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[QUOTE=jwatson;5334032]It doesn't even make sense lol. Storm hurt adversary in the past before this yaoi thing and she hurt legion and she told Nate/legion she was a goddess before he was born. But somehow two pages of her floating with lightning around her and using lightning is going to do something. She looked way more powerful and majestic in excalibur taking out all the demons then that tore up red dress descending in tchalla arms like some disney princess reject.
They can't have it both ways. It's sad seeing people trying to attribute other people work to what Coates did when in fact he was trying to change storm not elevate her. People don't have a leg to stand on with that prayer thing because she didn't need it. Lol.
Maybe marvel should let him go do one of those non canon storm prose novels so he can get his life and maybe finish his story.[/QUOTE]
when did storm hurt adversary in the past? which issue was that? because the last time I recall them fighting prior to coates her powers were ineffective against him.
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[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5334653]honestly i think nobody should waste time with these articles lol.[/QUOTE]
Yupp. They're the National Enquirer of web news sites.
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[url]https://screenrant.com/storm-xmen-kill-one-punch-crucible-callisto/[/url]
[i]There’s no denying that Storm is one of the most powerful mutants on Krakoa. This defibrillating punch just goes to prove that she has mastered her powers to the point of being dangerous at any distance and in any situation. Unfortunately, with Callisto’s happy ending, and the recent advancements they’ve has made in terms of security and outreach, Storm is due for change. What this means exactly is unknown, but to lose her would deal a mighty blow indeed to the X-Men and Krakoa.[/i]
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5336019][url]https://screenrant.com/storm-xmen-kill-one-punch-crucible-callisto/[/url]
[i]There’s no denying that Storm is one of the most powerful mutants on Krakoa. This defibrillating punch just goes to prove that she has mastered her powers to the point of being dangerous at any distance and in any situation. Unfortunately, with Callisto’s happy ending, and the recent advancements they’ve has made in terms of security and outreach, Storm is due for change. What this means exactly is unknown, but to lose her would deal a mighty blow indeed to the X-Men and Krakoa.[/i][/QUOTE]
Wait a minute...hold up. Where do they think shes going? I thought she was just going to space with Jean and Cyclops.
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[QUOTE=twisted sun;5336266]Wait a minute...hold up. Where do they think shes going? I thought she was just going to space with Jean and Cyclops.[/QUOTE]
she is chile. but I'm hoping she is about to take an exit from the xmen low key.
oan: don't know how i feel about a writer who don't like mutants writing storm. that should be an instant disqualifier.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5336326]she is chile. but I'm hoping she is about to take an exit from the xmen low key.
oan: don't know how i feel about a writer who don't like mutants writing storm. that should be an instant disqualifier.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm interested in seeing what space holds for her and curious which book or roster she'll become a part of.
Oan: I saw. I need to DM you
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[QUOTE=twisted sun;5336378]Well I'm interested in seeing what space holds for her and curious which book or roster she'll become a part of.
Oan: I saw. I need to DM you[/QUOTE]
I hope so too!! I pray to the goddess we don't see this mess again:
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ok boo! lolol
just in case he deletes this tweet. the children are rightfully going in. under no circumstances should a writer who hold such thoughts write anything xmen related, let alone storm.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5336403]just in case he deletes this tweet. the children are rightfully going in. under no circumstances should a writer who hold such thoughts write anything xmen related, let alone storm.
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The gag is Wanda isnt a mutant, yet she hurt more people in one single act than any mutant in 616. He needs to STFU
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[QUOTE=Havok83;5336416]The gag is Wanda isnt a mutant, yet she hurt more people in one single act than any mutant in 616. He needs to STFU[/QUOTE]
exactly! its very true. I dont wanna bash wanda as she has been trying to make things right but it concerning that a character who think there shouldn't be mutants is about to drop a title where storm is featured in the story.
not a good look at all.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;5336416]The gag is Wanda isnt a mutant, yet she hurt more people in one single act than any mutant in 616. He needs to STFU[/QUOTE]
in which issue he gonna write Storm?
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Individuals from real-world marginalized groups are easily capable of being dangerous and causing harm to others. That doesn't justify living in constant fear of them or committing genocide against them. How does he not realize how dumb his logic sounds?
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[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5336455]in which issue he gonna write Storm?[/QUOTE]
black in king issue 1 the black panther issue to drop on black history month.
[QUOTE=Dipter;5336462]Individuals from real-world marginalized groups are easily capable of being dangerous and causing harm to others. That doesn't justify living in constant fear of them or committing genocide against them. How does he not realize how dumb his logic sounds?[/QUOTE]
HELLO!!!! and preach!!! everything about that post is so tone deaf. it was the same type of language used against black people and specifically black men that justified the crime bill in 90s. That in itself was egregious but then you see how much the writer doesn't like mutants, which I knew prior to this, but this reminder just troubles me seeing he is writing storm in this book next month. hopefully editorial protects her from any biases he may have going in with this story.
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He's not "writing mutants" (just that one issue of Black Panther KiB) so...y'alls can treat those Savage X Fenty with more respect and unknot. unbunch and untwist them.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5336479]black in king issue 1 the black panther issue to drop on black history month.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.....
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[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5336487]Thanks.....[/QUOTE]
you're welcome boo! fingers crossed this writer who thinks there should be no more mutants doesn't do our girl dirty.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5336403]just in case he deletes this tweet. the children are rightfully going in. under no circumstances should a writer who hold such thoughts write anything xmen related, let alone storm.
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[COLOR="#000080"]My, my, my![/COLOR]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5336482]HELLO!!!! and preach!!! everything about that post is so tone deaf. it was the same type of language used against black people and specifically black men that justified the crime bill in 90s. That in itself was egregious but then you see how much the writer doesn't like mutants, which I knew prior to this, but this reminder just troubles me seeing he is writing storm in this book next month. hopefully editorial protects her from any biases he may have going in with this story.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Maybe they should have more Black males(and other poc male and females) on Krakoa.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5336498][COLOR="#000080"]Maybe they should have more Black males(and other poc male and females) on Krakoa.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
you will not get any arguments with me there. the definitely need more black men in meaningful roles.
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So we promoting black love for Coates work while tearing down another writer for having a varying opinion before even reading his actual paid work. Well ok. I just. wow. A writer may be a part of their work but they aren't their work, just because someone personally as a black person takes legitmate offense to a bunch of white faced mutants running around being oppressed when there are real black people struggling and you have mediums like fox bascially hiding behind that in their xmen movies to promote white acceptance but having like no significant mutants of color and truly exploring what it means to be discriminated against doesn't mean that person can't or won't write a good story with a mutant in it. Sadly though, i'm not surprised by what i see happening here.
That there, must be foreign black love.
and i just needed to edit again because i realize people do and don't like stuff but this just seems really low to me to go off someone personal opinion and attack their work before you even see it. I mean yes words have consequences but equating a thought to a fictional group by a person who has more than likely lived whats on the pages. I mean wow. At least when we talk about coates it's based on his work.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5336558]So we promoting black love for Coates work while tearing down another writer for having a varying opinion before even reading his actual paid work. Well ok. I just. wow. A writer may be a part of their work but they aren't their work, just because someone personally as a black person takes legitmate offense to a bunch of white faced mutants running around being oppressed when there are real black people struggling and you have mediums like fox bascially hiding behind that in their xmen movies to promote white acceptance but having like no significant mutants of color and truly exploring what it means to be discriminated against doesn't mean that person can't or won't write a good story with a mutant in it. Sadly though, i'm not surprised by what i see happening here.
That there, must be foreign black love.
and i just needed to edit again because i realize people do and don't like stuff but this just seems really low to me to go off someone personal opinion and attack their work before you even see it. I mean yes words have consequences but equating a thought to a fictional group by a person who has more than likely lived whats on the pages. I mean wow. At least when we talk about coates it's based on his work.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Kinda reminds me of Priest and Black Panther. He didn't want to write Black Panther initially because he didn't want to be the typecast as the "Black character" writer.
Then he went on to write the seminal run of BP because he was a professional. [/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5336558]So we promoting black love for Coates work while tearing down another writer for having a varying opinion before even reading his actual paid work. Well ok. I just. wow. A writer may be a part of their work but they aren't their work, just because someone personally as a black person takes legitmate offense to a bunch of white faced mutants running around being oppressed when there are real black people struggling and you have mediums like fox bascially hiding behind that in their xmen movies to promote white acceptance but having like no significant mutants of color and truly exploring what it means to be discriminated against doesn't mean that person can't or won't write a good story with a mutant in it. Sadly though, i'm not surprised by what i see happening here.
That there, must be foreign black love.
and i just needed to edit again because i realize people do and don't like stuff but this just seems really low to me to go off someone personal opinion and attack their work before you even see it. I mean yes words have consequences but equating a thought to a fictional group by a person who has more than likely lived whats on the pages. I mean wow. At least when we talk about coates it's based on his work.[/QUOTE]
This has nothing to do with black love. You've been here enough to know that people on this board get sensitive when it comes to the X-men and what the Scarlet Witch did. "Wanda was right" in reference to her genocide is a bold statement. Had Butterflykyss had made a post for this tweet in the general forum and not Storm's thread, the responses would be the same
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[QUOTE=Havok83;5336572]This has nothing to do with black love. You've been here enough to know that people on this board get sensitive when it comes to the X-men and what the Scarlet Witch did. "Wanda was right" in reference to her genocide is a bold statement. Had Butterflykyss had made a post for this tweet in the general forum and not Storm's thread, the responses would be the same[/QUOTE]
It has a lot to do with it for me when you are promoting black love, and talking up one black writer just because you have a preference for his writing but are talking down or making insinuations about another before his work is even released. And i can't speak for everyone else only myself and what it makes me think of because objectively i can see in some sense those who may say Wanda was right. Those who may have lost a loved one to a mutant manifestation, or those who may be oppressed for real and seeing those around them taking advantage of systems they are trying to get from under. I believe in a lot of grey area but you know when wrong is wrong.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5336579]It has a lot to do with it for me when you are promoting black love, and talking up one black writer just because you have a preference for his writing but are talking down or making insinuations about another before his work is even released. And i can't speak for everyone else only myself and what it makes me think of because[B] objectively i can see in some sense those who may say Wanda was right.[/B] Those who may have lost a loved one to a mutant manifestation, or those who may be oppressed for real and seeing those around them taking advantage of systems they are trying to get from under. I believe in a lot of grey area but you know when wrong is wrong.[/QUOTE]
I strongly disagree. There is no rationale way to view her as right IMO. Yes people have died and or been hurt by mutants (Magneto and any number of villians). That does not make it okay to commit genocide of nearly 90% of that group, most of whom were innocent. And she didnt do it as some altruistic act to protect and stick up for the average human thats been hurt. She was crazy and wanted to hurt Magneto. There was nothing right about what she did or her motivations behind it
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5336558]So we promoting black love for Coates work while tearing down another writer for having a varying opinion before even reading his actual paid work. Well ok. I just. wow. A writer may be a part of their work but they aren't their work, just because someone personally as a black person takes legitmate offense to a bunch of white faced mutants running around being oppressed when there are real black people struggling and you have mediums like fox bascially hiding behind that in their xmen movies to promote white acceptance but having like no significant mutants of color and truly exploring what it means to be discriminated against doesn't mean that person can't or won't write a good story with a mutant in it. Sadly though, i'm not surprised by what i see happening here.
That there, must be foreign black love.
and i just needed to edit again because i realize people do and don't like stuff but this just seems really low to me to go off someone personal opinion and attack their work before you even see it. I mean yes words have consequences but equating a thought to a fictional group by a person who has more than likely lived whats on the pages. I mean wow. At least when we talk about coates it's based on his work.[/QUOTE]
1.) What did the tweet i posted have to do with black love?
2.) Where was the writer personally attacked? He made an egregious post and his remarks were criticized, not the person who made them.
3.) The writer said that Wanda was right and there should be no more mutants all while writing Storm in a book to drop next month. Those are the facts.
4.) Pointing to the facts as expressed in point 3 and then being a concerned storm fan is not tearing a write down but responding reasonably to the words that came from the writer's fingers.
5.) Therefore based upon the fact he doesn't like mutants and is writing Storm i don't need to read the issue to express any concern in the regard.
I seriously don't know if posts I make are purposely distorted to elicit a response or if what is posted is done with sincerity. Either way the point of the post was entirely missed as shown by starting the dialog with "black love."
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[QUOTE=Havok83;5336590]I strongly disagree. There is no rationale way to view her as right IMO. Yes people have died and or been hurt by mutants (Magneto and any number of villians). That does not make it okay to commit genocide of nearly 90% of that group, most of whom were innocent. And she didnt do it as some altruistic act to protect and stick up for the average human thats been hurt. She was crazy and wanted to hurt Magneto. There was nothing right about what she did or her motivations behind it[/QUOTE]
absolutely correct. now take a writer who holds these opinions that Wanda was right and there should be no more mutants because they are "dangerous" and the same writer is penning storm in an upcoming issue. it seems very logical that a storm fan would be concerned with this.
and I STILL dont know what the heck any of this has to do with black love lol. please make it make sense!
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Yes there is a way. Ultimately these are fictional characters so putting any level of real level emotion onto the actis of violence they commit is actually honestly a little different and weird to me. i mean talking about it for conversations purpose is one thing but attributing it to a perosn who was actually oppressed in real life who has actually lived a life of fear and discrimination to what some writer put down on paper and coming for his personal thouhts, for me, seems low. I could be completely wrong, i admit it, but it is what it is. I'm done now.
And one last thing and i'm out for a while. if you don't understand what my post has to do with black love please stop using it because you don't know what your talking about. It sounds cute to you i guess but black love is a community not a couple.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5336602]Yes there is a way. Ultimately these are fictional characters so putting any level of real level emotion onto the actis of violence they commit is actually honestly a little different and weird to me. i mean talking about it for conversations purpose is one thing but attributing it to a perosn who was actually oppressed in real life who has actually lived a life of fear and discrimination to what some writer put down on paper and coming for his personal thouhts, for me, seems low. I could be completely wrong, i admit it, but it is what it is. I'm done now.
And one last thing and i'm out for a while. [b]if you don't understand what my post has to do with black love please stop using it because you don't know what your talking about. It sounds cute to you i guess but black love is a community not a couple.[/b][/QUOTE]
You equating that tweet and any disagreement to it with black love, and I say this respectfully, doesn't make sense. You keep taking digs any chance you get towards me specifically for whatever reason even when it isn't relevant to the discussion. You did it most recently in the spoilers thread for Marauders bringing up black love when it was not relevant to anything and I ignored it.
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?145979-Marauders-17-Preview/page3[/url]
Coates nor Black love was even mentioned but you derailed that discussion for what exactly? There is some type of unnecessary energy beloved you need to let go. It's 2021. At any rate I will discuss what I want when I want as it pertains to appreciating Storm. if you dont like it you can always mute, block, or skip over my responses as I do with many posters in here that I care not to engage with.
#blacklovewins
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[QUOTE=Havok83;5336590]I strongly disagree. There is no rationale way to view her as right IMO. Yes people have died and or been hurt by mutants (Magneto and any number of villians). That does not make it okay to commit genocide of nearly 90% of that group, most of whom were innocent. And she didnt do it as some altruistic act to protect and stick up for the average human thats been hurt. She was crazy and wanted to hurt Magneto. There was nothing right about what she did or her motivations behind it[/QUOTE]
agreed, genocide is never a good answer
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It was a personal opinion. Not a very astute one, nor even an original one (that has been bandied back and forth on this board several times over).
We get it, he's not revered and honoured Coates...no need to be messy and petty, trying to make him out to be the "worst human ever!!!"
Storm would be ashamed of the way some of you behave.
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Well this thread is a barrel of fun...
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5336679]It was a personal opinion. Not a very astute one, nor even an original one (that has been bandied back and forth on this board several times over).
We get it, he's not revered and honoured Coates...no need to be messy and petty, trying to make him out to be the "worst human ever!!!"
Storm would be ashamed of the way some of you behave.[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone was trying to make him out to be the worst human ever ( but then again that form of hyperbole is something that you are well acquainted to using in order to minimize a very valid point) they merely critiqued a statement that a writer made where he basically said that a marginalized group deserved the genocide that they got. Add that to the fact that that very same writer is going to be writing an issue where Storm appears in and well there's nothing out of the ordinary about the reactions in this thread.
This is low-key starting to seem like gaslighting.
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[QUOTE=loke13;5337075]I don't think anyone was trying to make him out to be the worst human ever ( but then again that form of hyperbole is something that you are well acquainted to using in order to minimize a very valid point) they merely critiqued a statement that a writer made where he basically said that a marginalized group deserved the genocide that they got. Add that to the fact that that very same writer is going to be writing an issue where Storm appears in and well there's nothing out of the ordinary about the reactions in this thread.
This is low-key starting to seem like gaslighting.[/QUOTE]
Oh it def seems like gaslighting. It seems like people are trying to tear a person who is a part of a real life marginal group for an opinion on a fictional one but it is what is it is. I'm glad you said gaslighting cause i def think that is what this is in i feel its in a way to tear down a black writer who is not a fan of Storm and BP because if you read the actual thread before they brought all this over they were talking about how he isn't a fan of Storm and BP and butterflykiss was all over it and "Black love" when he thought it was tchalla racing to save Storm. So don't pee in my glass and try to say it's lemonade. So at least keep up if your gonna jump in on somebody behalf.
A man career could take a huge hit from accusations such as these.
And just to add if this isn't more personal wheres the shock and awe about Booth drawing Storm. I mean she is female and part of a minority group.
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At least they knew hyperbole when they read it...if not it's actual usage. You can't win them all.
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[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5336455]in which issue he gonna write Storm?[/QUOTE]
He may not actually write her...as she shows up in the preview pre-"Knullification".
If T'Challa confronts her in story (only a base assumption)...she and others will be knullified versions of themselves so technically not their true selves.
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Storm by Mel Milton
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[QUOTE=Agent Z;5337341][IMG]https://i.redd.it/72pyzgmxidc61.jpg[/IMG]
Storm by Mel Milton[/QUOTE]
damn now that is nice!
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[QUOTE=loke13;5337075]I don't think anyone was trying to make him out to be the worst human ever ( but then again that form of hyperbole is something that you are well acquainted to using in order to minimize a very valid point) they merely critiqued a statement that a writer made where he basically said that a marginalized group deserved the genocide that they got. [B]Add that to the fact that that very same writer is going to be writing an issue where Storm appears in and well there's nothing out of the ordinary about the reactions in this thread.
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This is low-key starting to seem like gaslighting.[/QUOTE]
How about let the book come out and then judge?
Especially when OTHER writers are not being hunted down like this.
And lets not forget NAMOR powered by SOMETHING tried to wipe out Wakanda and to this day MANY want him to go back and FINISH the job.
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5337401]How about let the book come out and then judge?
Especially when OTHER writers are not being hunted down like this.
And lets not forget NAMOR powered by SOMETHING tried to wipe out Wakanda and to this day MANY want him to go back and FINISH the job.[/QUOTE]
no one said the issue was going to be bad. it was mentioned only that there was concern in the regards to his writing of storm seeing his recent comments on twitter stating mutants deserved what occurred when Wanda depowered them. that does not even include the same writer's statements about storm on cbr forum that are just as inflammatory. nevertheless, all this other "outrage" regarding attacking the writer personally and black love is nonsense.
and to be fair other writers ARE "hunted" down like this especially in other forums where certain bp writers are not appreciated for their depiction of wakanda. im most certainly you are aware of this fact.
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[QUOTE=Agent Z;5337341][IMG]https://i.redd.it/72pyzgmxidc61.jpg[/IMG]
Storm by Mel Milton[/QUOTE]
Beautiful!!
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I don't know...I love the collar with the gold accent, but with the bustier with the small X insignia. I hate the tops of her boots (I'm assuming they're her boots) are so high up (they should always be just above knee...just a personal preference)
With all that said...for me the bustier is an "Emma" look and especially with that collar piece...
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[QUOTE=twisted sun;5337480]Beautiful!![/QUOTE]
agreed that is gorgeous!! very fierce!
