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The reason i think the current Nightwing suit works well... and this future version doesn't... id Dick's personal style. he's an acrobat, and jumps around... the current sleek uniform emphasis that. The armored excess of the future Nightwing outfit looks more suited to a brawler.
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FUTURE STATE: TEEN TITANS #1
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When the original New Teen Titans formed a school to mentor and train young heroes, they wanted to help save the world. Years later, Titans Tower is a monument to a graveyard of pupils lost in a terrible battle. Returning to the site of their greatest failure, Nightwing, Starfire, Beast Boy, and Cyborg join Raven to plot a course to face off against the evil that destroyed their team and school. Loyalties are questioned and motives are suspect as the former teen heroes must turn to the mysterious Red X—a former student—for help. Don't miss the first comics appearance of this Red X, previously seen only in the hit animated TV series Teen Titans Go!
Red X is such a popular character in other media with a recognizable look and name that I'm surprised that they didn't bring the idea into the comics sooner. Though I think that they may be wasting it on Convergence 2.0
Yeah, I'm not interested in a Nightwing's story dedicated to a new Batman, and the New Titans sound like an X-men story but at least is a Titans' story.
Out of all the possible things they could've done on a line called Future State they give us that. I'm not saying it's going to be trash because I haven't read it but it doesn't interest me much.
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FUTURE STATE: TEEN TITANS #1
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(Image credit: DC)
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written by TIM SHERIDAN
art and cover by RAFA SANDOVAL
card stock variant cover by DUSTIN NGUYEN
ON SALE 1/12/21
$3.99 US | 32 PAGES | 1 OF 2 | FC | DC
CARD STOCK COVER $4.99 US
When the original New Teen Titans formed a school to mentor and train young heroes, they wanted to help save the world. Years later, Titans Tower is a monument to a graveyard of pupils lost in a terrible battle. Returning to the site of their greatest failure, Nightwing, Starfire, Beast Boy, and Cyborg join Raven to plot a course to face off against the evil that destroyed their team and school. Loyalties are questioned and motives are suspect as the former teen heroes must turn to the mysterious Red X—a former student—for help. Don't miss the first comics appearance of this Red X, previously seen only in the hit animated TV series Teen Titans Go![/QUOTE]
So this is Nightwing Nightwing. The IGN article did mention the time is set from 2030 to later but they're not necessarily back to back so this can be the far future
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They look good for 40 somethings
[QUOTE=Pohzee;5189658]Red X is such a popular character in other media with a recognizable look and name that I'm surprised that they didn't bring the idea into the comics sooner. Though I think that they may be wasting it on Convergence 2.0[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm surprised it's taken this long.
It's great Nightwing is being pushed again. Feels like Rebirth again. Justice League, Batman books, Teen Titans, etc. It's great to be on the rise again. Let's forget that Ric ever happened because I will.
Notice how Red Hood and Batgirl didn't have their own miniseries, while Tim has. Tim solo? I love Red Hood but I won't mind replacing his series with a Tim Robin series. Tim deserves it after how badly DC treated him. Also nostalgia, 2020 is really killing me right now. It feels like 5 years already. This year is making me desire the good old days.
I'm glad that Dick seems to be showcasing in at least a couple of these books. Not totally sold on the doom and gloom of it all but some of this stuff sounds interesting. Hell I'm even kind of warming up to the idea of a bottled Metropolis. The fact that it's just a two month deal definitely helps, it's more of a "eh, let's see if this short ride is fun" thing rather than a "this is the new direction they're gonna be pushing for years? WTF?" thing.
The armored riot suit is okay. A little too bulky and low-tech for what I'd want to see on a regular basis but decent enough for this. And this is an older Dick, he's certainly slower than he used to be and needs a little extra protection.
We'll see. Honestly, I haven't been by my LCS in a few months and I'm not feeling the loss. 2020 might be what ends this hobby for me. And this Future State thing isn't getting me too excited either but some of it does look interesting enough for me to get, if I haven't cancelled my pull by then.
Nightwing variant cover by Nicola Scott.
[url]https://twitter.com/NicolaScottArt/status/1316879756877459457/photo/1[/url]
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Makes you wonder just how far into the future they are.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5190335]Makes you wonder just how far into the future they are.[/QUOTE]
10 years, apparently.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;5190398]10 years, apparently.[/QUOTE]
10 years for some, futher into the future for others.
[QUOTE=Rakiduam;5189675]Yeah, I'm not interested in a Nightwing's story dedicated to a new Batman, and the New Titans sound like an X-men story but at least is a Titans' story.[/QUOTE]
I don't get why Dick didn't pick up the cowl again, assuming everyone thinks that Gotham needs Batman (and in this case it seems so). Who is better suited?
[QUOTE=kurenai24;5190423]10 years for some, futher into the future for others.[/QUOTE]
With Dick looking around his 30s or 40s? I don't think it's going to be further than 15 years into the future.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;5190438]With Dick looking around his 30s or 40s? I don't think it's going to be further than 15 years into the future.[/QUOTE]
It depends on the books.
There are books which are only 10 years in the future, but others are a lot more years (like Wonder Woman Inmortal).
In the case of Dick, it is possible Nightwing's Future State and Teen Titans's Future State have years between them.
Weather or not the future state story interests you, this looking to be a good turn for the character. We got his memories and Identity back and his book is not being cut.
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Leaked News on titans explains that Dick is will be getting closer to his comic personality, lighthearted and trusting. His suit is being modified to allow more acrobatic stunt work, so I expect great live action shots
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Hopefully he returns in full force in Young Justice season 4
Finally we have his leading role in Gotham Knights to look forward Thats 4 big projects 2 of which have a chance hit the mainstream hard if we need to be supportive of him in mediums to keep him off WarnerMedia chopping block
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[QUOTE=Hizashi;5190424]I don't get why Dick didn't pick up the cowl again, assuming everyone thinks that Gotham needs Batman (and in this case it seems so). Who is better suited?[/QUOTE]
Because there is already a new Batman. Plus wouldn't it be too easy for Dick to want to be Batman again?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5190740]Because there is already a new Batman. Plus wouldn't it be too easy for Dick to want to be Batman again?[/QUOTE]
There's only a new Batman because DC made it so, I mean there are four protégé's in line. Besides, Bruce is still running around.
It's not about what's easy, but about what makes sense.
[QUOTE=Drako;5190332]Nightwing variant cover by Nicola Scott.
[url]https://twitter.com/NicolaScottArt/status/1316879756877459457/photo/1[/url]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkZzP3HVgAApuXT?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG][/QUOTE]
This suit looks like a few well-aimed Batarangs will take the armor part off
Though considering how often he moves, make it very well-aimed
[QUOTE=Hizashi;5190787]There's only a new Batman because DC made it so, I mean there are four protégé's in line. Besides, Bruce is still running around.
It's not about what's easy, but about what makes sense.[/QUOTE]
Dick has Bludhaven and Titans. This isn't even supposed to be his business except that Gotham is still his home. So he'll come back late and the Magistrate will probably have already secured the Manor and the cave. Luke will get to the costume faster if Lucius keeps the newest prototype. That makes sense.
Future State? Tim back as Robin, Steph and Cass back as Batgirls, Nightwing jobbing. LoL, ya "future”...
[QUOTE=Hizashi;5190787]There's only a new Batman because DC made it so, I mean there are four protégé's in line. Besides, Bruce is still running around.
It's not about what's easy, but about what makes sense.[/QUOTE]
But Dick only became Batman a few times when Bruce was missing or something happened to Bruce. That’s the reason he became Nightwing to not be Batman. That what become more like Bruce. Why shouldn’t he be Nightwing still? If he doesn’t want the cowl or wants to live his own life as Nightwing why not?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5191201]But Dick only became Batman a few times when Bruce was missing or something happened to Bruce. That’s the reason he became Nightwing to not be Batman. That what become more like Bruce. Why shouldn’t he be Nightwing still?[/QUOTE]
Bruce is missing and something happened to him, Dick could fill the shoes of Batman in this story.
The only reason Dick isn't Batman is because DC want someone new with the cowl, and that's fair.
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5191026]Future State? Tim back as Robin, Steph and Cass back as Batgirls, Nightwing jobbing. LoL, ya "future”...[/QUOTE]
They're not actually going by Batgirl, though.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5191312]They're not actually going by Batgirl, though.[/QUOTE]
It is weird, because Cassandra and Stephanie are called Batgirls, but they still have Orphan and Spoiler as alias.
Maybe they need the independent alias to avoid confusion when they work together (?).
[QUOTE=Rac7d*;5190551]Weather or not the future state story interests you, this looking to be a good turn for the character. We got his memories and Identity back and his book is not being cut.[/QUOTE]
Do we have confirmation that his book is going to survive beyond this two month break?
I agree with you though, things are looking (tentatively) up; solid larger media showings and in comics he's back to his old self and is among the few characters getting actual a solo in Future State. I think he and Harley are the only non-Leaguers getting that? And odds are Snyder's mini will still happen too, which is good.
My only points of concern right now are: 1: will his solo survive beyond Future State? 2: will we keep getting crap creators if it does? 3: will DC keep forcing Dick into the sidekick role, or let him spread his wings again?
[QUOTE=Drako;5191206]Bruce is missing and something happened to him, Dick could fill the shoes of Batman in this story.
The only reason Dick isn't Batman is because DC want someone new with the cowl, and that's fair.[/QUOTE]
Yep, this is basically all that I'm saying. If he's not gonna take up the cowl, why isn't he running point? Instead a new Batman takes charge?
To be fair, maybe there'll be adequate explanations in the books, but I don't know.
You could also add why isn't Dick leading the JL in the future if Batman and the rest of the main league members are gone? I mean having an inexperienced new Batman run around Gotham is one thing, but at the same time having them run the JL when they might have no experience in doing anything like that is a bit much. But they wanted a whole new JL team, so it is what it is.
Nightwing #75 Preview
[url]https://www.gamesradar.com/nightwing-75-robin-king-1-previews/[/url]
[url]https://comic-watch.com/news/sneak-peek-preview-of-dc-comics-nightwing-75-on-sale-10-20[/url]
Note to the artist - Cyborg's Titans status is back in continuity. So why does that photo show Speedy (who was an original Teen Titan but NOT a New Teen Titan) instead of Victor?
Also, Garth, the Titans aren't currently based at the Tower, the New Justice Titans team was based at the Hall of Justice and Damian's team was using Mercy Hall.
[QUOTE=Badou;5192267]You could also add why isn't Dick leading the JL in the future if Batman and the rest of the main league members are gone? I mean having an inexperienced new Batman run around Gotham is one thing, but at the same time having them run the JL when they might have no experience in doing anything like that is a bit much. But they wanted a whole new JL team, so it is what it is.[/QUOTE]
Even with the new team, it should be Damian and Wallace alongside Jon, Andy, and Yara. That's their generation.
[QUOTE=Lazurus33;5192297]Nightwing #75 Preview
[url]https://www.gamesradar.com/nightwing-75-robin-king-1-previews/[/url]
[url]https://comic-watch.com/news/sneak-peek-preview-of-dc-comics-nightwing-75-on-sale-10-20[/url][/QUOTE]
Tempest/Nightwing gig when they should've hold on to the old team... funny way to say one's dead one's god
[QUOTE=Digifiend;5192322]Note to the artist - Cyborg's Titans status is back in continuity. So why does that photo show Speedy (who was an original Teen Titan but NOT a New Teen Titan) instead of Victor?
Also, Garth, the Titans aren't currently based at the Tower, the New Justice Titans team was based at the Hall of Justice and Damian's team was using Mercy Hall.[/QUOTE]
Damian's Titans are back at the Tower after they failed finding him, it was there Donna found them
[QUOTE=Hizashi;5192013]Yep, this is basically all that I'm saying. If he's not gonna take up the cowl, why isn't he running point? Instead a new Batman takes charge?
To be fair, maybe there'll be adequate explanations in the books, but I don't know.[/QUOTE]
Dick has responsibilities or his own city to protect. Not to mention his Titans gig.
Honestly I'm glad Dick isn't taking over for this event. Dick shouldn't be a relief Batman when Batman has lots of experienced allies in Gotham already. Gimmicks/Stories like that contribute to him being treated like a sidekick
Morrison's Batman and Robin was an exception since that was a prolonged stint.
Yea Nightwing should be protecting Bludhaven his city. Just visit Gotham see how the batfam is doing then be on your way back to your city and responsibilities. No more substitute batman, no more bat lieutenant.
The only good thing about these solicits for Dick is that Bludhaven wasn't mentioned once! Just let the city die off as a concept already. :p
Well, I guess January or even the next solicitations will tell how much of his own man he'll be allowed to be. While I agree that Dick should have his own thing going on, even more so in the future than now, the thing is that he IS in Gotham for the FS story, protecting Gotham citizens instead of being with the Titans or in his own city (wether that's Blüdhaven or not I wouldn't care). Can Nightwing protect Gotham just as well as Batman? He should be able to, but the narrative doesn't allow that, so him not being Batman doesn't look like a huge win to me. Personally, all I'm hoping for is that he'll take on a mentor role as he does with Terry from time to time or at least won't get his ass kicked to prop new Batman up.
[QUOTE=Badou;5192544]The only good thing about these solicits for Dick is that Bludhaven wasn't mentioned once! Just let the city die off as a concept already. :p[/QUOTE]
Yea Bludhaven sucks but its still better than just being another face in Gotham. But Bludhaven and Gotham are so similar that it probably won't matter if its Gotham or not.
Nicola Scott did a little interview: [url]https://www.gamesradar.com/nicola-scott-returns-to-nightwing-for-future-state/[/url]
There isn't a lot she could say but she mentions a few general things:
[LIST][*] Nightwing's status and importance within Gotham and the general hero community plays a role[*] the story highlights how significant, important, and good at his job, Nightwing is[*] another significant character appears[*] selfcontained story[/LIST]
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5192349]Even with the new team, it should be Damian and Wallace alongside Jon, Andy, and Yara. That's their generation.
Tempest/Nightwing gig when they should've hold on to the old team... funny way to say one's dead one's god
Damian's Titans are back at the Tower after they failed finding him, it was there Donna found them[/QUOTE]
Donna met Damian's team on TT 47, so Nightwing 75 is happened before Batman 100 (Joker War) but after TT 47?
[QUOTE=Lazurus33;5192297]Nightwing #75 Preview
[url]https://www.gamesradar.com/nightwing-75-robin-king-1-previews/[/url]
[url]https://comic-watch.com/news/sneak-peek-preview-of-dc-comics-nightwing-75-on-sale-10-20[/url][/QUOTE]
The Moore bait and switch has gotten rather tiresome with this title. And wtf im back, but i don't feel like im back. When can i leave what led to Nightwing behind. This is just more Ric. Bitching and whining, and going nowhere. When do i really get to be me? Are they kidding me with this bullshit. Ya, when the f are we gonna get Dick back. Cause for 2 years people have been asking that and still they just refuse to deliver and drag this out. Why do i have a feeling this is going to end with Dick accepting that he's both Dick and Ric now.
[QUOTE=Light of Justice;5192615]Donna met Damian's team on TT 47, so Nightwing 75 is happened before Batman 100 (Joker War) but after TT 47?[/QUOTE]It IS actually possible that the remaining Teen Titans issues are pre-Joker War. Teen Titans #46 is also out next week, and we know the older Titans show up in issue 47.