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[QUOTE=manwhohaseverything;4781630]All my favourites are on it except jon. Top 3 the world finest was really big call back. They need to do that team up again. Clark, bruce and dick riding bicycles and stuff. It's sad that wally was once top 3. Now he is rank 8.dc is screwing him up[/QUOTE]
One of my hopes with 5G and the rumor about generational book is a relaunch of World's Finest with adventures of Superman, Batman and Robin with Dick as a new Robin. I won't get it, and this isn't the thread for that, so my current hope is that Flash Forward leaves Wally in a good spot for 2020.
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[QUOTE=manwhohaseverything;4781630]All my favourites are on it except jon. Top 3 the world finest was really big call back. They need to do that team up again. Clark, bruce and dick riding bicycles and stuff. It's sad that wally was once top 3. Now he is rank 8.dc is screwing him up[/QUOTE]
I think 6th is a fair effort considering the shit DC has heaped on Wally West since Flash Rebirth.
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[QUOTE=married guy;4781793]I think 6th is a fair effort considering the shit DC has heaped on Wally West since Flash Rebirth.[/QUOTE]
6th was till rebirth then it went down to 8th due to the bad treatment.
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[QUOTE=manwhohaseverything;4781810]6th was till rebirth then it went down to 8th due to the bad treatment.[/QUOTE]
6Th is the average of the four polls made as well. In the one made before Flash:Rebirth he was actually third.
What is interesting here, IMO, is that Barry only went up, Wally onlly went down, and he's still above Barry. Even for a CBR poll, I wouldn't have predicted that at this point.
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Three months later, only now I understand that Jai is holding the key to Savoth, which has been destroyed in Waid’s last issue.
I don’t know what it means but I would love to see Gorflak or S’kidd Flash again !
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So, in FF #5 :
[spoil]We learn Wally is the one who created where Jai and Irey are trapped, because his greatest fear was to lose his children. That’s why he was chosen, because he has to destroy this world. [/spoil]
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[QUOTE=Spider-Ham;4783618]So, in FF #5 :
[spoil]We learn Wally is the one who created where Jai and Irey are trapped, because his greatest fear was to lose his children. That’s why he was chosen, because he has to destroy this world. [/spoil][/QUOTE]
Feels like DC is scapegoating the kids.
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[QUOTE=BohemiaDrinker;4782393]6Th is the average of the four polls made as well. In the one made before Flash:Rebirth he was actually third.
What is interesting here, IMO, is that Barry only went up, Wally onlly went down, and he's still above Barry. Even for a CBR poll, I wouldn't have predicted that at this point.[/QUOTE]
Barry overtook him in the latest poll, but his avg still ends up lower. Unfortunately the poll reflects what DC was trying to accomplish with the Flash this past decade.
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[QUOTE=Godlike13;4784329]Barry overtook him in the latest poll, but his avg still ends up lower. Unfortunately the poll reflects what DC was trying to accomplish with the Flash this past decade.[/QUOTE]
It also reflects that they're failing, though.
Could you imagine this result, only with Wally and Barry reversed, in 1997?
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No it doesn’t. They took Barry from 29 to 5, and Wally from 3 to 8. They wanted to make Barry the predominant Flash, and the polls trend reflect that. Saddest thing is Wally was back by 2019 too.
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[QUOTE=Godlike13;4784363]No it doesn’t. They took Barry from 29 to 5, and Wally from 3 to 8. They wanted to make Barry the predominant Flash, and the polls trend reflect that. Saddest thing is Wally was back by 2019 too.[/QUOTE]
I think you didn't understand what I meant here:
Barry has been back for eleven years. It's pretty safe to assume that, eleven years into Wally's career, Barry would have been obliterated popularity wise. The "success" DC had here (of course, if we take this poll at face value, which is not scientific but is the closest we have) is way smaller than what they hoped fort, specially with how hard they tried.
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I doubt the we’re hoping to recapture the 90’s. Can’t really compare peaks that happened at different times in the industry. It doesn’t really matter if Barry is as popular as Wally was then, their goal was to make Barry the most popular Flash now.
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[QUOTE=king81992;4784027]Feels like DC is scapegoating the kids.[/QUOTE]
Honestly I don’t know. There’s something very ambiguous with this issue. I didn’t really understand everything like : are the twins really from New Earth or are they creations from the dark multiverse ? And we still don’t why HiC had an impact on this Dark Matter Earth.
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[QUOTE=Spider-Ham;4784467]Honestly I don’t know. There’s something very ambiguous with this issue. I didn’t really understand everything like : are the twins really from New Earth or are they creations from the dark multiverse ? And we still don’t why HiC had an impact on this Dark Matter Earth.[/QUOTE]
From what I understand, the kids are Dark Multiverse entities created from Wally's fear of losing his family and Wally must destroy them and the world they're trapped on.
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It's not over. He recreated his kids though.