What’s next is more Jurgens.
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What’s next is more Jurgens.
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5234989]What’s next is more Jurgens.[/QUOTE]
Well, if this is true, then i just quit reading comics, at least Nightwing comics. I did it before, i can do it again.
It’s factually true. What’s next is another issue by Jurgens. What comes after that is Future State, and then it’s who knows but given the shape DC is in its a real bad time for Nightwing to be in such a poor marketability state. Jurgens closing out the year is what’s next with Nightwing though. Which is ridiculous that he’s even doing that given his performance on the title. And just can’t bode well.
What appears to be next is Professor Grayson at Titans Academy....or whatever they will end up calling it. And if you think that is just a reference to Future State then go look up the ending to today's issue of Teen Titans.
Rather see try to find Damian, then jump on the Damian is bad bandwagon. He’s not really in a better position then Damian to offer or teach anyone anything. Which Future State looks like it will demonstrate...
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5234960]Door should have been slammed shut already. Dragging their feet to close the door at this point is just another technique to drag it out even further, and keep from delivering any actual satisfaction to whatever readers are still left. They are not even closing it right, that’s why it was a bad idea to give Ric’s creators the last word as their perception on it has been off from the start. What Dick said to Bea should be the the truth, but instead they make it the lie so Dick could be the tortured hero like Batman they kept saying he wasn’t. I laughed seeing Dick cry. Seriously. First thing that came to my mind was his tears look delicious as he cries over his life lost as Ric. Get a clue already Ric writers. Crying over anything about Ric is so out of touch and at this point it’s just counterproductive. Dick ending the last remnant of Ric is something to be celebrated, not mourned. But we are never gonna get that from Ric’s writers. Cause that would be an awareness of their failure as creators.
Any momentum Dick’s return had is now pretty much dead so a going nowhere creator can close out his failed, all time lows, run. And there is still yet at least one more to go.[/QUOTE]
They shoulda just saved his return for March in all honesty. Might've actually been able to do something with it instead of everybody just spinning their wheels until Future Slate starts.
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5235007]Rather see try to find Damian, then jump on the Damian is bad bandwagon. He’s not really in a better position then Damian to offer or teach anyone anything. Which Future State looks like it will demonstrate...[/QUOTE]
Don't bash Dick for what he said and did on TT. He's just went amnesic, then when he came back he got note from Damian, and looks like his little brother entrusted them to him. The only chance he can know and assess the situation is only from Damian's note, and we don't know what was written on there (and also on Jon's note, which is frustrating. I mean, if they want to make a plot about Damian controlled people around him with some pieces of paper, can we at least know what was on the paper?). By no means Dick said that Damian is bad on Teen Titans, probably Damian said that he forced TT members on his note, or maybe he recalled the time when Damian kidnapped Kory, Beast Boy, and Raven to make TT.
[QUOTE=Light of Justice;5115037]And that remind me of something. Look guys, I loves Damian with Dick as much as you all. I love their connection, and their strong brothership borderline father-son relationship at some point. I love and heavily adore Dick who accept Damian as he is to be his Robin, all his effort to change Damian toward goodness, and his genuine love for Damian. But we can't count on Dick to be Damian's moral support right now. We can't just hope Dick will take Damian on his wing after his collision with Bruce, understand his actions and feelings, just expect him to accept Damian's actions. Dick is not family's private therapist. Heck he didn't even as bubbly and as patient like fandom often portrayed. He has his own morality, and that morality for sure disagree with all Damian's act. Besides, one of Damian's method in this terrible run is mind-wiping, and on Ric saga, which is equally terrible if not more, he got amnesic, lose his basic self, and has been brainwashing 3 times (Scarecrow, Court of Owl, and Joker). Honestly I can't see how Dick will accept and handle all Damian did in TT run without disregarding his own trauma after Ric saga. If somehow that happened, then Dc is adamant to make Dick Holy Saint or something.
Damian's problem is started with Bruce and has to end by Bruce. I love Damian but I also love Dick, so I don't want Dick to get roped into Damian and Bruce's mess, especially just after he gets his life back. It's like the time when people expect Dick to handle Jason's trauma, which is sadly I've encountered many of them. On Morrison run people want Dick to handle Jason's trauma and murderous rampage with power of love and family, and became angry when Dickbats put Jason in Arkham Asylum instead (which is actually a reasonable act on his capability as someone who tried to fill Bruce's presence on the cowl.
On this thread, people's expectation for Dick to somehow fix Damian is honestly makes me wary, I am just afraid if Dick has negative response for Damian's act (which is understandable with his morality and after all the shit he went through), people will get heartbroken and turn to hate Dick instead.[/QUOTE]
And I've said it before on Damian's thread, don't count on Dick to bring Damian back or somehow fix Damian's problem. Damian is Bruce's responsibilities, and Dick just healed from his amnesic. Dick needs to sort his own life back first.
I’m not counting on Dick to bring Damian back, DC wants to continue this Damian is bad bull, I’d just prefer to see it as Dick has made Damian his responsibility before. He’s the one who open the door for Damian, so one could argue Damian is also his responsibility. Dick had compassion for Damian before anyone else ever did, and invested in Damian. So there is precedence with Damian unlike with Jason.
But yes, Dick should sort out his own shambled life before he offers to try and teach others how to live theirs. Especially a bunch a kids who rescued the dude who shot Dick in the head so he can attack him yet again...
[QUOTE=Badou;5234797]I didn't like Nightwing Year One. It just felt like such a big swing and miss compared to some of the other Year One series. Robin Year One wasn't perfect but good enough and Batgirl Year One was great I thought. The two read well together, but I hate how Nightwing Year One is still the default origin in most cases and completely took the agency from Dick's character. I find the whole thing just frustrating. Judas Contract being in continuity post crisis was always a bit weird. At times it felt like it was, or some version of it at least, but then with Nightwing it wasn't. We are still dealing with it now given that Lazarus Contract was their attempt at rewriting it for Rebirth. Nightwing's whole origin is such a mess now.
Anyway, something I do kind of like is the Nightwing costume in the Teen Titans Future State series. No interest in the series itself but the costume I like, haha. Hasn't been posted here I think and we get a better shot of it in the recent solicits. I think going back to the gold and blue color scheme while using New 52 design looks really fresh. It changes the feel from the mostly black design that I've gotten frustrated with lately. I don't like the blue on the current costume being so thin and I always disliked the bird motif on the Nightwing costumes or logo. The bird stuff to me always made it feel like a Robin derivative. Like they think "Dick was Robin before so obviously his new costume and identity should be bird related too". If that is their mindset then Dick should never have given up Robin in the first place. It's like when they wanted to make Nightwing red so all the current and former Robins would be red like Robin is. Just not a fan of it.
But with how awful the Ric story was Dick needs something fresh to put that whole disaster behind him. So a new costume with a new color scheme like the one here I think could be really fun.
[img]https://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Future-State-Teen-Titans-2-Cover-Red-X.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Red x all buff and big is weird lol
Haven't read Teen Titans yet and it doesn't seem as if I will want to. What a bunch of bs. And Nightwing is just tiring.
Justice League ended quite well, I think. It was enjoyable through to the end, which I can't say about a lot of other stories. Especially not Dick stories. I'd actually like to read one more Issue of these characters as JL working independently from Lex. I think they have potential. The JL worship Dick showed throughout the book wasn't my thing, though. He should have been in the hero game far sooner than at least half of them.
I agree that a little gold in Dick's costume would be great.
I feel like I was supposed to care that he dropped old girl but I didn't........ Also am I the only one who doesn't care for the multiple Nightwings concept? I miss the Grayson days...
[QUOTE=Badou;5234797]I didn't like Nightwing Year One. It just felt like such a big swing and miss compared to some of the other Year One series. Robin Year One wasn't perfect but good enough and Batgirl Year One was great I thought. The two read well together, but I hate how Nightwing Year One is still the default origin in most cases and completely took the agency from Dick's character. I find the whole thing just frustrating. Judas Contract being in continuity post crisis was always a bit weird. At times it felt like it was, or some version of it at least, but then with Nightwing it wasn't. We are still dealing with it now given that Lazarus Contract was their attempt at rewriting it for Rebirth. Nightwing's whole origin is such a mess now.[/QUOTE]
Felt like the whole point of the story was Dick taking back his own agency, it just threw Bruce under the bus to do it.
[QUOTE=Drako;5234946]I saw people advocating for him to have some yellow in his costume when this redesign by Kal Huset was circulating around on the internet and i actually agree.
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About the comics today, Justice League was good, but overal this mini arc didn't do much for me. I still want Williamson writing Nightwing in some capacity.
Nightwing wasn't THAT bad, they finaly closed the arc with Bea and Dick beat KGBeast pretty easly. You can cleary see Jurgens closing the door on this stupid run. Just one more to go.[/QUOTE]
I think this could work as a modernized Discowing costume.
[QUOTE=Rac7d*;5235067]Red x all buff and big is weird lol[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;5235010]They shoulda just saved his return for March in all honesty. Might've actually been able to do something with it instead of everybody just spinning their wheels until Future Slate starts.[/QUOTE]
The sceptic in me feels like the timing was more to gain goodwill for Tynion's Batman moreso than DC/BatOffice looking out for Dick's character.
The additional manipulation by Joker wasn't necessary and his return being tied to Joker War wasn't how I would have preferred it
Oh, Nightwing was also in Gotham Nights today.
[QUOTE=Drako;5235566]Oh, Nightwing was also in Gotham Nights today.[/QUOTE]
Thanks of the heads-up, haven't been regularly picking that up since Russell left.
It's an interesting showing for Dick - on the one hand, it's basically a "dynamic duo" story with Dick as sidekick/partner rather than a solo hero guesting. On the other hand, he isn't made to look incompetent and in at least one area is significantly more knowledgeable than Bruce.
[spoil]For my money, that's the real benefit of the Titans in Dick's mythology - that he would casually just know more about space and aliens than Bruce would, because one his closest friends/significant girlfriends was one.[/spoil]
My morbid curiosity always getting the better of me because I'm a NIGHTWING fan, I did check out this KGBeast issue. And while it hit all the most dumb predictable beats, giving a full circle "unrevegengeance" moment where Nightwing beats up the Beast and cracks a joke, breaking the tension ... then proceeds to do to Bea what he's done to literally every girlfriend he's ever had in comics ... it just joins the long list of "wrapping up, moving on" stagnant runs of Nightwing, which sadly are more the norm. I feel like Nightwing spends more time as a book treading water than having inspired runs full of cool storytelling and creative choices. And that goes back ages. Hell, that goes back to Bronze Age Robin backups and New Teen Titans stories where everyone else in the gang has more interesting stories going on and Dick is just upon occasion disappearing, appearing to have changed his code of honor, but actually is just going undercover into whichever HIVE/Blood/Cult/Gang they're up against.
But the art was really nice in all three of the Nightwing appearances this week. Nice little reunion with the penciller from Tim Seeley's run, gorgeous (even with the ridiculous Metal costumes) JL art, and this was pretty pretty also.
Bea was fine, but just because the association with the Ric run, I'm not invested in the relationship. Now they closing off Ric lose threads I hope he can find a new groove somewhere.
[QUOTE=Journey;5235193]I feel like I was supposed to care that he dropped old girl but I didn't........ Also am I the only one who doesn't care for the multiple Nightwings concept? I miss the Grayson days...[/QUOTE]
I kinda figured things were about to end between them. And I didn't expect to feel bad for her...But man that was a shitty way to let her go. And a shitty reason too. Like...No, Dick. Alfred was right. Bruce was wrong. You have several heroes who could easily prove him wrong, one of whom is your best friend. Don't start with that "Heroes can't find love with normal people" bullshit. Especially when she's not [I]that[/I] normal.
Ugggh...I wanted her to go away, and she did...But I don't like how she did lol
Bea was garbage. A complete nothing character that offered nothing to the story. I'll never understand why people defend her. She had no character beyond being "nice" and Dick magically fell deeply in love with her to the point where she was somehow the most important person to him in his life. It was completely unbelievable. Nothing was built up with their relationship and she has about as much depth as a spoon. At least with a Shawn she had some layers to her where she felt like an actual character but Bea had nothing. She is a textbook example of how not to create a love interest, imo.
The whole issue was just pathetic. Two fucking years of this Ric nonsense and they can't even get the return of him being Dick again right. Still not one moment where Dick is BACK and HAPPY to have his memories returned to him. It's still him just wallowing in his own misery and missing his life as Ric. Jurgens doesn't get it at all. It's been two issues now where Dick is basically sad to be Nightwing again. Is Jurgens trying to make the reader feel bittersweet about Dick's time as Ric? WHO CARES! What kind of fan wants to read that after 2 years of awful stories with Ric? Dick being back should have been a celebration not Dick being sad and crying that he can't be with the "love of his life" Bea because he is a superhero again. He was basically running around as a superhero as Ric while with her, but now it is an issue? I'm thrilled to be rid of her and the dumb Nightwings, and KGBeast was pathetic like usual, but that whole mess with Alfred was just bizarre. So the only thing Dick learned from this whole disaster is that he can't be happy and have normal relationships just like Batman? That should put the nail in the coffin for those who think Jurgens understands Dick's character at all. I guess now Dick wont ever date anyone that isn't a super powered character that can take care of themselves now, right? lol
As for Justice League it went as expected. The whole thing was just filler for the Death Metal event and had no real impact on the story. Him giving commands was nice as that was as competent as he has looked probably since the New 52 started, but it was the typical "the actual JL are gone so Dick steps in to act as a substitute" story that we've seen many times before. My big issue with it is I disliked how it made Dick seem like such a child looking up to the JL like they are adults and he is still some kid. I hate that dynamic. I want Dick to look at the JL characters and think of them as equals. That he is confident in himself and believes he is just as good as they are. It is why I want Dick to be a full JL member and have a seat at the table because he deserves it instead of only being at the table when they are gone. Hell, I'd love for him to demand a position instead of being handed it even, but it doesn't really matter as Dick will never be a full JL member. So it is a bit meaningless for me to harp on it.
[QUOTE=K. Jones;5235761]My morbid curiosity always getting the better of me because I'm a NIGHTWING fan, I did check out this KGBeast issue. And while it hit all the most dumb predictable beats, giving a full circle "unrevegengeance" moment where Nightwing beats up the Beast and cracks a joke, breaking the tension ... [/QUOTE]I'm wondering if the writer even researched KGBeast, compared to "Ten Nights of the Beast" he was a total Joke in this issue.
Not just this issue. KGBeast is pretty much the Batfamily's new punching bag now. First Bruce had a whack at him. Then Damian. Then Dick. Who's next? Jason? Tim? Batcow?
[QUOTE=Badou;5236062]that whole mess with Alfred was just bizarre. So the only thing Dick learned from this whole disaster is that he can't be happy and have normal relationships just like Batman? That should put the nail in the coffin for those who think Jurgens understands Dick's character at all.
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Nail RIGHT on the head.
So let me get this right. Dick broke up with bea because he realized that relationships with civilians don't work for him. Is that right?
[QUOTE=WonderNight;5236084]So let me get this right. Dick broke up with bea because he realized that relationships with civilians don't work for him. Is that right?[/QUOTE]
That, along with some BS about how he's just like Bruce and that means he "can't be happy". The same nonsensical reason Selina left Bruce at the altar.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5236078]Not just this issue. KGBeast is pretty much the Batfamily's new punching bag now. First Bruce had a whack at him. Then Damian. Then Dick. [/QUOTE]That's of course true.
But when it comes to Dick, I think has been for a few years trend to have him overcome even pretty powerfull opponents way to easy, and that takes imo away a lot of tension from his stories.
In Jurgens defense if I spent such and such a lot of time putting my time and effort writing a story, ain't no way I'm gonna shit on it in the final chapters Ric was his baby of course he want's this time to mean something, it doesn't but I understand that he wants it too Lol.
[QUOTE=Journey;5236218]In Jurgens defense if I spent such and such a lot of time putting my time and effort writing a story, ain't no way I'm gonna shit on it in the final chapters Ric was his baby of course he want's this time to mean something, it doesn't but I understand that he wants it too Lol.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm torn - on the one hand, it seems to be objectively a good thing to close out the arc properly after two years - take the time to tie everything off, just as a general principle. On the other hand, this run isn't worth the paper my digital copies are printed on - and it *still* sticks in my craw that "Grayson" didn't get the same courtesy!
Hopefully, *hopefully*, we'll get some exciting news in next month's remittances. The Justice League arc ended up a bit nothingy, but I'd still be on board for Williamson building something up - and maybe we're now reaching the point where Snyder's "Nightwing: Parabola" could plausibly start turning up?
[QUOTE=Aahz;5236131]That's of course true.
But when it comes to Dick, I think has been for a few years trend to have him overcome even pretty powerfull opponents way to easy, and that takes imo away a lot of tension from his stories.[/QUOTE]
It's like that with all the Batman family pretty much. With Bruce there are way too many to count, and Jason in his book has crazy feats as well. He's been running around with an Amazon and Bizarro so he's written in a way to be looked at as their "equal". Even in that Leviathan series by Bendis he had Jason take on Batman, Green Arrow, Damian, Plastic Man, and Manhunter all at the same time and beat them. Then of course there is Tim who is written as being smarter than everyone constantly. It isn't really a new thing. I mean Bruce, Babs, and Damain all beat up KGBeast before Dick did here, lol. It does suck that all the tension is gone from these fights though most of the time because no outcome is that surprising anymore.
I'd argue that Dick gets beaten up and embarrassed more than most from the group. The Grayson series was probably the run that gave Dick the most "feats" since the New 52, but Higgins run to start the New 52 was just Dick getting beaten up all the time and struggling to get by, then Dick got beaten up in Forever Evil by the Crime Syndicate, Grayson bumped up his abilities again where he fought some strong guys, but then Seeley's Nightwing run was a mixed bag. Nothing major there. Then of course there was Abnett's Titans run where Dick was beaten up there and made to look incompetent. Remember in Titans Hunt where Abnett had Dick run away from Donna and Garth in complete terror because they were super powered? Haha, it was bad. Then of course the Ric arc where Dick was manipulated and used by the Scarecrow, Talon and the Owls, and then the Joker. He's had a really rough go of it since Flashpoint.
[QUOTE=Journey;5236218]In Jurgens defense if I spent such and such a lot of time putting my time and effort writing a story, ain't no way I'm gonna shit on it in the final chapters Ric was his baby of course he want's this time to mean something, it doesn't but I understand that he wants it too Lol.[/QUOTE]
I mean Percy wrote the story first for an issue, and then Lobdell wrote it after him after campaigning for the Ric story to last longer behind the scenes and then left after an arc. Then Jurgens started on the Ric stuff. If anything Jurgens should have done the opposite of them, but he just leaned into their mess more and more over his run.
"I had only been Robin for a year when I snuck into the Justice League meeting"
Oh. *** you. You're messing with my timeline again. Though only one year makes sense. Okay. Here goes.
Batman Year One - 25-year-old Batman
Batman Year Two - Daughter of The Demon and Son of The Demon - Damian is conceived and born as soon as possible
Batman Year ??? - Death of The Flying Graysons - Dick was adopted as a child - by the art approximately age 10-13
Robin Training - Dick age 13-14
Robin Year One - Dick wears his first costume - the updated classic with pants - by the art approximate age is 14-15 - First encounter with Catwoman at the boat
Robin Year Two - Dick wears his New 52 costume - age approximately 15-16 - seeing The League
Teen Titans Year One - Dick age 16-17 - Very possibly he immediately formed Teen Titans after that
Nightwing Year One - Robin II Year One - No reference - Dick is at least 18 - Jason is 15-16
Robin III Year One - Death in The Family - A Lonely Place of Dying - Tim is 12 - Jason died at 16-17 - Immediately resurrected
Batman Year 11 At Minimum - Talia introduced Damian to Batman - Damian is 10 years old - Tim 13 - Batman Robin Reborn - Under The Red Hood
Batman Year 12 At Minimum - New 52 Year One - The Court of Owls - Damian 11 Tim 14
Batman Year 13 At Minimum - New 52 Year Two - Endgame - Damian 12 Tim 15
Batman Year 14 At Minimum - Rebirth Begins - Dark Knights Metal - Damian is 13 years old - Tim is 16 - Bruce is 39
Batman Year 15 at a minimum - Rebirth Year Two - Death Metal - Bruce is 40 - Damian 14 Tim 17 Jason 22?
Don't bother trying to figure it out. Death Metal is apparently going to break any hope of a chronology that fits (the characters are going to remember their entire publication history. Even stuff like the post-Crisis stories written to overwrite stuff from pre-Crisis).
Holding the timeline loosely and thinking about this as mythology more than a tight history will also probably save more than a few grey or lost hairs.
Shut up and let me have my fun
[QUOTE=sifighter;5235004]What appears to be next is Professor Grayson at Titans Academy....or whatever they will end up calling it. And if you think that is just a reference to Future State then go look up the ending to today's issue of Teen Titans.[/QUOTE]That issue doesn't refer to an academy. Only the New Teen Titans welcoming the current team to Titans Tower. Which sounds more like the 2003 set-up where the rookies (the Young Justice team) were mentored by the veterans (Cyborg, Beast Boy).
[QUOTE=Digifiend;5237154]That issue doesn't refer to an academy. Only the New Teen Titans welcoming the current team to Titans Tower. Which sounds more like the 2003 set-up where the rookies (the Young Justice team) were mentored by the veterans (Cyborg, Beast Boy).[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Now that I have read the Issue I feel as if this isn't something entirely new and the next two Titans-related stories won't be as X-Men-y as FS will be. Tying the Titans together might actually turn into a good thing. No least for Dick. Though it still felt out of character to see Dick present Damian like that. I can see him saying he isn't like Damian as a way to manipulate the Titans, but that's A) not what his goal should be and B) the older Titans lose their chance to be better than the League. Overall it seems like a push for independence that is being very strangely and illogically archived.
[QUOTE=Avi;5237202]Yeah. Now that I have read the Issue I feel as if this isn't something entirely new and the next two Titans-related stories won't be as X-Men-y as FS will be. Tying the Titans together might actually turn into a good thing. No least for Dick. Though it still felt out of character to see Dick present Damian like that. I can see him saying he isn't like Damian as a way to manipulate the Titans, but that's A) not what his goal should be and B) the older Titans lose their chance to be better than the League. Overall it seems like a push for independence that is being very strangely and illogically archived.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if it's less a big mass of All Titans Ever, and instead an eight-person team of Dick, Donna, Cyborg, Beast Boy, Roundhouse, Crush, Red Arrow and Kid Flash that seems a very different thing. Team still a bit large for my taste, but it's a quite good mix of powers and personality types - as well as of "classic" and "new" characters.
Question would be whether "what happens next with Damian" is a Titans story or a Batman story.
[QUOTE=Claude;5237486]Yeah, if it's less a big mass of All Titans Ever, and instead an eight-person team of Dick, Donna, Cyborg, Beast Boy, Roundhouse, Crush, Red Arrow and Kid Flash that seems a very different thing. Team still a bit large for my taste, but it's a quite good mix of powers and personality types - as well as of "classic" and "new" characters.[/quote]
Ten. You missed Raven & Starfire. (Although the solicit suggests only Donna & Gar from the NTT will actually be in TT:EW)
[QUOTE=Claude;5237486]Question would be whether "what happens next with Damian" is a Titans story or a Batman story.[/QUOTE]
Detective Comics.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5236078]Not just this issue. KGBeast is pretty much the Batfamily's new punching bag now. First Bruce had a whack at him. Then Damian. Then Dick. Who's next? Jason? Tim? Batcow?[/QUOTE]
I mean even just prior to the current events ... Scott Snyder kind of made him terrifying in that All-Star Batman "basically just a mini-series lead-up to Metal" story, but like two months later to that in a Lobdell RHATO comic Jason and Dick teamed up and kicked the crap out of him. And who can forget a few years ago when Ugly Mannheim killed him for no reason but then there was just another KGBeast running around in-continuity that was probably a new guy ... prior to flashpointing that bit out of existence. No consistency for the guy. More like TEN WRITERS TAKES OF THE BEAST.
[QUOTE=K. Jones;5238000]I mean even just prior to the current events ... Scott Snyder kind of made him terrifying in that All-Star Batman "basically just a mini-series lead-up to Metal" story, but like two months later to that in a Lobdell RHATO comic Jason and Dick teamed up and kicked the crap out of him. [/QUOTE]No it were Artemis and Bizarro who kicked his ass in RHATO.
[QUOTE=SanityOrMadness;5237774]Ten. You missed Raven & Starfire.[/quote]
I did indeed! Lockdown has clearly affected my basic numeracy....
Ten *does* feel too many to me, but we'll see how it turns out!
[quote] (Although the solicit suggests only Donna & Gar from the NTT will actually be in TT:EW)[/quote]
Yes, that's a bit odd - although, despite myself, I'm quite looking forward to EW.
[quote]Detective Comics.[/QUOTE]
Oh, really? I've not been reading - Tomasi will probably want to use Dick for that, then, anyway.
(I'm not a big Tomasi guy, but I'd be happy with that - his Secret Origins prelude to the story where Damian comes back from the dead was probably one of the best non-Morrison interactions Dick and Damian have had.)
So, has Dick gotten his memory back yet or is he still Ric?