[QUOTE=Stormy;5695634]It's the X-men's issue #181
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thank you love. I need to archive that in my library lol.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5695634]It's the X-men's issue #181
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thank you love. I need to archive that in my library lol.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5695643]thank you love. I need to archive that in my library lol.[/QUOTE]
Good to know that I'm not the only one who archives all of Storm's feats, I started reading the old comics just because of that xD
[QUOTE=Stormy;5695692]Good to know that I'm not the only one who archives all of Storm's feats, I started reading the old comics just because of that xD[/QUOTE]
lolololol that was one of the reasons I did too lol.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5695705]lolololol that was one of the reasons I did too lol.[/QUOTE]
One day, when I'm bored, I'll make a Thread just for Ororo quoting the Goddess / Oshtur / Gaea lololol
reading the silver surfer issue whe was able to hurt him fully powered. whats most impressive was this was a silver splurged story, not an xbook, and they wrote then knew what was up with Ororo:
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5695634]It's the X-men's issue #181
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What are yous talking about? I'm lost.
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5695751]What are yous talking about? I'm lost.[/QUOTE]
I asked for the issue number from which a scan was posted. this is the issue.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5695750]reading the silver surfer issue whe was able to hurt him fully powered. whats most impressive was this was a silver splurged story, not an xbook, and they wrote then knew what was up with Ororo:
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What comic and what issue is this?
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5695763]What comic and what issue is this?[/QUOTE]
silver surfer issue 85. storm is featured in this issue
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5695499]I see the Trial of Magneto thread is still a steaming pile. Just think, Storm caused all this ruckus with ONE line out of a whole issue! They think they mad now they're going to be near suicidal with salt when Ewing really gets her going.
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[I]Let it flow, let it flow. [/I]
As I said before Butterfly, people are so accustomed with the wallflower Storm that anything that differs is considered OOC or an outlier. They not ready for the resurgence of the ACTUAL Storm.[/QUOTE]
Its in the historical writing -- Storm is a character that is also a depowered being to show her vulnerability -- there is no lie in that -- and as Ive mentioned in the thread we fan experienced that low -- and was devastated but the rest of those who stayed in there couldn't move past that she does come back if not more powerful, but sporting a different attitude -- and not to mention that she was at a time really not used in x - books and perhaps these people entered the x-book realm during those times -- and adapted a powerless storm in their environment -- that is always a problem with Shared space -- and most of them cant back it up coz as lazy as anyone can read some of her best feat arent even in X books -- yup guest starring her in this one too and there is an issue about what she said coz it was about power -- hahah i should point out that previously comic books explains itself with those foot otes *see issues #__ for said power -up* but they are gone now we also have this in other group convo in which we realize they dont follow storm the way we do, so yes they could really claim storm powers were at the level coming from fox only coz they deviated from all X-men to just rogue or magneto or logan -- to be honest I enjoy slapping people correct with information -- being accurate is important but it depends on the recipient -- some of them decided that Storm is a preferred kind and humbled character -- and decided they would never break that image -- no matter what -- i noticed that when I asked them where they are coming from, they cant even point it out -- okay so what do we do? Educate? State a fact? But pushing information on an unwilling participant is useless like I mentioned there of their side is subjective only objective data can counter that -- goodness I even saw a mental health in there like you seriously believe that wouls help your case son? Nope -- they will show their intent anyways along the way -- just steadfast I think as long as the information coming from you is canon, there was no intent of bias (i get it guys -- i can be biased too), there shouldn't be a problem supposedly unless the opponent go personal -- that felt like a chess game -- your knight to my pawn with a bishop defence (which is always a tandem) those tandem are information on what happened in a singular panel e.g was she actually solo in that council room -- nope so thats already a point first before you go back to the other referrence -- now that was a trip -- i enjoyed it -- hahaha -- i love healthy debates -- and it doesnt matter if you are right or wrong in it -- what matters is that you can back up your claim -- with authentic information -- coz one other thing I noticed, people do pick up information from opinions and they tend to make it their facts -- always ask where they got it from -- coz you got it from issue # __ lazy readers -- and please if you meet someone having mental issue and explicitly saying it -- advice to seek help -- its a red tag telling -- geez I wasnt expecting that to appear -- its not normal -- if you are stressed give yourself a break -- dont displace it in a forum coz that could affect others -- anyways more salt coz they'd be surprise for longer coz this is just the beginning...more salt!
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5695770]silver surfer issue 85. storm is featured in this issue[/QUOTE]
Thanks!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5695778]Thanks!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
you're welcome anytime!
[QUOTE=LadyXKerrigan;5695777]Its in the historical writing -- Storm is a character that is also a depowered being to show her vulnerability -- there is no lie in that -- and as Ive mentioned in the thread we fan experienced that low -- and was devastated but the rest of those who stayed in there couldn't move past that she does come back if not more powerful, but sporting a different attitude -- and not to mention that she was at a time really not used in x - books and perhaps these people entered the x-book realm during those times -- and adapted a powerless storm in their environment -- that is always a problem with Shared space -- and most of them cant back it up coz as lazy as anyone can read some of her best feat arent even in X books -- yup guest starring her in this one too and there is an issue about what she said coz it was about power -- hahah i should point out that previously comic books explains itself with those foot otes *see issues #__ for said power -up* but they are gone now we also have this in other group convo in which we realize they dont follow storm the way we do, so yes they could really claim storm powers were at the level coming from fox only coz they deviated from all X-men to just rogue or magneto or logan -- to be honest I enjoy slapping people correct with information -- being accurate is important but it depends on the recipient -- some of them decided that Storm is a preferred kind and humbled character -- and decided they would never break that image -- no matter what -- i noticed that when I asked them where they are coming from, they cant even point it out -- okay so what do we do? Educate? State a fact? But pushing information on an unwilling participant is useless like I mentioned there of their side is subjective only objective data can counter that -- goodness I even saw a mental health in there like you seriously believe that wouls help your case son? Nope -- they will show their intent anyways along the way -- just steadfast I think as long as the information coming from you is canon, there was no intent of bias (i get it guys -- i can be biased too), there shouldn't be a problem supposedly unless the opponent go personal -- that felt like a chess game -- your knight to my pawn with a bishop defence (which is always a tandem) those tandem are information on what happened in a singular panel e.g was she actually solo in that council room -- nope so thats already a point first before you go back to the other referrence -- now that was a trip -- i enjoyed it -- hahaha -- i love healthy debates -- and it doesnt matter if you are right or wrong in it -- what matters is that you can back up your claim -- with authentic information -- coz one other thing I noticed, people do pick up information from opinions and they tend to make it their facts -- always ask where they got it from -- coz you got it from issue # __ lazy readers -- and please if you meet someone having mental issue and explicitly saying it -- advice to seek help -- its a red tag telling -- geez I wasnt expecting that to appear -- its not normal -- if you are stressed give yourself a break -- dont displace it in a forum coz that could affect others -- anyways more salt coz they'd be surprise for longer coz this is just the beginning...more salt![/QUOTE]
Erhm ohk thanks? Sorry? Yes?
[QUOTE=Daedra;5694417]If storm can open a hole in the magnetosphere she can open a hole in any force field Magneto may use to keep lightning at bay, as it happened with Lorna at the airport any magnetic circuit can be overcharged, Ororo needs to keep pouring more energy that he is able to menage.[/QUOTE]
I do have a curious rub at the back of my mind. If I am not mistaken it was mentioned by someone in the past that Magneto has created a black hole? So my question is, how would Storm battle a black hole if Magneto creates one? Just out of curiosity, of course.
As far for the debate between who will win, Magneto or Storm, I think that it will be a close battle and it will be based on will and guts. I love Storm but Magneto is powerful too, even though I do dislike him as a whole.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5695792]Erhm ohk thanks? Sorry? Yes?[/QUOTE]
Erhm ok? -- so I wasnt really getting this response from you -- so Ill try my best to interpret and reply while I am doing adult stuff here...
Thanks? -- not sure if this is because I answered the question thread about why others could see storm in a different light? Or thank you for sharing? - umm I would kindly respond to that in french De rien(its nothing/you're welcome)...i see the question I post my answer to the question -- it wont solve global warming but glad you appreciate the effort? - i guess?
Sorry? -- first for what? To finally see how toxic a thread becomes when storm is involved? -- now that is an experience -- no worries I am fully capable to be the judge of that -- its my decision to jump into the conversation and knew very well of my accountabilities from that action -- i have been into worst debates irl -- so nothing personal --
Yes? - is that in agreement or confusion as to why the this post? -- i see the question and just came out of the said other thread -- I saw you there I was there I shared the experience and my thought and thats it -- did you want something add to how I would have said it or would you want to reply directly to the question or post? Coz there was no question to answer a yes or no here...so yup please expound on this and ill go back to it when I have the time to make out a comprehensive interpretation
But thanks for your response -- sorry cant really make out your point first time -- and yes got to focus back to life now -- hate adulting but I have too...
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5695856]I do have a curious rub at the back of my mind. If I am not mistaken it was mentioned by someone in the past that Magneto has created a black hole? So my question is, how would Storm battle a black hole if Magneto creates one? Just out of curiosity, of course.
As far for the debate between who will win, Magneto or Storm, I think that it will be a close battle and it will be based on will and guts. I love Storm but Magneto is powerful too, even though I do dislike him as a whole.[/QUOTE]
I'm no rocket scientist but don't blackhole "fizzle out" over time due to Hawking radiation? Pretty sure she could just speed up the process
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5695856]I do have a curious rub at the back of my mind. If I am not mistaken it was mentioned by someone in the past that Magneto has created a black hole? So my question is, how would Storm battle a black hole if Magneto creates one? Just out of curiosity, of course.
As far for the debate between who will win, Magneto or Storm, I think that it will be a close battle and it will be based on will and guts. I love Storm but Magneto is powerful too, even though I do dislike him as a whole.[/QUOTE]
Actually he hasn't he has made wormholes but never black holes infact the only part of gravity he controls is using magnetic fields to negate Earth's gravity on him. Plus radiation kills black holes I forgot the name but it's a proven thing now. So storm could on theory kill said black hole he can't even create.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5695932]Actually he hasn't he has made wormholes but never black holes infact the only part of gravity he controls is using magnetic fields to negate Earth's gravity on him. Plus radiation kills black holes I forgot the name but it's a proven thing now. So storm could on theory kill said black hole he can't even create.[/QUOTE]
My bad, wormhole then. Not blackhole. Just I guess I remembered it wrong or something. So, how she will handle his wormholes?
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5695949]My bad, wormhole then. Not blackhole. Just I guess I remembered it wrong or something. So, how she will handle his wormholes?[/QUOTE]
Since she also has access to the magnetic energies he controls she too should also in theory create wormholes but magneto's wormholes were created by finding a very flexible point in the Earth's magnetic field and using it as a trajectory point kinda like a sling shot.
It would be interesting if the XOffice team further developed their pressure and gravity skills.
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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5696016]It would be interesting if the XOffice team further developed their pressure and gravity skills.
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omg that is a great find. where is that last image from I dont recall ever reading it!
the lack of gravity doesn't affect her! awesome!
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5696088]omg that is a great find. where is that last image from I dont recall ever reading it!
the lack of gravity doesn't affect her! awesome![/QUOTE]
Uncanny X-Men 156
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5696097]Uncanny X-Men 156[/QUOTE]
thank you. adding it to the archive lol.
now how do you think or why do you think the lack of gravity doesn't affect her?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5696098]thank you. adding it to the archive lol.
now how do you think or why do you think the lack of gravity doesn't affect her?[/QUOTE]
You're welcome! I explained in the text above, it she direct access to the force of gravity since it manipulates and controls atmospheric pressure, which happens to be directly related to the force that gravity exerts on air molecules.
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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5696118]You're welcome! I explained in the text above, it she direct access to the force of gravity since it manipulates and controls atmospheric pressure, which happens to be directly related to the force that gravity exerts on air molecules.
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I see thank you for your explanation.
would love to see her playing around with that force as it is a natural force of the universe.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5696133]I see thank you for your explanation.
would love to see her playing around with that force as it is a natural force of the universe.[/QUOTE]
I wanted more stunts, something more explicit and raw. In addition to the electromagnetic force, which is the source of its powers, gravity would be a wonderful thing to see.
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5696154]Those are actually pretty good finds but some logic is lacking in them. I will start with a few things which lack for me:
1) Will Storm really think of Air pressure first? Like would it be the very first thing to do? [COLOR="#000000"]And are you certain that air pressure can breach through the magnetic field, because if this is so then why the pressure on Earth doesn't breach through the upper atmosphere but is actually condensed on the planet? [/COLOR]
2) Have she ever directly tried to manipulate Magneto's magnetic fields? It seems rather unrealistic that Magneto will just let her manipulate his magnetic defences or fields for that matter...
3) You did give me a thought though, Air pressure might be strong enough to penetrate the magnetic field, however, the pressure which must be released is Unearthly. Wind Pressure works a bit more different than simply pushing gravity or controlling gravity itself. Gravity itself is an element that is connected to the magnetic fields, not the air pressure. Just clarifying.
I don't think that she can manipulate the gravity fields this way. Or the gravity element itself. She can, yes, protect herself against it... maybe but it is not like gravity faces a gravity it is more like an immense pressure faces an immense well gravity... there is no other explanation while for air pressure you can break it into small pieces. Wind and pressure. And the wind is not something that manipulates or breaks gravity it just bends it or something like that. Strong winds can lift a human being, but not because they interfere directly with the gravity but because their winds are simply too strong and since the winds are too strong they create the pressure which lifts. This IS NOT DIRECT GRAVITY MANIPULATION. I want to make this VERY CLEAR.[/QUOTE]
I did not understand. How do you use air pressure to break magnetic fields? I did not say that '-'
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5696160]I did not understand. How do you use air pressure to break magnetic fields? I did not say that '-'[/QUOTE]
I assumed that you said that because when I asked how she will breach through Magneto's magnetic defences your next post was about Air pressure. I assumed that this is how you think she will be able to do it.
In short, what I think will happen in this situation if Magneto and Storm ever face... it will be either a draw or it will kill both of them. Their powers are powerful, and Magneto is sharp. Storm is intelligent as well, but Magneto is quite the cunning man... I don't say that he will completely beat her or that she will completely beat him, but they will take severe damage and maybe even destroy each other. Storm, of course, has a bit higher chance of survival based on assumptions. In other words, she has beaten Magneto in the past, but we DO NOT INCLUDE all the growth Magneto did from their last encounter.
Storm is powerful, and she is my top favourite, but this battle will be based on the will and who has more stamina to withstand all those devastating attacks that each one of them will release. And I am like 95% certain that Air Pressure or Electromagnetic manipulation will not cross Storm's mind at first at all. However, if Storm concentrates strong enough lightning that is charged with electrolysis, she can depart his magnetic defences on an atomic level, just like she did in her solo when she stopped that Tsunami. However, this will be a close draw, and Storm will take a lot of damage regardless if we like it or not.
Now, I do not include her divinity here because it is still in progress of evolving, and she hasn't learned how to control it and be in that state fully. However, if we consider her Godhood and talk about development here, which isn't fully accomplished yet, she can take him and probably wipe the floor with him. Still, since we cannot back up this with any scans right now, I think that their battle will be close, and they will be both on the brink of death once the battle ends.
I said that gravity interacting with air molecules causes what we know as atmospheric pressure. And what a storm by controlling and manipulating this weather element, most likely has direct access to the force of gravity (may manipulate it or control it hypothetically speaking), since in addition to creating pressure fields and being immune to the effect of gravity, it has a sense of how it exerts its force on air currents and tides.
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5696166]I assumed that you said that because when I asked how she will breach through Magneto's magnetic defences your next post was about Air pressure. I assumed that this is how you think she will be able to do it.
In short, what I think will happen in this situation if Magneto and Storm ever face... it will be either a draw or it will kill both of them. Their powers are powerful, and Magneto is sharp. Storm is intelligent as well, but Magneto is quite the cunning man... I don't say that he will completely beat her or that she will completely beat him, but they will take severe damage and maybe even destroy each other. Storm, of course, has a bit higher chance of survival based on assumptions. In other words, she has beaten Magneto in the past, but we DO NOT INCLUDE all the growth Magneto did from their last encounter.
Storm is powerful, and she is my top favourite, but this battle will be based on the will and who has more stamina to withstand all those devastating attacks that each one of them will release. And I am like 95% certain that Air Pressure or Electromagnetic manipulation will not cross Storm's mind at first at all. However, if Storm concentrates strong enough lightning that is charged with electrolysis, she can depart his magnetic defences on an atomic level, just like she did in her solo when she stopped that Tsunami. However, this will be a close draw, and Storm will take a lot of damage regardless if we like it or not.
Now, I do not include her divinity here because it is still in progress of evolving, and she hasn't learned how to control it and be in that state fully. However, if we consider her Godhood and talk about development here, which isn't fully accomplished yet, she can take him and probably wipe the floor with him. Still, since we cannot back up this with any scans right now, I think that their battle will be close, and they will be both on the brink of death once the battle ends.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes! No... it wasn't the subject of Magneto I was referring to.
want to clear things up. gravity is one of the four forces of nature:
[url]https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html[/url]
Ororo can manipulate not only energy patterns to create weather phenomena but she also controls the forces of nature:
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That said, she has only canonically controlled em forces but I do believe the other forces could be under her control as well. This has definitely sparked interest after seeing gravity doesn't affect her.
already loved Storm her voting aganist reviving Scarlet Witch just adds on to all those other things....
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5695932]Actually he hasn't he has made wormholes but never black holes infact the only part of gravity he controls is using magnetic fields to negate Earth's gravity on him. Plus radiation kills black holes I forgot the name but it's a proven thing now. So storm could on theory kill said black hole he can't even create.[/QUOTE]
This talk about undoing magnetic fields, wormholes and black holes... It reminded me of Shuri's book, where Storm undid the force fields of a being that opened wormholes to teleport.
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Deleted my post on gravity and pressure? For what reason? '-'
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5696860]Deleted my post on gravity and pressure? For what reason? '-'[/QUOTE]
The images you posted were advertising a pirate comic book site
[CENTER]Here is a more complete sequence of events that transpired in [B][U][URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Silver_Surfer_Vol_3_85"]Silver Surfer v3 #85[/URL][/U][/B]
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[B][U][URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Goddess_(Earth-616)"]The Goddess[/URL][/U][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
yes. her bolt STILL hurt a fully powered Silver Surfer Znop. Not sure what the point is here.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5697005]yes. her bolt STILL hurt a fully powered Silver Surfer Znop. Not sure what the point is here.[/QUOTE]
What I don't understand these characters are said to absorb energy, but end up being affected lol.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5697005]yes. her bolt STILL hurt a fully powered Silver Surfer Znop.[/QUOTE]
When and where did I say said it didn't... I said, "[COLOR="#FF0000"]Here is a more complete sequence of events that transpired in Silver Surfer v3 #85[/COLOR]."
[QUOTE]Not sure what the point is here.[/QUOTE]
Not everything is a conspiracy -- I simply posted the page that came before the "[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]single page[/COLOR][/B]" you posted and the ones that came after it to add context and clarity -- not everyone has and or reads Silver Surfer.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5697040]What I don't understand these characters are said to absorb energy, but end up being affected lol.[/QUOTE]
My headcanon: I can eat cake but it gets all over my face if my mouth is closed and someone decides to slap me with it
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5696118]You're welcome! I explained in the text above, it she direct access to the force of gravity since it manipulates and controls atmospheric pressure, which happens to be directly related to the force that gravity exerts on air molecules.
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She can fly. So gravity doesn't affect her like non-fliers.
The ability to control gravity is not within her range of abilities...yet.