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[QUOTE=Ascended;4952204]I'm definitely going to check out whatever this ends up being.
Yeah,[B] I'm concerned that this will just be more Bat-lite crap[/B]. The last things I wanted to see in Nightwing is the Bat cowl and Gotham. But Snyder writes a good Dick Grayson, and if this story is hitting all the major eras of Dick's career then there's gonna be something here for all of us. That's pretty great, and after putting up with Ric for two years all of us deserve at least a taste of our favorite Grayson. I really don't want more DickBats; after Ric all I want is quality Nightwing. But Snyder writes a good Grayson and anything is better than what we've had lately.[/QUOTE]
Snyder talked about it in the interview and it's something that he'll probably make sure it won't happen.
"There are mysteries Bruce wouldn’t do as well on as Dick and he [Dick] sometimes gets shortchanged in terms of people thinking of him as Batman-light."
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[QUOTE=Drako;4952212]Snyder talked about it in the interview and it's something that he'll probably make sure it won't happen.
"There are mysteries Bruce wouldn’t do as well on as Dick and he [Dick] sometimes gets shortchanged in terms of people thinking of him as Batman-light."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I caught that. And to the extent that Dick handles problems differently than Bruce I'm confident that Snyder will do well. He'll write Dick Grayson, not Bruce Wayne.
But Dick solving mysteries in Gotham is still just doing Batman things, even if Dick's methodology is slightly different.
We'll see what Snyder's story is. I mean, it'll be good either way. But I'm hoping this is a story built on Dick, that could only be told with him, not just a Batman mystery where Dick finds the answers in a slightly different way.
Time will tell. It'll be worth reading regardless. All I'm saying is I want to see investment and effort put into Nightwing, not Batman with someone else under the cowl.
I'm just being picky, I know. But we've put up with Ric for two years, I think we're allowed to be a little demanding. :p
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[QUOTE=Ascended;4952287]Yeah, I caught that. And to the extent that Dick handles problems differently than Bruce I'm confident that Snyder will do well. He'll write Dick Grayson, not Bruce Wayne.
But Dick solving mysteries in Gotham is still just doing Batman things, even if Dick's methodology is slightly different.
We'll see what Snyder's story is. I mean, it'll be good either way. But I'm hoping this is a story built on Dick, that could only be told with him, not just a Batman mystery where Dick finds the answers in a slightly different way.
Time will tell. It'll be worth reading regardless. All [B]I'm saying is I want to see investment and effort put into Nightwing, not Batman with someone else under the cowl[/B].
I'm just being picky, I know. But we've put up with Ric for two years, I think we're allowed to be a little demanding. :p[/QUOTE]
This. I would be even more excited if this were an actual Nightwing story and not just a different version of Batman.
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[QUOTE=OBrianTallent;4952623]This. I would be even more excited if this were an actual Nightwing story and not just a different version of Batman.[/QUOTE]
Well, we don't really know what this is yet. It might be the kind of Nightwing we miss and want back. In Gotham, apparently, but that's not the end of the world. And it sounds like we'll all get a bit of our favorite version, somehow (flashbacks? Old villains or supporting cast revisiting? Years-spanning story?).
But I think we have reason to be cautiously optimistic, and dare I say even happy. :) Snyder's a big name and this will put eyes on the character. We know Snyder can write a quality Dick Grayson and the story should be good, even if it's not the story we want it to be. We're getting some of the effort from DC that we've wanted. That's cool.
I mean, I'm not going to forget the last few years of bullsh*t just because DC offers me a treat. DC has broken my trust completely here and I'm not rewarding any empty effort. So these sons of bitches are gonna have to earn their redemption and more importantly, my money. But Snyder doing a Grayson story where there's a conscious effort to avoid Bat-lite, that touches on all the eras of the character....that could be a good start.
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Snyder's high profile to relaunch Nightwing in the public eye may be the kick in the pants the IP needs. I miss reading Nightwing stories. A lot.
But DC has burned me many a time before, so I'll wait and see. Tentatively going to pick this up if only because it seems like Snyder has pull and actually likes Dick Grayson, so at the very least he won't do him dirty for fun. Moreover, we've lost the devil we know in Didio, so who knows what's in store for Nightwing?
I can only hope he gets a good artist on the book. I'm interested, to say the least.
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I have to ask. In terms of Nightwing. What is the most hated thing about him? I don't mean him has a character rather about his lore
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[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4953328]I have to ask. In terms of Nightwing. What is the most hated thing about him? I don't mean him has a character rather about his lore[/QUOTE]
Well... current condition comes to mind
[QUOTE=Ascended;4952287]Yeah, I caught that. And to the extent that Dick handles problems differently than Bruce I'm confident that Snyder will do well. He'll write Dick Grayson, not Bruce Wayne.
But Dick solving mysteries in Gotham is still just doing Batman things, even if Dick's methodology is slightly different.
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You're saying that despite Snyder's intention, it will come off as Batman lite to readers right? If not now, then years later once DC takes over the story and wraps it to fit their vision.
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well i have a lot to catch up one. Pohzee, all of those designs are great. I'm woth everyone who liked the initial bottom right, though I might replace the black with a much darker blue than in the other suits!
I'll have to check out Snyder's pitch soon!
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4953397]Well... current condition comes to mind
You're saying that despite Snyder's intention, it will come off as Batman lite to readers right? If not now, then years later once DC takes over the story and wraps it to fit their vision.[/QUOTE]
I'm saying it *might* come off as Bat-lite despite Snyder's intention. Even with Dick using a different methodology and doing things his own way, solving mysteries in Gotham means it's gonna be awfully hard to avoid Bat-isms.
But we know basically nothing about this story, so I'm just voicing fears that might turn out to be virtually baseless when all is said and done.
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Okay, we have Babs. But do you guys think Dick will not show? If anything the Harley Quinn show could have done Batman and Robin storyline.
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[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4953826]Okay, we have Babs. But do you guys think Dick will not show? If anything the Harley Quinn show could have done Batman and Robin storyline.[/QUOTE]
If he did batman would be chill
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While I don't want this to be shown. If Dick were to go to college what would he even do? I mean, we have seen a few Batfam do it.
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I think he studied business at Hudson, but I actually like the idea that college isn't for him. It's something I'd like explored a bit more actually if he's going to continue have civilian jobs (which I would prefer he didn't).
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If I recall Earth 2 Dick Grayson graduated college and worked for the US government as a lawyer or something, I remember he was the attorney against the JSA in in United States vs JSA but he also traveled to other countries as an emissary/ambassador(I don't remember the name for it).
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I mean no one seems to know what job he should have, A job that would take him around the country. What about a musician or working at the casino? Then again he does want to work with people. What would be a good job for him to help people that aren't college-based ones?