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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754745]if it wasn't about Storm, what was it about? Because everything was connected to her, from the synopsis to the plot '--'[/QUOTE]
I think Subliminally was being as sarcastic as marvel was trying to be with their diversity pushes of the past.
Reused spandex, anyone? lol
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754743]it has been far too long. That is for sure. lol[/QUOTE]
Can you imagine if she had said that line again? "Am I not beautiful, Lord Doom?"
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754745]if it wasn't about Storm, what was it about? Because everything was connected to her, from the synopsis to the plot '--'[/QUOTE]
Haha, was just sarcasm!
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754746]This actually makes ALOT of sense. He does specifically say he took her mutant powers "but just in case." So what was he trying to do and what was the just in case about.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it didn't really click until I was told that Tarn can only manipulate mutant DNA. I assumed he could shake up the whole bag like Elixir. But it does sort of make you wonder if maaaaaaaaaybe Ewing was trying to drop a tiny seed.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754751]I think Subliminally was being as[B] sarcastic as marvel was trying to be with their diversity pushes of the past.[/B]
Reused spandex, anyone? lol[/QUOTE]
Yes.
And damn. It is too late in the night to be scalping people like this.
[QUOTE=Wolverine12;5754612]I have a question for the Storm thread. In the S.W.O.R.D. #8 review thread a few posters (or maybe just one) mentioned that when Tarn took away Storm's mutant abilities she should have used her goddess abilities. I know she is a goddess but I did not know she had abilities associated with that title/state. Would someone be kind enough to tell me how her goddess abilities differ from her mutant abilities please? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
So far all we know is it lets her power works on things they don't normally work on. And we also know there is a complete goddess in there somewhere that was awakened in shuri when she was under the influence of mushrooms, no faith required.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754758]So far all we know is it lets her power works on things they don't normally work on. And we also know there is a complete goddess in there somewhere that was awakened in shuri when she [B]was under the influence of mushrooms[/B], no faith required.[/QUOTE]
10/10 would not mind Storm needing Marvel weed to access a higher consciousness.
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5754754]Can you imagine if she had said that line again? "Am I not beautiful, Lord Doom?"
Haha, was just sarcasm!
Yeah it didn't really click until I was told that Tarn can only manipulate mutant DNA. I assumed he could shake up the whole bag like Elixir. But it does sort of make you wonder if maaaaaaaaaybe Ewing was trying to drop a tiny seed.[/QUOTE]
He is half mutant himself as well, i was just looking him up and his supposedly half amenthian mutant and half daemon so he would def have some inside info. And it also seems that yes, his powers do only work on mutants. It also now thinking about it, makes no sense that he would have only changed half of Storm if he could have just turned her completely into something that could not fight. Now i wonder if storm was testing herself more than we know.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754758]So far all we know is it lets her power works on things they don't normally work on. And we also know there is a complete goddess in there somewhere that was awakened in shuri when she was under the influence of mushrooms, no faith required.[/QUOTE]
like this? which issue of shuri?
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754767]He is half mutant himself as well, i was just looking him up and his supposedly half amenthian mutant and half daemon so he would def have some inside info. And it also seems that yes, his powers do only work on mutants. It also now thinking about it, makes no sense that he would have only changed half of Storm if he could have just turned her completely into something that could not fight. Now i wonder if storm was testing herself more than we know.[/QUOTE]
My shower thought has turned into a whole moment, I love it!
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754768]like this? which issue of shuri?[/QUOTE]
Shuri issue 9
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?133482-Ororo-Munroe-Storm-Appreciation-2020/page15[/url]
the second post on that page has the images.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754775]Shuri issue 9
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?133482-Ororo-Munroe-Storm-Appreciation-2020/page15[/url]
the second post on that page has the images.[/QUOTE]
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754744]I disagree here. In the sense that Tarn specifically says he turned off her mutant powers. Also beyond that it seems only mutants can challenge for the throne of Arrako so even if Storm did use goddess powers it would have been cheating.[/QUOTE]
he said DNA, not xgene. yes her mutant powers were stricken but in warping her overall DNA this very could affected others aspects of her abilities as it did with her physical body
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/KtXa8Eq4wyB9b9WUf2WNCStFpoKX4d-Vr-0toLeAk1oFybJ6ZYgwugDTLBCItr2lZ-xYXjoIDximGw_NSuTHV5p9lmzFGXK96iBcSmmrmikNvoIz9_DnN9eJL8-GUQQ2H2hykEHyVw=s1600[/img]
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5754738]That jump in sales had nothing to do with Storm though. Even though she was on the cover, was the main point in the synopsis, and preview. Storm had nothing to do with that boost. Delusional, I say. Delusional![/QUOTE]
exactly!!! it said sword so people picked it up because of the name of the book... obviously duh!!!!
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754734]could you send me the link to this page?[/QUOTE]
I got it from twitter but this link also aligns to that post:
[url]https://m.comixology.com/comics-best-sellers[/url]
note this is for the week.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754807]he said DNA, not xgene. yes her mutant powers were stricken but in warping her overall DNA this very could affected others aspects of her abilities as it did with her physical body
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/KtXa8Eq4wyB9b9WUf2WNCStFpoKX4d-Vr-0toLeAk1oFybJ6ZYgwugDTLBCItr2lZ-xYXjoIDximGw_NSuTHV5p9lmzFGXK96iBcSmmrmikNvoIz9_DnN9eJL8-GUQQ2H2hykEHyVw=s1600[/img][/QUOTE]
As previously stated, Tarn's powers only work on mutant powers so he could not take something that was not a mutant power. The Storm's "and more."
[URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tarn_(Locus_Vile)_(Earth-616)"]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tarn_(Locus_Vile)_(Earth-616)[/URL]
Powers and Abilities
Powers
Being an Omega-level Amenthian mutant/daemon hybrid with magic powers, Tarn the Uncaring possesses:[2][3]
Telepathy: Tarn is able to read the minds of individuals, although this causes pain to said individual.
Teleportation: Tarn is able to teleport individuals through magic.
Biological Manipulation: Tarn is able to manipulate the genes of mutants.
Telekinesis: Tarn was able to tear apart the Mister Sinister clone with his mind.
And so far tarn has not used his abilities on non mutants that we have seen so it's true so far.
Also in the pic you provided he specifically elaborated he disarmed her mutant gift.
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754804]Thanks!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
no problem. ^_^
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754812]exactly!!! it said sword so people picked it up because of the name of the book... obviously duh!!!!
I got it from twitter but this link also aligns to that post:
[url]https://m.comixology.com/comics-best-sellers[/url]
note this is for the week.[/QUOTE]
Thanks!!!!
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754813]As previously stated, Tarn's powers only work on mutant powers so he could not take something that was not a mutant power. The Storm's "and more."
[URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tarn_(Locus_Vile)_(Earth-616)"]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tarn_(Locus_Vile)_(Earth-616)[/URL]
Powers and Abilities
Powers
Being an Omega-level Amenthian mutant/daemon hybrid with magic powers, Tarn the Uncaring possesses:[2][3]
Telepathy: Tarn is able to read the minds of individuals, although this causes pain to said individual.
Teleportation: Tarn is able to teleport individuals through magic.
Biological Manipulation: Tarn is able to manipulate the genes of mutants.
Telekinesis: Tarn was able to tear apart the Mister Sinister clone with his mind.
And so far tarn has not used his abilities on non mutants that we have seen so it's true so far.
no problem. ^_^[/QUOTE]
thanks for the link but you know me well enough now. marvel wikis are not canon. where in 616 does it say his manipulation of biological content is limited to just mutants? he is new to the main marvel universe and thus has not encountered anyone other than mutants with the exception of storm (who is bot mutant and god). his manipulation of sorts was based upon the alteration of her DNA; again not just her xgene. that would encompass the entirety of her her genetics which would include her divine portion of it.
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754820]Thanks!!!![/QUOTE]
you're welcome!
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754821]thanks for the link but you know me well enough now. marvel wikis are not canon. where in 616 does it say his manipulation of biological content is limited to just mutants? he is new to the main marvel universe and thus has not encountered anyone other than mutants with the exception of storm (who is bot mutant and god). his manipulation of sorts was based upon the alteration of her DNA; again not just her xgene. that would encompass the entirety of her her genetics which would include her divine portion of it.[/QUOTE]
Hey we are all free to believe what we want. You see it that way i see it another, Ewing will let us know in time. ^_^, So far he has not been able to turn a non mutant so i'll believe it when i see that.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754824]Hey we are all free to believe what we want. You see it that way i see it another, Ewing will let us know in time. ^_^, So far he has not been able to turn a non mutant so i'll believe it when i see that.[/QUOTE]
when has tarn fought a non-mutant though? that is what makes that wiki flawed. it makes a statement as if he can only affect mutants but thst would be like if someone were to say Emma can only read mutant minds because she had only done this to mutants at one point. thst doesn't really make sense.
Do you believe that Tarn could interfere with Ororo's mystical powers? I think if he could do that, he would be very powerful, to the point of manipulating the biology of gods like thor, odin and etc...
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754826]when has tarn fought a non-mutant though?[/QUOTE]
doesn't matter so far he can only change mutants, that may be because he has only fought that but that history has more backing than assuming he can change the dna of anyone. IF that was the case he should have been ended that war in amenth or done more than police mutant prisoners.
I did find this though which once again everything says mutations and then changing those mutations.
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So nothing about DNA or complete DNA at all. It keeps mentioning mutation.
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754827]Do you believe that Tarn could interfere with Ororo's mystical powers? I think if he could do that, he would be very powerful, to the point of manipulating the biology of gods like thor, odin and etc...[/QUOTE]
oh yea I absolutely do. to suggest he is only limited to manipulating mutants or mutants' biological matter would mean his abilities have a quantifiable limit. he wouldn't be able to affect the biological matter of any other beings (ir., skrull, kree, humans with magical abilities such as strange, and deities like thor), which would contradict the definition of what makes an omega an omega.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754829]doesn't matter so far he can only change mutants, that may be because he has only fought that but that history has more backing than assuming he can change the dna of anyone. IF that was the case he should have been ended that war in amenth or done more than police mutant prisoners.[/QUOTE]
I find it very hard to believe if tarn encountered a baseline human he would helpless and unable to modify their biological matter in any way. im pretty sure that is not what the creators at marvel intended especially considering he is an omega mutant.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754838]I did find this though which once again everything says mutations and then changing those mutations.
[IMG]https://1ubwrk3kszih3tkfscap35a9-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Hel*******6-C.jpg[/IMG]
So nothing about DNA or complete DNA at all. It keeps mentioning mutation.[/QUOTE]
your image isn't working
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754840]oh yea I absolutely do. to suggest he is only limited to manipulating mutants or mutants' biological matter would mean his abilities have a quantifiable limit. he wouldn't be able to affect the biological matter of any other being, which would contradict the definition of what makes an omega an omega.[/QUOTE]
No it wouldn't. his mutant power is still omega because he can change mutants in an undefinable way just like storm manipulated weather in an undefinable way that can't be measured.
edit: i fixed it but will just add here too.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5754838]I did find this though which once again everything says mutations and then changing those mutations.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]114246[/ATTACH]
So nothing about DNA or complete DNA at all. It keeps mentioning mutation.[/QUOTE]
it says the helix, which is referring to DNA and not just the xgene, bends to his will. that statement is not limiting him to just mutants my friend.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754844]it says the helix, which is referring to DNA and not just the xgene, bends to his will. that statement is not limiting him to just mutants my friend.[/QUOTE]
lol okay. We shall see. I am putting this date in the back of my mind. lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754725]yall sword book is number 2 for internet sales above justice league, Wolverine and thor. Marvel give her a damn solo:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAj8gM8XEAUriQd?format=png&name=small[/img][/QUOTE]
Didn't we see the same for previous sword issue only for monthly sales to reflect poorly?
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5754738]That jump in sales had nothing to do with Storm though. Even though she was on the cover, was the main point in the synopsis, and preview. Storm had nothing to do with that boost. Delusional, I say. Delusional![/QUOTE]
Yh I concur it was someother charachter not storm yes another charachter who wasn't in the book.
[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5754745]if it wasn't about Storm, what was it about? Because everything was connected to her, from the synopsis to the plot '--'[/QUOTE]
They are being sacarsitic
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754746]This actually makes ALOT of sense. He does specifically say he took her mutant powers "but just in case." So what was he trying to do and what was the just in case about.[/QUOTE]
Y'all there is something there deep deep in storm and it's going to come out. I have reason to believe this thing is more than we even anticipated cause if tarn of all people looked actually worried then you know it's beyond serious.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754807]he said DNA, not xgene. yes her mutant powers were stricken but in warping her overall DNA this very could affected others aspects of her abilities as it did with her physical body
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/KtXa8Eq4wyB9b9WUf2WNCStFpoKX4d-Vr-0toLeAk1oFybJ6ZYgwugDTLBCItr2lZ-xYXjoIDximGw_NSuTHV5p9lmzFGXK96iBcSmmrmikNvoIz9_DnN9eJL8-GUQQ2H2hykEHyVw=s1600[/img][/QUOTE]
Yh but her divinity is not genetic.... Selene did say that the difference between a god a mutant is their soul, a god has like a million times more weight than a mutant.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754829]doesn't matter so far he can only change mutants, that may be because he has only fought that but that history has more backing than assuming he can change the dna of anyone. IF that was the case he should have been ended that war in amenth or done more than police mutant prisoners.[/QUOTE]
Yh but cannon said DNA not xgene. He further manipulates it after he rewrites her powers away. Until he meets humans or other non mutants and can't manipulate their gene then we can conclude this
[QUOTE=jwatson;5754845]lol okay. We shall see. I am putting this date in the back of my mind. lol[/QUOTE]
lol bet.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5754950]Didn't we see the same for previous sword issue only for monthly sales to reflect poorly?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure aviary that but this us just weekly sales. it could certainly go down the next couple of weeks.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5754958]Yh but her divinity is not genetic.... Selene did say that the difference between a god a mutant is their soul, a god has like a million times more weight than a mutant.[/QUOTE]
it it is a soul thing then perhaps but I thought her mystical/divine heritage was something passed down to her through her ancestors which would indicate it is her bloodiest and birthright that grants her divinity.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754997]lol bet.
I'm not sure aviary that but this us just weekly sales. it could certainly go down the next couple of weeks.
it it is a soul thing then perhaps but I thought her mystical/divine heritage was something passed down to her through her ancestors which would indicate it is her bloodiest and birthright that grants her divinity.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing though I don't think it's in the blood cause if it were xavier would have detected it and would not have told her for years she is not a god. I believe it's an inheritance of the spirit with certain genetic markers indicating that one has said potential i.e the white hair and blue eyes.
It's something much deeper and greater than any mutantion even an omega one and if tarn is correct something possibly much stranger than even divinity. Her ancestor did something in amneth that changed her bloodline forever and this has been made fully manifest in ororo in ways that possibly transcend all of her ancestors.
But my view on her possible relation to this is speculation as it could be that tarn said she is of amneth because of how ruthless she can be.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754997]lol bet.
I'm not sure aviary that but this us just weekly sales. it could certainly go down the next couple of weeks.
it it is a soul thing then perhaps but I thought her mystical/divine heritage was something passed down to her through her ancestors which would indicate it is her bloodiest and birthright that grants her divinity.[/QUOTE]
One thing i will add though cause i thought about it while drawing since i got like no sleep. In the middle i just thought. 'well hope is an omega and it has been said many times her powers only work on mutants."
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5754950]Didn't we see the same for previous sword issue only for monthly sales to reflect poorly?[/QUOTE]
Those are the weekly digital comic sales on Comixology.
The monthly sales are for the floppy comic sales via Diamond and are something else entirely.
Generally the digital sales are just a small percentage of the floppy sales.
The X-Men comics generally do quite well in digital sales, far better than in the corresponding floppy sales. Marauders, X-Force and Excalibur also usually appear in the top.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5755044]That's the thing though I don't think it's in the blood cause if it were xavier would have detected it and would not have told her for years she is not a god. I believe it's an inheritance of the spirit with certain genetic markers indicating that one has said potential i.e the white hair and blue eyes.
It's something much deeper and greater than any mutantion even an omega one and if tarn is correct something possibly much stranger than even divinity. Her ancestor did something in amneth that changed her bloodline forever and this has been made fully manifest in ororo in ways that possibly transcend all of her ancestors.
But my view on her possible relation to this is speculation as it could be that tarn said she is of amneth because of how ruthless she can be.[/QUOTE]
Annihilation Strom great great great grand daddy amdy one of storms sorecess ancestors was betrayed by him and she sealed him in that helmet with the help of osthur.
So many possibilities.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5755063]Annihilation Strom great great great grand daddy amdy one of storms sorecess ancestors was betrayed by him and she sealed him in that helmet with the help of osthur.
So many possibilities.[/QUOTE]
Ikr infinite possibilities like they could have had great mystic potential only at first from osthur but later after they went to amneth they bred with eldritch beings or gods which made that potential an apotheosis of mystic power hence the godhead. Sooo many possibilities.
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We see Tarn astonishment puff along with his questioning. An arakki would not be so surprised if it were a small thing.
Tarn feared the Storm, Al Ewing is preparing something really cool for her, I just don't know where this plot of hers involving Amenth issues will be approached since SWORD only goes until issue #11
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5754807]he said DNA, not xgene. yes her mutant powers were stricken but in warping her overall DNA this very could affected others aspects of her abilities as it did with her physical body
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/KtXa8Eq4wyB9b9WUf2WNCStFpoKX4d-Vr-0toLeAk1oFybJ6ZYgwugDTLBCItr2lZ-xYXjoIDximGw_NSuTHV5p9lmzFGXK96iBcSmmrmikNvoIz9_DnN9eJL8-GUQQ2H2hykEHyVw=s1600[/img][/QUOTE]
Eww who is the artist cause babaaaaaaay! Storm with that wide ass mouth and hard face...i can't