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[QUOTE=Shadowcat;5218032]Haven’t picked it up yet, but is New Order any good?[/QUOTE]
I thought it was pretty decent.
My biggest issue with New Order is that it's a story about Dick trapped in a moral dilemma where compromise *had* to be made and there were no good options. And I rarely enjoy those stories because these characters aren't built to operate in shades of gray. I read the book....oh, just as Percy was starting to prove that he wasn't going to have a great handle on Nightwing, I guess, and I was really hoping for a big, classic, awesome Nightwing story. And I didn't get that. What I got was a interesting and fairly compelling story about Dick who had seen his entire life defined by a situation where he only had crappy options.
But I thought it was interesting, fairly well written, and had solid art. Dick "sounded" right, if you adjust your expectations slightly to account for his position and the state of the world. I'd recommend it, but with the caveat that this isn't going to be a typical story of binary superhero morality where the good guys do good things and the bad guys do bad things. I got a little bit of an 80's deconstruction vibe from it, actually. But I'd recommend it, especially since good Nightwing has been so hard to find the last couple years.
[url]https://toyswonderland.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/soosootoys-night-vigilante-1-6-scale-collectible-figure[/url]
This looks great
[QUOTE=Ascended;5223923]I thought it was pretty decent.
My biggest issue with New Order is that it's a story about Dick trapped in a moral dilemma where compromise *had* to be made and there were no good options. And I rarely enjoy those stories because these characters aren't built to operate in shades of gray. I read the book....oh, just as Percy was starting to prove that he wasn't going to have a great handle on Nightwing, I guess, and I was really hoping for a big, classic, awesome Nightwing story. And I didn't get that. What I got was a interesting and fairly compelling story about Dick who had seen his entire life defined by a situation where he only had crappy options.
But I thought it was interesting, fairly well written, and had solid art. Dick "sounded" right, if you adjust your expectations slightly to account for his position and the state of the world. I'd recommend it, but with the caveat that this isn't going to be a typical story of binary superhero morality where the good guys do good things and the bad guys do bad things. I got a little bit of an 80's deconstruction vibe from it, actually. But I'd recommend it, especially since good Nightwing has been so hard to find the last couple years.[/QUOTE]
And to add onto that, the ending, unlike most main continuity series right now, was actually pretty hopeful and optimistic.
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This looks great[/QUOTE]
Holy sh... i wish i had the money to buy this right now.
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This looks great[/QUOTE]
...I'm about to become one of those otaku
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I love them both
What have been the standout runs/storylines during the Rebirth era for everyone? I just finished the Dick/Babs/Raptor issue. Trying not to get too far ahead, since I’m still waiting for the Red Hood books to arrive (1-25 should be here tomorrow).
The Raptor issues are the best Nightwing stuff during Rebirth.
The collectibles are looking good. Nearly as good as the samurai collectible. :p
[QUOTE=Shadowcat;5228278]What have been the standout runs/storylines during the Rebirth era for everyone? I just finished the Dick/Babs/Raptor issue. Trying not to get too far ahead, since I’m still waiting for the Red Hood books to arrive (1-25 should be here tomorrow).[/QUOTE]
I agree with Godlike13 that the Raptor arcs are great. Especially the first “two” arcs that are basically one arc. The later issues were good too but not as outstanding.
Though for me Humphries’ arc is the best of Rebirth. I read it collected, which might have added to my enjoyment. The villain was great (and should come back), the supporting characters stood out, especially Guppy, and Detective Svoboda was given some spotlight, which only felt right.
I also think Nightwing #9 and #43 are great single-issue stories. As are most stories that focus on Dick’s non-bat-relationships.
I struggle with the Humphries’ arc. It kind of repeated the same loop, and didn't really accomplish or say anything with Dick. Except for the Gym thing. Which was like, ehh, not exactly my favorite perception on Dick to lean on. But Judge was interesting and it did try to add and build on the new Bludhaven.
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5229053]I struggle with the Humphries’ arc. It kind of repeated the same loop, and didn't really accomplish or say anything with Dick. Except for the Gym thing. Which was like, ehh, not exactly my favorite perception on Dick to lean on. But Judge was interesting and it did try to add and build on the new Bludhaven.[/QUOTE]
We didn’t exactly see that one thru
If the Judge arc had kept Chang on the whole time it would have gone down as one of my favorites and an instant recommendation. Instead, it was merely rather enjoyable.
So much of what sold it for me was Chang's vibrant art. The neon pinks of his Blüdhaven perfectly compliment his light blue suit. For what it's worth, the Judge's look was so slick that it got me to start listening to Father John Misty's music for a bit.
Better Than Batman and Rise of the Raptor are by far the best Nightwing stories of the Rebirth era, and quite possibly ever.
Speaking about the art. I think both Better Than Batman/Rise of Raptor and The Untouchable suffer a bit because they didn't get the creme de la creme of art, but the former at least had Fernandez for the whole arc(s). Chang's and Campbell's art didn't complement each other very well.
That being said The Judge arc/The Untouchable pretty much encompasses to me who Dick Grayson is in a lot of ways. It helps that it spotlights Dick as Robin and as Nightwing (+ his college time). It's my comfort TPB, lol.
I wonder if Raptor was partially so impactful because Seeley doesn't often invent completely new characters? He was primarily the one to bring all the Wildstorm characters into Grayson, King and he used a lot of older characters to fill Spyral, then he tried to reinvent the pre-existing Blüd characters and even Pigeon wasn't entirely new...
[QUOTE=Avi;5229862]Speaking about the art. I think both Better Than Batman/Rise of Raptor and The Untouchable suffer a bit because they didn't get the creme de la creme of art, but the former at least had Fernandez for the whole arc(s). Chang's and Campbell's art didn't complement each other very well.
That being said The Judge arc/The Untouchable pretty much encompasses to me who Dick Grayson is in a lot of ways. It helps that it spotlights Dick as Robin and as Nightwing (+ his college time). It's my comfort TPB, lol.
I wonder if Raptor was partially so impactful because Seeley doesn't often invent completely new characters? He was primarily the one to bring all the Wildstorm characters into Grayson, King and he used a lot of older characters to fill Spyral, then he tried to reinvent the pre-existing Blüd characters and even Pigeon wasn't entirely new...[/QUOTE]
I can't remember who it was who speculated that "Better Than Batman" was a repurposing of the plans for a later arc of "Grayson", with Tiger in the Raptor role. Charismatic older man who's not from Bruce's world of privilege who earns Dick's - and the readers' - respect before dragging Dick into murkier and murkier waters...
Found it quite a convincing theory at the time - and I'm sure there was some talk early on in Grayson that there was a long term plan to give Dick a definitive Villain, at about the same time they were bringing Tiger in.
I just hope if dick is to keep bludhaven that DC at least let bludhaven keep its Vegas look and feel. It give bludhaven an identity of its own.
[QUOTE=Avi;5229862]Speaking about the art. I think both Better Than Batman/Rise of Raptor and The Untouchable suffer a bit because they didn't get the creme de la creme of art, but the former at least had Fernandez for the whole arc(s). Chang's and Campbell's art didn't complement each other very well.
That being said The Judge arc/The Untouchable pretty much encompasses to me who Dick Grayson is in a lot of ways. It helps that it spotlights Dick as Robin and as Nightwing (+ his college time). It's my comfort TPB, lol.
I wonder if Raptor was partially so impactful because Seeley doesn't often invent completely new characters? He was primarily the one to bring all the Wildstorm characters into Grayson, King and he used a lot of older characters to fill Spyral, then he tried to reinvent the pre-existing Blüd characters and even Pigeon wasn't entirely new...[/QUOTE]
Fernandez is one of my favorite Nightwing artists. His pencils could be a but rushed sometimes due to semi-monthly shipping, but his storytelling was and is superb. The final issue of Rise of the Raptor he absolutely killed it. His recent Nightwing commissions on Twitter have been amazing, I'd love to have him back sometime. I loved Chang as well, I'd take him back too in a heartbeat.
[QUOTE=Claude;5229909]I can't remember who it was who speculated that "Better Than Batman" was a repurposing of the plans for a later arc of "Grayson", with Tiger in the Raptor role. Charismatic older man who's not from Bruce's world of privilege who earns Dick's - and the readers' - respect before dragging Dick into murkier and murkier waters...
Found it quite a convincing theory at the time - and I'm sure there was some talk early on in Grayson that there was a long term plan to give Dick a definitive Villain, at about the same time they were bringing Tiger in.[/QUOTE]
I was and am still pretty big on this theory. As a big fan of Grayson, I would love to see more of Tiger in Nightwing. The question now is how to handle him. Should he be a partner like in Rise of the Raptor, or should Spyral be returned to a semi-antagonistic organization that Dick competes with?
FUTURE STATE: NIGHTWING #2
written by ANDREW CONSTANT
art by NICOLA SCOTT
cover by YASMINE PUTRI
card stock variant cover by NICOLA SCOTT
ON SALE 2/16/21
$3.99 US | 32 PAGES | 2 OF 2 | FC | DC
CARD STOCK COVER $4.99 US
It's an all-new dynamic for the Dynamic Duo when Nightwing and Gotham's mysterious new Batman join forces against the Magistrate. But when the totalitarian force controlling the city declares the two heroes their primary targets, Nightwing will need to call on the full force of his hidden resistance, including two Batgirls, Huntress, and Two-Face! But even then, will it be enough? Find out in this action-packed conclusion!
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I don't know how all of the Nightwing solicitations get posted here before I can find the whole solicits anywhere online, but I do appreciate it! Still not super interested in Nightwing: Future State beyond Scott's art. But I am looking forward to the Titans one.
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5230038]I don't know how all of the Nightwing solicitations get posted here before I can find the whole solicits anywhere online, but I do appreciate it! Still not super interested in Nightwing: Future State beyond Scott's art. But I am looking forward to the Titans one.[/QUOTE]
I follow Newsarama on twitter, they usually the first site to post the solicits.
[url]https://www.gamesradar.com/dc-future-state-batman-february-2021-solicitations-and-covers-revealed/[/url]
I remember the rumors and speculations that surrounded Tiger and before Rebirth entered the picture I thought I could see the path they were going for, and Raptor and him definitely aren't that different in their thinking. I think team-ups with Tiger could go both ways depending on the situation and the goal either of them follows.
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5229993]Fernandez is one of my favorite Nightwing artists. His pencils could be a but rushed sometimes due to semi-monthly shipping, but his storytelling was and is superb. The final issue of Rise of the Raptor he absolutely killed it. His recent Nightwing commissions on Twitter have been amazing, I'd love to have him back sometime. I loved Chang as well, I'd take him back too in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]
That's true. Fernandez definitely knew how to tell a story through art even then and he has only improved since. Another artist of that "era" I wouldn't mind seeing again is Minkyu Jung.
[QUOTE=Drako;5230028] It's an all-new dynamic for the Dynamic Duo when Nightwing and Gotham's mysterious new Batman join forces against the Magistrate. But when the totalitarian force controlling the city declares the two heroes their primary targets, Nightwing will need to call on the full force of his hidden resistance, including [B]two Batgirls, Huntress, and Two-Face![/B] But even then, will it be enough? Find out in this action-packed conclusion![/QUOTE]
The solicitation has me slightly more intrigued, but only slightly. I've sorely missed Helena and Dick interacting and the other three should be interesting as well. Especially if the Batgirls are Cass and Steph. At least it'll be a pretty Issue much like the January one.
I hope spyral comes back, such a cool corner of the dcu nightwing could make his own.
Previews for Nightwing #76:
[url]https://aiptcomics.com/2020/11/13/dc-preview-nightwing-76/[/url]
and Teen Titans #47 (with narration from Dick):
[url]https://aiptcomics.com/2020/11/13/dc-preview-teen-titans-47/[/url]
They lost me at "Why me? Why am I getting shot? Why not Batman"
So I'm guessing Dick's narration of TT will be connected to the Last Tales and FS? If they say the thing missing is teaching, then they might as well just say "we need to be the X-Men".
In the last weeks most of the books I have read have had some breaking the 4th wall and calling storylines out... The problem with Nightwing is that they just continue to be the problem and try to say "look how self-aware we are! Give us praise!" or at least that's how it seems to me.
[QUOTE=Digifiend;5231050]Previews for Nightwing #76:
[url]https://aiptcomics.com/2020/11/13/dc-preview-nightwing-76/[/url][/QUOTE]
This is so bad. So let’s show for the 100th time how KG Beast shot Dick, that he was this guy that calculated and sniped Dick from however far away with out a word. But now here he is monologuing how he wants to shoot him. Why is he not shooting him then. What the hell is he waiting for there lol. This is so dumb. This just like with Cobb. Under Jurgens villains just become boring mustache twirling cliches that don’t make any sense. But that’s just how Jurgens is conditioned to write his bad guys, so that’s how he writes them. Even if it’s complete nonsense and uncharacteristic.
Nightwing will be in Death Metal #7. And he might actually get to do something?
[url]https://twitter.com/GregCapullo/status/1328030642379100161[/url]
[QUOTE=Avi;5233712]Nightwing will be in Death Metal #7. And he might actually get to do something?
[url]https://twitter.com/GregCapullo/status/1328030642379100161[/url][/QUOTE]
Woo! They've been leaning *heavily* on the fact that the current Justice League arc with him will have an impact on the end of the event, so hopefully this is a sign of that importance.
[QUOTE=Avi;5233712]Nightwing will be in Death Metal #7. And he might actually get to do something?
[url]https://twitter.com/GregCapullo/status/1328030642379100161[/url][/QUOTE]
No, he probably won't do anything other than what is shown in that image. Just be in a few panels fighting the Robin creatures. Just like with Metal, Death metal isn't a story where Nightwing has any kind of role in it. So I wouldn't go in expecting anything or get your hopes up. After this long we know who the story is focusing on and that isn't going to change last minute before the end.
I finally read [I]Nightwing: Year One[/I].
My random thoughts:
- Is there any way to write a Batman and Robin breakup that doesn't end up making Batman look like a jerk? I guess not. I guess it's in-line with [I]Robin: Year One[/I] but he didn't feel that bad in [I]Batgirl: Year One. [/I] That Robin anniversary story kind of had a nice twist where Bruce intentionally drove Dick away to help him grow, but I don't think that's what Dixon was going for here.
- Matt Hagen had a kid? Huh.
- I feel bad that Alfred gets stuck mediating between his kids.
- When was the last time Dick and Boston Brand interacted?
- I'd kind of prefer Bruce bringing Jason to the fold didn't involve practically kidnapping him...
- Nightwing and Batgirl's "date" was fun, even though it seemed like Dick was 100% okay with cheating on Kori up until Babs put a stop to it. Actually, considering what we know happens later on, I guess he was always comfortable cheating on Kori with Babs when it came down to it.
- Babs follows "orders" better than Dick does? I kind of got that sense. Especially when she went along with the plan to pit Dick and Jason against each other for the "challenge" by basically tricking him.
- First chronological appearance of Killer Croc was kind of random, but I guess it was a nod to the time when Croc was more of a crime boss than he is now.
- I kind of see where fans come from with the issue of them re-contexualizing Jason as a "too confident" Robin who didn't take it seriously enough, but Dick did admit he thought Jason had the chops to be Robin by the end.
- So, chronologically, where does this fit in with Judas Contract? Was Dick already Nightwing when Slade attacked him? Did he finish his business in Gotham and then rush off to save the Titans from HIVE?
There was that Detective Comics #1027 with Dick and Deadman.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5234251]I finally read [I]Nightwing: Year One[/I].
My random thoughts:
- Is there any way to write a Batman and Robin breakup that doesn't end up making Batman look like a jerk? I guess not. I guess it's in-line with [I]Robin: Year One[/I] but he didn't feel that bad in [I]Batgirl: Year One. [/I] That Robin anniversary story kind of had a nice twist where Bruce intentionally drove Dick away to help him grow, but I don't think that's what Dixon was going for here.
- Matt Hagen had a kid? Huh.
- I feel bad that Alfred gets stuck mediating between his kids.
- When was the last time Dick and Boston Brand interacted?
- I'd kind of prefer Bruce bringing Jason to the fold didn't involve practically kidnapping him...
- Nightwing and Batgirl's "date" was fun, even though it seemed like Dick was 100% okay with cheating on Kori up until Babs put a stop to it. Actually, considering what we know happens later on, I guess he was always comfortable cheating on Kori with Babs when it came down to it.
- Babs follows "orders" better than Dick does? I kind of got that sense. Especially when she went along with the plan to pit Dick and Jason against each other for the "challenge" by basically tricking him.
- First chronological appearance of Killer Croc was kind of random, but I guess it was a nod to the time when Croc was more of a crime boss than he is now.
- I kind of see where fans come from with the issue of them re-contexualizing Jason as a "too confident" Robin who didn't take it seriously enough, but Dick did admit he thought Jason had the chops to be Robin by the end.
- So, chronologically, where does this fit in with Judas Contract? Was Dick already Nightwing when Slade attacked him? Did he finish his business in Gotham and then rush off to save the Titans from HIVE?[/QUOTE]
It doeasn't fit t all. Nor Batman, nor Barbara, nor Jason fit in Dick's live at the time he became Nightwing, it was a bad idea forced them in it. All of suden is not about growth but manipulation and betrayal. Awful story all around.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5234251]I finally read [I]Nightwing: Year One[/I].
My random thoughts:
- Is there any way to write a Batman and Robin breakup that doesn't end up making Batman look like a jerk? I guess not. I guess it's in-line with [I]Robin: Year One[/I] but he didn't feel that bad in [I]Batgirl: Year One. [/I] That Robin anniversary story kind of had a nice twist where Bruce intentionally drove Dick away to help him grow, but I don't think that's what Dixon was going for here.[/QUOTE]
Pre-Crisis was probably the closest we'd get, at least because [B]both[/B] Bruce and Dick were kind of acting like jerks and then talked it out like adults towards the end. Just reading the first chapter of this was enough to make me put the book down in disgust.
The Robin anniversary story was an improvement in comparison, but still not ideal.
[QUOTE=SiegePerilous02;5234478]Pre-Crisis was probably the closest we'd get, at least because [B]both[/B] Bruce and Dick were kind of acting like jerks and then talked it out like adults towards the end. Just reading the first chapter of this was enough to make me put the book down in disgust.
The Robin anniversary story was an improvement in comparison, but still not ideal.[/QUOTE]
I mean, I think there was enough good in the story in-spite of that, but it's definitely not my favorite take on Bruce and Dick's relationship.
I didn't like Nightwing Year One. It just felt like such a big swing and miss compared to some of the other Year One series. Robin Year One wasn't perfect but good enough and Batgirl Year One was great I thought. The two read well together, but I hate how Nightwing Year One is still the default origin in most cases and completely took the agency from Dick's character. I find the whole thing just frustrating. Judas Contract being in continuity post crisis was always a bit weird. At times it felt like it was, or some version of it at least, but then with Nightwing it wasn't. We are still dealing with it now given that Lazarus Contract was their attempt at rewriting it for Rebirth. Nightwing's whole origin is such a mess now.
Anyway, something I do kind of like is the Nightwing costume in the Teen Titans Future State series. No interest in the series itself but the costume I like, haha. Hasn't been posted here I think and we get a better shot of it in the recent solicits. I think going back to the gold and blue color scheme while using New 52 design looks really fresh. It changes the feel from the mostly black design that I've gotten frustrated with lately. I don't like the blue on the current costume being so thin and I always disliked the bird motif on the Nightwing costumes or logo. The bird stuff to me always made it feel like a Robin derivative. Like they think "Dick was Robin before so obviously his new costume and identity should be bird related too". If that is their mindset then Dick should never have given up Robin in the first place. It's like when they wanted to make Nightwing red so all the current and former Robins would be red like Robin is. Just not a fan of it.
But with how awful the Ric story was Dick needs something fresh to put that whole disaster behind him. So a new costume with a new color scheme like the one here I think could be really fun.
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future state looks fun
JL was, I don’t know. Look I like the character arc with Dick there, though not actually being tasked with this mission was a blow, but with these last 2 years as Ric I guess he shouldn’t have. He’s sucks, we get it, you guys won. Just maybe stop selling him then. Cause it’s just mean. Anyway, the character arc was cool and fair, but then they just ditch him for what this story means for Metal. So ya, the character arc was nice and all, it was the best Nightwing we got in a while, but in the end it was just goes nowhere appeasement. Someone left with name recognition to hold down JL while everyone is busy in Metal. Plus it just further convinces me that I don’t want Nightwing on the JL. It misses the point. There were so many opportunities to build the Titans up with this but no. Whatever. I guess for me JL was bittersweet.
Nightwing was just trash. Honestly I’m out of words. It’s just more of the same awful crap from the same tapped out creator who is way past giving a crap. Poor Bruce was written so poorly too.
[QUOTE=Badou;5234797]I didn't like Nightwing Year One. It just felt like such a big swing and miss compared to some of the other Year One series. Robin Year One wasn't perfect but good enough and Batgirl Year One was great I thought. The two read well together, but I hate how Nightwing Year One is still the default origin in most cases and completely took the agency from Dick's character. I find the whole thing just frustrating. Judas Contract being in continuity post crisis was always a bit weird. At times it felt like it was, or some version of it at least, but then with Nightwing it wasn't. We are still dealing with it now given that Lazarus Contract was their attempt at rewriting it for Rebirth. Nightwing's whole origin is such a mess now.
Anyway, something I do kind of like is the Nightwing costume in the Teen Titans Future State series. No interest in the series itself but the costume I like, haha. Hasn't been posted here I think and we get a better shot of it in the recent solicits. I think going back to the gold and blue color scheme while using New 52 design looks really fresh. It changes the feel from the mostly black design that I've gotten frustrated with lately. I don't like the blue on the current costume being so thin and I always disliked the bird motif on the Nightwing costumes or logo. The bird stuff to me always made it feel like a Robin derivative. Like they think "Dick was Robin before so obviously his new costume and identity should be bird related too". If that is their mindset then Dick should never have given up Robin in the first place. It's like when they wanted to make Nightwing red so all the current and former Robins would be red like Robin is. Just not a fan of it.
But with how awful the Ric story was Dick needs something fresh to put that whole disaster behind him. So a new costume with a new color scheme like the one here I think could be really fun.
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I saw people advocating for him to have some yellow in his costume when this redesign by Kal Huset was circulating around on the internet and i actually agree.
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About the comics today, Justice League was good, but overal this mini arc didn't do much for me. I still want Williamson writing Nightwing in some capacity.
Nightwing wasn't THAT bad, they finaly closed the arc with Bea and Dick beat KGBeast pretty easly. You can cleary see Jurgens closing the door on this stupid run. Just one more to go.
Door should have been slammed shut already. Dragging their feet to close the door at this point is just another technique to drag it out even further, and keep from delivering any actual satisfaction to whatever readers are still left. They are not even closing it right, that’s why it was a bad idea to give Ric’s creators the last word as their perception on it has been off from the start. What Dick said to Bea should be the the truth, but instead they make it the lie so Dick could be the tortured hero like Batman they kept saying he wasn’t. I laughed seeing Dick cry. Seriously. First thing that came to my mind was his tears look delicious as he cries over his life lost as Ric. Get a clue already Ric writers. Crying over anything about Ric is so out of touch and at this point it’s just counterproductive. Dick ending the last remnant of Ric is something to be celebrated, not mourned. But we are never gonna get that from Ric’s writers. Cause that would be an awareness of their failure as creators.
Any momentum Dick’s return had is now pretty much dead so a going nowhere creator can close out his failed, all time lows, run. And there is still yet at least one more to go.
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5234960] I laughed seeing Dick cry. First thing that came to my mind was his tears are delicious as he cries over his life lost as Ric.[/QUOTE]
What a weird sentence.
I'm over being mad over this, there is no point for me. I'm just waiting to see what is next. December will have the end of Jurgens run and the solicits from March.
Let's see what they have in store for us.