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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5674128]lolol don't remind me lolol.
do you feel like considering their past Emma has done enough for ororo to let it go? like a part of me thinks she wouldn't be petty to hold a grudge like thst and would understand that everyone can change.[/QUOTE]
Personally I could never cry in the arms of my abuser, I feel like the writer forced that scene on ‘Ro just to whitewash emma’s abusive garbage.
Forgiveness it’s always a possibility (I guess) but some of the stuff that Emma pulled on Storm should not be forgotten.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5673981]What kind of energy is coming out of the Mutant's fingertip? Storm managed to cut / disconnect easily
By the way, do you know more moments like this in the storm, cutting power?
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Guys this is a durability feat she handles and energy whip powerful enough to slice entire ships like hot knife through butter
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[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5674134]I don't think X-Office would allow that but it would be funny if it happens.[/QUOTE]
exactly. why they did it twice to ororo should never have happened.
this site would have imploded if that happened with cyclops lol
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5674085]do you feel like he could have done more or anything differently?[/QUOTE]
You know when they are in a circle of friends, that each one will present a part of their work, and one ends up picking up a subject that they don't like very much, but they have to do the work to earn a "grade"
So in Duggan's case, assuming he didn't choose to put Storm in his title, he did the basics of the basics so he could say "She's here in Marauders" and wrote lazily, although she had a good time, but it wasn't anymore that it was there, because it had to be, until the moment it started to shine (Sword)
I don't think Hickman likes Storm as much either, although I recognize that things are only happening because he allows
What would I do?, basically almost the same in the last issues she participated, I would let her dive into the title proposal, I would make her venture out into the world, saving more mutants, while showing more of her ideas, drawing her without fear of impose your opinions.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5674142]Guys this is a durability feat she handles and energy whip powerful enough to slice entire ships like hot knife through butter[/QUOTE]
Has she shown to have done this before? What an interesting display of her power here.
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[QUOTE=orionblue;5674176]Has she shown to have done this before? What an interesting display of her power here.[/QUOTE]
Thermokinesis applied on molecular level should be enough to stop the energy in the whip from interacting with the atoms forming the molecules in Ororo’s hand, no EM energy transfer = no damage
If it’s a plasma whip it could also be contained by the same em fields Ororo uses to contain lightning.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5674142]Guys this is a durability feat she handles and energy whip powerful enough to slice entire ships like hot knife through butter[/QUOTE]
I think she held it, just as you hold a blade carefully so you dont cut yourself.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5674195]Thermokinesis applied on molecular level should be enough to stop the energy in the whip from interacting with the atoms forming the molecules in Ororo’s hand, no EM energy transfer = no damage
If it’s a plasma whip it could also be contained by the same em fields Ororo uses to contain lightning.[/QUOTE]
This is truly interesting! Thank you for answering.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5674196]I think she held it, just as you hold a blade carefully so you dont cut yourself.[/QUOTE]
Yh but that is when the blade is still lash was in the process of well, lashing. She swung it back after cutting the ship so it was coming with full force.
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If the whip is bio-electrical in nature Storm would be able to perceive its energy pattern and thus make it harmless to her.
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I don’t think this is available outside the UK, but it was jolly interesting, particularly as they report that the African genome is the richest human genome, containing [I]all[/I] the possible variants of skin/hair colour. Which made me think of a certain goddess.
[url]https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000ykpf[/url]
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5674230]Yh but that is when the blade is still lash was in the process of well, lashing. She swung it back after cutting the ship so it was coming with full force.[/QUOTE]
Our truth, you have a good eye.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5674195]Thermokinesis applied on molecular level should be enough to stop the energy in the whip from interacting with the atoms forming the molecules in Ororo’s hand, no EM energy transfer = no damage
If it’s a plasma whip it could also be contained by the same em fields Ororo uses to contain lightning.[/QUOTE]
I know Iceman uses Absolute Zero to cancel the energy, If the Storm did that what you said another possible indecency she might have Absolute Zero?
Anyway, we have to ask the writer what the energy was, lol, Does anyone dare ask Duggan?
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5674349]Our truth, you have a good eye.
I know Iceman uses Absolute Zero to cancel the energy, If the Storm did that what you said another possible indecency she might have Absolute Zero?
Anyway, we have to ask the writer what the energy was, lol, Does anyone dare ask Duggan?[/QUOTE]
Who knows, our science says reaching absolute zero is an impossibility due to the rules of thermodynamics but one such as Storm could for sure come ever so close with enough effort.
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[QUOTE=Stormultt Divine;5664616]WE LOVE Storm on the great ring ahh!
And sitting right next to Isca.
I cannot wait for Storm and Gensis/Apoc interactions when those two come back.[/QUOTE]
After this latest issue of Hellions...I'm starting to want to see something jump off between Storm and Isca. Not necessarily a relationship, but I'd like to see some flirting or romantic tension. Anybody else want this too? Just me? Alrighty then
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5674195]Thermokinesis applied on molecular level should be enough to stop the energy in the whip from interacting with the atoms forming the molecules in Ororo’s hand, no EM energy transfer = no damage
If it’s a plasma whip it could also be contained by the same em fields Ororo uses to contain lightning.[/QUOTE]
I like it!!
also oan and general comment I thought I read somewhere here iceman hasn't generated absolute zero. that isn't correct he has:
[img]https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/x-men-versus-kuurth-3.jpg[/img]
now depending on you ask storm hasn't made temperatures this cold yet; however, though this first scan isn't as solid proof though I argue the opposite she did create temperatures with wind that made it as cold or colder than space and canonically those Temps are at absolute zero:
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To be honest, I don't mind if Storm doesn't reach absolutel zero because Bobby is supposed to be the supreme in that department HOWEVER, she should damn well be able to get as close to it as possible. Isn't the coldest place in Space 1 degree above absolute zero? She should be able to reach that with no issue
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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5674592]To be honest, I don't mind if Storm doesn't reach absolutel zero because Bobby is supposed to be the supreme in that department HOWEVER, she should damn well be able to get as close to it as possible. Isn't the coldest place in Space 1 degree above absolute zero? She should be able to reach that with no issue[/QUOTE]
Mrs deathbird said the deepest of space temperature is absolute zero and psylocke mentions the temperatures she made during the hyperstorms showing was worse than deep space. in terms of his omega level abilities I dont necessarily take it as how cold he can get when it comes to ice but the insane amount of stuff he can do with it like transfer his consciousness and make replicas of himself.
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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5674592]To be honest, I don't mind if Storm doesn't reach absolutel zero [B]because Bobby is supposed to be the supreme in that department HOWEVER[/B], she should damn well be able to get as close to it as possible. Isn't the coldest place in Space 1 degree above absolute zero? She should be able to reach that with no issue[/QUOTE]
One of the reasons I didn't like this list, Storm's powers are too broad, and if there's an omega in Positive Temperature Manipulation, or an omega in Elemental Manipulation (whether they're an element or not), that means Ororo isn't an omega in these areas? And as I recall, Iceman was omega in cryokinesis (ice manipulation), not specifically in minus temperature (yes, I know this is a subpotency) and also because of his secondary mutation he was considered omega.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5674670]One of the reasons I didn't like this list, Storm's powers are too broad, and if there's an omega in Positive Temperature Manipulation, or an omega in Elemental Manipulation (whether they're an element or not), that means Ororo isn't an omega in these areas? And as I recall, Iceman was omega in cryokinesis (ice manipulation), not specifically in minus temperature (yes, I know this is a subpotency) and also because of his secondary mutation he was considered omega.[/QUOTE]
I agree. But at this point, if they say negative temperature manipulation is his thing I don't want to worry myself up over it
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5674670]One of the reasons I didn't like this list, Storm's powers are too broad, and if there's an omega in Positive Temperature Manipulation, or an omega in Elemental Manipulation (whether they're an element or not), that means Ororo isn't an omega in these areas? And as I recall, Iceman was omega in cryokinesis (ice manipulation), not specifically in minus temperature (yes, I know this is a subpotency) and also because of his secondary mutation he was considered omega.[/QUOTE]
it is broad but at least we got a taste of what that means when she created climate for an entire planet.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5674578]I like it!!
also oan and general comment I thought I read somewhere here iceman hasn't generated absolute zero. that isn't correct he has:
[img]https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/x-men-versus-kuurth-3.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Mmmm, I’m not sure Bobby actually reached absolute zero, maybe he just pushed for it coming very close…. Would it really make any difference to him?
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5674823]Mmmm, I’m not sure Bobby actually reached absolute zero, maybe he just pushed for it coming very close…. Would it really make any difference to him?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure he doesn't care but I'm certain many moons ago his fans used this as proof he could do abs but now you have me questioning it. nevertheless its not that important just more an observation.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8d9ZSxVoAEUqwC?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
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This is a nice example of Ororo using cold to break matter apart:
[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/af33/RiptideX/BDA14AC2-07BD-4FB2-8841-2C8F781CA1A2.jpeg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5674852]This is a nice example of Ororo using cold to break matter apart:
[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/af33/RiptideX/BDA14AC2-07BD-4FB2-8841-2C8F781CA1A2.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
yes that was a very resourceful use of her powers.
was that xtreme or uncanny I forget lol
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5674864]yes that was a very resourceful use of her powers.[/QUOTE]
Interestingly enough Storm mastery over temperatures and atmospheric gases should allow her to turn oxygen (just to name one) into its liquid or solid form on a whim for a variety of purposes and effects:
Imagine the horror of a tornado made of liquid oxygen (“Because of its cryogenic nature, liquid oxygen can cause the materials it touches to become extremely brittle. Liquid oxygen is also a very powerful oxidizing agent: organic materials will burn rapidly and energetically in liquid oxygen. Further, if soaked in liquid oxygen, some materials such as coal briquettes, carbon black, etc., can detonate unpredictably from sources of ignition such as flames, sparks or impact from light blows. Petrochemicals, including asphalt, often exhibit this behavior.”)
Imagine shards of crystal oxygen charged with lightning (“At very high pressures, solid oxygen changes from an insulating to a metallic state and at very low temperatures, it even transforms to a superconducting state.”) and flying against a target at hundred of mph.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5674811]it is broad but at least we got a taste of what that means when she created climate for an entire planet.[/QUOTE]
Did she create the climate from scratch then?? Because I had heard that with the actions of Hope, Vulcan, Iceman, Magneto and Sobunar, the mood was kind of already established, but the one who really needed to shape it, put it on the axis was Storm?
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5674916]Did she create the climate from scratch then?? Because I had heard that with the actions of Hope, Vulcan, Iceman, Magneto and Sobunar, the mood was kind of already established, but the one who really needed to shape it, put it on the axis was Storm?[/QUOTE]
Climate= she created stable and long lasting seasonal patterns
The climate of a country or zone includes the long-term average atmospheric conditions. Thus, the climate is average weather information observed over decades. 3. The atmospheric elements of weather are air pressure, humidity, wind, temperature, rain, cloudiness, storms, snow, precipitation, etc.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5674898]Interestingly enough Storm mastery over temperatures and atmospheric gases should allow her to turn oxygen (just to name one) into its liquid or solid form on a whim for a variety of purposes and effects:
Imagine the horror of a tornado made of liquid oxygen (“Because of its cryogenic nature, liquid oxygen can cause the materials it touches to become extremely brittle. Liquid oxygen is also a very powerful oxidizing agent: organic materials will burn rapidly and energetically in liquid oxygen. Further, if soaked in liquid oxygen, some materials such as coal briquettes, carbon black, etc., can detonate unpredictably from sources of ignition such as flames, sparks or impact from light blows. Petrochemicals, including asphalt, often exhibit this behavior.”)
Imagine shards of crystal oxygen charged with lightning (“At very high pressures, solid oxygen changes from an insulating to a metallic state and at very low temperatures, it even transforms to a superconducting state.”) and flying against a target at hundred of mps.[/QUOTE]
I'm not very knowledgeable about the subject, but I think I understand what you mean. It would be a show and [B]BOOMMM[/B]
[QUOTE=Daedra;5674922]Climate= she created stable and long lasting seasonal patterns
The climate of a country or zone includes the long-term average atmospheric conditions. Thus, the climate is average weather information observed over decades. 3. The atmospheric elements of weather are air pressure, humidity, wind, temperature, rain, cloudiness, storms, snow, precipitation, etc.[/QUOTE]
Now I understand, thank you
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5674670]One of the reasons I didn't like this list, Storm's powers are too broad, and if there's an omega in Positive Temperature Manipulation, or an omega in Elemental Manipulation (whether they're an element or not), that means Ororo isn't an omega in these areas? And as I recall, Iceman was omega in cryokinesis (ice manipulation), not specifically in minus temperature (yes, I know this is a subpotency) and also because of his secondary mutation he was considered omega.[/QUOTE]
I am of the opinion that in the realm of omega level mutants pure power doesn't cut it but rather versatility. Why? Because omega mutants are at a level where how much you have doesn't matter it's like infinity plus infinity is infinity it doesn't change anything because it's still infinity or in this case immeasurable.
Like let's look at omega telepathy for example, telepathy is a stock ability consisting of several sub abilities illusions, mind control, mind reading...etc. having omega telepathy means you can use all these abilities on an immeasurable degree but ultimately it is still telepathy. The same can be said for weather manipulation which by nature an amalgamation of several other elemental abilities rolled into one specifically thermokinesis, hydrokinesis, aerokinesis and electrokinesis. But that's average weather manipulation Storm's version takes things way further by not being limited by the elements that make up weather on earth but the fundamental forces and energies that govern all forms of weather well anywhere. And these forces and energies are vast like ALOT it is kinda mind bogging we don't even know how weather on certain planets are like and from planet size storm is seen to have the power to rewrite the laws of the atmosphere setting up an entire planetary climate and weather system. So looking at this and looking at telepathy it makes sense that storm has omega level control over all forces, energies and elements that make up the weather.
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was storm in anything or do anything of interest today, emphasis on the interest part lol.
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[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5674592]To be honest, I don't mind if Storm doesn't reach absolutel zero because Bobby is supposed to be the supreme in that department HOWEVER, she should damn well be able to get as close to it as possible. Isn't the coldest place in Space 1 degree above absolute zero? She should be able to reach that with no issue[/QUOTE]
Ehhh I don't think he is supposed to be the supreme but kinda like having no limit to his temperature lowering ability. But that doesn't mean other omegas can't replicate his ability to its fullest extent storm being the most likely she has direct control over temperature abs can increase or reduce temperature as she sees fit abd this is due to her omega level weather manipulation so it makes sense that she she should be able to hit the theoretical limit of absolute zero. But I would like to say that this doesn't mean bobby isn't more or less powerful than other omegas are their level it doesn't matter what matters is versatility abd storm is nigh infinitely more versatile than him.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5675683]was storm in anything or do anything of interest today, emphasis on the interest part lol.[/QUOTE]
Nothing of relevance
A small panel in Avengers tech-on #1 (she gets depowered)
Cota #6 (the preview showed it all)
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5675683]was storm in anything or do anything of interest today, emphasis on the interest part lol.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3G2mJDb3h_w/U0Le3h5FKjI/AAAAAAAAMOY/s6gM9sw14Vg/s3200/relyonpretty3.gif[/img]
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5675705]Nothing of relevance
A small panel in Avengers tech-on #1 (she gets depowered)
Cota #6 (the preview showed it all)[/QUOTE]
oh man thats awful..... thanks boo
[QUOTE=Havok83;5675721][img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3G2mJDb3h_w/U0Le3h5FKjI/AAAAAAAAMOY/s6gM9sw14Vg/s3200/relyonpretty3.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
who me???? no never!!!
[img]https://c.tenor.com/oQQn6DPILSEAAAAM/so-innocent-angel.gif[/img]
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I thought Storm fans might appreciate this.
Whipped this up based on a mutual’s idea…
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8h6xsVXIAkxPk-?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]
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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8h6yfSXIAQGVvC?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5675705]Nothing of relevance
A small panel in Avengers tech-on #1 (she gets depowered)
Cota #6 (the preview showed it all)[/QUOTE]
That's it Krakoa is not 616 -- she's wearing her Evolution outfit :p:p:p
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Just caught up on SWORD #7. Storm was playing no games at the dinner with Doom. She was like, "Bish, who is you talking to?" I loved how Al Ewing wrote that scene.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5674670]One of the reasons I didn't like this list, Storm's powers are too broad, and if there's an omega in Positive Temperature Manipulation, or an omega in Elemental Manipulation (whether they're an element or not), that means Ororo isn't an omega in these areas? And as I recall, Iceman was omega in cryokinesis (ice manipulation), not specifically in minus temperature (yes, I know this is a subpotency) and also because of his secondary mutation he was considered omega.[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't see the point in Ororo being omega in weather manipulation where one of the elements of this skill is temperature and not being able to achieve unimaginable feats with this skill. The Storm's mutation is only one (manipulation of nature), but its mutation has ramifications that allow it to manipulate from energy (be it thermal, kinetic, static, electromagnetic, etc.) to matter, even if within a more elemental spectrum ( such as hydrogen, oxygen, among others). Technically Ororo manipulates the primitive elements of nature, it's like a cake recipe, before the cake is a cake, it's the ingredients like eggs, milk, flour, sugar, etc... That's what Ororo does, she takes the ingredients and... catapluff, the magic happens.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5675682]I am of the opinion that in the realm of omega level mutants pure power doesn't cut it but rather versatility. Why? Because omega mutants are at a level where how much you have doesn't matter it's like infinity plus infinity is infinity it doesn't change anything because it's still infinity or in this case immeasurable.
Like let's look at omega telepathy for example, telepathy is a stock ability consisting of several sub abilities illusions, mind control, mind reading...etc. having omega telepathy means you can use all these abilities on an immeasurable degree but ultimately it is still telepathy. The same can be said for weather manipulation which by nature an amalgamation of several other elemental abilities rolled into one specifically thermokinesis, hydrokinesis, aerokinesis and electrokinesis. But that's average weather manipulation Storm's version takes things way further by not being limited by the elements that make up weather on earth but the fundamental forces and energies that govern all forms of weather well anywhere. And these forces and energies are vast like ALOT it is kinda mind bogging we don't even know how weather on certain planets are like and from planet size storm is seen to have the power to rewrite the laws of the atmosphere setting up an entire planetary climate and weather system. So looking at this and looking at telepathy it makes sense that storm has omega level control over all forces, energies and elements that make up the weather.[/QUOTE]
So, but writers might decide not to focus on that side of the Storm's powers because there's already an omega to that power aspect, you know? Also, Ororo doesn't have feats that explicitly prove she hits Absolute Zero, like Iceman does, however, I think she can.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5675705]Nothing of relevance
A small panel in Avengers tech-on #1 (she gets depowered)
Cota #6 (the preview showed it all)[/QUOTE]
Is this comic of the avengers canonical? (This loss of power can cause confusion in Krakoa)
[QUOTE=Mercury;5675926]I thought Storm fans might appreciate this.
Whipped this up based on a mutualÂ’s ideaÂ…
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I like that
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5676701]I honestly don't see the point in Ororo being omega in weather manipulation where one of the elements of this skill is temperature and not being able to achieve unimaginable feats with this skill. The Storm's mutation is only one (manipulation of nature), but its mutation has ramifications that allow it to manipulate from energy (be it thermal, kinetic, static, electromagnetic, etc.) to matter, even if within a more elemental spectrum ( such as hydrogen, oxygen, among others). Technically Ororo manipulates the primitive elements of nature, it's like a cake recipe, before the cake is a cake, it's the ingredients like eggs, milk, flour, sugar, etc... That's what Ororo does, she takes the ingredients and... catapluff, the magic happens.[/QUOTE]
Yes! You're right, in my opinion it was a nerf in her real ability to put her as an omega just in Weather Manipulation. It was like a bucket of cold water, although now she is officially an omega. Lol
