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people may not like how Coates is doing with Storm's Godhood but at least they should give an chance if another writer wants to use this concept, after all, as it has already been said, it is still underdeveloped and personally I think a great addition to Storm and erasing this concept would be a loss of opportunities.
I don't care who writes about Ororo's divinity as long as it provides a good story.
PS: ow an official Marvel writer here, I hope Guggenheim, Bendis, Aaron and etc ... don't secretly read what we wrote about what they did with Ororo :p
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[QUOTE=HeraldOfStorm;5381103]people may not like how Coates is doing with Storm's Godhood but at least they should give an chance if another writer wants to use this concept, after all, as it has already been said, it is still underdeveloped and personally I think a great addition to Storm and erasing this concept would be a loss of opportunities.
I don't care who writes about Ororo's divinity as long as it provides a good story.
PS: ow an official Marvel writer here, I hope Guggenheim, Bendis, Aaron and etc ... don't secretly read what we wrote about what they did with Ororo :p[/QUOTE]
I am quite certain that there is at least a few more official writers hiding in these forums.
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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5381151]I am quite certain that there is at least a few more official writers hiding in these forums.[/QUOTE]
I also think that would be some writers hidden here but I didn't think they would really manifest lol.
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I recall there being more writers on cbr but fans, as we know, can be pretty passionate and it can be off-putting to those who wish to interface more with the fandom.
that said, as long as criticisms are not disrespectful and are not personal I do not see issue with feedback. yes it may be hard to read for creators but this is something that is the nature of the beast. as much as we may not like how writers approach our faves we must all remember these are real people behind the comics we read and I try to be mindful of that whenever I offer my take on a story.
oan: i wonder if this image had any bearing to do with Coates making it 616 CANON she is a god? In before the storm she is seen in her xman outfit being worshiped as a goddess. its an indication that this prophecy occurred after she left Kenya and accepted xaviers offer to become an xman.. I cant help but think how these two images mirror each other:
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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5381075]Indeed, I believe that Storm will be natural in one of those, African Pantheons, there is plenty of white Pantheons, time for some black ones. African or South American one is a solid choice to explore and built.[/QUOTE]
absolutely!! plenty indeed! I will say I wish before Coates run ended he would have been able to elaborate more on the orishas but hoping that whomever follows him will look to expand upon the foundation he established.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5380992]@JWat
That would be like adding another log to a fire that's already burning out of control.
I don't understand the need or desire to make a character more "interesting?" by completely retconning their backstory. David Munroe was a normal human. N'Dare was a princess of an African tribe and also a normal human. Their daughter Ororo Munroe is a mutant who also comes from a long line of women who have wielded phenomenal powers.
Clean. Simple. And open to being explored in interesting ways and directions.
With regards to her God-hood...it really isn't that important or necessary. Because it's not the be-all and end-all of who, Storm as a character, IS.
I could understand why the people in her Kenyan village would think she was a Goddess and why she would believe that to be true, at the time, with them not knowing what a mutant is. Which is the meta point of the X-Men story. Xavier's (Claremont's) revelation speaks true to this day...she can do so much more for mutants and for humanity as a whole "just" as a mutant. Also, Claremont (through Storm) in XXM gives an explanation to the "God-hood" issue...every mutant does have the power to transcend beyond being human and being mutant, thereby becoming Gods. And Being an Omega-level she is already much closer to that transcendence, more so now than when she was Wind Rider of the Serengeti.[/QUOTE]
Everything is execution. We actually have no info on David Munroe other than he was a photojournalist but i can see an interesting background where his ability is what got him into photography and when he saw N Dare, his breath was take away. But i would never write or create a story to please anyone else so it's a good thing i'm not working on X-books etc. lol
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never really thought about it until now from this discussion but what if her x-gene was given to her from her father David? We know her mother is responsible for her mystical aspects but it could be possible her mutant abilities actually were passed on to her from her father.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5381509]never really thought about it until now from this discussion but what if her x-gene was given to her from her father David? We know her mother is responsible for her mystical aspects but it could be possible her mutant abilities actually were passed on to her from her father.[/QUOTE]
That would only work if they retcon the father into being a mutant and considering he is dead, I dont see the point of that. Mutants can be born from 2 baseline humans (in fact most are)
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[QUOTE=Havok83;5381538]That would only work if they retcon the father into being a mutant and considering he is dead, I dont see the point of that. Mutants can be born from 2 baseline humans (in fact most are)[/QUOTE]
I was thinking it being more like a latent X-gene thing and yes of course it could be from 2 baseline humans but it would be a means to further develop her family outside of being just an xman.
that said, I don't think it would be a necessary thing by any means but would be interesting if his lineage was explored beyond what we currently know.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5381509]never really thought about it until now from this discussion but what if her x-gene was given to her from her father David? We know her mother is responsible for her mystical aspects but it could be possible her mutant abilities actually were passed on to her from her father.[/QUOTE]
That would be great. Then they can finally make her younger cousin David a mutant. His mother, Storm aunt apparently died drug use. Maybe Storm aunt was the one hiding her X-gene. Maybe living under her older brother shadow was already too much for her and being a mutant some how made it worse in her eyes. Icing on the cake further proof something was wrong with her. Which would be tragic cause The Munroe's Look very accepting.
Maybe she got addicted trying to suppress her mutant powers
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5382086]That would be great. Then they can finally make her younger cousin David a mutant. His mother, Storm aunt apparently died drug use. Maybe Storm aunt was the one hiding her X-gene. Maybe living under her older brother shadow was already too much for her and being a mutant some how made it worse in her eyes. Icing on the cake further proof something was wrong with her. Which would be tragic cause The Munroe's Look very accepting.
Maybe she got addicted trying to suppress her mutant powers[/QUOTE]
I also don't see a problem with expounding on a character we know nothing about. Kind of weird to say he is human like it's a fact when we know far less about him than we do moira. Also isn't there a whole book right now called xmen legends where they are doing just that. Expanding on the canon of other characters. i don't see why Storm can't benefit from that as well. I originally thought we were going to get hints of him in BP and the crew but we saw where that went.
Besides i'd much rather delve into the rich history of Storm and her family on both sides, there is A LOT of it untapped story there and printed stories of her ancestors. It seems the solution for some for Storm is always to take something away or create some alternate universe crap.
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What's so wrong with him being human, that it needs to be changed?
How will making David Munroe a latent mutant now (as he's been dead since...forever) add anything to Storm's story and character? How does it change anything about her personal story then, now, and going forward?
And if the idea is to make one of David's family members a mutant then you can just do so, without retconning David's history.
XM:L is using existing, living, relevant characters to expand the canon by filling the "gaps" of stories that have been told. That's very different to taking a dead character and adding to his history so as to add to another character's history.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5382353]What's so wrong with him being human, that it needs to be changed?
How will making David Munroe a latent mutant now (as he's been dead since...forever) add anything to Storm's story and character? How does it change anything about her personal story then, now, and going forward?
And if the idea is to make one of David's family members a mutant then you can just do so, without retconning David's history.
XM:L is using existing, living, relevant characters to expand the canon by filling the "gaps" of stories that have been told. That's very different to taking a dead character and adding to his history so as to add to another character's history.[/QUOTE]
Well for a starter if he was a latent mutant, he can be resurrected on Krakoa. I imagine that would be quite the shock for Ororo, but still a possible storyline. It will expand on her father's lineage, therefore, she might find that she has Aunts on her father side or perhaps Uncles, and also it will provide a deeper look into possible reasons for Ororo's mutant powers. I do get the idea, father mutant, mother priestess, combine the two and you get Weather manipulation. Just saying.
Furthermore, if I have to tap deeper into it, we can be introduced to enemies which held a grudge against Ororo's Father, which means more enemies for Storm to deal with and only her own enemies. Yep, I can see a lot of potential and storytelling if that is to happen.
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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5382380]Well for a starter if he was a latent mutant, he can be resurrected on Krakoa. I imagine that would be quite the shock for Ororo, but still a possible storyline. [B]It will expand on her father's lineage, therefore, she might find that she has Aunts on her father side or perhaps Uncles, and also it will provide a deeper look into possible reasons for Ororo's mutant powers.[/B] I do get the idea, father mutant, mother priestess, combine the two and you get Weather manipulation. Just saying.
Furthermore, if I have to tap deeper into it, [B]we can be introduced to enemies which held a grudge against Ororo's Father, which means more enemies for Storm to deal with and only her own enemies. Yep, I can see a lot of potential and storytelling if that is to happen.[/B][/QUOTE]
These can be accomplished without fundamentally changing someone who is dead.
If memory serves me there have already been some family connections introduced in an X-Men Annual and the BP books prior to her marriage to T'Challa so...A writer can simply expand on those.
How would Xavier have David's dna and mental/anima back-up when both he and N'Dare died when Storm was a toddler?
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Latent mutants aren't mutants. Technically everyone on Marvel earth has a latent x-gene from the Celestials. Even if David had been a mutant, he died long before Xavier developed even the earliest version of Cerebro, so he wouldn't have a backup.
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5382086]That would be great. Then they can finally make her younger cousin David a mutant. His mother, Storm aunt apparently died drug use. Maybe Storm aunt was the one hiding her X-gene. Maybe living under her older brother shadow was already too much for her and being a mutant some how made it worse in her eyes. Icing on the cake further proof something was wrong with her. Which would be tragic cause The Munroe's Look very accepting.
Maybe she got addicted trying to suppress her mutant powers[/QUOTE]
what issue was it that talked about her aunt dying from drug use?
and your post would be an intestesting set of events relating to her family!