Ororo Munroe: Storm/Hadari Yao Appreciation 2021

[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5692198]Logan literally PISSED in Magneto's helmet at the beginning of DoX and not ONE poster was talking about he needs to learn his place and humble himself. Matter of fact Logan threatens Magneto all the time despite having a mf metal skeleton.[/QUOTE]

LMAO I forgot about that particular instance.

But yes, this is what it boils down to when it comes to Storm. A select group of people despise when she is written in a strong type of way. They will bend themselves like Mr. Fantastic and a Elastagirl 2-some but call them out on it and you get "some of my best friends are black women" energy.

I do worry about the claims of racism. I don't truly know who anybody is on this forum beyond their keyboard, so I hesitate to ascribe a label to anyone here. I don't want to see anyone banned so maybe it might be best to leave those intimations private. Mods seem to ban people for that. At least probably make it less targeted. It's a tricky balance.

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692221]I do worry about the claims of racism. I don't truly know who anybody is on this forum beyond their keyboard, so I hesitate to ascribe a label to anyone here. I don't want to see anyone banned so maybe it might be best to leave those intimations private. Mods seem to ban people for that. At least probably make it less targeted. It's a tricky balance.[/QUOTE]

Honestly the mods shoulda BEEN came in after the first five posts on unwarranted Storm hate considering it had nothing to do with the issue.

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692221]I do worry about the claims of racism. I don't truly know who anybody is on this forum beyond their keyboard, so I hesitate to ascribe a label to anyone here. If don't want to see anyone banned so maybe it might be best to leave those intimations private. Mods seem to ban people for that.[/QUOTE]

As I've said to another user, you don't have to be yelling the N-word at the top of your lugs (or in the case of the internet, caps) to be racist or ascribe to racist "energy". In no way-shape-or form should Storm be humbling herself to Mags. This is a man whose reputation is BUILT ON being superior to everyone else in the room. And the moment a BLACK WOMAN challenges that reputation AND can back up her words comes along all hell breaks loose.

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692221]I do worry about the claims of racism. I don't truly know who anybody is on this forum beyond their keyboard, so I hesitate to ascribe a label to anyone here. If don't want to see anyone banned so maybe it might be best to leave those intimations private. Mods seem to ban people for that. At least probably make it less targeted. It's a tricky balance.[/QUOTE]

Yes this does dfeel like an unsafe space sometimes for people calling out certain things but sometimes i get to a point where i feel like rather be banned so i stay away than not say something when it is blatant. Most things i don't address because i truly believe in freedom of opinion and embrace it but then there are times when it just defies logic and i just have to say something even if i get banned. I will never post to be right but i will post if it feels like the right thing to do. But i try to at least stay kind.

[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5692223]Honestly the mods shoulda BEEN came in after the first five posts on unwarranted Storm hate considering it had nothing to do with the issue.[/QUOTE]

But haven't you heard? They aren't omnipotent.

*Which actually isn't even the right word. The correct word would be omnipresence but I'm being picky.

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692042]Some beautiful Storm art. [URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/CSzOU4dBXV1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link"]Artist[/URL].
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/OtWg5Ng.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

this is stunning I love it.

So Storm being able to beat Magneto turns into her being able to beat the entire planet.

Well, the Queen of Southern salt has found her Prince.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5692233]this is stunning I love it.[/QUOTE]

Apparently, he's making an entire X-Men lineup so I can't wait to see it when it's completed!

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692238]So Storm being able to beat Magneto turns into her being able to beat the entire planet.

Well, the Queen of Southern salt has found her Prince.[/QUOTE]

LOL I screamed. Please, nobody in their right mind thinks she can take on every single person on Earth.

[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5692257]LOL I screamed. Please, nobody in their right mind thinks she can take on every single person on Earth.[/QUOTE]

Hey according to the Queen, Storm is too old to beat anyone so their logic conflicts.

[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5692257]LOL I screamed. Please, nobody in their right mind thinks she can take on every single person on Earth.[/QUOTE]

Like attracts like. Makes my life easier when I know who to ignore.

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692226]As I've said to another user, you don't have to be yelling the N-word at the top of your lugs (or in the case of the internet, caps) to be racist or ascribe to racist "energy". In no way-shape-or form should Storm be humbling herself to Mags. This is a man whose reputation is BUILT ON being superior to everyone else in the room. And the moment a BLACK WOMAN challenges that reputation AND can back up her words comes along all hell breaks loose.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I am a firm believer that racism or racists energy needs to be called out. And I'll be honest, I still don't really know if it exists on this forum or not within certain users, cause again, I just don't want to go there. I think I told myself that since this is a forum about comic books, I don't want to expend my energy fighting against perceived racism on what to me is a small inconsequential stage. I don't think I am going to change minds or be an effective kind of change by battling it here.

But I personally don't have a problem if others feel it is worthwhile to do so. I always go back and forth on whether I should have that kind of defeated/ laid back attitude but at the end of the day, I just don't feel like dealing with the hassle and threat of being banned. I have nothing but respect for those that do so though without fear of the consequences. I would just hate to lose some members over it.

I also still am trying to process how Storm needs to be humbled cause she talked shit to Magneto! Freaking Magneto! And I always get a kick out of how anyone that tries to assert Storm's strength or talks crap about her, you can always count on a certain poster to show up.

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692258]Hey according to the Queen, Storm is too old to beat anyone so their logic conflicts.[/QUOTE]

LOOOL my chest omg you are HILARIOUS

[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5692271]LOOOL my chest omg you are HILARIOUS[/QUOTE]

I absorb the energy I receive. They are giving me court Jester energies so that's what I'm putting out.

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692108]It just never amazes me the lengths people will go to when they try and sh1t on Storm's name. Like are we SERIOUSLY supposed to feel something other than joy when she calls out Magneto? This is the same guy who straight up told the Avengers they were all basically bugs save for Thor.

I just have a feeling that if it were Xavier or Exodus who made that statement towards Magneto the energy they're putting out would be a complete 180.

Some people just want Storm to be a mammy who does nothing but shoot ineffective lightning and juuuuust enough wind to support her body weight a few feet off the ground. Anything over that and it's:
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beloved im telling you. this has been going on for years. miraculously the only thing different now is that these individuals can no longer point to canon to support their vitriol for the character. at one point, as you know, they could point to tge fact she wasn't omega and a goddess because vanon supported that but now with that no longer being the.case they must find other means to vent their frustrations. its actually quite entertaining to witness the meltdown.

and you're absolutely right. had it been Exodus, or sinister, or even Jean people would have been cheering but because its storm, even though she has the resume to back such a statement, some take issue with it. it wouldn't be this well maybe she was talking about the other omegas or other means of rationalization. it would just be accepted. I honestly can't be mad because the xoffices have not been kind to her in the past so I can understand how casual xmen fans may not get seeing her in this manner. However, once its been explained and you have people still trying to lowball her is where it becomes silly to me. As you said, they would much prefer her pushing Xavier around in his willchair, babysitting mutants, while taking orders from kitty instead of being the character she was created to be.

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692269]I agree. I am a firm believer that racism or racists energy needs to be called out. And I'll be honest, I still don't really know if it exists on this forum or not within certain users, cause again, I just don't want to go there. I think I told myself that since this is a forum about comic books, I don't want to expend my energy fighting against perceived racism on what to me is a small inconsequential stage. I don't think I am going to change minds or be an effective kind of change by battling it here.

But I personally don't have a problem if others feel it is worthwhile to do so. I always go back and forth on whether I should have that kind of defeated/ laid back attitude but at the end of the day, I just don't feel like dealing with the hassle and threat of being banned. I have nothing but respect for those that do so though without fear of the consequences. I would just hate to lose some members over it.

I also still am trying to process how Storm needs to be humbled cause she talked shit to Magneto! Freaking Magneto! And I always get a kick out of how anyone that tries to assert Storm's strength or talks crap about her, you can always count on a certain poster to show up.[/QUOTE]

This is also very logical and i like showing my art here and this is pretty much the only "social media" platform i regular so maybe my manic side is a little worked up so i'm going to go take a break. You sound like the "good "me.

[QUOTE=jwatson;5692227]Yes this does dfeel like an unsafe space sometimes for people calling out certain things but sometimes i get to a point where i feel like rather be banned so i stay away than not say something when it is blatant. Most things i don't address because i truly believe in freedom of opinion and embrace it but then there are times when it just defies logic and i just have to say something even if i get banned. I will never post to be right but i will post if it feels like the right thing to do. But i try to at least stay kind.[/QUOTE]

I get it. I really do. As a black man I also just get tired of how we have to claw and fight for our respect and earned positions. And when you rightfully try to call out something or fight injustice, the opposition now gets to use the new buzzword of being too "woke" as a way of making you look crazy and unreasonable. It does stand out to me that Storm often has the target for criticism that many other characters just don't get. Sorry, I do respect others opinions, but I don't know what some were on about when it came to Storm checking Magneto. Just bizzare.

I’m dipping out of that but good luck y’all. The minute that somebody said being called racist is a slur I knew it was a lost cause. Love how the narrative has changed to “Storm fans xyz” when the hate train started way before a single Storm fan started bucking.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5692290]beloved im telling you. this has been going on for years. miraculously the only thing different now is that these individuals can no longer point to canon to support their vitriol for the character. at one point, as you know, they could point to tge fact she wasn't omega and a goddess because vanon supported that but now with that no longer being the.case they must find other means to vent their frustrations. its actually quite entertaining to witness the meltdown.

and you're absolutely right. had it been Exodus, or sinister, or even Jean people would have been cheering but because its storm, even though she has the resume to back such a statement, some take issue with it. it wouldn't be this well maybe she was talking about the other omegas or other means of rationalization. it would just be accepted. I honestly can't be mad because the xoffices have not been kind to her in the past so I can understand how casual xmen fans may not get seeing her in this manner. However, once its been explained and you have people still trying to lowball her is where it becomes silly to me. As you said, they would much prefer her pushing Xavier around in his willchair, babysitting mutants, while taking orders from kitty instead of being the character she was created to be.[/QUOTE]

And quite frankly if we look at the QC fight scene:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/VuTiFSx.png[/IMG]

Who here could REALSTICALLY tango with Magneto? Among QC I would say maybe other than Storm only Exodus would have a decent chance at coming out victorious. Kate, for all her bluster, only got the "kill strike" because she snuck up on him.

[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5692297]I’m dipping out of that but good luck y’all. The minute that somebody said being called racist is a slur I knew it was a lost cause. Love how the narrative has changed to “Storm fans xyz” when the hate train started way before a single Storm fan started bucking.[/QUOTE]

Yeah im backing out as well. Saturius brought me back to me senses but sometimes things just feel so wrong i feel extra sensitive to that energy. lol. I'm going to go play ultimate alliance 3.

[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5692297]I’m dipping out of that but good luck y’all. The minute that somebody said being called racist is a slur I knew it was a lost cause. Love how the narrative has changed to “Storm fans xyz” when the hate train started way before a single Storm fan started bucking.[/QUOTE]

See ya around Kingdom and thank you for reminding me Logan took a piss in Magneto's helmet, LMAO!

[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5692133]It was a whole sausage party when Magneto kneeled before Cyclops but Storm saying he's not the most powerful in the room turned into pages upon pages of her needing to "humble herself" lmaoooo. The misogyny and anti blackness on here is ASTOUNDING[/QUOTE]


right that was a hot mess but the girls were living.


[QUOTE=Saturius;5692148]Yeah, I just can't believe there are people out there mad that Storm is talking smack to Magneto and Doom of all people?! I can understand people being miffed when she did it to Captain America in Cota, but Doom and Magneto?! I too am curious what some people want from Storm's role in the Xmen.

She's been so badly mistreated for so long I can't understand why any wouldn't be celebrating her new status as Regent of Sol and her emerging prominence in the Xmen after nearly 2 decades of being shafted. I am cautious about it but damn, at least it's an effort we haven't seen the X office do before so I am excited. Do these people want Storm still taking orders from Kitty? Want her leadership constantly depicted as crap? Want her as a wallflower who never asserts her authority every now and then? I like Storm's arrogance. I am not interested in perfect characters and her arrogance is never overdone nor a constant part of her character like say Emma Frost, so I can appreciate/tolerate it more.

The same with Storm's powers. I have never cared about her being omega or whatever such nonsense, although her always doing lightning is boring. Still, you have Jean absorbing stars, Magneto opening wormholes, and all this other op crap but when Storm does stuff like that it's too much, not realistic blah blah blah. It's like people work overtime to keep the character down and want her to stay in the shitty rut she's been in. They're free to want that. I am glad that higher-ups right now don't share that desire though and are finally giving the character the right push in positive directions.[/QUOTE]

agreed 100%

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692180]I can assure you if Jean was still on the Quiet Council and called out Magneto the way Storm did no one would be saying that Jean needs to humble herself.

*And no, I'm not calling out Jean. Simply using the only other mutant that could actually challenge Magneto.*[/QUOTE]

of course they wouldn't have any issue. but like we've been saying they can stay mad because it won't change canon. she is a goddess and omega. crying about it won't change if

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692200]And I see the queen of southern salt is alive and well, lmao.[/QUOTE]

lmfao you are a mess lol

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692295]I get it. I really do. As a black man I also just get tired of how we have to claw and fight for our respect and earned positions. And when you rightfully try to call out something or fight injustice, the opposition now gets to use the new buzzword of being too "woke" as a way of making you look crazy and unreasonable. It does stand out to me that Storm often has the target for criticism that many other characters just don't get. Sorry, I do respect others opinions, but I don't know what some were on about when it came to Storm checking Magneto. Just bizzare.[/QUOTE]

This. All of this. But they try to paint us as crazy when we start to question it.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5692315]right that was a hot mess but the girls were living.




agreed 100%



of course they wouldn't have any issue. but like we've been saying they can stay mad because it won't change canon. [B]she is a goddess and omega. crying about it won't change if [/B]



lmfao you are a mess lol[/QUOTE]

Are you positive? I think they believe if the dump enough salt in every thread then Marvel will finally bend the knee.

xD hey like I said earlier, I use the energy I receive.

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692307]And quite frankly if we look at the QC fight scene:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/VuTiFSx.png[/IMG]

Who here could REALSTICALLY tango with Magneto? Among QC I would say maybe other than Storm only Exodus would have a decent chance at coming out victorious. Kate, for all her bluster, only got the "kill strike" because she snuck up on him.[/QUOTE]

storm has already taken out magneto and recently.

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she's already proven what she can do and why Magneto was quiet when she put him in his place.

I am gonna put this here cause it is always something I have always wanted to say. I always find it laughable how some posters act like the Storm fandom is more crazy or fervent than others. Not just here, but around the entire web. They act like they are better, more sane, more reasonable etc. Thats so dumb. If you sought out cbr, made a username, and even have ONE post talking about comics or a comic book character, you're on the same level of "crazy" as everyone else. 1 post, or a thousand, you are on here talking about a niche product of comic book characters that many perceive as juvenile or pulpy nonsense. They need to quick acting like they are above it all, they're better, more special, and exempt from that "stigma." It's ridiculous.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5692348]storm has already taken out magneto and recently.

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she's already proven what she can do and why Magneto was quiet when she put him in his place.[/QUOTE]

Bringing the receipts Thank you! And again, I maintain my stance that only Storm's morals saved his ass in the classic days.

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692330]Are you positive? I think they believe if the dump enough salt in every thread then Marvel will finally bend the knee.

xD hey like I said earlier, I use the energy I receive.[/QUOTE]

you know? maybe that is their approach. I just love seeing the meltdown down. I'm seeing so much misinformation that has been debunked by canon: glass cannon, no defenses, not a real god, human worshippers make her less of a god because it's not mutant. lolol. none of it is worth engaging because what will happen is that storm fans will get banned and they will go off Scott free to troll the next time storm is shown in a favorable light. my recommendation would be to ignore them and eat the popcorn. the more erroneous the better because at the end of the day everything storm fans have said about her turned out to be TRUE. that is the sweetest victory and speaks volumes louder than anything we can say in response to their nonsense.

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692352]I am gonna put this here cause it is always something I have always wanted to say. I always find it laughable how some posters act like the Storm fandom is more crazy or fervent than others. Not just here, but around the entire web. They act like they are better, more sane, more reasonable etc. Thats so dumb. If you sought out cbr, made a username, and even have ONE post talking about comics or a comic book character, you're on the same level of "crazy" as everyone else. 1 post, or a thousand, you are on here talking about a niche product of comic book characters that many perceive as juvenile or pulpy nonsense. They need to quick acting like they are above it all, they're better, more special, and exempt from that "stigma." It's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5692360]you know? maybe that is their approach. I just love seeing the meltdown down. I'm seeing so much misinformation that has been debunked by canon: glass cannon, no defenses, not a real god, [U] human worshippers make her less of a god because it's not mutant.[/U] lolol. none of it is worth engaging because what will happen is that storm fans will get banned and they will go off Scott free to troll the next time storm is shown in a favorable light. my recommendation would be to ignore them and eat the popcorn. the more erroneous the better because at the end of the day everything storm fans have said about her turned out to be TRUE. [B]that is the sweetest victory [/B]and speaks volumes louder than anything we can say in response to their nonsense.[/QUOTE]

But.. huh? That doesn't... My head hurts, honestly.

A-fing-men!

I'm predicting this next year+ under Ewing is going to be a wild ride for us and a-many over salted meals for some.

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692355]Bringing the receipts Thank you! And again, I maintain my stance that only Storm's morals saved his ass in the classic days.[/QUOTE]

agreed. its something magneto has acknowledged so canon definitely supports her threat reminding him of his place.

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692352]I am gonna put this here cause it is always something I have always wanted to say. I always find it laughable how some posters act like the Storm fandom is more crazy or fervent than others. Not just here, but around the entire web. They act like they are better, more sane, more reasonable etc. Thats so dumb. If you sought out cbr, made a username, and even have ONE post talking about comics or a comic book character, you're on the same level of "crazy" as everyone else. 1 post, or a thousand, you are on here talking about a niche product of comic book characters that many perceive as juvenile or pulpy nonsense. They need to quick acting like they are above it all, they're better, more special, and exempt from that "stigma." It's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

you're speaking so much truth today!

You know a black man is single-handedly responsible for all the chaos that has ensued revolving around ororo Tanehesi Coates made canon what many of her haters feared for so long. Thank you Coates for your contribution to her mythos. You will never be forgotten for this!!!

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692368]But.. huh? That doesn't... My head hurts, honestly.

A-fing-men!

I'm predicting this next year+ under Ewing is going to be a wild ride for us and a-many over salted meals for some.[/QUOTE]

baby I'm ready for it all and inma be eating my popcorn while tge storm haters lose their minds lol

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5692348]storm has already taken out magneto and recently.

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she's already proven what she can do and why Magneto was quiet when she put him in his place.[/QUOTE]
that's about it.

[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5692383]You know a black man is single-handedly responsible for all the chaos that has ensued revolving around ororo Tanehesi Coates made canon what many of her haters feared for so long. Thank you Coates for your contribution to her mythos. You will never be forgotten for this!!![/QUOTE]

It's already spread to other spaces other than comics. The Hadari Yao status is solidified.

Speaking of Coates, or rather his antithesis, I noticed someone edited Storm's wikipedia page to show off a picture of Stormcaster. Now that is an aspect of her, I wish would be forgotten.

[QUOTE=Stormy;5691824]Yes, but I think the issue traces give an aspect that Mysteirum is fluid, a liquid, I think that's why it had this interpretation, but it would be nice if it was really a magnetic vortex.. xD[/QUOTE]

That remains to be seen

[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5691852]I had to lol when I read those posts. Magneto/Doom are super arrogant (we’ve seen other less powerful characters check Magneto and people applaud them) but a black woman asserting herself - “that’s a problem”….or still mad because Rogue still isn’t on the omega list. Part of me is ready to go there but They can stay mad.

I love that Storm voted no and I’d love to see an exchange with her & Magneto, and/or the Avengers about it. There is something to be said about justice. I feel like, same with the P5, there is a karmic price tjat needs to be paid on the path to redemption.[/QUOTE]

Honestly unless storm is doing the judging as she is the highest authority in the solar system..... I don't see why she should get herself involved not while she has literally a galaxy worth of issues to deal with. But seeing storm anywhere is most definitely always a win so I get behind that.

[QUOTE=Saturius;5692352]I am gonna put this here cause it is always something I have always wanted to say. I always find it laughable how some posters act like the Storm fandom is more crazy or fervent than others. Not just here, but around the entire web. They act like they are better, more sane, more reasonable etc. Thats so dumb. If you sought out cbr, made a username, and even have ONE post talking about comics or a comic book character, you're on the same level of "crazy" as everyone else. 1 post, or a thousand, you are on here talking about a niche product of comic book characters that many perceive as juvenile or pulpy nonsense. They need to quick acting like they are above it all, they're better, more special, and exempt from that "stigma." It's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]


A woman talking truth unto power. A black woman.
There are studies going back to the 70’s which show how this unhinges some men.

Sorry the link isn’t working, just google ‘women talking more than men’ for many, many links.

[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5692390]that's about it.[/QUOTE]

exactly friend!!

[QUOTE=Subliminally;5692392]It's already spread to other spaces other than comics. The Hadari Yao status is solidified.

Speaking of Coates, or rather his antithesis, I noticed someone edited Storm's wikipedia page to show off a picture of Stormcaster. Now that is an aspect of her, I wish would be forgotten.[/QUOTE]


You're absolutely right in terms of its reach beyond the comics. I mentioned it before but once you get storm to level 90 in marvel future revolution your title selection can be selected as hadari yao.

oh and stormcaster in its proper context is ok. it was meant to return her powers she "lost" after forge shot her back in the 80s. however, beyond that story I agree and wish it would be forgotten. her needing it after her powers returned was unnecessary and was used by Guggenheim to highlight inadequacies he saw in her character. glad those days are gone