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[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;5310551]Trump has that itch to scratch today and wants to perform and plead his case some Trump zombies. Oh, and maybe say something about Loeffler and Perdue before he shoves them off the stage. Trump needs his fix and they would just be in the way.[/QUOTE]
I don't think he cares at all about Loeffler and Perdue, and could just as easily try to destroy the Republicans chances in the runoff.
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[QUOTE=Kevinroc;5310608]I don't think he cares at all about Loeffler and Perdue, and could just as easily try to destroy the Republicans chances in the runoff.[/QUOTE]
Maybe we'll get lucky and he sabotages them to demonstrate to the GOP his hold on the base
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[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;5310551]Trump has that itch to scratch today and wants to perform and plead his case some Trump zombies. Oh, and maybe say something about Loeffler and Perdue before he shoves them off the stage. Trump needs his fix and they would just be in the way.[/QUOTE]
I was idly wondering what took so long for Trump to hold a rally, or what figures to be a super spreader event, given what happened in the past when he hit the road. This figures to be one of his last chances to bask in the glow of his lemmings before the 20th, so he’ll milk the opportunity for all it worth.
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[QUOTE=WestPhillyPunisher;5310690]I was idly wondering what took so long for Trump to hold a rally, or what figures to be a super spreader event, given what happened in the past when he hit the road. This figures to be one of his last chances to bask in the glow of his lemmings before the 20th, so he’ll milk the opportunity for all it worth.[/QUOTE]
He will continue to hold rallies after the 20th, as long as he gets some sucker donors to pay for them.
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[QUOTE=Kirby101;5310748]He will continue to hold rallies after the 20th, as long as he gets some sucker donors to pay for them.[/QUOTE]
Only he won't be able to do them while standing in front of Air Force One.
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[QUOTE=Kirby101;5310748]He will continue to hold rallies after the 20th, as long as he gets some sucker donors to pay for them.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if some one did equivalent in UK he’d be facing a heavy fine under the COVID regs (people who organise large parties can be fined up to 10000 quid.)
Certainly what he is doing is obviously more damaging than many things that result in heavy jail sentences.
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[QUOTE=Kevinroc;5310608]I don't think he cares at all about Loeffler and Perdue, and could just as easily try to destroy the Republicans chances in the runoff.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah. The rally is officially for Loeffler and Perdue, but Trump will likely spend most of his speech talking about how the Presidential election was rigged and he really won.
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[URL="https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/04/dc-police-boebert-glock-capitol-454563"]D.C. Police to contact GOP Rep. Boebert about plans to bring Glock to work[/URL]
[QUOTE]Washington D.C.'s police chief said Monday he intends to reach out to GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert about her intention to carry a Glock handgun in the city, which has strict limits on carrying concealed firearms.
Chief Robert Contee III, asked during a press conference about the newly-elected Colorado lawmaker’s plan to carry a gun to the Capitol, said he wants to ensure that "she is aware of the what the laws of the District of Columbia are."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"That Congresswoman will be subjected to the same penalties as anyone else that’s caught on the D.C. streets carrying a firearm," Contee said.
Boebert has made no secret of her intent to bring a handgun to the Capitol complex, where lawmakers are exempted from otherwise strict prohibitions on firearms, so long as they're stored in the members' offices and transported safely and unloaded. Democrats considered a change to the rules that would have barred even members of Congress from bringing guns to the Capitol, but the rules package introduced by House leaders last week included no change to the policy.
The current guidelines for weapons in the Capitol is set by the Capitol Police Board, which includes the sergeant-at-arms of the House and Senate, the architect of the Capitol and the chief of the Capitol Police. Lawmakers have been exempted by the board from the restrictions for decades.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mister Mets;5309686]Seth Abramson appears to be unreliable.
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It's a detail legal analysis which you don't refute, I doubt you even read. Instead you just use some ad hoc attacks on Abramson. Lawrence Tribe of Harvard agrees that Trump committing numerous crimes here. As do several members of Congress.
But then again. I don't reacall anything Trump has done that you thought was criminal.
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[URL="https://www.npr.org/2021/01/04/953119935/in-op-ed-10-ex-defense-secretaries-say-military-has-no-role-in-election-dispute"]Former Secretaries of Defense Ashton Carter, Dick Cheney, William Cohen, Robert Gates, Chuck Hagel, Leon Panetta, William Perry, Donald Rumsfeld & Two Pentagon heads who served under Trump — Jim Mattis and Mark Esper, say election is over, Trump lost, military has no role in US elections.[/URL]
The document was originated by ... [I]Vice President Cheney. [/I]
:O
You know you're a loser when ...
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[QUOTE=BeastieRunner;5310858][URL="https://www.npr.org/2021/01/04/953119935/in-op-ed-10-ex-defense-secretaries-say-military-has-no-role-in-election-dispute"]Former Secretaries of Defense Ashton Carter, Dick Cheney, William Cohen, Robert Gates, Chuck Hagel, Leon Panetta, William Perry, Donald Rumsfeld & Two Pentagon heads who served under Trump — Jim Mattis and Mark Esper, say election is over, Trump lost.[/URL]
The document was originated by ... [I]Vice President Cheney. [/I]
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You know you're a loser when ...[/QUOTE]
good lord, all of these neo-cons in that lineup. I'm not remotely calling Cheney and Rumsfeld "heroes" but at least they didn't co-sign on the post-election shenanigans (though they probably co-signed on much of what went on before that)..
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[QUOTE=Hypestyle;5310863]good lord, all of these neo-cons in that lineup. I'm not remotely calling Cheney and Rumsfeld "heroes" but at least they didn't co-sign on the post-election shenanigans (though they probably co-signed on much of what went on before that)..[/QUOTE]
"You grow a conscience when you leave politics. I should have left long ago. My party is broken and they broke me." -- John Boehner, January 2016.
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[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/04/business-leaders-support-biden-win/"]Business leaders urge Congress to certify Biden win[/URL]
[QUOTE]Much of the business community initially had a cordial relationship with Trump in the early days, coming to Washington for summits led by the president’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, and son-in-law Jared Kushner, and maneuvering to influence the Republican tax bill. They were pleased with some of Trump’s choices for top administration jobs, such as Gary Cohn as his first national economic adviser.
But there was a significant rift after Trump’s comments in Charlottesville on the protests by self-proclaimed white supremacists in the streets, and chief executives withdrew from his business council. There was also considerable frustration with the White House for capping the state and local tax deduction as part of the tax bill.
Trump has taken particular joy in having close ties with some business leaders such as Stephen Schwarzman, chief executive of the Blackstone Group. Schwarzman did not sign the letter, but the president and chief operating officer of his firm — Jonathan Gray — did.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kirby101;5310806]It's a detail legal analysis which you don't refute, I doubt you even read. Instead you just use some ad hoc attacks on Abramson. Lawrence Tribe of Harvard agrees that Trump committing numerous crimes here. As do several members of Congress.
But then again. I don't reacall anything Trump has done that you thought was criminal.[/QUOTE]A standard previously articulated on this board was that a newspaper article about a police bodycam video was illegitimate because the video was publicized on the TV show of someone unreliable.
[QUOTE=Kirby101;5293815]You are talking to someone who thought a State level Democrat wearing a t-shirt was proved the Democratic Party wanted completely open boarders.
So why not have Tucker Carlson as a source for News.[/QUOTE]
I personally believe that if Seth Abramson had been the one to release the conversation between President Trump and Brad Raffensperger, Abramson's reliability would be largely irrelevant to the discussion, because the important thing is the documents. However, when we're looking at someone's interpretation of legal statute, their reliability matters.
In response to a post that "Seth Abramson says criminal intent is provable" it is relevant to note that he appears to be notoriously unreliable, in that various news outlets that don't like Trump have criticized Abramson's approach (The New Republic, Slate, Paste and the Atlantic are not assortments of Trump defenders.) It's an appeal to authority in which the authority isn't much of one.
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[QUOTE=BeastieRunner;5310858][URL="https://www.npr.org/2021/01/04/953119935/in-op-ed-10-ex-defense-secretaries-say-military-has-no-role-in-election-dispute"]Former Secretaries of Defense Ashton Carter, Dick Cheney, William Cohen, Robert Gates, Chuck Hagel, Leon Panetta, William Perry, Donald Rumsfeld & Two Pentagon heads who served under Trump — Jim Mattis and Mark Esper, say election is over, Trump lost, military has no role in US elections.[/URL]
The document was originated by ... [I]Vice President Cheney. [/I]
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You know you're a loser when ...[/QUOTE]
An admirable bipartisan effort, one I applaud, problem is, Trump and the seditious Republicans attempting to overturn the election won’t pay that op-ed a second’s worthy of attention, and everyone knows it.