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[QUOTE=WonderNight;5276767]He was in that run. He didn't even have a cellphone and his apartment had a record player in his 20s lol. Dick was push as someone who doesn't like tech.[/QUOTE]
Having a record player doesn’t make you low tech, it’s just retro. Him not having a cell phone I don’t even belive, his Nightwing mask is tech and he has family who may need him, he’ll even if it’s just a clam
[QUOTE=Claude;5276785]
He shouldn't be [I]ignorant[/I] of technology, but disinterested and not having it as part of his Civilian Life? That seems plausible.[/QUOTE]
I'd be fine with that, and can totally see Dick as being relatively ambivalent about technology, but Percy overdid it to an extreme, even by Percy standards.
Having a record player because you're retro is one thing. Not having a cell phone is quite another.
Not to mention it's quite out of character for him. Dick's never been uber tech savvy like Tim or Babs, but he still *uses* it.
I mean, it's just one aspect of what Percy was doing and I still think we'd have been infinitely better off if DC hadn't crashed Percy's run, but I think Percy really misunderstood this element of Grayson.
I think he understood it, but his objective was if everybody is wearing red maybe wear blue. And i respect that idea. From Tim to Steph everyone is now a technowiz. Thing is technology being a characteristic in this day and age is just weak in general, being good at it or bad. Its an essential in this day in age. Its like a toilet. Imagine if a character was introduced and his "thing" was that he was good at using a toilet, its like cool who isn't, but then you have another who doesn't want to use a toilet. And with that you just roll your eyes.
He was raised by Bruce and trained being Robin and he is shown in many runs being okay with tech. Not on the levels like Babs or Tim but can at least Hack or make tech. So he can have a cellphone.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5277517]He was raised by Bruce and trained being Robin and he is shown in many runs being okay with tech. Not on the levels like Babs or Tim but can at least Hack or make tech. So he can have a cellphone.[/QUOTE] Also spend years on the same team and friends with freaking CYBORG! Being Anti-tech dick ain't the one.
It makes Dick look incompetent not to have a deeper understanding and background in technology nowadays. Percy having Dick be borderline anti-technology was bizarre, and even in Higgins Chicago arc he had Dick not know what computer programing language was. Things like that just don't work in 2020 when everyone is walking around with a computer in their pocket. Sure, Dick grew up in a circus, but he was also trained by Batman for years and years. Dick should have a fairly deep understanding of tech and computers just based off Batman's training. He should understand how to use technology, hack computers, diagnose issues with technology, and use tech to enhance his detective and crimefighting work. Something along the lines of him on the Young Justice show is a good example of how tech and tech knowledge should be used for his character, imo. I'd even want Dick to have a belt on his costume where it allows him more access to gadgets and things for more unique fights and problem solving.
Now it shouldn't be dialed up to 11 like you see with so many characters where it feels like fantasy. It needs to be believable. So things like Tim being able to build a super computer better than the Bat computer or turn his house into a giant shapeshifting computer are too much. Same with a Roy in his spare time building nuclear bombs because he is a super genius apparently now, or Babs creating her own sentient AI from a computer. Stuff like that is too much. It's fine if you want characters like Babs, Tim, and others to be a lot better with tech, which I am fine with and he should go to them if there is an issue over his head, but it doesn't mean Dick shouldn't know what computer programing is and be decent at using tech himself.
Anyway, I do a lot of bitching about what I dislike so my pitch for what to do with his solo book (if he even has one anymore) would go like this. I'd bring Spyral back. Right now Spyral is kind of dead so you have the chance to rebuild it in a way Dick wants while being in charge of it. So I'd have Dick create a new Spyral team where he can operate it as Nightwing. So you already eliminate the major issues some fans had with Spyral. That Dick was working for "bad" people while being a spy and he wasn't Nightwing in it. Here Dick is working for himself and is Nightwing.
I'd have Dick recruit Tiger first and the two then start to build back up a new Spyral team. This team's main focus would be monitoring other DCU organizations and spy agencies. I'd move the team to Gotham or NYC because those are two cities where there are actually a lot of resources and characters to use. Bludhaven will always be a waste of time no matter how you dress it up. It's a waste of time because there is nothing in it that people care about and has no real value. So spending more time trying to "fix" it leads to nothing. Then I'd just have Nightwing and Tiger operate out of a small base/apartment for now and have them recruit an odd collection of characters and other heroes. Maybe have them recruit other members from other organizations. Not sure, but there is a lot of value in these oddball teams like a Guardians of the Galaxy, Suicide Squad, and Doom Patrol. Maybe recruit one member from each niche like magic, aliens, and tech. You can get real creative with it.
Dick can have his own team that operates a bit like the X-Force or Outsiders but more focused on spy and weird parts of the hero business. Basically a covert team that as Nightwing he can mold the way he wants. I think there is real value there. Spyral has the chance to be his and his alone which is really important for the character going forward and can add real value beyond just the comics if done well. He isn't splitting leadership of the Titans with Robin, and obviously he will never be allowed on the JL, but this can be his own team built around him.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5274038]I see your point. While I do like Babs and Kori. I do think we should have another love interest for a while. Just not right now. Let Dick be single for a while. So you think Helena is a good choice? I think one of the reasons people don't want that is she is technically Helena Wayne his sisters. I mean yes and no since she is from another earth. Also aren’t there like a few ways Helena doesn’t even have to be a Wayne. I know they did it a few times
Yea Statfire’s hair isn’t fair just an artist choice when she uses her powers to make it look that way. But I get it she looks too not human. All I’m using a good writer can make anything work. But I do think maybe we should just have him be single. If people want Babs or Dick maybe elsewhere comic series is for the best.[/QUOTE]
Helena doesn't work anymore. She got ruined with Seeley's Nghtwing book. He had the two sleep together during the awful Shawn drama when they were broken up. Then Helena got angry and kicked Dick in the balls or something and that was the last time Dick and Helena interacted I believe. Had that never happened then maybe I'd be interested in exploring the two again, but now it doesn't work. And I think Helena Bertinelli has differentiated herself enough by now to never be confused with Helena Wayne. So I don't think there is any issue there.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5274171]
Starfire is never going to be stuck in space, though. She's a cosmic character but she's generally depicted as being on Earth where the action happens.[/quote]
She just spent the last few years in space. She should be on a space JL team, but DC doesn't really do cosmic stories well. DC only really does Green Lantern stories for the cosmic ones and she isn't a GL so she doesn't really fit into what they want. Even that JL Odyssey book eventually just started to revolve around the GL Jessica Cruz. If DC was more like Marvel and had a bigger variety of cosmic outlets then she would fit in much better in that setting I think.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5274171]Personally I want Dick to be part of both the Batman and Titans franchises.
I just miss the old Helena.[/quote]
If you could only pick one for Dick to be involved with in the comics going forward would you pick the Titans or the Batman franchise? I'd always pick Batman.
I'd be fine with them having Helena be white again and had her vigilante history back, but I don't think DC is ever going to do that. If they were going to change her back then they would have done it for the BoP movie where Helena in that looked a lot more like her pre-New 52 self.
I don't think batman would even allow robin in the field unless he got good with tech.
Badou I agree 100% man, Nightwing: agent of spyral is the way to go for nightwing. It gives him both direction and a niche.
Nightwing would be the face of DC's espionage world just like wonder woman is for fantasy, superman for syfi and batman is for street vigilante.
Nightwing globetrotting around the dcu on covert missions solo and with his own supporting cast. Awesome!
Take the best elements from grayson and bring them in to nightwing. Nightwing working to keep the other spy organizations out of the hero community's business. Take on the thing that go on behind the scenes like global meta human and weapons trafficking.
Badou what you just described was basically YJ Nightwing and the Team! But instead of working for the JL and being made up of sidekicks it nightwing's own spyral organization and other agents/heroes.
Basically just bring Grayson into nightwing copy YJ Nightwing. Nightwing = Nick fury meets captain America love it.
Why does he have to work with an organization? Why not him make him own team? Another section of Titans ? I guess I’m thinking they just have him get rid of the Nightwing suit and everything Titans also.
The only other thing is to think what should Dick built on his own. I mean Dc is once again just wanting him not to shine. I feel they are trying to ruin him over and over. In many ways with Vic and Babs. They could have increased him talent
[QUOTE=Badou;5277648]Helena doesn't work anymore. She got ruined with Seeley's Nghtwing book. He had the two sleep together during the awful Shawn drama when they were broken up. Then Helena got angry and kicked Dick in the balls or something and that was the last time Dick and Helena interacted I believe. Had that never happened then maybe I'd be interested in exploring the two again, but now it doesn't work. And I think Helena Bertinelli has differentiated herself enough by now to never be confused with Helena Wayne. So I don't think there is any issue there.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Helena's ruined although I would like to see that not get brought up again.
[QUOTE]She just spent the last few years in space. She should be on a space JL team, but DC doesn't really do cosmic stories well. DC only really does Green Lantern stories for the cosmic ones and she isn't a GL so she doesn't really fit into what they want. Even that JL Odyssey book eventually just started to revolve around the GL Jessica Cruz. If DC was more like Marvel and had a bigger variety of cosmic outlets then she would fit in much better in that setting I think.[/QUOTE]
She has as much chance of staying in space as Cyborg did. Her whole thing is being a space princess who finds a home on Earth.
[QUOTE]If you could only pick one for Dick to be involved with in the comics going forward would you pick the Titans or the Batman franchise? I'd always pick Batman.
I'd be fine with them having Helena be white again and had her vigilante history back, but I don't think DC is ever going to do that. If they were going to change her back then they would have done it for the BoP movie where Helena in that looked a lot more like her pre-New 52 self.[/QUOTE]
I'd choose both :).
Maybe they could just take out Spyral and try to emphasize more of the Post-Crisis traits, but I doubt race-bending her back would be met well.
This is true but even in the original comics she has returned home and other planets. So it should be used of her going to space. Especially with helping Planets who are enslaved
[QUOTE=Frontier;5273110]I'm ready for a DickFire resurgence :).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ascended;5273142]I'm definitely not against the idea, between Kori and Babs I've always been team Kori. Babs and Dick are just....bad for each other, their relationship usually makes him end up looking irresponsible and/or immature and her looking like a control freak with commitment issues.
[/QUOTE]
Always knew you two had good taste. :p
[QUOTE=Ascended;5274039]Anything that gets Dick out of that Gotham style street level mold would be refreshing at this point. And I don't disagree; it's been a long time since Dick and Kori were in a relationship and it'd be nice to see a modern spin on that. I will never *not* support that idea, if the choice is between Kori and Babs....or Huntress, Tarantula, or any of the forgettable women who have dated Dick Grayson for a few issues.
But I think what would be even *more* refreshing is a legitimate effort to develop and explore new love interests for all three characters, something more than just some original, throwaway character that'll never last beyond the writer's time on the comic. Y'all know how I am about Power Girl and Nightwing, but in all seriousness a concerted, *real* effort to move everyone's love life forward, instead of recycling stories we've been reading for decades, would be something *truly* novel and refreshing.[/QUOTE]
I like Babs too despite my slight preference for DickFire, and you know I'm your brother in PowerWing, but I just want Dick's love life to take a two year rest. Just twenty four issues. Rebuild him as more than DC's Helen of Troy. Please.
After the whole Ric thing, Duck probably shouldn’t be doing the whole relationship thing for a good while anyway.
So do you guys think nightwing should join the jsa? I don't see pg joining the titans and that will focus on the younger new heroes. So nightwing won't have a team book that he is a main focus of.
No. There's plenty of Infinity Inc and other legacy characters (Stargirl, Jakeem Thunder), the Justice Society can use.
His solo book sells well on a good day, so he doesn't need to be on another team, just let a trail of kids follow him.
[QUOTE=WonderNight;5277716]Badou I agree 100% man, Nightwing: agent of spyral is the way to go for nightwing. It gives him both direction and a niche.
Nightwing would be the face of DC's espionage world just like wonder woman is for fantasy, superman for syfi and batman is for street vigilante.
Nightwing globetrotting around the dcu on covert missions solo and with his own supporting cast. Awesome!
Take the best elements from grayson and bring them in to nightwing. Nightwing working to keep the other spy organizations out of the hero community's business. Take on the thing that go on behind the scenes like global meta human and weapons trafficking.
Badou what you just described was basically YJ Nightwing and the Team! But instead of working for the JL and being made up of sidekicks it nightwing's own spyral organization and other agents/heroes.
Basically just bring Grayson into nightwing copy YJ Nightwing. Nightwing = Nick fury meets captain America love it.[/QUOTE]
It's the path that allows him the most room for unique stories and character growth, as well as building something that might appeal to other media adaptation. Him running around Bludhaven will never lead to anything unique nor be something that writers are drawn to write. No writer out there is chomping at the bits to sink their teeth into Bludhaven, but the whole spy or covert side of the DCU is completely open for him, especially after Bendis destroyed every single organization out there with his awful Leviathan story, but at least that allows some creator to build Spyral back up where Nightwing can lead and operate it the way he wants. The Young Justice show already did this kind of like you said, but I don't think this will ever happen. So far DC has shown no desire to do anything interesting with Nightwing's character.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5278236]Why does he have to work with an organization? Why not him make him own team?[/QUOTE]
That is what we are saying. That he would be leading Spyral and form his own team and operate it how he sees fit.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5278532]I don't think Helena's ruined although I would like to see that not get brought up again. [/QUOTE]
I meant ruined in terms of being a romantic option for Dick not that her character is ruined. I don't have any desire to see their relationship explored again after how horribly it ended in Seely's Nightwing run. I don't really see how you can go back to it after what happened.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5278532]She has as much chance of staying in space as Cyborg did. Her whole thing is being a space princess who finds a home on Earth. [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say that. She is an alien and has far deeper ties to cosmic stories than Cyborg does. I just think her character works better in space instead of being stuck on awful Titans teams on Earth.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5278532]I'd choose both :).[/QUOTE]
I knew you wouldn't pick one when I asked that, lol.
[QUOTE=WonderNight;5279288]So do you guys think nightwing should join the jsa? I don't see pg joining the titans and that will focus on the younger new heroes. So nightwing won't have a team book that he is a main focus of.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather see him in the JSA than Titans. He's a Golden Age character and has been a member before, so not like he wouldn't fit in. I had a pitch years ago where I'd like his solo book to be about him joining the JSA. It would follow his journey on the team. A problem I have with the Titans is that Dick is always written the same way in it. He defaults to the boring and generic leader trope and his personality gets stripped from him. There is zero room for growth for him which is why writers always undercut his character on those Titans team and try to pass it off as "deveopment". On the JSA he wouldn't be the leader and would have to work his way up and develop new dynamics with its members. I think that would be interesting to read but it won't ever happen. He is handcuffed to the Titans unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Badou;5279335]I wouldn't say that. She is an alien and has far deeper ties to cosmic stories than Cyborg does. I just think her character works better in space instead of being stuck on awful Titans teams on Earth.[/QUOTE]
I think she's more tied to the Titans while the cosmic stuff just informs her character, so that's why the main impetus is her fitting into both worlds, like Dick is both a Bat and a Titan.
[QUOTE=WonderNight;5279288]So do you guys think nightwing should join the jsa? I don't see pg joining the titans and that will focus on the younger new heroes. So nightwing won't have a team book that he is a main focus of.[/QUOTE]
Been saying for a while now he's a good fit in the JSA.
Well, he was fairly prominent in Earth-2...
Agent Nightwing would honestly be perfect. That’s a whole area of the DCU Dick could call his own, something the other Batfamily members couldn’t poach.
[QUOTE=Robanker;5279249]
I like Babs too despite my slight preference for DickFire, and you know I'm your brother in PowerWing, but I just want Dick's love life to take a two year rest. Just twenty four issues. Rebuild him as more than DC's Helen of Troy. Please.[/QUOTE]
Oh, totally agreed. As much as we talk about Dick's love life, that should be pretty low on the priority list right now. The character needs a lot of TLC to recover from the last few years (going back to before Ric even started) and needs to be re-defined and re-contextualized, and of all the things that need some work the love interest is near the bottom of that list. But it's what we're talking about, so.... :D
[QUOTE=WonderNight;5279288]So do you guys think nightwing should join the jsa? I don't see pg joining the titans and that will focus on the younger new heroes. So nightwing won't have a team book that he is a main focus of.[/QUOTE]
I'd support it. Honestly, anything that isn't the League or Titans sounds good to me right now, but Dick in the JSA could be a pretty fantastic thing. I can't really think of a reason *not* to put him on the team.
Not that I want the JSA to be his primary home, I still want him to have his own book where he does his own thing and has his own unique niche in the DCU. But as far as teams go, JSA is pretty high on my wish list.
Tom Taylor possible teasing Nightwing?
[url]https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1339544697241407490[/url]
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I don’t think Babs and Dick relationship will carry over. Dc keeps saying their doing this to make things less confusing but to be honest. They are the ones to blame they are also just saying Dan’s idea. So what is going to happen now? We going to need a reboot of a reboot?
I mean let’s be honest Starfire can just make a Titan team in space. I don’t know what Dc play is to have him break up then have be married to Babs. Hopefully it’s not cannon so he can just be single for a bit
[url]https://twitter.com/thedcnation/status/1339571056734978051[/url]
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[QUOTE]In Taylor and Redondo's Nightwing run, Blüdhaven has elected a new mayor with the last name Zucco, which can’t be good for DC’s first sidekick and former Robin—but is it good for Blüdhaven? When Nightwing enlists Batgirl’s help in investigating the politician bearing the same name as the man who murdered his parents, she unearths details that will shock and fundamentally change the hero.[/QUOTE]
Le sigh.
[QUOTE]And appearing in the first issue of Taylor and Redondo’s new Nightwing comic is a potential new sidekick for Dick Grayson—a three-legged puppy that he shields from harm in Blüdhaven’s alleys![/QUOTE]
I'm ok with that.
[QUOTE] I’ve always considered a DC A-lister. Our series is about showing that. It’s about putting Dick Grayson back on that pedestal where he belongs.”[/QUOTE]
And this sounds good too.
Taylor wouldn't have been my first choice but he could do good stuff. Dick needs action and Taylor can do that. Redondo drawing Nightwing doesn't hurt.
[QUOTE=Hypo;5281550][url]https://twitter.com/thedcnation/status/1339571056734978051[/url]
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/vSUf4lz.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/IIUE5bq.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Hell yes!
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5281547]I don’t think Babs and Dick relationship will carry over. Dc keeps saying their doing this to make things less confusing but to be honest. They are the ones to blame they are also just saying Dan’s idea. So what is going to happen now? We going to need a reboot of a reboot?
I mean let’s be honest Starfire can just make a Titan team in space. I don’t know what Dc play is to have him break up then have be married to Babs. Hopefully it’s not cannon so he can just be single for a bit[/QUOTE]
It will carry over.
[url]https://www.gamesradar.com/nightwing-and-batgirl-rekindled-romance-continues-in-ongoing-title-with-tom-taylor-and-bruno-redondo/[/url]
[QUOTE=Hypo;5281550][url]https://twitter.com/thedcnation/status/1339571056734978051[/url]
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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/IIUE5bq.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Yes!!! Actually excited about this.
Taylor is more hit or miss with me but one thing he is not is boring. Which is what Nighteing has been for awhile.
This may be a disaster but at least itll be entertaining. But I think Taylor will do well on this.
Also happy that Barbara is there too. I always liked them together. I guess this will be her spot in lieu of her solo.
It's better with them together anyways instead of some other girl that we know will not work out for Dick anyways.
I like the art for the poster also.
[QUOTE=Tom Taylor]So excited for this, people. Despite killing him... twice... in DCeased and Injustice, I've always been a huge Nightwing fan. Can't wait to tell these epic stories of Nightwing and Batgirl, with my good friend,
@Bruno_Redondo_F.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1339577487672524801[/url]
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Yeah please don’t have Dick hit his head on a rock and die would you Tom? Alright, while I plan on giving this a shot, Taylor isn’t usually to my taste. But he’s very popular with the casual audience so he will most likely write a popular Nightwing, which is good. Dick needs something that will connect with the general audience again.
Had a feeling they weren't relaunching. Watch out for rocks, lol. Solid creative team, better then expected honestly, but i have a feeling this is going to be like when Humphries took over. As in this is the new creative team for a story arc. But ill still take it. Really is a shame though they wasted the return and left Jurgens for as long as they did. The numbers on the book probably aren't going to recover. Whatever bump his series might have got from his return was wasted by 3 more month of Jurgens, and now this team has to pretty much start from the bottom. Which sucks cause this checks a lot of boxes. Relevant writer who's making a name for himself, cool looking art, and new pet lol. Love the dog already btw. That being said, Babs, Bludhaven, and Zucco. I know some aren't gonna be happy with those things.
[QUOTE=Godlike13;5281610]Had a feeling they weren't relaunching. Watch out for rocks, lol. Solid creative team, better then expected honestly, but i have a feeling this is going to be like when Humphries took over. This is the new creative team for a story arc. But ill still take it. Really is a shame though they wasted the return and left Jurgens for as long as they did. The number on the book aren't going to recover. Whatever bump his series might have got from his return was wasted by 3 more month of Jurgens, and now this team has to pretty much start from the bottom.[/QUOTE]
He is staying long term.
[QUOTE=Tom Taylor]Yes. We're on the ongoing Nightwing series starting with issue #78. Not just an arc, I'm planning on writing Nightwing for a long time.
So great to join @Ben_Abernathy and so many of my friends in the Bat Group. We've all been scheming...[/QUOTE]
Make nightwing great again!
2021 is looking up!!!
[QUOTE=Vordan;5281603]Yeah please don’t have Dick hit his head on a rock and die would you Tom? Alright, while I plan on giving this a shot, Taylor isn’t usually to my taste. But he’s very popular with the casual audience so he will most likely write a popular Nightwing, which is good. Dick needs something that will connect with the general audience again.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i agreed, there is just something about him that doesn't conect with me, but hey it might be popular enought to give Nightwing a boost.
[QUOTE=Drako;5281615]He is staying long term.[/QUOTE]
Ok, very cool. Im excited. I almost forgot what this felt like when it comes to Nightwing.
Never would have guessed Taylor would write Nightwing. I figured he could have had his pick of higher profile titles, but I guess it's the least DC could do after a couple years of terrible Ric stories. His title has been a disaster for a while and maybe this is a strong enough team to stabilize it? No idea but I guess we will see. The fact that the book isn't getting relaunched does make me think Taylor won't be on the title for too long despite what he says. Guess we will see.
But it's depressing they are setting it in Bludhaven again. It's expected of course, but it just means that nothing from this run will last because Bludhaven is a creative wasteland. It's a setting I've explained countless times now why it doesn't work but people will still defend it. I'll never understand their devotion to it. In the pitch for this series you can even see why it doesn't work. Dick's connection to Bludhaven is so paper thin they have to drag out a Zucco character to give Dick some deeper motivation to be in Bludhaven. It's them dragging more things from Gotham to try and fill out Bludhaven because it has nothing useable in it. They even have to drag Batgirl from Gotham there because after 25 years there is nothing there of any real value. The only way Bludhaven becomes an asset is if Allen Moore comes back to DC and wants to write about it, haha. Outside that it is what it is at this point and trying to pass it off as Dick's "home" or his own Gotham will always come across as forced.
Okay, Bludhaven rant over. Not sure what to make of the Batgirl thing. So are they going to start dating now, continue to be "married", or are they just going to continue what they have been doing for the past 9 years with their awful will they/won't they dynamic? Where somehow the timing is ALWAYS bad and they continue to bitch about it despite having no real reason not to be together? I used to like Dick and Babs together but the past 9 years killed any motivation I have to see it. My gut tells me that they will just be dating at most because it is still set in Bludhaven and Barbara isn't going to leave Gotham. Really, this pitch could have just been set in Gotham and it would probably have been better for it, but I guess they can use Bludhaven as an excuse to put a wedge in their relationship, lol.
Also it looks like the Hawkeye influence is still going strong in the comics. How long ago was that run now? 7 years? Crazy how influential that series was, and I guess still is, but this new dog does feel very influenced by Pizza Dog with being disabled and paired up with the hero with comedic undertones.
Is Babs going to be Oracle here, like she is in Tynion’s Batman I wonder?
[QUOTE=Vordan;5281709]Is Babs going to be Oracle here, like she is in Tynion’s Batman I wonder?[/QUOTE]
They're calling her Batgirl in the interview, but who knows.
Enjoyed Taylor's writing from the stuff I've read so this is great news. Plus Suicide Squad was great - art included.
Not sure about the use of a Zucco (i.e. I'd prefer something "new" and not tied to history) but Snyder managed to make it work in The Black Mirror so let's see.
To be fair, over half the people on this Forum could have been introduced as the new writer and it'll still be welcome following the Ric debacle.