[QUOTE=Ascended;5114050]I feel like if it was a promo for the Titans tv show, they'd be using the tv cast and costumes.[/QUOTE]
Good luck getting Alex to draw that. He barely stomached drawing Kyle Raynor once. :p
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[QUOTE=Ascended;5114050]I feel like if it was a promo for the Titans tv show, they'd be using the tv cast and costumes.[/QUOTE]
Good luck getting Alex to draw that. He barely stomached drawing Kyle Raynor once. :p
So I learned why Dick is called a Cheater because it seems like Raven(80s) and Donna who cheated on Star with. And Babs of course.
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I mean Star was already married wasn't she?
He never had anything with Donna.
Raven is an empath and manipulated him emotionally because thought she had feelings for Nightwing. You should not believe everything you see online without the context.
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[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5115538]I mean Star was already married wasn't she?[/QUOTE]
Also, Dick and Starfire never actually got married.
[QUOTE=Drako;5115580]Also, Dick and Starfire never actually got married.[/QUOTE]
Yes, though to be fair, he slept with Barbara before the wedding to Starfire in Nightwing Annual #2. Scummy thing to do. Dick ain't perfect.
[QUOTE=Robanker;5115591]Yes, though to be fair, he slept with Barbara before the wedding to Starfire in Nightwing Annual #2. Scummy thing to do. Dick ain't perfect.[/QUOTE]
And can i acknowledge that one, even though i hate that Annual.
I never thought of him as a perfect individual, i'm just providing context to the page that was brought here to make him look even worse.
[QUOTE=Robanker;5115591]Yes, though to be fair, he slept with Barbara before the wedding to Starfire in Nightwing Annual #2. Scummy thing to do. Dick ain't perfect.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I would rather ignore that event, since that was the time when writers really want to dismiss the relationship between Dick and Kory (they want to imply the relationship was mainly lust from Dick side).
After so many retcons, I would just assume that event was retconned too and never happened.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5115538]So I learned why Dick is called a Cheater because it seems like Raven(80s) and Donna who cheated on Star with. And Babs of course.
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I mean Star was already married wasn't she?[/QUOTE]
This was a dream, Dick was being influenced by Raven who was projecting her love for Dick onto him. He told Kory what was going on, she and Raven had a heart-to-heart where she realized that her feelings might not be romantic in nature. No harm no foul.
As for Donna, their relationship was extremely close but never romantic. They were more like siblings, really, and Donna was also best friends with Kory. Not sure who told you otherwise.
[QUOTE=Robanker;5115591]Yes, though to be fair, he slept with Barbara before the wedding to Starfire in Nightwing Annual #2. Scummy thing to do. Dick ain't perfect.[/QUOTE]
Dick ain't perfect but him being a cheater was so out of left field it still baffles me why they'd write it. It was a retcon that took place long after Dick and Kory's relationship had ended in canon, done to portray Babs as the only woman Dick ever loved. Up until that point, it was understood that Dick's relationship with Babs was puppy love/one-sided crush-territory until a while after she became Oracle.
Kinda annoying, because Dick absolutely loved Kory while they were together and wanted to spend his life with her.
[QUOTE=Wingin' It;5115661]Dick ain't perfect but him being a cheater was so out of left field it still baffles me why they'd write it. It was a retcon that took place long after Dick and Kory's relationship had ended in canon, done to portray Babs as the only woman Dick ever loved. Up until that point, it was understood that Dick's relationship with Babs was puppy love/one-sided crush-territory until a while after she became Oracle.
Kinda annoying, because Dick absolutely loved Kory while they were together and wanted to spend his life with her.[/QUOTE]
They really want to dismiss Dick feelings toward Kory at that time.
In Gotham Kinghts (2000-2006) #43, Batman tells Barbara that Dick still love her and that "his thing with the alien won't last". It was a story set in the past when Jason was Robin.
We have Titans Tomorrow where he would have a happy marriage with Kory. I hope if DC does a Kory/Dick story it's never this messy
[QUOTE=Drako;5115580]Also, Dick and Starfire never actually got married.[/QUOTE]
No I was speaking of Star's other marriages. Also I think Flash vol 2. #81-83 it's stated that they were married(Kory/Dick).
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What issue is this from?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5115750]No I was speaking of Star's other marriages. Also I think Flash vol 2. #81-83 it's stated that they were married(Kory/Dick). [/QUOTE]
They never got married. An evil Raven stopped the ceremony.
Flash v2 was Wrong, you can see this here:
[url]https://www.cbr.com/titans-flash-nightwing-starfire-no-marriage/[/url]
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5115750]What issue is this from?[/QUOTE]
New Teen Titans Vol 2 #37
Yea the person that I was talking to kept saying that he treated Star badly and in the 2000 run he hit on Rachel and Kory at the same time. I mean it's never been a thing with Rachel(Raven) and thing. I guess people do have issues with Dick due to certain things that come off wrongly. Especially with the Babs situation.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5115900]Yea the person that I was talking to kept saying that he treated Star badly and in the 2000 run he hit on Rachel and Kory at the same time. I mean it's never been a thing with Rachel(Raven) and thing. I guess people do have issues with Dick due to certain things that come off wrongly. Especially with the Babs situation.[/QUOTE]
Weird. But no, Dick, under his own mental faculties, has never been interested in Raven as more than a friend.
From the Gotham Knights game.
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[QUOTE=Drako;5115940]From the Gotham Knights game.
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This looks cool. You guys think Nightwing comics can be better after Dan plans for Nightwing is done ?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5115900]Yea the person that I was talking to kept saying that he treated Star badly and in the 2000 run he hit on Rachel and Kory at the same time. I mean it's never been a thing with Rachel(Raven) and thing. I guess people do have issues with Dick due to certain things that come off wrongly. Especially with the Babs situation.[/QUOTE]
He treated Star badly? Is he serious? Kory had a state wedding, and Dick was the one suffering. Then, he was raped and the only thing Kory kept telling him was it was his fault. That's what ruined their relationship, imho. She was so selfish and cruel, I started hating her.
Next time, remember this person that Kory blamed Dick for having been raped. I think no relationship can survive after such a thing.
[QUOTE=L.H.;5116352]He treated Star badly? Is he serious? Kory had a state wedding, and Dick was the one suffering. Then, he was raped and the only thing Kory kept telling him was it was his fault. That's what ruined their relationship, imho. She was so selfish and cruel, I started hating her.
Next time, remember this person that Kory blamed Dick for having been raped. I think no relationship can survive after such a thing.[/QUOTE]
Here's Kory victim-blaming him.
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[QUOTE=L.H.;5116352]He treated Star badly? Is he serious? Kory had a state wedding, and Dick was the one suffering. Then, he was raped and the only thing Kory kept telling him was it was his fault. That's what ruined their relationship, imho. She was so selfish and cruel, I started hating her.
Next time, remember this person that Kory blamed Dick for having been raped. I think no relationship can survive after such a thing.[/QUOTE]
The problem here is that almost nobody in and out universe take seriously enough Dick's rape by Mirage (definitely, not the writer).
It is difficult to blame Kory when the writer doesn't even see the real problem.
Something similar happened with Dick's rape by Tarantula. I think Batman and Barbara were slut-shaming him too.
I forgot about the Mirage thing. Wow, that's twice Dick was raped. Poor bastard.
As for the Dick & Kori debate....there are no good answers here. After the wedding plans began to fall apart nobody there comes out looking good. We can debate whether one is more to blame than the other but the writer (were we still with Wolfman then, or had he taken his break at that point? I forget) dropped the ball and as far as I'm concerned, derailed both characters' trajectories.
They're both victims, not of events in the comics but of the beginning of the Titans' collapse.
[QUOTE=Ascended;5116475]I forgot about the Mirage thing. Wow, that's twice Dick was raped. Poor bastard.
As for the Dick & Kori debate....there are no good answers here. After the wedding plans began to fall apart nobody there comes out looking good. We can debate whether one is more to blame than the other but the writer (were we still with Wolfman then, or had he taken his break at that point? I forget) dropped the ball and as far as I'm concerned, derailed both characters' trajectories.
They're both victims, not of events in the comics but of the beginning of the Titans' collapse.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Wolfman was still writting at the time, the whole 130 issues, it was a mercy when it was over.
I can't see Nightwing ending up with anyone. He doesn't have that one true love like Batman and Superman. Even the popular Babs and Kori ships are ages ago in comics. DC just passes Nightwing from girl to girl. Batman Beyond didn't even care to tell who was his wife. I'm quite cold anyway to any Nightwing shipping. People hate him for being a "slut". But I know some good cool guys like him and Nightwing is normally the one who suffers more in the relationships. The girls are not thrown in the refrigerator, which cannot be said the same to Kyle Rayner, Spider-man or Daredevil. And the girls tend to be at the same level as Nightwing or just using him (Lmao).
[QUOTE=Konja7;5115682]They really want to dismiss Dick feelings toward Kory at that time.
In Gotham Kinghts (2000-2006) #43, Batman tells Barbara that Dick still love her and that "his thing with the alien won't last". It was a story set in the past when Jason was Robin.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what's more noticeable, Bruce playing a DickxBabs shipper or being so dismissive of Kori. What, were the Titans also just a phase?
People forgot about the woman who had sex with Dick when he was a minor. That is rape. Double standards? Smh right now.
[QUOTE=yohyoi;5116507]People forgot about the woman who had sex with Dick when he was a minor. That is rape. Double standards? Smh right now.[/QUOTE]
This is the first time i ever heard of that. Also superhero comics don't have a good trackrecord in dealing with male victims of sexual assault.
[QUOTE=TheCape;5116511]This is the first time i ever heard of that. Also superhero comics don't have a good trackrecord in dealing with male victims of sexual assault.[/QUOTE]
Liu. She took Dick's virginity and used him to access WayneCorp. Basically, Wolfman used her to explain why Dick has no stable relationship, etc.
[QUOTE=yohyoi;5116516]Liu. She took Dick's virginity and used him to access WayneCorp. Basically, Wolfman used her to explain why Dick has no stable relationship, etc.[/QUOTE]
I guess that would do it to a guy...
I still prefer Kori being his first, personally. With Babs maybe being his first kiss.
[QUOTE=yohyoi;5116516]Liu. She took Dick's virginity and used him to access WayneCorp. Basically, Wolfman used her to explain why Dick has no stable relationship, etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that story isn't very good. It looked like Marv didn't care and basically used the Nightwing title as a advertising to his new Vigilante series.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5116534]I guess that would do it to a guy...
I still prefer Kori being his first, personally. With Babs maybe being his first kiss.[/QUOTE]
Bette Kane is his first kiss, if i recall correctly.
[QUOTE=Drako;5116535]Bette Kane is his first kiss, if i recall correctly.[/QUOTE]
Is she? I know her Bat-Girl was meant to be a girlfriend-type for Robin like Batowman was for Batman, but Bette's affection for Dick in later comics always seemed completely like a one-sided crush.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5116536]Is she? I know her Bat-Girl was meant to be a girlfriend-type for Robin like Batowman was for Batman, but Bette's affection for Dick in later comics always seemed completely like a one-sided crush.[/QUOTE]
It was one-sided at first and she kissed him a lot against his will.
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I just found out Lost Carnival has a free digital preview issue
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Just wait for Titans season 3. Dawn and Dick shipping angered a lot of people even if there was no real relationship. Imagine if they do Babs in a Titans show instead of Kori. The amount of salt will reach Arrow season 4. Young Justice and DCAMU did it right. Young Justice focused on Babs with no Kori in sight. DCAMU focused on Kori with Babs only doing three second cameos. No ship war.
Or DC could risk it and try to create Dick's own Catwoman. But it will anger everyone so they don't do it. DC's play has been letting both side play it out without committing any side winning the war.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5116534]I guess that would do it to a guy...
I still prefer Kori being his first, personally. With Babs maybe being his first kiss.[/QUOTE]
If I'm not mistaken, it was mentioned Kori was the first in that Nightwin annual (where he cheats her with Barbara).
[QUOTE=yohyoi;5116555]
Or DC could risk it and try to create Dick's own Catwoman. But it will anger everyone so they don't do it. DC's play has been letting both side play it out without committing any side winning the war.[/QUOTE]
Shawn Tsang was basically his Catwoman and people hated, even in this forum.
Some really lost their mind when she thought she was pregnant.
Meh, everyone knows that Dick's true love is justice :p.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5116539]I just found out Lost Carnival has a free digital preview issue
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What's your opinion about Lost Carnival?
[QUOTE=TheCape;5116575]Meh, everyone knows that Dick's true love is justice :p.[/QUOTE]
Justice! That fickle B&*ch! She's supposed to be saving herself for Batman! :p
[QUOTE=dietrich;5116604]Justice! That fickle B&*ch! She's supposed to be saving herself for Batman! :p[/QUOTE]
Fickle?!, Batman was the one that decided to marry the woman in the catsuit, Justice owns him nothing after he broke his oath :D
I guess it's best if Dc reminds single. I mean it would be a good idea if they did do a storyline dealing with his rape. I mean Invincible does deal with Marcus's rape. So it would be a good idea for Dick. I mean it's not bad for them to revisit Kori or Babs. Has Diana has gone back to Steve. For a long time, she didn't have a love interest. But right now it's best not to give him anyone