Who are your pics?
For me it's Piccolo from DBZ
Retsu from Baki
Green Arrow from DC comics
Who are your pics?
For me it's Piccolo from DBZ
Retsu from Baki
Green Arrow from DC comics
With the recent emergence of [URL="https://i.imgur.com/miJtDdw.png"]Billy McCallum and the hyperbolic, mangafied image of the Philly Shell in Hajime no Ippo[/URL] and his direct comparison to Floyd Mayweather Jr, I recalled how Kenta 'Clincher' Kobashi didn't enough play.
Granted, the hype factor of battle/sports manga is essential, and he broke Hayami's jaw and ruined his career before retiring gracefully, but dammit, I think it'd be hilarious to see the kid outpoint Miyata or something like that.
[center][B]Firestar[/B] from Marvel:
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[B]Azrael[/B] (JPV) from DC Comics:
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[B]Ray[/B] from Beyblade:
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Chad from Bleach really deserved a significant power boost at some point during the series.
I don't get the premise of this thread.
Like, taking an example of Retsu from the OP, Retsu has no business being in the top tier. He's not a Hanma, he's not prehistoric cave man, he's not a revived cloned super samurai and he's not... a big... sumo... man. Consistently, throughout the series, he's been on the threshold between Mid Card and Top Billing. If you can beat Retsu, you are a serious threat. If you can't you are in the mid card. That is, narratively, what he's essentially for.
Is the premise of the thread, who would you /like/ to see get a power boost? Because the wording "should have been upgraded a long time ago," is weird. I don't really get what we're discussing here.
[QUOTE=Dark Soul # 7;5145435]Chad from Bleach really deserved a significant power boost at some point during the series.[/QUOTE]
I mean, he did.
Twice. Remember him beating up Arrancar without issue?
[QUOTE=Nik Hasta;5145460]I mean, he did.
Twice. Remember him beating up Arrancar without issue?[/QUOTE]
True.
Then he ran into a proper bad guy and got crushed.
I think I just wanted Chad to be more relevant. At least he got a happy ending.
[QUOTE=Dark Soul # 7;5145467]True.
Then he ran into a proper bad guy and got crushed.
I think I just wanted Chad to be more relevant. At least he got a [B]happy ending[/B].[/QUOTE]
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Do agree with the Piccolo argument. Lord Slug was an early villain and a pretty good one but never got brought back. Piccolo should be able to reach that level and keep growing.
[QUOTE=CliffHanger2;5145519]Do agree with the Piccolo argument. Lord Slug was an early villain and a pretty good one but never got brought back. Piccolo should be able to reach that level and keep growing.[/QUOTE]
But he did?
Piccolo stayed somewhat relevant during a significant portion of the Android Saga and came back as a person of some relevance in Super. Wherever he is the power curve he's wildly beyond Lord Slug.
[QUOTE=Dark Soul # 7;5145467]True.
Then he ran into a proper bad guy and got crushed.
I think I just wanted Chad to be more relevant. At least he got a happy ending.[/QUOTE]
Hey, remember when Bleach was about the dynamic between Ichigo and his friends rather than a bunch of ghost magic nazis wanting to end the world? Ah, good times.
God bless the Rescue Rukia arc.
Though... with that said, if I'm being realistic; the problems of not having a cohesive ensemble cast dynamic was really established during that arc. We started so strong with the team powering up and invading Seireitei together and it was cool! And... and then Chad, Ishida and Orihime just fell off the story by the end of it and never really recovered for the. They got their fights in... well, Ishida did. Chad got a squash match against Shunsui and then neither of them did much of anything for the rest of the arc.
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Oh Bleach. I love you but also... wish you had been better.
[QUOTE=Nik Hasta;5145587]But he did?
Piccolo stayed somewhat relevant during a significant portion of the Android Saga and came back as a person of some relevance in Super. Wherever he is the power curve he's wildly beyond Lord Slug.[/QUOTE]
Okay I haven't kept up with the newer series. But he's still really way below Goku,Vegeta and even older Villains like Freiza. That have all powered up through the years. Unless I'm wrong but that's how it seems.
[QUOTE=CliffHanger2;5145600]Okay I haven't kept up with the newer series. But he's still really way below Goku,Vegeta and even older Villains like Freiza. That have all powered up through the years. Unless I'm wrong but that's how it seems.[/QUOTE]
Piccolo was stronger than Goku and Vegeta (and Frieza as well I guess) for about five minutes in the brief window after he had absorbed Kami but before the Sayains went into the hyperbolic time chamber.
After that point he stopped mattering until Super whereupon he, and many other random-ass characters got a soft proximity lift in power level just... y'know... because?
[QUOTE=Nik Hasta;5145594]Hey, remember when Bleach was about the dynamic between Ichigo and his friends rather than a bunch of ghost magic nazis wanting to end the world? Ah, good times.
God bless the Rescue Rukia arc.
Though... with that said, if I'm being realistic; the problems of not having a cohesive ensemble cast dynamic was really established during that arc. We started so strong with the team powering up and invading Seireitei together and it was cool! And... and then Chad, Ishida and Orihime just fell off the story by the end of it and never really recovered for the. They got their fights in... well, Ishida did. Chad got a squash match against Shunsui and then neither of them did much of anything for the rest of the arc.
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Oh Bleach. I love you but also... wish you had been better.[/QUOTE]
I personally always prefered the Arrancar arc... up until Aizen and his crew leave for the battle at the fake Karakura town.
Before that we're basically back to Ichigo's main circle of friends being being important. That is, maybe not in terms of pure power, but they all had their own story arcs and sense of agency. The stakes are higher and there's just enough involvement from the Shinigami for them to be fun additions without taking over everything. Then Ichigo gets involved with more benevolent criminals from Soul Society and he goes against direct orders from Yamamoto, and Chad and Ishida are right there with him because saving their friend is more than taking orders from some old genocide ghost grampa.
Then everything just devolved into fighting. Orihime, Chad and Ishida never really got to follow through on their character arcs (Orihime kinda did in the last arc but that's way too late). Rukia and Renji were also there.
There are so many things I love about Bleach, and I do still love it as a whole. But there are also lots of glaring flaws!
[QUOTE=JohnDiggle;5143555]Who are your pics?
For me it's Piccolo from DBZ
Retsu from Baki
Green Arrow from DC comics[/QUOTE]
Retsu's going to have to get upgraded posthumously...
[QUOTE=JohnDiggle;5143555]Who are your pics?
For me it's Piccolo from DBZ
Retsu from Baki
Green Arrow from DC comics[/QUOTE]
Piccolo is good, but I would also put in Future Trunks. In all honesty, he could (potentially) have his own spin off series.
Plus his ending in Super, be it anime or especially the manga, left a lot to be desired. At least in DBZ, they showed how he made his timeline a better place. In Super, we got speculative exposition as to what would happen when he "returned". But considering the circumstances, it would have been the perfect chance to make the Time Patrol (Dragon Ball Heroes and Xenoverse 1&2) canonical.