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[QUOTE=Pohzee;4973553]It be ironic if Red Hood failed itself into the position that some fans here have wanted for Nightwing for ages[/QUOTE]
I'd be pretty pissed lol
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4973557]It's just one issue and it's not like he's in character anyway
Also, I heard Lobdell's leaving to [B]write X-Men again[/B][/QUOTE]
Well good for Batman i guess, but the X-Men were doing really well lately so sucks for them.
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If Snyder's doing a separate project rather than a new Nightwing #1, what do people think of Josh Williamson as a potential writer? He's coming off a well-received run on "Flash" where he's played well with editorial without hugely impacting the quality of the book, he's staying DC exclusive as is "big but not too big" at the moment if you see what I mean. He's got a good eye for building up a corner of the DCU.
Although, given he's talked about "not being done" with the Flash Family I wonder if he's not more likely to get a Wally and Dick's generation "Titans" relaunch.
Also, there are probably people who'll know more about this than me - who do I have to sweet-talk to get a nice, hardcover Omnibus of Seeley's "Nightwing" run? All the issues in the main run, with [I]Nightwing Vs Hush[/I] as a coda please and thank you.
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I don't think Dick will be given the A list treatment because editorial hates him. He is the most popular character with constant bad stories. Wonder Woman too but they still treat her as an A list.
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[QUOTE=qwazer07;4973640]I don't think Dick will be given the A list treatment because editorial hates him. He is the most popular character with constant bad stories. Wonder Woman too but they still treat her as an A list.[/QUOTE]
I think it would be better for the book to be the priority of up and coming talent than another pay check for an A-lister.
It is what gives me hope about what I have heard from the possible Snyder project.
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[QUOTE=qwazer07;4973640]I don't think Dick will be given the A list treatment because editorial hates him. He is the most popular character with constant bad stories. Wonder Woman too but they still treat her as an A list.[/QUOTE]
Well the main source of editorial hate is gone now, so hopefully things are looking up a bit
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[QUOTE=Rakiduam;4973660]I think it would be better for the book to be the priority of up and coming talent than another pay check for an A-lister.
It is what gives me hope about what I have heard from the possible Snyder project.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like the New 52 and Rebirth all over again. We never get the Moore, Lemire, Fraction, Hickman, etc. We only get lucky with Snyder and King because they were new. After a year or two, they were shipped to Batman. Life sucks.
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[QUOTE=qwazer07;4973668]Sounds like the New 52 and Rebirth all over again. We never get the Moore, Lemire, Fraction, Hickman, etc. We only get lucky with Snyder and King because they were new. After a year or two, they were shipped to Batman. Life sucks.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. And even Snyder handle Dick when he was Batman, so I'm not sure it counts. After all, DC allows that A list writers handle when he was Batman.
As you say, if the new talent is good, they will probably ship this new talent to Batman at the end.
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[QUOTE=Konja7;4973721]Yeah. And even Snyder handle Dick when he was Batman, so I'm not sure it counts. After all, DC allows that A list writers handle when he was Batman.
As you say, if the new talent is good, they will probably ship this new talent to Batman at the end.[/QUOTE]
I don't have hope of any kind. Better that way than be disappointed by DC again and again. I'm used to it.
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Do we have any more info on Snyder's Grayson book yet?
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[QUOTE=Ascended;4973932]Do we have any more info on Snyder's Grayson book yet?[/QUOTE]
Just that it can't come soon enough.
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4973557]It's just one issue and it's not like he's in character anyway
Also, I heard Lobdell's leaving to write X-Men again[/QUOTE]
Actually, according to Bleeding Cool, Lobdell signed a 6 figure contract with Netflix for his Ball & Chain series.
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[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4973986]Actually, according to Bleeding Cool, Lobdell signed a 6 figure contract with Netflix for his Ball & Chain series.[/QUOTE]
Good for him. Creator owned properties should always be supported since they promote more creativity. But.. a lot of his comics still suck. Not a fan.
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Hickman will be on X-Men for a least another couple of years anyway, so Lobdell couldn't have been leaving for that.
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[QUOTE=Claude;4973631]If Snyder's doing a separate project rather than a new Nightwing #1, what do people think of Josh Williamson as a potential writer?[/QUOTE]
I'd be willing to hear him out. His Flash hasn't totally blown me away or anything, but he's a quality talent and, as you said, he's "big but not too big" and seems capable of working around editorial without letting it derail him. He's worked well within the framework of the Flash mythos and built upon what was there in a fairly logical way.
It all depends on what a writer would want to do and where they'd want to take the character, as well as what editorial will [I]allow [/I]them to do. Right now, nobody gets a free pass (from me) just on the merit of name recognition. Dick's been too abused in recent years; not only do we need quality story telling, we also need some damage control and TLC to repair what has been done.
I'd be very willing to see what Williamson would want to do, but whether I'd support him on Nightwing would depend on what kind of Nightwing we get from him. But of all the various writers who might theoretically get the gig, Williamson seems like maybe one of the better options.
I feel like the artist/s needs serious consideration too. Dick's such a visual character, and I feel like after everything we've been through the last few years with Nightwing, the title has to look better than usual if DC wants to start earning some trust back. Depending on the kind of story and approach the writer goes for, I'd think someone like Jorge Jimenez or Dan Mora would be good, but I dunno if DC would let Jorge do Nightwing (he's becoming too big a deal I think, after JL) but Mora might be on the right "big but not too big" level.
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I’d take Williamson for Nightwing. He’s generally a fun writer who knows how to play with the bigger parts of the DC universe. Not to mention he’s already writing Batman over in Batman/Superman, which I enjoyed, so I think he could make for a good Nightwing writer.