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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870040]Remember they said countless generations to come and yes they are long lived. Plus the one defining proof that it is a star is because only a star has the energy necessary enough to drive weather patterns. We were discussing this some days ago here, but basically weather happens due to one thing heat interacting with the atmosphere. The sinking and falling of hot and cold air literally produces all forms of weather phenomena from thunderstorms to hurricanes. When there is an increase in ocean temperatures hurricanes are formed. Creating an atmosphere but with no sun would spell doom as when storm left there would be no rain as heat is needed for the water cycle. Infact the only other way to get heat is from the interior of the earth and seeing as plants were growing I assume that the surface of the planet is hospitable to grass and not scorching from geothermal heat.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point, one more proof that Storm only needs her omega mutation to have a stellar power level, since we're talking about science, so for the weather to be favorable she needs the strength of a star, however small.
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870025]Errrhm ohk[/QUOTE]
XDDD lmbo!
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5869775]Storm basically did what a light bulb does.
Summary
Let’s look at the key concepts:
Electron energy levels are quantized. This means the electron can only have certain values of energy.
When an electron moves from a higher to lower energy level light is produced.
The frequency (and thus wavelength and color) of this light depends on the change in energy level.
For LED, this electron energy transition happens because of an energy gap in a semiconductor material.
In a fluorescent bulb, electrons transition energy levels in a gas. Also, some of the light produced is in the ultraviolet range. This light is converted to visible light through fluorescene.
An incandescent bulb creates light by making a hot filament. In a solid, there are many different energy levels in order to produce all possible colors of light.
Fire is just like a filament except that it’s not a filament. Instead, the light mostly comes from hot pieces of material that did not get burned.
[URL="https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/"]https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/[/URL]
fluo·res·cence
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noun
noun: fluorescence
the visible or invisible radiation emitted by certain substances as a result of incident radiation of a shorter wavelength such as X-rays or ultraviolet light.
the property of absorbing light of short wavelength and emitting light of longer wavelength.[/QUOTE]
I dont agree with the analysis this was a light bulb. One, plants grow best under natural or sunlight, which light bulbs are not. The skrull crops would need sunlight to grow optimally. Second, how is this light being generated? Is it from gas being ignited some electrical source? Storm said this light would last for all the skrull days so my question here is how did ororo generate this light source and what is sustaining it allowing it to emit energy once she left? If one pays attention to the last panel in the issue of the planet the light source looks very similar to a sun.
That said, if one were to conclude its just light it would have to mimic the properties of the sun. Moreover, if it is just light what exactly is producing the light if it is not akin to a star that forms by way of burning gases? Lastly, the fact she created an atmosphere from nothing in itself already is op because that is not how her mutant powers operate. If one has issue with her creating a sun then the entire book should have been an issue. Also Storm has never been able to generate light unless it was in the form of lightning so even doing this is OP if we are to approach this issue with such a perspective.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5869775]Storm basically did what a light bulb does.
Summary
Let’s look at the key concepts:
Electron energy levels are quantized. This means the electron can only have certain values of energy.
When an electron moves from a higher to lower energy level light is produced.
The frequency (and thus wavelength and color) of this light depends on the change in energy level.
For LED, this electron energy transition happens because of an energy gap in a semiconductor material.
In a fluorescent bulb, electrons transition energy levels in a gas. Also, some of the light produced is in the ultraviolet range. This light is converted to visible light through fluorescene.
An incandescent bulb creates light by making a hot filament. In a solid, there are many different energy levels in order to produce all possible colors of light.
Fire is just like a filament except that it’s not a filament. Instead, the light mostly comes from hot pieces of material that did not get burned.
[URL="https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/"]https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/[/URL]
fluo·res·cence
/flo͝o(ə)ˈresəns,flôrˈesəns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: fluorescence
the visible or invisible radiation emitted by certain substances as a result of incident radiation of a shorter wavelength such as X-rays or ultraviolet light.
the property of absorbing light of short wavelength and emitting light of longer wavelength.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=jwatson;5870009]it had to be a star. i was more thinking the basis of electrons but it definitely has to be a star ( i know you were referring to meta with this post) How else will it provide light for generations to come and aren't skrull long lived?[/QUOTE]
ok you answered my qurstuon here lol. this is my same thought regarding the feat. if its not a sun it has to be sun-like.
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[QUOTE=The Regent;5870126]XDDD lmbo![/QUOTE]
I don't have energy to argue, like at all.
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870147]I don't have energy to argue, like at all.
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lolol not 1 + 1= 5 lolol
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5870089]I'm really happy, our girl is now showing a level of power she always had, being treated like other powerful Marvel characters.
Uh but still, in order to have to create a star, whether it's small or not, Storm would have to control a small degree of gravity, even more so to get it positioned closer to the planet. Now I want to see that she doesn't have gravity manipulation, and of course I know she's not as powerful as Northstar is, but still, she has a manipulation and she had to use it![/QUOTE]
Definitely she has a degree, we would need more feats but this basically established she has control over the very fundamental forces that govern weather. And like we say it is all them.
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870147]I don't have energy to argue, like at all.
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Between this type of attitude and the ignore function, your time on CBR can be nothing but laughs and comradery! This is the energy we're aiming for in 2022.
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5870152]Between this type of attitude and the ignore function, your time on CBR can be nothing but laughs and comradery! This is the energy we're aiming for in 2022.[/QUOTE]
absolutely. I love this!!
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5870152]Between this type of attitude and the ignore function, your time on CBR can be nothing but laughs and comradery! This is the energy we're aiming for in 2022.[/QUOTE]
Ignore function? Oh you are opening my Eyes. Please tell me more of this wonder.
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Has anyone asked the writer on Twitter if it was a mini sun or not?
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[QUOTE=The Regent;5870192]Has anyone asked the writer on Twitter if it was a mini sun or not?[/QUOTE]
She liked comments stating storm created a star.
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870161]Ignore function? Oh you are opening my Eyes. Please tell me more of this wonder.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes! You go to the person's profile and under their name you hit "add to ignore list". And while you're logged in anytime that person post this is what you'll see.
[url]https://i.imgur.com/RoGFdnd.png[/url]
And I just used you for an example. :p
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5870210]Oh yes! You go to the person's profile and under their name you hit "add to ignore list". And while you're logged in anytime that person post this is what you'll see.
[url]https://i.imgur.com/RoGFdnd.png[/url]
And I just used you for an example. :p[/QUOTE]
Oh ohk thanks! This would be in use alot by me lol!
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I don’t think she made a sun just a globe of light
The sun has luminosity but it also has plasma, gravity, nuclear fission and more.
I don’t think that ball of light had that. In fact it would look similar to the miniature sun Father created in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870208]She liked comments stating storm created a star.[/QUOTE]
Well that pretty much confirms it for me... at the end of the day Storm is an energy manipulator and when taping into divinity an energy creator.
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870208]She liked comments stating storm created a star.[/QUOTE]
This makes sense given her galactic core feat.
Sis is now a Star-mother.
She is the life goddess.
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[QUOTE=The Regent;5870230]Well that pretty much confirms it for me... at the end of the day Storm is an energy manipulator and when taping into divinity an energy creator.[/QUOTE]
Yes the arakkii are in good hands with her.
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[QUOTE=The Regent;5870230]Well that pretty much confirms it for me... at the end of the day Storm is an energy manipulator and when taping into divinity an energy creator.[/QUOTE]
a ball of light is not going to create heat energy necessary to fuel a living planet so its good to see she basically confirming this by liking that tweet.
I know there are some who are reluctant to believe she created a star aka sun because it seemingly goes beyond what she can do canonically and i don't blame you.. when all you get is krakoom and lightning and more lightning and then a rain shower here or there what erica did in this story can seem way over the top and fans who suggest the same can come across as doing the most too.
However I implore you who think as such to not forget what her powers allow her to ultimately do. she controls energies and forces that result in weather phenomena and NOT JUST WEATHER. since the energies in weather can be found essentially everywhere this allows her to perform abilities beyond just weather manipulation. the writer took it one step further with the weather goddess aspect by showing her create from nothing energies required to sustain weather (atmosphere and sun light source). Remember her mutant powers DOES NOT allow for her to create weather from area that does not already exist (this indicates there was more than her mutant abilities at work). if we as fans begin to really look at how her powers function as a goddess and as an omega none of what happened in the power of light story should be shocking.
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[QUOTE=Stormultt Divine;5870237]This makes sense given her galactic core feat.
Sis is now a Star-mother.
She is the life goddess.[/QUOTE]
Queen of the Celestial firmament
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5870289]a ball of light is not going to create heat energy necessary to fuel a living planet so its good to see she basically confirming this by liking that tweet.
I know there are some who are reluctant to believe she create a star aka sun because it seemingly beyond what she can do but let's not forget what her powers allow her to ultimately do. she controls energies and forces that result in weather phenomena. the writer took it one step further with the weather goddess aspect which is to create from.nothing energies required to sustain weather, which you can't truly have without a living star. if we as fans begin to really look at how her powers function as a goddess and as an omega none of what happened in the powe of light story should be shocking.[/QUOTE]
I did say that the sheer implication of this is very staggering, creating a hand held sun is a FEAT! Weather others believe she did so or not doesn't matter because in the end she did what she did. I am still waiting for why knull said she was more powerful than all his avatars. Hope we get that in destiny of x
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5870289]a ball of light is not going to create heat energy necessary to fuel a living planet so its good to see she basically confirming this by liking that tweet.
I know there are some who are reluctant to believe she created a star aka sun because it seemingly goes beyond what she can do canonically and i don't blame you.. when all you get is krakoom and lightning and more lightning and then a rain shower here or there what erica did in this story can seem way over the top and fans who suggest the same do too.
However I implore you who think as such to not forget what her powers allow her to ultimately do. she controls energies and forces that result in weather phenomena. the writer took it one step further with the weather goddess aspect which is to create from.nothing energies required to sustain weather, which you can't truly have without a living star. if we as fans begin to really look at how her powers function as a goddess and as an omega none of what happened in the powe of light story should be shocking.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/srg19CG0cKMuI/giphy.gif[/IMG]
I really hope this is the beginning of Storm branching out into more energy manipulation feats and not just strictly 'weather' feats. Hoping Mr. Ewing is paying attention! Erica came out of NOWHERE and gave us a Storm that Marvel's regular writers couldn't do in decades.
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[QUOTE=Stormultt Divine;5870237]This makes sense given her galactic core feat.
Sis is now a Star-mother.
She is the life goddess.[/QUOTE]
yasssssss i love this!!!!
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I really hope this is the beginning of Storm branching out into more energy manipulation feats and not just strictly 'weather' feats. Hoping Mr. Ewing is paying attention! Erica came out of NOWHERE and gave us a Storm that Marvel's regular writers couldn't do in decades.[/QUOTE]
Erica came and ate the entire competition. Like unprovoked too. I mean Wooow!
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870297]I did say that the sheer implication of this is very staggering, creating a hand held sun is a FEAT! Weather others believe she did so or not doesn't matter because in the end she did what she did. I am still waiting for why knull said she was more powerful than all his avatars. Hope we get that in destiny of x[/QUOTE]
right. again I can understand some of the fandom thinking it was too much but if you can accept her creating an atmosphere from nothing than why not her creating a sun? Both are beyond what she can do as a mutant.
That said, I'm curious too why Knull mentioned Storm was his most powerful avatar. he possessed not only thor, hulk, a couple of the f4 members but also the celestials. I think marvel is leading us down a path of her full potential finally being realized and seeing how random the power of light story hit us im anxiously and cautiously waiting to see where it all leads.
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I really hope this is the beginning of Storm branching out into more energy manipulation feats and not just strictly 'weather' feats. Hoping Mr. Ewing is paying attention! Erica came out of NOWHERE and gave us a Storm that Marvel's regular writers couldn't do in decades.[/QUOTE]
Yea Im sorry but Erica ate this. I love Ewing and what he has done for storm was great but I need Ewing to bring this type of energy erica did in xmen red. If showings like this become common for storm casual readers and fans alike will not be so "omg storm cant do that" when she performs high-end feats.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5870289]a ball of light is not going to create heat energy necessary to fuel a living planet so its good to see she basically confirming this by liking that tweet.
I know there are some who are reluctant to believe she created a star aka sun because it seemingly goes beyond what she can do canonically and i don't blame you.. when all you get is krakoom and lightning and more lightning and then a rain shower here or there what erica did in this story can seem way over the top and fans who suggest the same can come across as doing the most too.
However I implore you who think as such to not forget what her powers allow her to ultimately do. she controls energies and forces that result in weather phenomena and NOT JUST WEATHER. since the energies in weather can be found essentially everywhere this allows her to perform abilities beyond just weather manipulation. the writer took it one step further with the weather goddess aspect by showing her create from nothing energies required to sustain weather (atmosphere and sun light source). Remember her mutant powers DOES NOT allow for her to create weather from area that does not already exist (this indicates there was more than her mutant abilities at work). if we as fans begin to really look at how her powers function as a goddess and as an omega none of what happened in the power of light story should be shocking.[/QUOTE]
I agree! That's why I called her an energy creator.
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A thought occurred to me. Unless it's a Mandela effect, didn't Storm turn off a Skrull's ship power? Wouldn't that also be direct evidence of pure energy manipulation? I mean I don't see a Skrull Warship running off of your run of the mill electricity.
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[QUOTE=The Regent;5870318]I agree! That's why I called her an energy creator.[/QUOTE]
yes beloved. I think there are a lot of people including her biggest fans who don't really understand what she can and should be able to do. I never see people of other powerful characters say thor or hulk are too op. heck you have iron man becoming a god but you see ororo do anything outside of shoot lightning and some get bothered. I dont understand it at all
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I know there are some who are reluctant to believe she created a star aka sun because it seemingly goes beyond what she can do canonically and i don't blame you.. [B]when all you get is krakoom and lightning and more lightning and then a rain shower here or there[/B] what erica did in this story can seem way over the top and fans who suggest the same can come across as doing the most too.[/QUOTE]
Lol. You killed me with this! That sound effect is so overused and so true! I don't know if you were intentionally intending to read these x writers for filth, but again it's so true so I got a laugh out of this! Perfect! You're making Levar proud baby with a read this good! Butterfly in the sky!
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870303]Erica came and ate the entire competition. Like unprovoked too. I mean Wooow![/QUOTE]
Right!? Like she was NOT f-ing around with this Storm opportunity. You know she's a fan because this whole story could have easily been Storm playing a support role.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5870315]right. again I can understand some of the fandom thinking it was too much but if you can accept her creating an atmosphere from nothing than why not her creating a sun? Both are beyond what she can do as a mutant.
That said, I'm curious too why [B]Knull mentioned Storm was his most powerful avatar[/B]. he possessed not only thor, hulk, a couple of the f4 members but also the celestials. I think marvel is leading us down a path of her full potential finally being realized and seeing how random the power of light story hit us im anxiously and cautiously waiting to see where it all leads.
Yea Im sorry but Erica ate this. I love Ewing and what he has done for storm was great but I need Ewing to bring this type of energy erica did in xmen red. If showings like this become common for storm casual readers and fans alike will not be so "omg storm cant do that" when she performs high-end feats.[/QUOTE]
And you know people still don't believe that? Like yeah, Knull really seems to the type to say sh!t just to say it. It's petty I know, but there's really no satisfaction like the satisfaction gets from shutting a salty hater down when it comes to Storm.
Agreed 1,000%!
And one more thing I want to point out about Ms. Erica, she didn't have Storm tired from doing all of that IN THE SLIGHTEST. Even Thor assumed that the effort of doing all of that would've left Storm on empty. Godly stamina? Another "ease" of the Galactic core showing through? [IMG]https://c.tenor.com/ctaNwo32sYkAAAAC/theworldmayneverknow-idk.gif[/IMG]
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I asked the writer herself if the issue occurred in the main universe and in which part of the timeline (yes, haters are saying it's not canonical, just because Storm and Thor are in their old uniforms and show the Ororo Greenhouse) and she tells me replied with that, lol she is really a love!
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I mean I though in Storm's case it fit right before Hox/Pox?
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When they say storm has power over the very fundamental forces that govern weather y'all think it is just lip service.
Here is Chris Claremont saying it.
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Here is storm saying it herself
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Y'all think fundamental in the fundamental forces was for dramatics?
She was literally describing her abilities as per what was established by Claremont. Her power goes that deep. Lightning lass is finally dying praise be!
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5870352]I mean I though in Storm's case it fit right before Hox/Pox?[/QUOTE]
Exactly and process that she already created a planetary atmosphere before puts mars into perspective. And the growing confidence that she is the most powerful omega in the council.
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5870352]I mean I though in Storm's case it fit right before Hox/Pox?[/QUOTE]
I also think it was, or at the beginning of it all, but now that I think about it, that question was so silly, that I'm ashamed that I asked her that..
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[QUOTE=Reigna;5870355]When they say storm has power over the very fundamental forces that govern weather y'all think it is just lip service.
Here is Chris Claremont saying it.
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Y'all think fundamental in the fundamental forces was for dramatics?
She was literally describing her abilities as per what was established by Claremont. Her power goes that deep. Lightning lass is finally dying praise be![/QUOTE]
I would love Claremont in an interview, maybe AIPT, where we could see his take on the Storm, its direction, its powers, and maybe we could ask him questions...
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5870361]I also think it was, or at the beginning of it all, but now that I think about it, that question was so silly, that I'm ashamed that I asked her that..[/QUOTE]
Hmm haters would make you do some silly things but at least now they have an answer to choke on.
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5870352]I mean I though in Storm's case it fit right before Hox/Pox?[/QUOTE]
That's where i would place it. That definitely looks like a krakoan flower in the pot.
Also it would explain why thor sought storm out during curse of the manthing when they stopped the spurs that was setting the sky on fire.
edit: i do wonder how long ago the story was written. i know if we go by info on the page it was at least december 4th with a publication date of the 15th so i have no doubt the x-writers must have seen or knew of this as well so kudos on the coordination.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5870397]That's where i would place it. That definitely looks like a krakoan flower in the pot.
Also it would explain why thor sought storm out during curse of the manthing when they stopped the spurs that was setting the sky on fire.
edit: i do wonder how long ago the story was written. i know if we go by info on the page it was at least december 4th with a publication date of the 15th so i have no doubt the x-writers must have seen or knew of this as well so kudos on the coordination.[/QUOTE]
Exactly and it made sense because he can create a great storm alright but this needed finesse something he isn't known for.
