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[QUOTE=jwatson;5375927]And the church says amen. Why should black love be defined as any less than white love. We court, we date, we hang out for a long time before marriage. I mean come on, if Reed didn't see sue in 20 years real time as a romantic interest and then they got married after less than a year i just can't imagine white people being like "yaaaaaaaaaaaaaassss white love!"[/QUOTE]
This just TOOK ME OUT
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5377525]are you referring to Meruda?[/QUOTE]
Yep, and here is something from an issue Amazing X-Men Issue 12 (2014), Storm as a Goddess:
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She was turned into a Goddess by the Great Gods in the Spirit World, in this issue to fight another God. As well and Rockslide, Firestar and Iceman.
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5377616]Yep, and here is something from an issue Amazing X-Men Issue 12 (2014), Storm as a Goddess:
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She was turned into a Goddess by the Great Gods in the Spirit World, in this issue to fight another God. As well and Rockslide, Firestar and Iceman.[/QUOTE]
oh I recall that issue. It would be very nice to see ororo finally transcend to an elemental being at some point.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5377757]Marvel Strike Force the Power of Love!!!
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Thanks for posting. I needed this in my life.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5378142]Thanks for posting. I needed this in my life.[/QUOTE]
Shiz it was written so care fee of history my a$$ felt like i needed it too for a second.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5378142]Thanks for posting. I needed this in my life.[/QUOTE]
you welcome and me too boo! these developers know exactly what we want.
t'choro for life honey!!!
[QUOTE=jwatson;5378171]Shiz it was written so care fee of history my a$$ felt like i needed it too for a second.[/QUOTE]
It is not that serious Brodie, just let it be jeeeeeezzzzz
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5376061]They actually did, exactly that. Let's not forget Crystal is a pure copy of Storm's powers just with all elements.
[COLOR="#A9A9A9"]Putting aside the above, I was thinking about Storm Godhood and something flicked in my mind. Storm represents both Gaia and Typhon, the Primordial Deities of Earth and Storms. I wonder... if her bloodline sprout from them. I mean Typhon was the god of the storm, and Gaia has the same Empathic link with Earth, she is the Earth itself, so Storm Empathic capabilities may come from Gaia, while her weather manipulation powers come from Typhon. Just a theory I had in mind.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
How did you come to the conclusion that Crystal's powerset is a [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]pure copy[/COLOR][/B] of Storm's powerset [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](give or take an element or two)[/COLOR] when Crystal's first appearance was in [B][U][URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_45"]Fantastic Four #45 (December 1965)[/URL][/U][/B] and Ororo's First Appearance was in [B][U][URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Giant-Size_X-Men_Vol_1_1"]Giant-Size X-Men #1 (May 1975)[/URL][/U]?[/B]
[QUOTE=Micabe;5379300]How did you come to the conclusion that Crystal's powerset is a [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]pure copy[/COLOR][/B] of Storm's powerset [COLOR="#A9A9A9"](give or take an element or two)[/COLOR] when Crystal's first appearance was in [B][U][URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_45"]Fantastic Four #45 (December 1965)[/URL][/U][/B] and Ororo's First Appearance was in [B][U][URL="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Giant-Size_X-Men_Vol_1_1"]Giant-Size X-Men #1 (May 1975)[/URL][/U]?[/B][/QUOTE]
I tried to avoid the similar power part as though they both control elements aside from that their powers are completely different. Crystal controls the direct elements as they exist and can play around with those to create certain weather phenom but Storm controls the very fundamentals of nature that governs those. In that sense Storm is the egg to crystals chicken.
[QUOTE=Mekk80s;5379245]It is not that serious Brodie, just let it be jeeeeeezzzzz[/QUOTE]
are you from america? I'm only wondering because your slang is weird to me.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5377671]oh I recall that issue. It would be very nice to see ororo finally transcend to an elemental being at some point.[/QUOTE]
but what element would she be since she literally controls about all of them? Wind, Water, Ice, Lightning, etc
[QUOTE=metalclouds;5379673]but what element would she be since she literally controls about all of them? Wind, Water, Ice, Lightning, etc[/QUOTE]
I think it should be like an amalgamation of them but how she was depicted during that alternate future when it was revealed she became a true elemental would work too:
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I didn't really care for BP: KiB.
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That's fair and I'm truly sorry it didn't do it for you.
[quote]There were some nice parts but considering the writer has made known publicly his thoughts on topics particularly the xmen it made some of writing hard to read. [/Quote]
the writer loves the X men and owns nearly 100% of the X product that's ever been produced.
[quote]1. The interactions between the characters seemed very rigid and almost impersonal at times. It would make sense to see lower ranking members of the nation so reverent as they were towards tchalla but the way oyoye and shuri were seemed OOC.[/quote]
This wasn't a family reunion. This was saving the country from absolute destruction. No time to sit around and be casual. Also, he's just come from watching the love of his life be taken by a God that is also killing or absorbing his allies. He's FIGHTING to stay focused and save his people because the grief over Ororo's loss is nearly overwhelming.
[quote]2. Thorne has made pretty clear he doesn't like the xmem, which is fine, but why then do you feel the need to incorporate elements of its lore to make the point of how formidable Wakanda is. So Wakanda has an entity meant to defeat the Phoenix yet it didn't appear during AvX nor did it appear in Aaron's current Phoenix story? Yea no that doesn't ring true at all especially considering the writer's opinion on the xmen [/quote]
This is false. I love the X-men. I've never said otherwise because that would be a lie.
[quote]3. The issue in and of itself seemed to wrap up too nicely in a way that doesn't coincide with any of the other tie-ins. The Knull has engulfed the entire earth, has killed sentry conquered celestial yet wakanda could easily clear the atmosphere without the knull god sensing this and not immediately going to investigate this threat to his assault on earth?[/quote]
we weren't asked to link-up with the other tie-ins and usually, no tie-in books are required to do so. And i wouldn't describe the Wakandan "victory" over Knull (he never actually arrives in Wakanda personally) as "easy."
[quote]4. Lastly, storm's inclusion made absolutely no sense. it was clear she was there only to shade her. [/quote]
Nope. She was there to show how AWFUL her loss was to T'Challa and how it weighed on him. That loss took place in the main KiB book (already scripted before I was even on the project).
It's absolutely okay not to like my stories but you do have to tell the truth about them. Otherwise it's not fair.
I have nothing against Ororo at all and definitely nothing against the X-Men or mutants.
Hi Mr. Redjack! Thank you for your response! I appreciate you taking the time to reply!
[QUOTE=Redjack;5379893]That's fair and I'm truly sorry it didn't do it for you.[/quote]
There is no need to apologize. Everything is not for everyone but I appreciate you taking this criticism in a constructive manner.
[QUOTE=Redjack;5379893]This wasn't a family reunion. This was saving the country from absolute destruction. No time to sit around and be casual. Also, he's just come from watching the love of his life be taken by a God that is also killing or absorbing his allies. He's FIGHTING to stay focused and save his people because the grief over Ororo's loss is nearly overwhelming.[/quote]
Of course it was not a family reunion but these characters (T'challa, Shuri, Okoye) aren't solely soldiers whose common tie is the battlefield. To your point about watching Ororo being overtaken by Knull maybe it was the artistic rendering but it wasn't clear that he witnessed it; however, taking your insight on this into account his response that she was a no longer a factor did not seem to convey this event was overwhelming to him,, let alone there was any love between them at all honestly.
[QUOTE=Redjack;5379893]This is false. I love the X-men. I've never said otherwise because that would be a lie.[/quote]
If you claim you love the xmen i certainly cannot and will not argue that but I do not have any reason to lie. When you make posts on twitter saying Wanda was right then to quote "no more mutants" opinions such as these do not give off the impression you love the xmen since that event was arguably the most devastating thing to happen to the xmen. I do not think most would conclude based upon this sentiment one who felt as such love the xmen.
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[QUOTE=Redjack;5379893]we weren't asked to link-up with the other tie-ins and usually, no tie-in books are required to do so. And i wouldn't describe the Wakandan "victory" over Knull (he never actually arrives in Wakanda personally) as "easy."[/quote]
My point was not to infer that the event had to refer to other tie-ins. The knull god has defeated the celestials, engulfed the entirety of the planet with symbiotic darkness, and defeated the mightiest heroes on the planet yet Wakanda was able to defeat his knull army and rid wakanda from the portion of the planet covered by Knull without alerting and then feeling the ire of the knull god himself? It just seemed to wrap up too nicely imho.
[QUOTE=Redjack;5379893]Nope. She was there to show how AWFUL her loss was to T'Challa and how it weighed on him. That loss took place in the main KiB book (already scripted before I was even on the project).
It's absolutely okay not to like my stories but you do have to tell the truth about them. Otherwise it's not fair.
I have nothing against Ororo at all and definitely nothing against the X-Men or mutants.[/quote]
In what way was it indicated in the story her loss was awful and weighed heavily on him? After she is engulfed he said she was a no longer a factor. Showing flashbacks to her defeat for me isn't an effective tool to show this is weighing hard on him, especially when he concludes she is no longer a factor as coldly as he did.. Maybe it was the choice of words but i didn't get the impression this was hard on him in the slightest. For me it came across as an inconsequential footnote. Its hard to imagine anyone seeing their partner potentially killed having such a cold response
Lastly, I do not make claims that I cannot support through objective evidence. Maybe my interpretation of posts you made about Storm on CBR in particular may be incorrect but my assessment on your feelings regarding her and the xmen are taken from your words. When you've expressed as it relates to Storm in regards to her solo,
[i][COLOR="#0000FF"]WHY am i reading the Storm story, separate from the fact that she's an X Man? Why do I care what she wants or what happens to her?
out of the context of her as a supporting character, I don't. I would REALLY like to but, aside from being the black chick on the team with some fairly powerful abilities, I just don't care.[/COLOR][/i]
That speaks volumes to me as a fan who in fact loves the character. I dont expect everyone to love storm or even like her but i honestly do not expect anyone who likes a character to make those kinds of posts but that is just me. Now about Claremont you described her as being:
[i][COLOR="#0000FF"]In Claremont's hands she was little more than a fetish object (something nearly all his female characters were at one time or another).[/COLOR][/i]
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?31403-The-Mission-THE-COLOR-BARRIER-The-Life-and-Death-of-Marvel-s-X-Goddess-Storm/page8[/url]
Its hard to imagine anyone liking Storm when they express such feelings regarding the version that initially catapulted her to popularity.
All in all, I get it that over the years Ororo has not been showcased often embracing aspects of her character beyond being a mutant (I've expressed similar feelings on this forum) but that isn't the character's fault and is more an issue with the lack of diversity at Marvel, and specifically the xoffices. Nonetheless, these are statements you've made which makes it extremely hard for me to conclude that one likes a character or the team she is on when I read said statements such as the aforementioned but let's be clear I'm not saying or attributing feelings onto you out of thin air; I'm literally making these conclusions based upon your own words (which doesn't even include the ones I've read over in the BP thread).