Wonder Woman - General Discussion

[QUOTE=Guy_McNichts;5815154]Yeah, when I say Marvel is good at capitalizing, I mean the movie division more than the comics. The movies are good at anticipating what audiences will latch onto and adapting. The comics...put it this way: off the heels of [I]WandaVision[/I], the comics killed Scarlet Witch. I'm sure she'll be back, but....

And, yeah, [I]Civil War II[/I] was a disaster as far as Carol was concerned...right in time for her movie, too. From the moment they announced that story and the premise, pretty much everyone knew there was no way she was coming out of that without coming across as the bad guy.

There's no guarantee Diana's status as a goddess or powerhouse would be respected either. Look at [I]Avengers vs. X-Men[/I] where Thor's entire role was getting his s**t thoroughly wrecked by everyone he faced. The Hulk once knocked Captain Marvel out (and into space) with a flick of his finger.


A reasonable comparison to what Marvel might do with Wonder Woman if they got her is Angela. When Neil Gaiman sold her rights, they introduced her in a big way. They made her out to be a beast and gave her a big push as Thor's long-lost sister and later the Queen of Hell. But, once the initial hype died down, she settled into a recurring character for the Guardians of the Galaxy.

I can see something similar happened to Diana. She'd get a big introduction. Probably be the centerpiece of an event. But once the buzz settled, they'd find a niche for her.
OR--and I can totally see Marvel doing this--decide Diana is too good for the sinful earth, have her ascend to a higher plane of existence and pass the mantle onto a young protege, and THAT character would be Marvel's Wonder Woman from then on.[/QUOTE]

I think in the comics. There would still be issues. Because comic writers still seem to struggle when it comes to portratying strong female powerhouses. They tend to write them as bitchy and angry. Like Bloodthirsty warrior Diana in some stories, or Nazi Carol in Civil War 2. But on the silver screen. I think Diana would fare way better. Because Disney is behind. And they have proven themselves capable of selling unknown character and make them shine as a big deal to the general audience. What they did with MCU Carol is far bigger than what DC and WB have done for Diana. I doubt we will ever see a DCEU Diana fighting Darkseid, the way Carol was able to do against Thanos. As long as WW is surrounded by people that only give lipservice about how big of a deal she is, but never put their money where their mouth is when the push comes to shove. We will never see an improvement.

[QUOTE=PopQuezy;5815029]Hence why I said the "general idea." I never said she must be bloodthirsty or collect heads. However, I do like the idea of following Diana/Wonder Woman through different wars throughout history. It'll also be cool to see how D.C. would adapt different Wonder Rogues at different points in time, i.e. how they reinterpreted Dr. Poison in the first Wonder Woman movie. It would be a great use of her immortality and exploring her character in a mini-series.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. I guess I get a tad reactionary whenever Snyder's Wonder-Woman-In-Name-Only is brought up in a manner that makes her seem like the "ideal" Diana. I know now that is not what you did, and I apologize for my reaction.

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5814887]I think it was clear that she was the winner on land in JL. But underwater, Aquaman should always have the uppderhand against any of the League imo.

[video=youtube;cpfODAZqe4w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpfODAZqe4w&t=75s&ab_channel=DCKids[/video]

She did kill him in Flashpoint
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWM1Tn91d6I&ab_channel=mistercustodian[/url]

And he never beat her on ground in JS, the battle was never truly over.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSAb4AAie6M&ab_channel=VeteranWolf[/url]

But I am surprised that they've fought so much in animation.[/QUOTE]

That was not clear but the DCAU Wonder Woman was just bland and weak anyway, and it would make no sense for Aquaman to win underwater against Wonder Woman, Superman, Green Lantern, Flash or Martian Manhunter either, except water would work like kryptonite for them. Because the pressure of the water should be neither enough to reduce their strength, nor their speed that much, and even less their special abilities or weapons.

They have also fought quite often in the comics and basically each of these fights was just bad written trash, and they didn't even make Aquaman look strong but just Wonder Woman weak and incompetent, and sometimes even both incompetent. I wouldn't even have a problem with good fights between Aquaman and Wonder Woman on land or underwater after he gets an upgrade, and i mean an upgrade that makes him consistently a believable threat to kryptonians or high Green Lanterns, but until then have i zero interest in even more fights were Wonder Woman just gets turned into a weak jobber let alone fights were both just look incompetent like this:

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[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5814887]I think it was clear that she was the winner on land in JL. But underwater, Aquaman should always have the uppderhand against any of the League imo.

[video=youtube;cpfODAZqe4w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpfODAZqe4w&t=75s&ab_channel=DCKids[/video]

She did kill him in Flashpoint
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWM1Tn91d6I&ab_channel=mistercustodian[/url]

And he never beat her on ground in JS, the battle was never truly over.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSAb4AAie6M&ab_channel=VeteranWolf[/url]

But I am surprised that they've fought so much in animation.[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ for the Justice League animated series. The fight was equal for them both until they hit the water. Then in seconds, Wondy was knocked out.

In the Justice Society movie, the fight on land was going Aquamans way and he would have won had not Steve Trevor interfered by ramming a car into her. Again, Wondy was beaten in seconds underwater when they fought.

As far as the flashpoint movie, again they were very evenly matched on the ground.

So it sounds to me like the higher ups in control of content on animation give Aquaman the upper hand in basically every encounter. If Diana is second in only strength to Superman (that made me laugh) and her other skills such as being the best melee fighter, reflexes and the like, Aquaman shouldn't even be much of an afterthought on a land situation. Water, I will concede, but only after they have a much better fight that is more than a few seconds.

[QUOTE=Rightoya;5815395]That was not clear but the DCAU Wonder Woman was just bland and weak anyway, and it would make no sense for Aquaman to win underwater against Wonder Woman, Superman, Green Lantern, Flash or Martian Manhunter either, except water would work like kryptonite for them. Because the pressure of the water should be neither enough to reduce their strength, nor their speed that much, and even less their special abilities or weapons.

They have also fought quite often in the comics and basically each of these fights was just bad written trash, and they didn't even make Aquaman look strong but just Wonder Woman weak and incompetent, and sometimes even both incompetent. I wouldn't even have a problem with good fights between Aquaman and Wonder Woman on land or underwater after he gets an upgrade, and i mean an upgrade that makes him consistently a believable threat to kryptonians or high Green Lanterns, but until then have i zero interest in even more fights were Wonder Woman just gets turned into a weak jobber let alone fights were both just look incompetent like this:

[IMG]https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-08b9514158d170cb5e6ab88e9bded5f3[/IMG][/QUOTE]

In JL TAS, Superman can't breathe underwater. Aquaman took WW to the depths of the ocean where the water pressure knocked her out as im sure it would've done to SM as well.

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5815508]In JL TAS, Superman can't breathe underwater. Aquaman took WW to the depths of the ocean where the water pressure knocked her out as im sure it would've done to SM as well.[/QUOTE]

If you say so.

Too bad Aquaman is also a beast on land against these heroes, in particular Wonder Woman!

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5815508]In JL TAS, Superman can't breathe underwater. Aquaman took WW to the depths of the ocean where the water pressure knocked her out as im sure it would've done to SM as well.[/QUOTE]

Let's not confuse Superman with how they treat WW nowadays. He can handle the pressure of the coean depths for sure. JS AQ was showing having the upper hand against WW on land. And SM easily one shotted AQ in JL cartoon on land. So yea, WW keeps getting nerfed.

[QUOTE=mystical41;5816135]Let's not confuse Superman with how they treat WW nowadays. He can handle the pressure of the coean depths for sure. JS AQ was showing having the upper hand against WW on land. And SM easily one shotted AQ in JL cartoon on land. So yea, WW keeps getting nerfed.[/QUOTE]

I never said anything outside Superman in the DCAU.

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5816221]I never said anything outside Superman in the DCAU.[/QUOTE]

It's not like we have much to say that could make WW look good.

I just finished watching the Spider-Man trailer. I'm indifferent to the movie; however, I thought how exciting would it be if Wonder Woman 3 was some type of Villainy Inc movie, and we got a trailer with like 4 or 5 Wonder Woman villains in it. Or, if in 20 years and two Wonder Woman reboots similar to Spider-Man right now, we got a multiverse Wonder Woman film.

Anyway, with it being reported that the Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron film is on hold indefinitely, I do hope she's taking inspiration on what can get the general audience excited for WW3.

[QUOTE=PopQuezy;5817939]I just finished watching the Spider-Man trailer. I'm indifferent to the movie; however, I thought how exciting would it be if Wonder Woman 3 was some type of Villainy Inc movie, and we got a trailer with like 4 or 5 Wonder Woman villains in it. Or, if in 20 years and two Wonder Woman reboots similar to Spider-Man right now, we got a multiverse Wonder Woman film.

Anyway, with it being reported that the Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron film is on hold indefinitely, I do hope she's taking inspiration on what can get the general audience excited for WW3.[/QUOTE]

Sadly WW hasnt really earned villainy Inc yet. Unless its Ares/Dr.Poison/Cheetah/New villain it wouldnt make sense to do anything else. Spiderman is dealing with villains from all the different Spiderman movies.

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5817957]Sadly WW hasnt really earned villainy Inc yet. Unless its Ares/Dr.Poison/Cheetah/New villain it wouldnt make sense to do anything else. Spiderman is dealing with villains from all the different Spiderman movies.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, it's not like they have to give each villain an individual movie. Bloodlines had a fully formed Villany Inc without giving them much backstory.

[QUOTE=PopQuezy;5817939]I just finished watching the Spider-Man trailer. I'm indifferent to the movie; however, I thought how exciting would it be if Wonder Woman 3 was some type of Villainy Inc movie, and we got a trailer with like 4 or 5 Wonder Woman villains in it. Or, if in 20 years and two Wonder Woman reboots similar to Spider-Man right now, we got a multiverse Wonder Woman film.

Anyway, with it being reported that the Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron film is on hold indefinitely, I do hope she's taking inspiration on what can get the general audience excited for WW3.[/QUOTE]

What was Patty's inspiration for WW84? She had such a good first movie outing in Wonder Woman that she literally squandered all the good faith she built up with the dreck that was WW84. We keep hoping that the 3rd time will be a charm, but I just hope that because people have low expectations based on WW84 that anything will be considered 'good'. We don't just need good, we need the first 2/3 of Wonder Woman good like the original movie and make the 3rd act really awesome this time!

[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;5818342]What was Patty's inspiration for WW84? She had such a good first movie outing in Wonder Woman that she literally squandered all the good faith she built up with the dreck that was WW84. We keep hoping that the 3rd time will be a charm, but I just hope that because people have low expectations based on WW84 that anything will be considered 'good'. We don't just need good, we need the first 2/3 of Wonder Woman good like the original movie and make the 3rd act really awesome this time![/QUOTE]

I honestly don't think Patty Jenkins has it in her and I enjoyed WW 1984. She's just not good at directing comic book action the way it needs to be done. Her sensibilites are too soft. Looking at the seemless execution of battles in Eternals and then a clip of Wonder Woman's herky jerky bad cgi highway rescue scene let me know she's not up to the job.

By sensibilities I mean the giant teddy bear that just happens to be in the right place to catch the kid WW throws into it, the build-up the highly precious Amazon artifact eagle armor got only to be destroyed in 3 minutes then forgotten about, the invisibility power that comes out of nowhere and the coup de grâce violation of the scarf guy. Stuff obviously isn't thought through enough.

[QUOTE=Psy-lock;5818208]To be fair, it's not like they have to give each villain an individual movie. Bloodlines had a fully formed Villany Inc without giving them much backstory.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't that big of a fan of Bloodlines lol. Plus a dtv is a lot more comic fan heavy compared to a big movie where most of the audience won't know who most of these villains are.

[QUOTE=Koriand'r;5818442]I honestly don't think Patty Jenkins has it in her and I enjoyed WW 1984. She's just not good at directing comic book action the way it needs to be done. Her sensibilites are too soft. Looking at the seemless execution of battles in Eternals and then a clip of Wonder Woman's herky jerky bad cgi highway rescue scene let me know she's not up to the job.

By sensibilities I mean the giant teddy bear that just happens to be in the right place to catch the kid WW throws into it, the build-up the highly precious Amazon artifact eagle armor got only to be destroyed in 3 minutes then forgotten about, the invisibility power that comes out of nowhere and the coup de grâce violation of the scarf guy. Stuff obviously isn't thought through enough.[/QUOTE]
If what you say is true, then WW3 will be another boring mess. With bad cgi, plot holes and badly done action scenes. And that is not going to look good for WW 2 and a half times in a row. I say 2 and a half since the first WW had no man's land. But other than that, most of WW action in the dceu has been pretty forgettable. And if ww3 follows the same path, things are not looking good for this franchise.

[QUOTE=Koriand'r;5818442]I honestly don't think Patty Jenkins has it in her and I enjoyed WW 1984. She's just not good at directing comic book action the way it needs to be done. Her sensibilites are too soft. Looking at the seemless execution of battles in Eternals and then a clip of Wonder Woman's herky jerky bad cgi highway rescue scene let me know she's not up to the job.

By sensibilities I mean the giant teddy bear that just happens to be in the right place to catch the kid WW throws into it, the build-up the highly precious Amazon artifact eagle armor got only to be destroyed in 3 minutes then forgotten about, the invisibility power that comes out of nowhere and the coup de grâce violation of the scarf guy. Stuff obviously isn't thought through enough.[/QUOTE]

Well, there are some differences between WW1984 and the Eternals. One had a competent studio behind her that understands it product and the other has creative teams doing their own thing. Zhao being a new director herself benefited from working with Marvel Studios. Where Jenkins had full creative control and resulted in a mess.

Patty is no worse than many other newbie-to-action-blockbuster directors who get entrusted to do big superhero tentpoles. I mean, [I]Eternals[/I] is the worst-reviewed MCU film ever (47 % Rotten), while [I]Wonder Woman[/I] is still to this day the DCEU's crown jewel (93 % Certified Fresh). Patty is great at directing character moments, but she needs a capable screenwriter who knows about designing and constructing action scenes (I am still dumbfounded that Allan Heinberg was replaced for WW2). I am hopeful that WB chooses carefully who the people surrounding Jenkins will be for WW3. They need to learn from their WW84 mistakes and give Jenkins action coordinators/fight choreographers who kick ass, as well as a solid writer (bring Heinberg back!).

[QUOTE=HestiasHearth;5818615]Patty is no worse than many other newbie-to-action-blockbuster directors who get entrusted to do big superhero tentpoles. I mean, [I]Eternals[/I] is the worst-reviewed MCU film ever (47 % Rotten), while [I]Wonder Woman[/I] is still to this day the DCEU's crown jewel (93 % Certified Fresh). Patty is great at directing character moments, but she needs a capable screenwriter who knows about designing and constructing action scenes (I am still dumbfounded that Allan Heinberg was replaced for WW2). I am hopeful that WB chooses carefully who the people surrounding Jenkins will be for WW3. They need to learn from their WW84 mistakes and give Jenkins action coordinators/fight choreographers who kick ass, as well as a solid writer (bring Heinberg back!).[/QUOTE]

For better or worse, WW84 was all on Patty Jenkins. And while Wonder Woman may be certified fresh (I liked the movie, 3rd act notwithstanding), WW84 was anything but certified fresh.

It does leave me less than hopeful that she can deliver a great comic book action movie as well as story.

Eternals is being torn apart in a similar way as WW84. They complain that eternals is too long, has plot holes, lacking action etc. So if anything, they help to prove along with WW84. That a comic book movie needs its big spectacle action moments.

[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;5818646]For better or worse, WW84 was all on Patty Jenkins. And while Wonder Woman may be certified fresh (I liked the movie, 3rd act notwithstanding), WW84 was anything but certified fresh.

It does leave me less than hopeful that she can deliver a great comic book action movie as well as story.[/QUOTE]

So she makes a great WW film and a bad one (50/50), but people are convinced that she will once again make a bad one? Why not hope for the best instead of the worst? We still don't know who the crew will be for WW3. What about benefit of the doubt, at least until we know who will be the official writer of the film.

[QUOTE=HestiasHearth;5818662]So she makes a great WW film and a bad one (50/50), but people are convinced that she will once again make a bad one? Why not hope for the best instead of the worst? We still don't know who the crew will be for WW3. What about benefit of the doubt, at least until we know who will be the official writer of the film.[/QUOTE]

We have nothing to lose. But i will say this. The first film was good for an origin story where WW was only starting to discover her poewers. The overall action wasn't that great. Especially the 3rd act. So overall, there is a trackrecord with DCEU WW not having great raw power moments. As most of her feats are done with gear. That is where Jenkins hasn't proven herself. She hasn't proven that she can actually deliver powerhouse WW action scenes. Same happened with snyder. His WW was all about the weapons, not her raw power which wasn't that impressive.

[QUOTE=HestiasHearth;5818662]So she makes a great WW film and a bad one (50/50), but people are convinced that she will once again make a bad one? Why not hope for the best instead of the worst? We still don't know who the crew will be for WW3. What about benefit of the doubt, at least until we know who will be the official writer of the film.[/QUOTE]

Normally I would agree, but as far as action goes WW fared better under everyone other than Patty Jenkins. It's a controversial opinion but the Amazon rugby scene is more spectacular than anything in either WW film. So is the heist with hostages defended by bullets and bracelets as well as her first appearance in BvS.

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5818499]I wasn't that big of a fan of Bloodlines lol. Plus a dtv is a lot more comic fan heavy compared to a big movie where most of the audience won't know who most of these villains are.[/QUOTE]

Well, a big movie would have much more screen time to flesh out the villains. I think it can work if the team is about 4-5 members and two of them are familiar faces.

[QUOTE=HestiasHearth;5818662]So she makes a great WW film and a bad one (50/50), but people are convinced that she will once again make a bad one? Why not hope for the best instead of the worst? We still don't know who the crew will be for WW3. What about benefit of the doubt, at least until we know who will be the official writer of the film.[/QUOTE]

The first Wonder Woman movie was good, not great, but still, Patty built up a good amount of hope for the 2nd movie. When that turned out to be what it was, and to say it was bad is me giving it the benefit of the doubt, lost alot of good will built upon the first movie.

As others have stated, Patty hasn't shown she can do action well. No mans land worked out pretty well for her because it was an iconic moment, but when you break it down, it's Wonder Woman rushing through with her shield doing most of the action. The scene in the town was a bit better. But overall, the action scenes wasn't what made the 1st movie good in my opinion.

The 2nd movies action scenes were just lousy. Her debut as the friendly neighborhood Wondy-woman in the mall was just hokey. Her fight scene with Cheetah was terrible. The highway scene with the caravan and saving the obviously fake kids....need I say more (wow...depowered not only in the comics but on the big screen). Then you have plotholes galore, and while some may argue that there is always plotholes you can point out in movies, but in this case the movie had more holes than a block of swiss cheese.

I hope the third movie will be a good movie, but if she has control like she did with WW84, then I don't have that much hope. And yet I will go see it when it comes out, just repeat viewings like I did for the first one has to be earned!

[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;5818852]The first Wonder Woman movie was good, not great, but still, Patty built up a good amount of hope for the 2nd movie. When that turned out to be what it was, and to say it was bad is me giving it the benefit of the doubt, lost alot of good will built upon the first movie.

As others have stated, Patty hasn't shown she can do action well. No mans land worked out pretty well for her because it was an iconic moment, but when you break it down, it's Wonder Woman rushing through with her shield doing most of the action. The scene in the town was a bit better. But overall, the action scenes wasn't what made the 1st movie good in my opinion.

The 2nd movies action scenes were just lousy. Her debut as the friendly neighborhood Wondy-woman in the mall was just hokey. Her fight scene with Cheetah was terrible. The highway scene with the caravan and saving the obviously fake kids....need I say more (wow...depowered not only in the comics but on the big screen). Then you have plotholes galore, and while some may argue that there is always plotholes you can point out in movies, but in this case the movie had more holes than a block of swiss cheese.

I hope the third movie will be a good movie, but if she has control like she did with WW84, then I don't have that much hope. And yet I will go see it when it comes out, just repeat viewings like I did for the first one has to be earned![/QUOTE]

According to this Collider Report: [URL="https://collider.com/patty-jenkins-rogue-squadron-delayed-creative-differences/"]Patty Jenkins’ ‘Rogue Squadron’ Reportedly Delayed Due to Creative Differences[/URL] Patty still has some level of creative freedom on WW3.

"Jenkins wasn’t willing to dick around, and she has other projects, notably Wonder Woman 3 at Warner Bros., where she enjoys more creative freedom. (Disney and personal representatives for Jenkins and Kennedy declined to comment.)"

Granted Collider isn't Hollywood Reporter or Variety; however, I'm certain they are still bound to journalistic integretity. Personally, I hope Jenkins keeps it character-focused while including big set pieces. Maybe an opening battle with Silver Swan for a big show of might before Circe as the main antagonist.

[QUOTE=PopQuezy;5818879]According to this Collider Report: [URL="https://collider.com/patty-jenkins-rogue-squadron-delayed-creative-differences/"]Patty Jenkins’ ‘Rogue Squadron’ Reportedly Delayed Due to Creative Differences[/URL] Patty still has some level of creative freedom on WW3.

"Jenkins wasn’t willing to dick around, and she has other projects, notably Wonder Woman 3 at Warner Bros., where she enjoys more creative freedom. (Disney and personal representatives for Jenkins and Kennedy declined to comment.)"

Granted Collider isn't Hollywood Reporter or Variety; however, I'm certain they are still bound to journalistic integretity. Personally, I hope Jenkins keeps it character-focused while including big set pieces. Maybe an opening battle with Silver Swan for a big show of might before Circe as the main antagonist.[/QUOTE]

I've gotta wonder if Patty or the people from DC movies have heard the criticism of WW84 and try to correct the ship? If not, then that is putting on the blinders.

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[QUOTE=Gaius;5820361][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEfCjabVUAgtHOE?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Wonder Woman looks great, and I loved how she jump ropes with the Lasso as her win pose. I also like that the Lasso can save comrades from "death." The little I could hear of Abby's voice sounded great; although, I wish they could have gotten Susan E. for Wonder Woman. Looking forward to the game.

[QUOTE=PopQuezy;5820374]Wonder Woman looks great, and I loved how she jump ropes with the Lasso as her win pose. I also like that the Lasso can save comrades from "death." The little I could hear of Abby's voice sounded great; although, I wish they could have gotten Susan E. for Wonder Woman. Looking forward to the game.[/QUOTE]

What game is this? Online?

[QUOTE=Gaius;5820361][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEfCjabVUAgtHOE?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Diana's your girl :cool:.

I'm cool with Abby Trott, but weirdly she's like the only non-reprisal in the game other than Steven Universe. [url=https://twitter.com/AbbyTrott/status/1461397263830319106]Even she's not sure how this happened.[/url]

[QUOTE=Frontier;5820433]Diana's your girl :cool:.

I'm cool with Abby Trott, but weirdly she's like the only non-reprisal in the game other than Steven Universe. [url=https://twitter.com/AbbyTrott/status/1461397263830319106]Even she's not sure how this happened.[/url][/QUOTE]

I was waiting to joke Esienberg finally gets to voice a Diana who doesn't suck but then it looks like WW's the only recast.

lol, hopefully she's better than Korra's VA was at least.

[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;5820377]What game is this? Online?[/QUOTE]

Multiversus is a WB Franchises platform fighting game similar to Super Smash Brothers from Nintendo if you're familiar with video games at all. Diana/Wonder Woman is one of the starting cast characters, and what I believe is supposed to be Themsycira is one of the locales you can fight. There's a huge statue of Diana there, so I'm making an assumption. It's a Free to Play game with online. The video below has footage and a more thorough explanation.

[video=youtube_share;IQ5zCua6s6s]https://youtu.be/IQ5zCua6s6s[/video]

[QUOTE=Gaius;5820442]I was waiting to joke Esienberg [B]finally gets to voice a Diana who doesn't suck [/B]but then it looks like WW's the only recast.

lol, hopefully she's better than Korra's VA was at least.[/QUOTE]
[I]Superman/Batman: Apocalypse[/I]?

[QUOTE=Frontier;5820531][I]Superman/Batman: Apocalypse[/I]?[/QUOTE]

The same movie where she attempts kidnap someone, based off a Jeff Loeb comic, you consider a good WW portrayal? :p

Well, I guess she isn't falling head over heels for Supes and Bats in that movie, so marginal improvement over the DCAU and Taylor's Injustice...

[QUOTE=Gaius;5820574]The same movie where she attempts kidnap someone, based off a Jeff Loeb comic, you consider a good WW portrayal? :p

Well, I guess she isn't falling head over heels for Supes and Bats in that movie, so marginal improvement over the DCAU and Taylor's Injustice...[/QUOTE]
Well, to train Supergirl in the Amazonian ways. Seems forgivable ;).

That and this:

[video=youtube_share;jzTkCprvr0Q]https://youtu.be/jzTkCprvr0Q[/video]

[QUOTE=Gaius;5820574]The same movie where she attempts kidnap someone, based off a Jeff Loeb comic, you consider a good WW portrayal? :p

Well, I guess she isn't falling head over heels for Supes and Bats in that movie, so marginal improvement over the DCAU and Taylor's Injustice...[/QUOTE]

I loved WW in that movie/comic lol. She and the Amazons were able to take care of Superman, showed what a potential danger a new Kryptonian was, took down all those Doomsdays and Diana was Queen.

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5820779]I loved WW in that movie/comic lol. She and the Amazons were able to take care of Superman, showed what a potential danger a new Kryptonian was, took down all those Doomsdays and Diana was Queen.[/QUOTE]

Actually, it was Superman who took down 'all' the Doomsdays. As far as we know, the amazons had deaths and/or injuries from the battle with the Doomsdays.

Funny that Batman was able to take on a Doomsday with an axe. What a man!! (sarcasm implied)

[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;5821319]Actually, it was Superman who took down 'all' the Doomsdays. As far as we know, the amazons had deaths and/or injuries from the battle with the Doomsdays.

Funny that Batman was able to take on a Doomsday with an axe. What a man!! (sarcasm implied)[/QUOTE]

He took down most of them but she and the amazons also took down plenty. Its not meant as a definitive every single one

[QUOTE=Primal Slayer;5821510]He took down most of them but she and the amazons also took down plenty. Its not meant as a definitive every single one[/QUOTE]

Not sure how the amazons were able to take down any. If the Doomsdays weren't glass mirror image copies like in the latest Wonder Woman comic, not one of them should have been able to hurt one of these Doomsdays, save for Diana. That includes the Batgod!