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[QUOTE=Ororo101;5772407]Lol thank you both, sometimes it is strange how much of a fully realized person she seems to be in my mind. I’ve loved this character from my earliest memories in life! She probably is perceived differently by every one of us but yeah that’s the woman I grew up loving with my whole heart. Funny how much these fictional characters can mean to you after decades of growing with them through life. I understand sometimes why people get so defensive about them because it really does feel like “Aw hellllll no, you not gonna drag my bestie like this. NOT on my watch!!” Lmaoooo[/QUOTE]
She’s grown a lot in those decades, especially in the 21st century where finally decided to address she descends from a long line of sorceress priestesses and is more than just a mutant. Now with the X-Men books becoming very Star Wars it’s amazing to see her as Regent of Sol.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5772707]its so very funny. I have to remind myself at times miss ro is not real and not to get to emotional when discussions involving her go left lol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WallStreeter;5772729]She’s grown a lot in those decades, especially in the 21st century where finally decided to address she descends from a long line of sorceress priestesses and is more than just a mutant. Now with the X-Men books becoming very Star Wars it’s amazing to see her as Regent of Sol.[/QUOTE]
It really is! I’m almost embarrassed to admit how physically happy it makes me when I see her prosper and grow. It really is like getting to see an old friend succeed and achieve everything you knew they always had the potential to do. And thereby inspiring me to try and accomplish things in my own life that I otherwise dare not. That’s the magic of superheroes I guess! They can encourage us to be the best versions of ourselves.
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[QUOTE=Stormrocks;5772559]This is an intriguing question.
The two words are very similar and have been used interchangeable. However, there is a very subtle nuanced difference between the two.
Godhood: the state of being a god or God.
Godhead: Divine essence or nature.
The easiest way I can explain it is to think of the Pope. Per the Catholic church, he has godhead, but he doesn't have godhood.
Now, I am not clear on the way Marvel uses the words. I don't know if they've used them differently to drive a distinct difference.[/QUOTE]
You didn't post the full definition
Godhood is the state of being a god; divinity while godhead is divinity or godhood, divine essence or nature.
Godhead and Godhood are synonyms of each other. They mean the exact thing.
In Marvel, the godhead is the divine status a god is born with or passed down from generations. While they still have godhood. Which probably as black panther said to Storm, goes beyond her mutation.
In marvel gods, demons, and abstracts divinity is stated to be ordained and embedded into their nature.
Anyone can achieve godhood in Marvel by being ascended beings. You have to stockpile magic which magic is everywhere in the multiverse. All beings are in competition to do this. This is why the Vishanti ascended past godhood by collecting so much magic. Mutants, magicians, and Scientists too can wield godhood powers.
Godhood in marvel isn't just limited to being a god while something like a godhead is born with.
You can strip the powers of a mutant and scientist but I don't believe you can fully strip a godhead from gods. I guess the godhead is something that allows a god to get stronger with worship and prayer.
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5773156]You didn't post the full definition
Godhood is the state of being a god; divinity while godhead is divinity or godhood, divine essence or nature.
Godhead and Godhood are synonyms of each other. They mean the exact thing.
In Marvel, the godhead is the divine status a god is born with or passed down from generations. While they still have godhood. Which probably as black panther said to Storm, goes beyond her mutation.
In marvel gods, demons, and abstracts divinity is stated to be ordained and embedded into their nature.
Anyone can achieve godhood in Marvel by being ascended beings. You have to stockpile magic which magic is everywhere in the multiverse. All beings are in competition to do this. This is why the Vishanti ascended past godhood by collecting so much magic. Mutants, magicians, and Scientists too can wield godhood powers.
Godhood in marvel isn't just limited to being a god while something like a godhead is born with.
You can strip the powers of a mutant and scientist but I don't believe you can fully strip a godhead from gods. I guess the godhead is something that allows a god to get stronger with worship and prayer.[/QUOTE]
So omega mutants and scientist supremes and sorcerer supremes can achieve godhood or godhood realness but aren't actually gods due to the lack of a godhead?
Hence why they are usually termed as godlike eg. Sentry, jean grey, magneto, hulk...etc.
But a hero Iike storm is an actual god as she was born with a godhead meaning she is of a divine nature and as such must be worshiped.
I want to ask too does this mean that those with natural godheads have godly reserved of mystic power?
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[QUOTE=Stormrocks;5772559]This is an intriguing question.
The two words are very similar and have been used interchangeable. However, there is a very subtle nuanced difference between the two.
Godhood: the state of being a god or God.
Godhead: Divine essence or nature.
The easiest way I can explain it is to think of the Pope. Per the Catholic church, he has godhead, but he doesn't have godhood.
Now, I am not clear on the way Marvel uses the words. I don't know if they've used them differently to drive a distinct difference.[/QUOTE]
I see soo godhead is a nature the source if you will, and godhood is the status.
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[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;5771792]Wait she can't shoot lava? I've been lied to.[/QUOTE]
LOL, if she could the Vs. Boards would be on fire.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5773245]So omega mutants and scientist supremes and sorcerer supremes can achieve godhood or godhood realness but aren't actually gods due to the lack of a godhead?
Hence why they are usually termed as godlike eg. Sentry, jean grey, magneto, hulk...etc.
But a hero Iike storm is an actual god as she was born with a godhead meaning she is of a divine nature and as such must be worshiped.
I want to ask too does this mean that those with natural godheads have godly reserved of mystic power?[/QUOTE]
Well, even gods' powers are still described as godlike like Storm, Zeus, Odin, Elder Gods, and more. god itself in fiction is a very vague term. There are also many branches of gods as I would assume in power.
Gods with godhead powers are mystical that is true. They are naturally embedded with affinity to control mystical energies. Mutants can just become super powerful to where they reach godhood. Franklin's mutant powers are described as godhood or Mad Jim Jaspers. Richard Reed as the maker achieved godhood. But even humans can achieve godhood by collecting magic. Another good way in boosting your way into godhood is by collecting followers. Like Storm achieved godhood when she dispersed Adversary otherworldly storm over Wakanda with the hopes of Wakandans. She called it faith and divinity. She fully unlocked her godhead with the Wakandans actively praying to her to defeat Adversary.
So yeah mutants, superhumans, magicians, scientists, and humans (or other beings across the multiverse) can all achieve godhood status either by coming really powerful in their way or finding a way to collect magical energy and followers.
Godhood isn't just limited to gods while I think godhead is. I think marvel should go into more depth about it. Because even godhood has different meanings. Meryln is supposedly a "god" and his daughter Roma stated he wanted to achieve godhood with energy matrix.
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[QUOTE=LadyXKerrigan;5772584]Thanks for the heads up on the delays ahahaha my LCS partner and I can have perhaps a rest before the influx...i really appreciate their patience...anyways two things i have in mind
1. The skybreaker -- another fan asked about if they are gonna touch on this again -- assuming the canon of TLA it wont but for the sake of peace -- do you guys also read fan fiction? Coz this Storm and Black Panther: Everything Else can Wait by MAB86 fan fiction is one of the best fan made follow up -- hahaha I recommend -- not just because it is biased over my liking of this One true pairing -- but they were both written like true adults here -- I know people want resolution over the "issue" but if there is no "issue" at all then there is none -- to me the act was cause and effect -- she called, tchalla did not answer, she stole it, shuri got in the way, she saved the world at the expense of her relationship being strained after all she helped the wakandans at the expense of tchalla being too busy even for her calls -- we need a fix or we do not -- to me they are both adults who can look past their need for vengeance over things that happened -- this fan fic says it all -- coz it could just be a small cost to pay than rehashing on the smallest of stuff every single time -- and that was portrayed here...remembering as well the times that she openly expressed to Xavier that she doesnt feel it was right to steal for Xaviers goals -- anyways thats my closure thoughts on that "issue" -- id rather settle that it would have been an issue too small to return to than progressing her forward -- thoughts?
2. Sword #8 and the knives -- now this I had a hard time -- but a fellow fan helped me to understand and accept -- the fellow fan mentioned to accept her knife skills as her secondary mutation -- now that is one of the things Ive never thought -- given that in that issue as well, we see the potential of Tarn giving her an actual upgrade -- i know I dont want it at first -- and that is so far from what I imagine or what I am reading how her godhood would be better as development and my basis was of some other character who had been in the same evolution manipulation dilemma and I survived it and to this day that other character is beloved -- have you guys thought about her secondary mutation as well? Coz the knives ala MCU hella is awesome Potential good or bad? Are we ready for it? Btw for those who know the other character its in the user name *wink* wink* i just got too inspired how I never saw them to be almost the same except for the vengeance part -- so enjoy the fan fic while we wait in vain for more storm content -- hiatus time!!![/QUOTE]
Part of me strongly agrees with your friend. While I love that Storm is OFFICIALLY a goddess, has the gift of Godhead, and stands among the pantheon of Wakandan gods I prefer focus on her omega level mutant weather manipulation and combat skills. I wouldn’t want her martial combat ability to be considered a secondary mutation though. I think her power and skillset is quite unique, and being in this new role it would be a shame to not see her use them on the galactic/universal stage.
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[QUOTE]Who else from around the Marvel Universe are we going to see in BLACK PANTHER LEGENDS?
I am so excited for y’all to meet Storm in BLACK PANTHER LEGENDS. Going back to the question of how do you tackle a story that’s been done so many times before, there have been several instances in which we’ve seen that initial meet-cute between T’Challa and Ororo. This was an opportunity to do that, but new. The way we were able to pull it off—I don’t really want to say anything beyond that, I don’t want to get into spoilers, but it’s something that will make readers very happy.
We wanted to make sure Storm was a character in her own right, that this is a book where she didn’t exist solely to serve his character development. I think that’s a trap writers can sometimes fall into, particularly with hero books, that you’ll have these compelling female or nonbinary characters who exist only for the hero’s character development, or they’re plot devices. We worked really hard to make sure that wasn’t the case here. The Ororo you meet here is compelling with her own desires and hopes and fears and wishes and dreams. I’m really proud of how we were able to pull that off. We will meet the Fantastic Four as well in this series![/QUOTE]
From Tochi Onyebuchi interview
[url]https://www.marvel.com/amp/articles/comics/tochi-onyebuchi-black-panther-legends-interview?linkId=135785055&__twitter_impression=true[/url]
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[QUOTE=xfire2k13;5773560]From Tochi Onyebuchi interview
[url]https://www.marvel.com/amp/articles/comics/tochi-onyebuchi-black-panther-legends-interview?linkId=135785055&__twitter_impression=true[/url][/QUOTE]
Ahahaha I just saw this article and skipped through that part (as usual)...and my whole being is so ready for them!!!
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I guess Ororo is gonna have to keep spanking the Arakki. :)
From SWORD #9 preview.
[IMG]https://www.comicsxf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/0004-674x1024.jpg[/IMG]
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It's time Storm says:
"I've had enough of these challenges...they waste my time and energy. As Voice of Sol, I have far more pressing things to which I must attend."
*then she lines up ALL her challengers in the CP and kills them one by one. Shocking, horrifying and inspiring the Arakkii once and for all.
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[QUOTE=Jbenito;5774295]I guess Ororo is gonna have to keep spanking the Arakki. :)
From SWORD #9 preview.
[IMG]https://www.comicsxf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/0004-674x1024.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing, but I don't understand a thing, all mutants can challenge the ring, but only omega mutants can sit in it?
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5774320]It's time Storm says:
"I've had enough of these challenges...they waste my time and energy. As Voice of Sol, I have far more pressing things to which I must attend."
*then she lines up ALL her challengers in the CP and kills them one by one. Shocking, horrifying and inspiring the Arakkii once and for all.[/QUOTE]
I agree, it reminds me of her solo where she didn't like it when Yukio reopened these kinds of "gladiodor" events lol
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storm looks stunning in that preview and these children need to step off. im surprised they still want to test her as well after her battle with tarn.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5774320]It's time Storm says:
"I've had enough of these challenges...they waste my time and energy. As Voice of Sol, I have far more pressing things to which I must attend."
*then she lines up ALL her challengers in the CP and kills them one by one. Shocking, horrifying and inspiring the Arakkii once and for all.[/QUOTE]
It's time for mamacita to do that.
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In place of the Storm I would have made a pyroclastic cloud to engulf all Arakkis who tried to claim the title of ruler of Arakko.
It would melt and bury them all with the ashes, petrifying them without any mercy, as happened to the inhabitants of Pompeii.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5774460]Thanks for sharing, but I don't understand a thing, all mutants can challenge the ring, but only omega mutants can sit in it?
l[/QUOTE]
Maybe they believe they can kill her then have an arakii omega kill them for the seat and the throne. They simply do not understand why a krakoan rules.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5774462]storm looks stunning in that preview and these children need to step off. im surprised they still want to test her as well after her battle with tarn.[/QUOTE]
I feel like it's gonna be a status symbol now as storm is the baddest on arakko after defeating tarn without her powers. Just confronting her ie enough to lift ones social status .
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Inspired by the Worlds Apart motion comic post, I found this video clip using the voice actress Marion Toro. Interesting sculpt as well. Like the hairstyle detail...
[video=youtube_share;7p60-b0fzbA]https://youtu.be/7p60-b0fzbA[/video]
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[QUOTE=Jbenito;5774295]I guess Ororo is gonna have to keep spanking the Arakki. :)
From SWORD #9 preview.
[IMG]https://www.comicsxf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/0004-674x1024.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I know she is "retired"but I would love to see the former seat holder Genesis and Storm interact.
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5775064]I know she is "retired"but I would love to see the former seat holder Genesis and Storm interact.[/QUOTE]
Same here! I would love for them to interact in a meaningful way. I remember the theories floating around that she was one of Storm's ancestors.
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[QUOTE=Jbenito;5774295]I guess Ororo is gonna have to keep spanking the Arakki. :)
From SWORD #9 preview.
[IMG]https://www.comicsxf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/0004-674x1024.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
This panel of Storm gives me life. I hope we can keep this artist.
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He’s a good fill in, but I’m hoping for Schiti back after Inferno. Maybe Schiti and R.B. Silva both rotating on S.W.O.R.D. or whatever Ewing’s book becomes in the X-line refresh.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5774320]It's time Storm says:
"I've had enough of these challenges...they waste my time and energy. As Voice of Sol, I have far more pressing things to which I must attend."
*then she lines up ALL her challengers in the CP and kills them one by one. Shocking, horrifying and inspiring the Arakkii once and for all.[/QUOTE]
I nominate burning the circle perilous next-- please...
Yes Brand I was hoping to know what was the deal she made with Shiar too but nope we are stuck in xtreme xmen arena in 2021 -- dont drag till next year please...
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[QUOTE=LadyXKerrigan;5775964]I nominate burning the circle perilous next-- please...
Yes Brand I was hoping to know what was the deal she made with Shiar too but nope we are stuck in xtreme xmen arena in 2021 -- dont drag till next year please...[/QUOTE]
Hmm you getting sick and tired of the mortal Kombat style gifts I see.... Me tooo.
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Particularly bored of seeing bored Arakki seated in bleachers -- im relishing though that this proves the problem I saw with last issues' goal to "convincing" Tarn doesnt convince the entire Arakko people - now who is this porcupine guy again? This is going to drag....we need more than knife fight stories
P.S. at least Mortal Kombat has sick but awesome selfie fatalities ---
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Guys I was right when I said tarn's amneth comment was alluding to something much bigger than we thought something far more primal.... Eldritch magic!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]114723[/ATTACH]
The jist of it is this: User can utilize Eldritch Magic, a variation of magic that is usually derived from some sort of Eldritch being. What this means ultimately depends on the universe it's used in, but more often than not it's not a good thing. Eldritch Magic practitioners are capable of doing things that can exceed many limitations of Magic usually at the cost of their physical form or their sanity. Eldritch Magic is usually accomplished via communion with eldritch masters. via super power wiki.
It is the magic they practice in the MCU.... But as a divine being it is possible storm has nigh unlimited reserves of this. Limbo storm was able manipulate reality itself with her magic create, destroy, astral project and more!
Eldritch magic is possibly even greater than chaos magic as chthon the primordial god of chaos in marvel is the source of chaos magic is an Eldritch being himself. It us the very power that created and sustains all the eldritch terrors beings and gods. That would explain why hadari yao was considered to be a bigger god than the adversary who is a god himself because she is much more primal. Plus she also posses divine magic.... This is all confusing.
Any magic afficionado here can kindly clarify what exactly eldritch magic truly is.
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[QUOTE=LadyXKerrigan;5776004]Particularly bored of seeing bored Arakki seated in bleachers -- im relishing though that the point of "convincing" Tarn doesnt convince the entire Arakko people -is one of my points last issue - now who is this porcupine guy again? This is going to drag....[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm ikr lol. At this point I am looking for comedic moments in the fight because aside isca no one on the planet is really a threat to her after taking down tarn... But even Isca seems to be chill with her.
Also wondering the same thing about acupuncture mutant.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5776009]Guys I was right when I said tarn's amneth comment was alluding to something much bigger than we thought something far more primal.... Eldritch magic!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]114723[/ATTACH]
The jist of it is this: User can utilize Eldritch Magic, a variation of magic that is usually derived from some sort of Eldritch being. What this means ultimately depends on the universe it's used in, but more often than not it's not a good thing. Eldritch Magic practitioners are capable of doing things that can exceed many limitations of Magic usually at the cost of their physical form or their sanity. Eldritch Magic is usually accomplished via communion with eldritch masters. via super power wiki.
It is the magic they practice in the MCU.... But as a divine being it is possible storm has nigh unlimited reserves of this. Limbo storm was able manipulate reality itself with her magic create, destroy, astral project and more!
Eldritch magic is possibly even greater than chaos magic as chthon the primordial god of chaos in marvel is the source of chaos magic is an Eldritch being himself. It us the very power that created and sustains all the eldritch terrors beings and gods. That would explain why hadari yao was considered to be a bigger god than the adversary who is a god himself because she is much more primal. Plus she also posses divine magic.... This is all confusing.
Any magic afficionado here can kindly clarify what exactly eldritch magic truly is.[/QUOTE]
I heard that Eldrith is the weakness of chaos magic
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5776088]I heard that Eldrith is the weakness of chaos magic[/QUOTE]
Really? I didn't know that. In her wiki it is stated that the mystical aspect of storm has lead to her apotheosis as a god. A feat even the most seasoned mystics in all of marvel have rarely achieved I guess that's string evidence for the latent godhead as it literally hastens the process of ascending into godhood and makes is permanent rather than it depending on your current power level. Iceman at the height of his power is a godlike being in full measure but that power can be stripped weakend whilst storm who has the capacity to also become godlike by her mutation alone but also has a godhead which gives her the status of god by birth right.
This is very very interesting and I deeply hope that marvel if not Ewing would delve deeper into the subject as it pertains to storm and her ancestry. And I would prefer Ewing aside from Coates. Ewing is the master of marvel cosmic and can easily establish the importance of storms godhood and it's place in relation to the marvel universe or multiverse.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5776853]Really? I didn't know that. In her wiki it is stated that the mystical aspect of storm has lead to her apotheosis as a god. A feat even the most seasoned mystics in all of marvel have rarely achieved I guess that's string evidence for the latent godhead as it literally hastens the process of ascending into godhood and makes is permanent rather than it depending on your current power level. Iceman at the height of his power is a godlike being in full measure but that power can be stripped weakend whilst storm who has the capacity to also become godlike by her mutation alone but also has a godhead which gives her the status of god by birth right.
This is very very interesting and I deeply hope that marvel if not Ewing would delve deeper into the subject as it pertains to storm and her ancestry. And I would prefer Ewing aside from Coates. Ewing is the master of marvel cosmic and can easily establish the importance of storms godhood and it's place in relation to the marvel universe or multiverse.[/QUOTE]
I think that kind of magic came out in Lovecraft, Cthulhu and the like tales...
[QUOTE][B]Eldritch Magic:[/B] Chthon and those augmented by his power are vulnerable to eldritch magic, including that of the Darkhold itself.
[I]Carnage Vol2 #8
Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z #2[/I][/QUOTE]
[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Chthon_(Earth-616)[/url]
I read on the same site that Magik's soulsword and armor carry eldritch energy, maybe because of Limbo? Storm learned magic inside Limbo must be one of the reasons, although these wikis can't be believed at all, his theory makes sense.
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Burn the Circle Perilous?! NEVER! I love that concept but I agree it shouldn’t be beaten to death either. I don’t think this should define Storm’s reign as the Regent, but I do love seeing her in action, and I think its prominence in the story may help explain/define how this role may impact Storm and the perception of what she sees as her mission.
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Someone posted in the Sword thread that Vulcan should turn evil and dethrone Storm and take over. Is it horrible that I'd love to see how this fight would play out when written by a competent writer like Ewing? Vulcan the Omega Level energy manipulator Vs Storm Omega level Goddess.
Could he manipulate her divine energy? Would it boil down to a battle of wills? How would Storm counter his power when her go-to (lightning) would as effective as throwing a burning stick at the Human Torch. Would Arakko itself survive the fight? Could he turn off her powers altogether or would she be able to counter with her own electrical control?
[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/w1EDUqWg1GcAAAAC/alias-sydney-bristow.gif[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5777356]Someone posted in the Sword thread that Vulcan should turn evil and dethrone Storm and take over. Is it horrible that I'd love to see how this fight would play out when written by a competent writer like Ewing? Vulcan the Omega Level energy manipulator Vs Storm Omega level Goddess.
Could he manipulate her divine energy? Would it boil down to a battle of wills? How would Storm counter his power when her go-to (lightning) would as effective as throwing a burning stick at the Human Torch. Would Arakko itself survive the fight? Could he turn off her powers altogether or would she be able to counter with her own electrical control?
[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/w1EDUqWg1GcAAAAC/alias-sydney-bristow.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
All this doesn't matter all she needs is a knife and it's ova for Gabriel omega energy or not. He really should be reading the news if he is considering crossing her asking his brother about storm would also be good for his heart literally!
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5777356]Someone posted in the Sword thread that Vulcan should turn evil and dethrone Storm and take over. Is it horrible that I'd love to see how this fight would play out when written by a competent writer like Ewing? Vulcan the Omega Level energy manipulator Vs Storm Omega level Goddess.
Could he manipulate her divine energy? Would it boil down to a battle of wills? How would Storm counter his power when her go-to (lightning) would as effective as throwing a burning stick at the Human Torch. Would Arakko itself survive the fight? Could he turn off her powers altogether or would she be able to counter with her own electrical control?
[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/w1EDUqWg1GcAAAAC/alias-sydney-bristow.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
It could make an interesting fight, especially considering the location. If written competently I think Storm would tactically rely on her control over air and water vs lightning and electrical forces Vulcan could easily counter. She’s been able to create defensive counters to powerful energy attacks with wind alone. Vilcan has some impressive damage soak (his fight with Blackbolt) so while I think she would beat the breaks off of him in close quarters he definitely can take the punishment. I think She’d need her blades to finish him up close vs her fists/kicks/throws.I dont recall if he can shape energy into defensive shields (probably can) so he should be able also defend against Storm’s attacks. Both could go for a one shot by manipulating the electrical impulses in the brain, but Storm has some additional internal attacks With pressure manipulation and her control over water. Hard to say here imho. I’m at 50/50 at the moment.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5777034]I think that kind of magic came out in Lovecraft, Cthulhu and the like tales...
[url]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Chthon_(Earth-616)[/url]
I read on the same site that Magik's soulsword and armor carry eldritch energy, maybe because of Limbo? Storm learned magic inside Limbo must be one of the reasons, although these wikis can't be believed at all, his theory makes sense.[/QUOTE]
It is in the comics carnage vol 2 #8 and #9 That the darkhold is a weakness of gods and monsters including the dark god chthon himself. The darkhold holds power from before creation itself from before well....before.
They also connected the darkhold to Atlantis before it fell. And we all know storm has direct lineage from Atlantis. The plot is like literally right there! All they need to do is put ink to paper. This feels very interesting because unlike any of the others storm is not merely a mystic but possibly a being of eldritch origin. It would be amazing if they could explore that as a plot or story but alas it's not in the cards for storm. Wanda is getting that development I am happy for her.
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[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5777295]Burn the Circle Perilous?! NEVER! I love that concept but I agree it shouldn’t be beaten to death either. I don’t think this should define Storm’s reign as the Regent, but I do love seeing her in action, and I think its prominence in the story may help explain/define how this role may impact Storm and the perception of what she sees as her mission.[/QUOTE]
If she is gonna be dodging arrows and stabbing people she doesn't need the circle perilous for that she just needs the streets. Honestly I am confus d why she entertains them and their silly challenges when she has literally better things to do... She should just create a monster planetary storm that would quell them and their nonsense once an for all. But I do enjoy them street fights though.
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[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5777579]It could make an interesting fight, especially considering the location. If written competently I think Storm would tactically rely on her control over air and water vs lightning and electrical forces Vulcan could easily counter. She’s been able to create defensive counters to powerful energy attacks with wind alone. Vilcan has some impressive damage soak (his fight with Blackbolt) so while I think she would beat the breaks off of him in close quarters he definitely can take the punishment. I think She’d need her blades to finish him up close vs her fists/kicks/throws.I dont recall if he can shape energy into defensive shields (probably can) so he should be able also defend against Storm’s attacks. Both could go for a one shot by manipulating the electrical impulses in the brain, but Storm has some additional internal attacks With pressure manipulation and her control over water. Hard to say here imho. I’m at 50/50 at the moment.[/QUOTE]
To be frank I am not taking a shot at storm over here but I doubt she can survive a fight against Gabriel based on their omega power set. Gabriel can manipulate all forms of energy even conceptual ones directly. He can sieze someone's power and is virtually indestructible taking a planet busting level attack from black bolt directly and still standing. Plus he has been shown to be downright potent compared to other omega mutants even single handedly taking over the entire shiar empire and ruling over it.
Unless Ewing pulls a tarn or decides to really tap into Storm's divinity in its entirely I don't see how she can beat him directly without resorting to dirty tactics. The guy can directly control all fundamental forces that govern the universe, magic, the energy of the pheonix and can even manipulate the energy of the mkraan crystal. Like nothing is beyond him but storm on the other hand needs her divinity to deal with sentient magical storms. I am a hard 80/20 in favor of Vulcan. If it were hadari yao I still don't know if storm would win but it might be close.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5777590]If she is gonna be dodging arrows and stabbing people she doesn't need the circle perilous for that she just needs the streets. Honestly I am confus d why she entertains them and their silly challenges when she has literally better things to do... She should just create a monster planetary storm that would quell them and their nonsense once an for all. But I do enjoy them street fights though.[/QUOTE]
I think she entertains them out of respect for the culture and traditions. Plus I also think, while she doesn't leap to violence, she enjoys kicking asses as much as Wolverine :). I don't foresee Ewing doing this a whole lot, but I think it should be enough to where it's clearly a consistent thing that she's dealing with, and if per persona, her decisions, and demeanor is part of her developmental change (since they said this journey for Storm would be covered over the next few years) I think it's important that we see it. I also think she that the upcoming fight with the Lethal Legion may also help solidify their respect.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5777600]To be frank I am not taking a shot at storm over here but I doubt she can survive a fight against Gabriel based on their omega power set. Gabriel can manipulate all forms of energy even conceptual ones directly. He can sieze someone's power and is virtually indestructible taking a planet busting level attack from black bolt directly and still standing. Plus he has been shown to be downright potent compared to other omega mutants even single handedly taking over the entire shiar empire and ruling over it.
Unless Ewing pulls a tarn or decides to really tap into Storm's divinity in its entirely I don't see how she can beat him directly without resorting to dirty tactics. The guy can directly control all fundamental forces that govern the universe, magic, the energy of the pheonix and can even manipulate the energy of the mkraan crystal. Like nothing is beyond him but storm on the other hand needs her divinity to deal with sentient magical storms. I am a hard 80/20 in favor of Vulcan. If it were hadari yao I still don't know if storm would win but it might be close.[/QUOTE]
Fair points but I disagree. We've seen that Polaris crushing his armor around his body greatly hurt and damaged him (Storm could mirror this with pressure manipulation), strikes from Havok drew blood, and I've never seen him manipulate the physical elements. He is extremely powerful and durable so I can see where the odds can favor him. However, I am not see why her control over air, water and pressure wouldn't serve her here.
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Fair points but I disagree. We've seen that Polaris crushing his armor around his body greatly hurt and damaged him (Storm could mirror this with pressure manipulation), strikes from Havok drew blood, and I've never seen him manipulate the physical elements. He is extremely powerful and durable so I can see where the odds can favor him. However, I am not see why her control over air, water and pressure wouldn't serve her here.[/QUOTE]
Yh that's why I said 80/20 that twenty is representing a miracle by which she pulls a Polaris and actually affects him but it won't stop him, a freaking cosmic bomb was needed to stop him unless storm is ready to unleash the total power of a supernova nothing short of that should take him down, plant busting moves couldn't even take him down and that one part with lorna getting the better of him I call PIS. And we know storm ain't gonna do that not now we'll most likely not ever!
Now yes storms direct control over the elements should be able to give her an advantage but Gabriel can just as simply hijack her powers turn them of or use them as his own. Storm could initiate an attack with a though but so can he and in the end he is simply way too durable and can heal so he would easily outlast her. He withstood a full on attack from black bolt which should have atomized him and could have atomized entire cities.
Also Gabriel can absorb mutagenic energy which is the energy from the xgene that gives mutants their powers so omega level weather manipulation especially as it has been depicted soo far doesn't seem to trump omega level energy manipulation.
Now with storm's divinity one can say the tables would turn...but Gabriel's power over energy extends to very concepts themselves and I am very certain divine energy is in his repertoire. Unless hadari yao uses energy that is soooo beyond even the mkraan crystal, even she might not stand a chance against Gabriel.
This is the reason why I am very adamant when it comes to storm developing her powers. I am sure there is much she can do but as at now I doubt she can.... I mean in over 40 years it was only a few weeks ago that she could fly into space unaided, meanwhile Gabriel has done so countless times and jean telepathically bitch slapped a god last week again! Omegas have been developing it looks like storm is one of the few that is still slightly above when she started.
Storm needs her powers developed, storm needs to be a damm omega weather manipulator already! Enough with the street fights she is in space let her stretch her omega and divine legs. But I digress.
