How is placing her above Sue and Strange silly and irrelevant when it was practically stated in the comics and by the writer of the story himself.
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How is placing her above Sue and Strange silly and irrelevant when it was practically stated in the comics and by the writer of the story himself.
We been knew Storm could fight Current Strange. Remember when she broke his bands?
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5564055]I completely understand wanting her powers explored...but...as I've stated many times in this thread...it's not a competition especially among heroes. It should never be that. So placing her above Sue Storm and Dr. Strange is silly and irrelevant. Comparing her to Electro is equally pointless because they're two distinctly separate characters with vastly different in-story motivations and written by different people.
Genuine question: So, why? What purpose does it serve?[/QUOTE]
Your perspective is very interesting. It's almost like you simultaneously said opposite things with that statement. I simply brought an electro feat stating how diverse and versatile electricity as an ability is and storm having access to more energies should be able to take this a step further and you see that as silly? Like TF! Why is it silly that storm is stronger than Sue or strange, why does it not sit right with you? I have been noticing you say wired things like low-key trying to low-ball storm in her own thread. Who said it's a competition over here! please point me to the person who said it's a competition. If they are different charachters we shouldn't compare because? Don't you understand that it's a normal part of comic book discourse to compare charachters?there is a whole comic universe because of this? Or that whole aspect is lost on you. 🙄🙄🙄 Chile let me stop before I say something I regret.
I dont think it's a competition for posters but I do think it is about respect for the character. Many fans of hers know of her potential and history but outside the fandom she is always it seems lowballed. So for writers to finally write her as she was originally intended is gratifying as a fan to see.
Let's talk about how Storm is more powerful than Galactus, the Beyonder, and Molecule Man as well.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5564074]How is placing her above Sue and Strange silly and irrelevant when it was practically stated in the comics and by the writer of the story himself.[/QUOTE]
Like make it make sense. This isn't the first time, I always notice that anytime we speak about storms powers this user tries to interject I first thought they were trying to be a voice of reason keep us on the boundary of her ability but this last statement makes me realize it may be something else. Like why is it silly?
[QUOTE=davetvs;5564097]Let's talk about how Storm is more powerful than Galactus, the Beyonder, and Molecule Man as well.[/QUOTE]
You are more than welcome to create a thread to troll storm fans but not in this house honey. Not in here.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564100]You are more than welcome to create a thread to troll storm fans but not in this house honey. Not in here.[/QUOTE]
just ignore it and maybe it will go away lol
I didn't know trolls were still a thing like who goes to a thread to purposeful do that? so sad lol
She's stronger than Sue and Strange and the other Omegas...and? So what?
Sue Storm has been "possesed" by Psycho-Man/Hate Monger.
Dormmamu has managed to defeat Dr. Strange on numerous occasions.
All the Omegas have been bested often during various X-Men runs and stories.
My point...Storm being more powerful than these characters is not really a great testament of any kind.
It's not that her being stronger than other characters doesn't "sit right" with me...it's more, why is that so important to some fans and more importantly, to her? Sure, she's stronger than some but she's also "weaker" than others.
[quote=devaishwarya;5564109]she's stronger than sue and strange and the other omegas...and? So what?
Sue storm has been "possesed" by psycho-man/hate monger.
Dormmamu has managed to defeat dr. Strange on numerous occasions.
All the omegas have been bested often during various x-men runs and stories.
My point...storm being more powerful than these characters is not really a great testament of any kind.[/quote]
.....................k!
R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
That is a big part of why it important. Also great point about the writers themselves saying this. If it wasn't important why would they then need to make note of it? And why is it a big deal? Do people question Franklin Richards in the regard or Scarlet Witch? I never understood this why it seems to be an issue whenever this is exported with storm.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5564121]R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
That is a big part of why it important. Also great point about the writers themselves saying this. If it wasn't important why would they then need to make note of it? And why is it a big deal? Do people question Franklin Richards in the regard or Scarlet Witch? I never understood this why it seems to be an issue whenever this is exported with storm.[/QUOTE]
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Preach! Everyone gets to explore their power but when it gets to storm it's silly to consider what she should be able to do. In her own respect appreciation thread.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564099]Like make it make sense. This isn't the first time, I always notice that anytime we speak about storms powers this user tries to interject I first thought they were trying to be a voice of reason keep us on the boundary of her ability but this last statement makes me realize it may be something else. Like why is it silly?[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, this user has absolutely no ulterior motive or agenda other than to give a thoughtful objective different perspective but...seeing as how it's a delicate subject and as no one has managed to actually explain the pre-occupation to me...I'm quite done with this topic.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564142]���������������������������� Preach! Everyone gets to explore their power but when it gets to storm it's silly to consider what she should be able to do. In her own respect appreciation thread.[/QUOTE]
thank you.
thor gets to be all cosmic and do all sorts of things and no problems.
carol gets to do whatever the hell she does and then is exploring magic.
Hulk gets to go all immortal and busts worlds and blah blah blah
Wanda gets to change all reality.
Nate creates universes
But the character who was literally created to be the most powerful woman can't even get this explored or there is reservation by some to see it? Let's see her be what she was created to be. plain and simple
My take - irrespective of Storm being more powerful than Thor, IW or Strange I think the common thread in these posts is we’re ready for Storm to be regularly battle tested like them on panel. All of these characters had chances to take on some of the MU’s most well known/high profile powerful beings solo (respectfully winning or losing), but it is very rare for Storm to be tested in the same way, & we’re ready to see what omega level weather manipulation looks like. Nothing wrong with that.
Sticking in the vein of combat profiency and power I think we’ve been ready for Storm to get her turn at bat in the big leagues with some of the well known names and to get a definitive result on her omega level power. We’ve seen it with Magneto, Jean & Iceman but not quite yet with Storm. IW is also a good example. Even though IW lost she got show how much ass she could kick when pressed to fight the Avengers, which was one of my favorite demonstrations of how amazing she is. I don’t think she is more powerful than Thor, but seeing her grab his hammer with her power and remove him while fighting off so many capable opponents was completely badass, creative and expected of seasoned hero like her. Love reading action scenes like that where it justs a well thought out battle. If Storm gets some good lengthy focus in this regard I think it would make these conversations about her powers more productive (and friendlier for all).
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5564184]My take - irrespective of Storm being more powerful than Thor, IW or Strange I think the common thread in these posts is we’re ready for Storm to be regularly battle tested like them on panel. All of these characters had chances to take on some of the MU’s most well known/high profile powerful beings solo (respectfully winning or losing), but it is very rare for Storm to be tested in the same way, & we’re ready to see what omega level weather manipulation looks like. Nothing wrong with that.
Sticking in the vein of combat profiency and power I think we’ve been ready for Storm to get her turn at bat in the big leagues with some of the well known names and to get a definitive result on her omega level power. We’ve seen it with Magneto, Jean & Iceman but not quite yet with Storm. IW is also a good example. Even though IW lost she got show how much ass she could kick when pressed to fight the Avengers, which was one of my favorite demonstrations of how amazing she is. I don’t think she is more powerful than Thor, but seeing her grab his hammer with her power and remove him while fighting off so many capable opponents was completely badass, creative and expected of seasoned hero like her. Love reading action scenes like that where it justs a well thought out battle. If Storm gets some good lengthy focus in this regard I think it would make these conversations about her powers more productive (and friendlier for all).[/QUOTE]
well said as always!
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5564184]My take - irrespective of Storm being more powerful than Thor, IW or Strange I think the common thread in these posts is we’re ready for Storm to be regularly battle tested like them on panel. All of these characters had chances to take on some of the MU’s most well known/high profile powerful beings solo (respectfully winning or losing), but it is very rare for Storm to be tested in the same way, & we’re ready to see what omega level weather manipulation looks like. Nothing wrong with that.
Sticking in the vein of combat profiency and power I think we’ve been ready for Storm to get her turn at bat in the big leagues with some of the well known names and to get a definitive result on her omega level power. We’ve seen it with Magneto, Jean & Iceman but not quite yet with Storm. IW is also a good example. Even though IW lost she got show how much ass she could kick when pressed to fight the Avengers, which was one of my favorite demonstrations of how amazing she is. I don’t think she is more powerful than Thor, but seeing her grab his hammer with her power and remove him while fighting off so many capable opponents was completely badass, creative and expected of seasoned hero like her. Love reading action scenes like that where it justs a well thought out battle. If Storm gets some good lengthy focus in this regard I think it would make these conversations about her powers more productive (and friendlier for all).[/QUOTE]
Exactly! It's storms turn to play the big game.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564095]Your perspective is very interesting. It's almost like you simultaneously said opposite things with that statement. I simply brought an electro feat stating how diverse and versatile electricity as an ability is and storm having access to more energies should be able to take this a step further and you see that as silly? Like TF! Why is it silly that storm is stronger than Sue or strange, why does it not sit right with you? I have been noticing you say wired things like low-key trying to low-ball storm in her own thread. Who said it's a competition over here! please point me to the person who said it's a competition. If they are different charachters we shouldn't compare because? Don't you understand that it's a normal part of comic book discourse to compare charachters?there is a whole comic universe because of this? Or that whole aspect is lost on you. 🙄🙄🙄 Chile let me stop before I say something I regret.[/QUOTE]
It is quite silly has strange has proven to be beyond any other hero we know, from constantly fighting cosmic entities to actually borrowing their power, making such a statement is quite heavy for someone like storm who doesnt have the feats that stand to strange's simply with her mutant powers.
Imo i think ewing can be trusted to write storm at the best of her abilities. I think it's one of the main reasons why immortal hulk was accepted so well, the immortal hulk story is so good.
Shaman nate was bs and imo one of the worst marvel characters, right next to sentry and his "i was here all along capable of beating galactus and all".
[QUOTE=Nobodyworthnoting;5564336]Imo i think ewing can be trusted to write storm at the best of her abilities. I think it's one of the main reasons why immortal hulk was accepted so well, the immortal hulk story is so good.
Shaman nate was bs and imo one of the worst marvel characters, right next to sentry and his "i was here all along capable of beating galactus and all".[/QUOTE]
I for one do not want her to beat galactus or do a I could beat him all along situation. I just want creative writers who will push her and test her abilities to grow because there is something very sad about a charachter with his much potential just throwing lightning. I like most storm fans want her powers employed in new creative ways, to tap into the vast versatility of her powerset. But we don't get that. Under Ewing I believe she would be pushed to grow in her power.
[QUOTE=Nobodyworthnoting;5564334]It is quite silly has strange has proven to be beyond any other hero we know, from constantly fighting cosmic entities to actually borrowing their power, making such a statement is quite heavy for someone like storm who doesnt have the feats that stand to strange's simply with her mutant powers.[/QUOTE]
Ehhh that's why we are advocating for her to get her power tested and pushed and her divinity explored because it's not a silly notion but due to the sheer lack of battle tested feats and lack of any development by writers for over 20 years the biggest ones being she has a godhead which makes her a bigger god that adversary and that she is a bonfied omega level mutant, nothing.
Had knull said what he said about jean, iceman or magneto instead of storm people would be more inclined to believe it even though her high end feats trump theirs. It's because they as Wind Rider stated have been tested and pushed to grow in ways that no one thought possible.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564362]I for one do not want her to beat galactus or do a I could beat him all along situation. I just want creative writers who will push her and test her abilities to grow because there is something very sad about a charachter with his much potential just throwing lightning. I like most storm fans want her powers employed in new creative ways, to tap into the vast versatility of her powerset. But we don't get that. Under Ewing I believe she would be pushed to grow in her power.[/QUOTE]
didn't jean beat galactus in an alternate future? if she can do it certainly storm can
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5564394]didn't jean beat galactus in an alternate future? if she can do it certainly storm can
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It's not what I am looking for but I won't object to it happening, I mean jean did it why can't storm. But my focus is on the power itself expanding and growing along with her lineage and legacy being explored. I want to know what Ashake's life was like. How the rain queens tie into her lineage how her family is connected to the dawn of atlantis it seems why their hair is white and their eyes blue. What is the legend of the wind rider. Who are the past wind riders, how did they attain divinity in their bloodline...etc. I want all these answered but we get more if the same grey/summers family stuff shoved down our throat.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564362]I for one do not want her to beat galactus or do a I could beat him all along situation. I just want creative writers who will push her and test her abilities to grow because there is something very sad about a charachter with his much potential just throwing lightning. I like most storm fans want her powers employed in new creative ways, to tap into the vast versatility of her powerset. But we don't get that. Under Ewing I believe she would be pushed to grow in her power.[/QUOTE]
I 100% agree with this. Just throwung lightning is kinda meh, I liked that in the fantastic four run she uses elements to create either h-bombs, she could very well be a cosmic player if hickman allowed it so.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5564394]didn't jean beat galactus in an alternate future? if she can do it certainly storm can
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Jean, with a phoenix raptor + absorbing galactus+ 4 surfer's psionic powers alledgedly was able to contend with galactus, but the comic never stated that she won.
And no, just because future jean gets an unknown power up out of nowhere doesnt mean every other character can. It was strictly bs to show what if she absorbed a ridiculous amount of psionic energy.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564365]Ehhh that's why we are advocating for her to get her power tested and pushed and her divinity explored because it's not a silly notion but due to the sheer lack of battle tested feats and lack of any development by writers for over 20 years the biggest ones being she has a godhead which makes her a bigger god that adversary and that she is a bonfied omega level mutant, nothing.
Had knull said what he said about jean, iceman or magneto instead of storm people would be more inclined to believe it even though her high end feats trump theirs. It's because they as Wind Rider stated have been tested and pushed to grow in ways that no one thought possible.[/QUOTE]
No, if knull had said that any of those characters were more powerful than STRANGE, no one besides those characters fanboys/girls would believe, because strange has proven time and time again, he's far and beyond any other hero including bs characters like the sentry.
The problem is that many writers choose to ignore the fact that she can tap into more mediums than just “earths atmosphere”. She doesn’t have to leave earth to control space weather. That’s why I loved that Claremont established her powers operate on a cosmic level.
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Also Coates run showing her manipulating solar energy from the sun to create a worldwide aurora, and splitting the ozone layer and magnetic field. And as a skrull, manipulating specific wavelengths of EM energy and channeling it through herself like lightning.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5564055]I completely understand wanting her powers explored...but...as I've stated many times in this thread...it's not a competition especially among heroes. It should never be that. So placing her above Sue Storm and Dr. Strange is silly and irrelevant. Comparing her to Electro is equally pointless because they're two distinctly separate characters with vastly different in-story motivations and written by different people.
Genuine question: So, why? What purpose does it serve?[/QUOTE]
Imaginary bragging rights and to distract her feat obsessed fans with the fact that she hasn't actually mattered as a character in almost two decades.
Let's continue to ignore the fact that she's now more irrelevant to the franchise than Emma Frost and Kitty Pryde when we can boast about her being more powerful than Dr Strange (Whut) cause a writer humouring said feat obsessed fans on twitter said so.
It's sickening that Marvel's premier black female character is treated this way but I guess none of that matters now that we know she's the omegas omega (Cringe).
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564426]It's not what I am looking for but I won't object to it happening, I mean jean did it why can't storm. But my focus is on the power itself expanding and growing along with her lineage and legacy being explored. I want to know what Ashake's life was like. How the rain queens tie into her lineage how her family is connected to the dawn of atlantis it seems why their hair is white and their eyes blue. What is the legend of the wind rider. Who are the past wind riders, how did they attain divinity in their bloodline...etc. I want all these answered but we get more if the same grey/summers family stuff shoved down our throat.[/QUOTE]
I would like that too.
[QUOTE=Nobodyworthnoting;5564638]Jean, with a phoenix raptor + absorbing galactus+ 4 surfer's psionic powers alledgedly was able to contend with galactus, but the comic never stated that she won.
And no, just because future jean gets an unknown power up out of nowhere doesnt mean every other character can. It was strictly bs to show what if she absorbed a ridiculous amount of psionic energy.[/QUOTE]
storm has channeled the energies of millions of stars, defeated Trion in their own dimension and healed their dimension, as well as defeated an universal threat adversary. our girl doesn't need any power ups as how she operates now us sufficient enough. i can see storm draining galactus of all of the energy he has acquired that he gained by earing planets essentially making him inert.
[QUOTE=OmegaStorm87;5564753]Imaginary bragging rights and to distract her feat obsessed fans with the fact that she hasn't actually mattered as a character in almost two decades.
Let's continue to ignore the fact that she's now more irrelevant to the franchise than Emma Frost and Kitty Pryde when we can boast about her being more powerful than Dr Strange (Whut) cause a writer humouring said feat obsessed fans on twitter said so.
It's sickening that Marvel's premier black female character is treated this way but I guess none of that matters now that we know she's the omegas omega (Cringe).[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with you. Storm should be way more prominent than she's been in a [B]long[/B] time (I guess we'll see what her joining SWORD does, if that's what's happening), but all anybody seems to care about are FEATS and how much more powerful she is than every other character. It's like, a joke.
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5564694]The problem is that many writers choose to ignore the fact that she can tap into more mediums than just “earths atmosphere”. She doesn’t have to leave earth to control space weather. That’s why I loved that Claremont established her powers operate on a cosmic level.
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Also Coates run showing her manipulating solar energy from the sun to create a worldwide aurora, and splitting the ozone layer and magnetic field. And as a skrull, manipulating specific wavelengths of EM energy and channeling it through herself like lightning.[/QUOTE]
agreed to all of this. Jordan d white once mentioned that it didn't make sense for her powers to work in space and I was dumbfounded. how could you say that as an xmen editor. im like did you miss one of the biggest runs of the xmen written by Claremont where he literally explains her powers are intensified in space because of the vast amounts of energy at her disposal?
wait when the Coates show her manipulating solar energy from the sun? are you talking about this?
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[QUOTE=OmegaStorm87;5564753]Imaginary bragging rights and to distract her feat obsessed fans with the fact that she hasn't actually mattered as a character in almost two decades.
Let's continue to ignore the fact that she's now more irrelevant to the franchise than Emma Frost and Kitty Pryde when we can boast about her being more powerful than Dr Strange (Whut) cause a writer humouring said feat obsessed fans on twitter said so.
It's sickening that Marvel's premier black female character is treated this way but I guess none of that matters now that we know she's the omegas omega (Cringe).[/QUOTE]
Yh I have been thinking about that statement now it feels like mockery. Like he never said yes he just coyly said she is the omega's omega like what the F does that mean. I was told by another fan that he was most likely trolling but was trying to seem covert and discrete about it. I even asked how is she the omegas omega when legion has 200 omega level personalities in his head. Like how does that work. I don't know but that statement Duggan said and the new perspective I have on what he said makes me see his run in a whole new light.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5564800]agreed to all of this. Jordan d white once mentioned that it didn't make sense for her powers to work in space and I was dumbfounded. how could you say that as an xmen editor. im like did you miss one of the biggest runs of the xmen written by Claremont where he literally explains her powers are intensified in space because of the vast amounts of energy at her disposal?
wait when the Coates show her manipulating solar energy from the sun? are you talking about this?
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He was drastically dragged for that foolishness
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564809]He was drastically dragged for that foolishness[/QUOTE]
lololol i hate to see creators being told but in that instance I could understand the dragging. I dont recall anyone being disrespectful which was good but I did notice after storm fans showed him receipts he retreated for twitter for a long period.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564807]Yh I have been thinking about that statement now it feels like mockery. Like he never said yes he just coyly said she is the omega's omega like what the F does that mean. I was told by another fan that he was most likely trolling but was trying to seem covert and discrete about it. I even asked how is she the omegas omega when legion has 200 omega level personalities in his head. Like how does that work. I don't know but that statement Duggan said and the new perspective I have on what he said makes me see his run in a whole new light.[/QUOTE]
Duggan said the Omega's omega thing as a result of showing her in the comic as being knulls most powerful avatar. was he trolling when he had knull make that statement? the man likes storm and wasn't trolling that much is clear. whoever said that probably doesn't consider storm their favorite if I had to take a wager.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5564817]lololol i hate to see creators being told but in that instance I could understand the dragging. I dont recall anyone being disrespectful which was good but I did notice after storm fans showed him receipts he retreated for twitter for a long period.[/QUOTE]
That was a very satisfying day. Also what do you think about the omegas omega statement because I now have a strong feeling that Duggan was trolling. Like he says she is omegas omega and has her doing next to nothing in his run. I feel like we as her fans kind of fell for it because of the disrespect she has endured for soo long sans Coates. I think I now understand you fully why you deeply appreciate Coates and what he did for her. Because outside him no true development none. Just glorified baby sitting.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5564819]Duggan said the Omega's omega thing as a result of showing her in the comic as being knulls most powerful avatar. was he trolling when he had knull make that statement? the man likes storm and wasn't trolling that much is clear. whoever said that probably doesn't consider storm their favorite if I had to take a wager.[/QUOTE]
Duggan stated this to you? I guess it was private then. But that statement just feels wired he could have just said yes or no but he had to just say that and he hasn't once backed it up in over 20 issues. And now he is writing planet size which even dampens my expectations even more for the book. I mean it's cool he is a storm fan but remember x-men gold writer said he was a fan too and we got well....
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564821]That was a very satisfying day. Also what do you think about the omegas omega statement because I now have a strong feeling that Duggan was trolling. Like he says she is omegas omega and has her doing next to nothing in his run. I feel like we as her fans kind of fell for it because of the disrespect she has endured for soo long sans Coates. I think I now understand you fully why you deeply appreciate Coates and what he did for her. Because outside him no true development none. Just glorified baby sitting.[/QUOTE]
no I don't think he was trolling. if he had said it randomly to a poster asking that question then I would have questioned it but that response was due to a canonical statement made regarding storm.
that said, his handling of her has definitely been underwhelming. we got some cute things but it was very lacking in comparison to what we saw from Coates.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564829]Duggan stated this to you? I guess it was private then. But that statement just feels wired he could have just said yes or no but he had to just say that and he hasn't once backed it up in over 20 issues. And now he is writing planet size which even dampens my expectations even more for the book. I mean it's cool he is a storm fan but remember x-men gold writer said he was a fan too and we got well....[/QUOTE]
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no it was all public. the user was asking about that statement knull made in kib. knull didn't absorb dr. strange he was only captured but the other heroes who were included thor, hulk, invisible woman. so Duggan put that out there in 616 as her being the most powerful. it wouldn't make any sense for him to do that only to follow it up with a trollish statement, at least not to me.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564807]Yh I have been thinking about that statement now it feels like mockery. Like he never said yes he just coyly said she is the omega's omega like what the F does that mean. I was told by another fan that he was most likely trolling but was trying to seem covert and discrete about it. I even asked how is she the omegas omega when legion has 200 omega level personalities in his head. Like how does that work. I don't know but that statement Duggan said and the new perspective I have on what he said makes me see his run in a whole new light.[/QUOTE]
Of course he was trolling. The writers/editors don't give two shits about feats/battles or which Omega is more Omega than all the other Omegas. They write the characters to suit whatever story they want to tell. On paper, Storm is more powerful than both Cyclops and Wolverine but that doesn't mean a writer can't have either of them beat Storm in battle, omega or not, which both have in the past despite fEaTz. It's IRRELEVANT. The fact that his trolling has gone over heads is cringe.
We need to focus on her missue as a BLACK WOMAN with NO VOICE in 2021. Remember when she was just as central a player to the mythos as Scott & Jean? Now she doesn't even come close to them. That's what we should be arguing for. Instead Duggan's response shows just how little respect they have for Storm fans.
[QUOTE=OmegaStorm87;5564854]Of course he was trolling. The writers/editors don't give two shits about feats/battles or which Omega is more Omega than all the other Omegas. They write the characters to suit whatever story they want to tell. On paper, Storm is more powerful than both Cyclops and Wolverine but that doesn't mean a writer can't have either of them beat Storm in battle omega or not, which both have in the past despite fEaTz. It's IRRELEVANT. The fact that his trolling has gone over heads is cringe.
We need to focus on her missue as a BLACK WOMAN with NO VOICE in 2021. Remember when she was just as central a player to the mythos as Scott & Jean? Now she doesn't even come close to them. That's what we should be arguing for. Instead Duggan's response shows just how little respect they have for Storm fans.[/QUOTE]
its a comicbook about super-powered beings of course feats are relevant. its like some people read comics as if they are literary non-fiction biographies or something. attempting to shame comic readers for wanting to see FeAtz considering this fact is what is cringy.
that said I do agree with the last part. storm fans have been focused on it. petitions have been created, fans have directly messaged marvel and creators alike asking for the very thing you mentioned. to think that storm fans have not been doing this because they also want to see her written as she created to be, which is powerful too, isn't accurate at all.
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no it was all public. the user was asking about that statement knull made in kib. knull didn't absorb dr. strange he was only captured but the other heroes who were included thor, hulk, invisible woman. so Duggan put that out there in 616 as her being the most powerful. it wouldn't make any sense for him to do that only to follow it up with a trollish statement, at least not to me.[/QUOTE]
Yh I get that but do you notice how he doesn't really answer the question just states that statement which we all fully know he is not really going to address it or back it up. He just said it like that is supposed to be charachter development of some sort. In all his 20 issue run storm has done nothing to signify this. Like even charachter we got nothing just storm baby sitting kitty like that's literally one of her major motivations for joining the marauders aside helping other people. Then we got marauders 13 which was just hmmmm no comment. Sky breaker had a wack back story with a redundant place in the entire storyline. I can truly say only Coates has done something with storm has given her direction but we'll that couldn't be explored because he had to focus on bp but he still did his best for her. And for that I will always be greatfull
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5564869]Yh I get that but do you notice how he doesn't really answer the question just states that statement which we all fully know he is not really going to address it or back it up. He just said it like that is supposed to be charachter development of some sort. In all his 20 issue run storm has done nothing to signify this. Like even charachter we got nothing just storm baby sitting kitty like that's literally one of her major motivations for joining the marauders aside helping other people. Then we got marauders 13 which was just hmmmm no comment. Sky breaker had a wack back story with a redundant place in the entire storyline. I can truly say only Coates has done something with storm has given her direction but we'll that couldn't be explored because he had to focus on bp but he still did his best for her. And for that I will always be greatfull[/QUOTE]
first off before I get into what his response is the more important thing is what was said in canon:
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that is all that matters in context of 616. whether he was trolling or not is irrelevant to canon.
now to his response, I believe he gave a response that supports what he wrote in that story. the reality is that Coates really changed the trajectory of the character. she was shown by the xoffices barely able to do anything about a cloud and coates came in a wrote her as a goddess. many fans began to call the writers out for this I truly believe this lead to one of the reasons why she was included as an omega. that said, I agree his storm hasn't done anything impressive powerwise but it seems like planetsize may be setting her up for something big. also, with my interactions with Duggan on twitter he is pretty straight forward. if he wanted to say storm wasn't powerful he was just say it. he wouldn't go the route of being passive aggressive.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5564866]its a comicbook about super-powered beings of course feats are relevant. its like some people read comics as if they are literary non-fiction biographies or something. attempting to shame comic readers for wanting to see FeAtz considering this fact is what is cringy.
that said I do agree with the last part. storm fans have been focused on it. petitions have been created, fans have directly messaged marvel and creators alike asking for the very thing you mentioned. to think that storm fans have not been doing this because they also want to see her written as she created to be, which is powerful too, isn't accurate at all.[/QUOTE]
I think omegastorm87 is onto something, remember how I said this whole run has felt like wired for storm like she is here but she is not here. She there just to be there. They gave her nice titles and to lead the people when it comes to celebrating resurections but all that feels hollow. It feels like she has no pull on the island the story revolves around magneto, moira,xavier...with jean, cyclops, nightcrawler, Emma, kate and such all having pivotal roles in shaping the nation and it's future whilst storm is babysitting Kate and sitting on a table talk show which can't even handle the children crisis on the island. Like help make it make sense. I for one do not care about that island and it's mess, I would like storm to leave them to do their thing and she move on to the marvel universe at large because whatever is going on on that island is really not her problem.