as canon, together with the others Titans kids. Her love story with Damian is great.
Nightwing returns in 75? Until I see it on the page I won't believe it. Haven't we thought Dick was getting fixed and been wrong before? Sorry DC, you get nothing from me until I see things put right. I got nothing for you DC. No trust. Liar.
Dick having a kid? How about we get him back on solid ground, and with a unique (but fitting) purpose, direction, and status quo first? Then, sure, absolutely. I even got a plan to bring Mar'i into the main canon.
Dick and Jason? I don't want Jason counted among the heroes. He's far more interesting as the Punisher of the DCU, and therefore any Bat should want to bring him down and bring him in. It can be bittersweet, sure, and that conflict might be set aside in the face of a greater Crisis (just like heroes will work with Deathstroke or Harley when sh*t gets real) but the Red Hood should be the dude who straight up kills criminals, with no remorse, not the "bad boy" in casa de Wayne.
[QUOTE=Ascended;4930761]Nightwing returns in 75? Until I see it on the page I won't believe it.....[/QUOTE]
Same here, I have zero faith left in the DC Office when Nightwing is involved. *sigh* :p
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4930309]I'm curious Jason and Dick. Frenemies or Bros?[/QUOTE]
I liked the dynamic best when Jason was a punisher type when Dick wore the cowl - Jason was basically Dick's personal Joker.