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That relationship should be over as soon as Dick was back. Because Dick isn’t Ric. They told us that like 100+ times. It was like every other thing Ric said. Yet here is KG Beast using Bea as bait just like Talon, just like Joker. Aiming for his “broken heart” even though Bea is Ric’s girlfriend. This is just the same creators, doing the same things, with the same characters. Making Dick’s return rather pointless. This is just Ric as Nightwing.
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[QUOTE=Godlike13;5097365]That relationship should be over as soon as Dick was back. Because Dick isn’t Ric. They told us that like 100+ times. It was like every other thing Ric said. Yet here is KG Beast using Bea as bait just like Talon, just like Joker. Aiming for his “broken heart” even though Bea is Ric’s girlfriend. This is just the same creators, doing the same things, with the same characters. Making Dick’s return rather pointless. This is just Ric as Nightwing.[/QUOTE]
I think it's pretty obvious that Jurgens is tying up loose ends before we get a new creative team. He's said as much in interviews.
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He can claim whatever, just like he claimed Ric was so interesting and then did nothing interesting. He's clearly dragging things out again. His run wasn't particularly complex. His lose end don't require more then one issue to wrap up. Instead though were getting basically just another Ric arc painted with Dick. Dick has returned but what is different here. Gotham Bat villain comes after Dick, Bea gets dangled as bait, this is every Ric story he has told. Whats more. Bea isn't Dick's girlfriend, she was Ric's. How is this even a shot at Dick's heart.
This arc probably will end with Dick and Bea broken up. As that really is the only lose end here. Though that's not something that takes multiple issues as Dick and Bea were never dating in the first place. But Jurgens being Jurgens, here is more dragged out bull crap, literally repeating the same things, regardless if they even makes sense. But all rejoice, Dick is back. Doing exactly what Ric did, with the same lazy creator...
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No one hates Nightwing more than Nightwing fans. Some Nightwing fans also hate other Nightwing fans. From debating comics, the writers, ship wars, animated, live action, etc. It never ends. Here, Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, etc. The only time there is peace is when we are talking about Nightwing's ass.
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[QUOTE=yohyoi;5097442]No one hates Nightwing more than Nightwing fans. Some Nightwing fans also hate other Nightwing fans. From debating comics, the writers, ship wars, animated, live action, etc. It never ends. Here, Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, etc. The only time there is peace is when we are talking about Nightwing's ass.[/QUOTE]
The craptastic two years we've gotten comics-wise aside, it kinda comes with the territory when you have a character as old as Dick Grayson is. There's a ton of different interpretations, you're never going to please everybody.
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[QUOTE=Wingin' It;5097447]The craptastic two years we've gotten comics-wise aside, it kinda comes with the territory when you have a character as old as Dick Grayson is. There's a ton of different interpretations, you're never going to please everybody.[/QUOTE]
I agree but compared to other characters we are in a whole different level. The only thing that is equal is Superman fans arguing.
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[QUOTE=yohyoi;5097451]I agree but compared to other characters we are in a whole different level. The only thing that is equal is Superman fans arguing.[/QUOTE]
So...the oldest characters with the longest histories and more interpretations? Without counting Batman of course.
I really don't think that complain about complains add too much to any discussion.
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[QUOTE=yohyoi;5097442]No one hates Nightwing more than Nightwing fans. Some Nightwing fans also hate other Nightwing fans. From debating comics, the writers, ship wars, animated, live action, etc. It never ends. Here, Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, etc. The only time there is peace is when we are talking about Nightwing's ass.[/QUOTE]
I think it's more a thing here than any other place. I don't use tumblr, so i can speak about there, but reddit and twitter i only see people complaining about the Ric mess.
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[QUOTE=Drako;5097768]I think it's more a thing here than any other place. I don't use Tumblr, so I can speak about there, but Reddit and twitter I only see people complaining about the Ric mess.[/QUOTE]
Tumblr hates Ric too with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 people
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5097772]Tumblr hates Ric too with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 people[/QUOTE]
No surprise. Everybody hates Ric.
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[QUOTE=yohyoi;5097451]I agree but compared to other characters we are in a whole different level. The only thing that is equal is Superman fans arguing.[/QUOTE]
Eighty years of history with a lot of highly varied approaches to the character. Yeah of course the fans have different ideas on what they want out of Dick Grayson. He's been a lot of things over the years and we all like certain versions over others.
If you really want to see fans argue, go ask Green Lantern fans which Lantern is the best.
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preview of the next issue:
[url]https://comixwire.com/2020/08/15/page-preview-and-covers-of-nightwing-73-comic-a20/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Drako;5098272]preview of the next issue:
[url]https://comixwire.com/2020/08/15/page-preview-and-covers-of-nightwing-73-comic-a20/[/url][/QUOTE]
Idk why it's so funny to me that Joker's brainwash includes the memory of The Flying Graysons being deadbeat
I think it's because it's such a typical backstory
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Does a court of owls batman game mean good things for our boy?
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[QUOTE=Rac7d*;5100552]Does a court of owls batman game mean good things for our boy?[/QUOTE]
does the court of owls comic good for our boy?