Crimes of Passion did have a Dick Babs story. Was set in the past, probably just before Dick was shot.
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Crimes of Passion did have a Dick Babs story. Was set in the past, probably just before Dick was shot.
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Saw this storyline on Reddit anout Ric's wasted potential and how it could have been properly realised. Clearly a lot of work went into this but just wanted to run it by Dick fans on Cbr
I’ll admit likes a lot of other people when dc first rolled out this nightwing amnesia arc I wasn’t really into either, but when nightwing annual 2 (I’m pretty sure it was annual 2) where it’s revealed the court of owls were messing with his recovery to force him away from Batman to become a owl I fell in love with the idea. Especially post city of bane I felt Batman is in a very vulnerable place and would be desperate to get one of his most trusted friends and ally’s back. I had this whole senecio in my head that after Alfred’s death Batman is desperate to find nightwing so they can both mourn the loss of the man that practically raised then both, that he had stopped going on patrol and spends all day on the bat computer searching the world for nightwing who can’t be found bc he’s become a talon for the courts. They coulda had nightwing attempt to assassinate some other dc character. I was thinking they could do Garth( Aqualad) being the Atlantis diplomat to the surface world and talon ric attacks him taking out his guards and injuring Garth, that would lead Aquaman to being a video of the attack to Batman because of his experiences with the court of owls in the past. And after studying the video for hours Batman finally figured out nightwing is the talon and is brainwashed by the court. The comic coulda had some epic last page too of Selina coming down to the cave to check on Bruce only to find the cave in a mess with the chair through the giant monitor screen( think BTAS bat computer) and when she calls out Bruce’s name he’ll step out of the shadows in some badass bat suit we haven’t seen before decked out to fight through an army of the reanimated corpses of the talons to bring nightwing back. But instead we got the rush job we did that did the whole arc in a handful of issues #MakeDickAndTimGreatAgain
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That Crimes of Passion story was honestly whack. Like it just screams "I was written by someone who doesn't actually speak to or know of any PoC." Besides that whole aspect, it was a little rushed and undercooked, but it was still nice seeing Dick as Dick.
Well, now DC can hit a minor reset button on Dick.
Personally, I hope Spyral is involved in the new series...Helena and Midnighter, too.
And a separate new Dick and Wally series.
I'm curious with Dick generally should he be drawn buffy or lean yet tone?
Start with different creators.
[QUOTE=Grayson - The Dark Heir;4819271]That Crimes of Passion story was honestly whack. Like it just screams "I was written by someone who doesn't actually speak to or know of any PoC." Besides that whole aspect, it was a little rushed and undercooked, but it was still nice seeing Dick as Dick.[/QUOTE]
Can you expand on this? I haven't bought comics since the Ric debacle and I admit I was tempted by this. Less so since the Catwoman thing was clickbait
[QUOTE=Fergus;4819118]Saw this storyline on Reddit anout Ric's wasted potential and how it could have been properly realised. Clearly a lot of work went into this but just wanted to run it by Dick fans on Cbr
I’ll admit likes a lot of other people when dc first rolled out this nightwing amnesia arc I wasn’t really into either, but when nightwing annual 2 (I’m pretty sure it was annual 2) where it’s revealed the court of owls were messing with his recovery to force him away from Batman to become a owl I fell in love with the idea. Especially post city of bane I felt Batman is in a very vulnerable place and would be desperate to get one of his most trusted friends and ally’s back. I had this whole senecio in my head that after Alfred’s death Batman is desperate to find nightwing so they can both mourn the loss of the man that practically raised then both, that he had stopped going on patrol and spends all day on the bat computer searching the world for nightwing who can’t be found bc he’s become a talon for the courts. They coulda had nightwing attempt to assassinate some other dc character. I was thinking they could do Garth( Aqualad) being the Atlantis diplomat to the surface world and talon ric attacks him taking out his guards and injuring Garth, that would lead Aquaman to being a video of the attack to Batman because of his experiences with the court of owls in the past. And after studying the video for hours Batman finally figured out nightwing is the talon and is brainwashed by the court. The comic coulda had some epic last page too of Selina coming down to the cave to check on Bruce only to find the cave in a mess with the chair through the giant monitor screen( think BTAS bat computer) and when she calls out Bruce’s name he’ll step out of the shadows in some badass bat suit we haven’t seen before decked out to fight through an army of the reanimated corpses of the talons to bring nightwing back. But instead we got the rush job we did that did the whole arc in a handful of issues #MakeDickAndTimGreatAgain
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Unbelievably dumb!
And to think that all the Ric arc needed to make it a hit was Batman looking Epic in a new Badass suit. Smh
This actually got up votes!
They have teased the idea of Dick as a Talon with every series sine the New 52. It’s kind of become the current Bat offices lazy go to, and it falls to the creators to try and put a spin on it. Seeley thankfully brought Raptor to it, which was cool. Jurgans on the other hand just had the most generic take on Talon and the Court. I’m not sure if he even did any research, Talon especially was bad he was a such a by the numbers mustache twirling villain. Like something out of a bad cartoon. He barely even resembled any Talon we seen before except for maybe the bad animated film they did.
That’s being said, they could have ended the current series and relaunched a new Talon series with Dick. It probably would have been better then mindlessly spinning their wheels or retelling the same story beat over and over.
Btw I wonder if it won’t be Tynion’s Batman that fixes Ric but the Gen zero event.
Yeah the dick Babs wasn't great, but lets not pretend that an author who gets like 10pgs to tell a story is going to give it his best go. It was alright. And quite frankly, I was incredibly happy just to be reading Nightwing. And he the art looked great. Dick's suit is pretty killer.
Do you think Dick will ever get respect from DC? What arcs do you wish will be retconned?
[QUOTE=dropkickjake;4820630]Yeah the dick Babs wasn't great, but lets not pretend that an author who gets like 10pgs to tell a story is going to give it his best go. It was alright. And quite frankly, I was incredibly happy just to be reading Nightwing. And he the art looked great. Dick's suit is pretty killer.[/QUOTE]
I wanted more to the story see them take down the gang I missed them doing stuff like that
[QUOTE=Godlike13;4820384]Btw I wonder if it won’t be Tynion’s Batman that fixes Ric but the Gen zero event.[/QUOTE]The fixing is already underway. He got his real memories back last issue, but can't tell them apart from the false implanted memories, which is why he didn't go back to his old self. He's about to encounter Joker, which would likely make him realise the truth. And the annual out in April appears to have him back to normal.
May's solicitations are going to be VERY interesting.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;4820737]Do you think Dick will ever get respect from DC? What arcs do you wish will be retconned?[/QUOTE]
I have little doubt Dick will get the respect he's due from DC.
Eventually.
He does very well in larger media and does quite respectably in print, even if he's not a Top 10 title. He's been around longer than 99% of comic characters and has never really been out of print for any length of time. He's got one of the most loyal followings in comics and is easily adapted into other formats.
The current management might not see any appeal here, or anything worth investing in. Once they're gone? Wiser heads may see what's gone wrong here.