Also in the scan talks about Storm perception too.
She is about to observe how a lightning bolt is made. Well, we know for a fact the flash of a lightning bolt is light speed. Electrons also move at some percent of light speed.
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Also in the scan talks about Storm perception too.
She is about to observe how a lightning bolt is made. Well, we know for a fact the flash of a lightning bolt is light speed. Electrons also move at some percent of light speed.
She can perceive it and create it but she can't move or react in LS at least not without the direct help of lightning/electricity.
She's a Goddess....how much more power and abilities do some of you want her to have?
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Nah Storm is able to perceive the universe as energy patterns.
"She feels the electrical caress of the interstellar winds against her bare skin..... and thrills to a song composed of the patterns of Tachyons" This text is directly talking about Storm.
Also, the scan didn't mention the Acanti until adding on how fast Tachyons are with "that can only be perceived by those creatures of exceeding the speed of light itself"
This means either Storm is being boosted by solar winds or she can manipulate Tachyons.[/QUOTE]
Y'all watch this rain in a universal terms is a very broad thing.
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Nah Storm is able to perceive the universe as energy patterns.
"She feels the electrical caress of the interstellar winds against her bare skin..... and thrills to a song composed of the patterns of Tachyons" This text is directly talking about Storm.
Also, the scan didn't mention the Acanti until adding on how fast Tachyons are with "that can only be perceived by those creatures of exceeding the speed of light itself"
This means either Storm is being boosted by solar winds or she can manipulate Tachyons.[/QUOTE]
Hey believe whatever you like. :)
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5655353]She can perceive it and create it but she can't move or react in LS at least not without the direct help of lightning/electricity.
She's a Goddess....how much more power and abilities do some of you want her to have?[/QUOTE]
Of course, she's a Goddess, so it's only fair to have the skills and accomplishments of one. Since most comic book characters have a standard kit with super attributes, it's only fitting that Storm has durability, FTL speed and super strength.
LOL...if you say so.
I'm just glad that the chances that some of you writing Storm for Marvel are virtually nil.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5655431]LOL...if you say so.
I'm just glad that the chances that some of you writing Storm for Marvel are virtually nil.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry but what is sooo wrong about storm in her divine mode having increased durability and strength? I fail to see your logic so please explain.
I wouldn't mind some stat increases when in goddess mode. there should be some different qualities i would think when in that form.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5655522]I wouldn't mind some stat increases when in goddess mode. there should be some different qualities i would think when in that form.[/QUOTE]
Exactly the energy stats and intelligence stats especially I mean, 5 and 2? She is a 3 for intelligence she is a teacher for crying out loud and can outsmart even golden boy Scott when it comes to it. And at least a 6 for energy as she actually manipulates various forms of energy at once to control the weather. Goddess mode should have even higher stats especially for strength, durability and speed.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5655546]Exactly the energy stats and intelligence stats especially I mean, 5 and 2? She is a 3 for intelligence she is a teacher for crying out loud and can outsmart even golden boy Scott when it comes to it. And at least a 6 for energy as she actually manipulates various forms of energy at once to control the weather. Goddess mode should have even higher stats especially for strength, durability and speed.[/QUOTE]
and even those stats are outdated for her baseline abilities when noting current feats. i certainly hope Ewing does a bit of explaining what hr godhead abilities allow her to do. maybe there are no boosts in stats but it should be explained at least.
that said, I agree dirty she should have increased strength, durability and speed. if not something its just seems like her regular powers with the exception of using divine energy.
I hate autocorrect so much lol
Increased durability it’s needed to withstand the void of outer space, the pressure of the deepest ocean, the thousand of debris trapped in a raging tornado, 500 mph winds and upward unless people want her face to fall off……
[QUOTE=Daedra;5655560]Increased durability it’s needed to withstand the void of outer space, the pressure of the deepest ocean, the thousand of debris trapped in a raging tornado, 500 mph winds and upward unless people want her face to fall off……[/QUOTE]
lmfao not her face falling off lolololol
I'm done honey lol
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5655431]LOL...if you say so.
I'm just glad that the chances that some of you writing Storm for Marvel are virtually nil.[/QUOTE]
lol, for you, how should Ororo be with her goddess status? Considering that Bast the Goddess of Wakanda also has super attributes and even immortality, by being in contact with the deity longer, most Marvel characters (Dc included) have FTL speed, I don't see the problem with Ororo being in this list...
[QUOTE=Stormy;5655567]lol, for you, how should Ororo be with her goddess status? Considering that Bast the Goddess of Wakanda also has super attributes and even immortality, by being in contact with the deity longer, most Marvel characters (Dc included) have FTL speed, I don't see the problem with Ororo being in this list...[/QUOTE]
I dont think he would even have her be a real goddess if he had his way lol.
Truth to tell...no I wouldn't, not in the way it was revealed. OL is good enough for me. But that goddess is out of the bottle...so to speak...and until Ewing defines it and does something with it...it is what it is.
I'm certain there are others who share your sentiments.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5655133]IMHO, I think you're mixing the abilities of the Acanti and Storm. I can see how the captions can be confusing but I highly doubt Storm can perceive information faster then light.
Now with that being said, I do think she can access subspace to manipulate energy.[/QUOTE]
I am quite certain she can do that. Most people forget how many things are put behind the architecture of a rainfall, let alone a hurricane, or blizzard... She can change the weather in a blink of an eye, that alone speaks that her thoughts speed is far beyond LS because to cast a storm in a mere second with the architecture behind it... oh man you have no idea how much thought, calculation and other raw data must be put to make it even work, let alone summon it. You have to be fully aware of the chemicals combustion, the atmospheric pressure, the atoms that are interconnected within it, and so, so many other things which I probably don't even think. So yes, I do believe that Storm has quite the fast thought, definitely at least LS.
I did love today's SWORD issue it was rejuvenating to finally see Storm once more, but man... did I need MORE of it... it just wasn't enough...
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5655460]I am sorry but what is sooo wrong about storm in her divine mode having increased durability and strength? I fail to see your logic so please explain.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Like do they want her to remain a Basic Bitch while she's in goddess mode? Make it make sense
Thankfully, we have actual writers to make it make sense.
Because stacking power on top of power and ability on top of ability as some of you do every day...results in a character who either becomes so overpowered, they're unbeatable and poses no threat to anyone (villain or hero) or they're beaten/nerfed in some utterly ridiculous way...both of which makes for really stupid, dumb AF storytelling and characterisation.
to be fair even some of the suggestions that have been made it still doesn't go to the level of what thor currently does or even what we've seen from thor in the past for example. the overpowered argument is one I understand and get but I do believe there is a lot more growth in the powers department especially from just shooting lightning.
If Storm MUST have superhuman attributes I'd prefer if it was reserved for when she's actively using her God mode. She doesn't have to walk around being a tank 24/7, only in the most dire of situations. That being said, I'd like more creative applications of her power like elemental or electromagnetic shields and weapons. The strength, durability and reaction boosts could come if she has to face a planet buster or something idk
I'm not sure where this is from but good news:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7eu15-XEAUmhZ2?format=png&name=small[/img]
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5655855]If Storm MUST have superhuman attributes I'd prefer if it was reserved for when she's actively using her God mode. She doesn't have to walk around being a tank 24/7, only in the most dire of situations. That being said, I'd like more creative applications of her power like elemental or electromagnetic shields and weapons. The strength, durability and reaction boosts could come if she has to face a planet buster or something idk[/QUOTE]
100% agreed on all of this miss snarks!!!
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5655834]Thankfully, we have actual writers to make it make sense.
Because stacking power on top of power and ability on top of ability as some of you do every day...results in a character who either becomes so overpowered, they're unbeatable and poses no threat to anyone (villain or hero) or they're beaten/nerfed in some utterly ridiculous way...both of which makes for really stupid, dumb AF storytelling and characterisation.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I understand how power stacking can be detrimental in the long run but some bodily adaptations sometimes are a necessary complements to a well working main mutation, a frail human body (even a peak human one) is ill suited to withstand the titanic forces unleashed by Ororo’s omega power, she needs to be more durable otherwise she would constantly run the risk of damaging her physical body if not utterly destroying it.
I think her resistance could at the very least work in a scalable fashion not unlike her ability to adapt when facing extreme temperatures.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5655834]Thankfully, we have actual writers to make it make sense.
Because stacking power on top of power and ability on top of ability as some of you do every day...results in a character who either becomes so overpowered, they're unbeatable and poses no threat to anyone (villain or hero) or they're beaten/nerfed in some utterly ridiculous way...both of which makes for really stupid, dumb AF storytelling and characterisation.[/QUOTE]
The fact that she is a literal Goddess among countless mutants that most don't even have a planetary level makes her very robbed, so it would be better for her to have solos where she could venture out on her own without being nerfed so as not to steal all the highlights from others characters.
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5655855]If Storm MUST have superhuman attributes I'd prefer if it was reserved for when she's actively using her God mode. She doesn't have to walk around being a tank 24/7, only in the most dire of situations. That being said, I'd like more creative applications of her power like elemental or electromagnetic shields and weapons. The strength, durability and reaction boosts could come if she has to face a planet buster or something idk[/QUOTE]
So that's what I want, I totally agree with you, let's say "Goddess Mode" would be her pinnacle? It was a status they gave her, so it's only fair to give her talents that honor her status (I'm honestly tired of having only quotes to revere her as a Goddess).
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5655708]I am quite certain she can do that. Most people forget how many things are put behind the architecture of a rainfall, let alone a hurricane, or blizzard... She can change the weather in a blink of an eye, that alone speaks that her thoughts speed is far beyond LS because to cast a storm in a mere second with the architecture behind it... oh man you have no idea how much thought, calculation and other raw data must be put to make it even work, let alone summon it. You have to be fully aware of the chemicals combustion, the atmospheric pressure, the atoms that are interconnected within it, and so, so many other things which I probably don't even think. So yes, I do believe that Storm has quite the fast thought, definitely at least LS.
I did love today's SWORD issue it was rejuvenating to finally see Storm once more, but man... did I need MORE of it... it just wasn't enough...[/QUOTE]
No, her thoughts are not faster than light. Storm's mind is connected to the entire planet (or quadrant of space when not connected to a planet), she manipulates the elements (wind, water. Earth and Eletro-magnetic) by psionically (telekinesis) moving atomic and subatomic particles to manipulate her environment.
She pulls elements from other areas to create weather effects...this is the reason her powers are sometimes limited in certain places. While her manipulation is very fast, it is not faster than lightspeed.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5655863]I'm not sure where this is from but good news:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7eu15-XEAUmhZ2?format=png&name=small[/img][/QUOTE]
YAAS! I want sales to grow even more, this title is one of the best of the current phase
[QUOTE=Stormy;5655936]YAAS! I want sales to grow even more, this title is one of the best of the current phase[/QUOTE]
it really is and it features storm!!! I love it!!
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5655931]No, her thoughts are not faster than light. Storm's mind is connected to the entire planet (or quadrant of space when not connected to a planet), she manipulates the elements (wind, water. Earth and Eletro-magnetic) by psionically (telekinesis) moving atomic and subatomic particles to manipulate her environment.
She pulls elements from other areas to create weather effects...this is the reason her powers are sometimes limited in certain places. While her manipulation is very fast, it is not faster than lightspeed.[/QUOTE]
There is real research that claims the speed of thought can be faster than light, and in The Ultimates 2, Monica in her light form lost to a psychic who said the speed of thought was above the speed of light.
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And Ororo's powers react at the speed of conscious thought (I bet that Galatic Core feat, her powers had to be pretty fast, considering she had a bit of x time before dying without air to reach that full extent. from the Galactic core.)
[QUOTE=Stormy;5655960]There is real research that claims the speed of thought can be faster than light, and in The Ultimates 2, Monica in her light form lost to a psychic who said the speed of thought was above the speed of light.
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And Ororo's powers react at the speed of conscious thought (I bet that Galatic Core feat, her powers had to be pretty fast, considering she had a bit of x time before dying without air to reach that full extent. from the Galactic core.)[/QUOTE]
I found this scan a while back in xmen 105 on how fast the speed of thought is:
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/F0EqlilT_1r2fA86_IDfmWzItrEI_844GCBgCM0nctNVVMNKgLNbvLXuRUw23N_RMk0zaJMY5zjQ=s1600[/img]
personally I took this as evidence that her powers activate extremely fast as it has been characterized many times her powers activate in less than a conscious thought. however, this could be hyperbole. nevertheless how powers dont take time as some in world would like us to believe.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5655931]No, her thoughts are not faster than light. Storm's mind is connected to the entire planet (or quadrant of space when not connected to a planet), she manipulates the elements (wind, water. Earth and Eletro-magnetic) by psionically (telekinesis) moving atomic and subatomic particles to manipulate her environment.
She pulls elements from other areas to create weather effects...this is the reason her powers are sometimes limited in certain places. While her manipulation is very fast, it is not faster than lightspeed.[/QUOTE]
I am not going to argue with you. However, I would recommend you to read some real-world scientific researches and as some other people pointed out, it is mentioned in multiple places that thoughts usually are faster than light... even the normal human mind is close if not as fast as light, especially if someone thinks logically and/or mathematical. And I am talking about an experienced mind here.
What I can tell you about Storm is that her thoughts are extremely fast... and if the scans say that she heard creatures who can be heard by beings who have fast thoughts... well it is canon and it can't be changed. My statement remains, Storm thoughts are fast, especially if you break into small parts of her mutation and the way it works, you even proved it in your own reply within the quote above... what you believe or not is your own right but when the reality says otherwise, I am sorry but regardless of what you think, the statement remains quite real.
[QUOTE=Rosa Snarks;5655855]If Storm MUST have superhuman attributes I'd prefer if it was reserved for when she's actively using her God mode. She doesn't have to walk around being a tank 24/7, only in the most dire of situations. That being said, I'd like more creative applications of her power like elemental or electromagnetic shields and weapons. The strength, durability and reaction boosts could come if she has to face a planet buster or something idk[/QUOTE]
Agreed, unless she gets an elemental form she should have increased strength durability and speed for her divine mode.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5655960]There is real research that claims the speed of thought can be faster than light, and in The Ultimates 2, Monica in her light form lost to a psychic who said the speed of thought was above the speed of light.
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IIRC, Tyrone is not a telepath. He is a astral projection (energy being) that can possess people. I use to read NU Psi-Force...good series if you can find it.
Now with that being said, if Monica is not flying or reacting at super-speeds her thought speed is as normal as everyone else. Believe me, Monica is one of my favorite heroes (along with Storm and Vixen), I have very deep files on her.
She been stopped by Iron Man, a monkey and dark force users.
Also, Speed of light is 186,232 miles per second. Meaning Monica can circle the earth 8 times in 1 second. In other word, Monica can fly to Paris, pick up some croissants, fly to the Avengers headquarter, then fly to Louisiana to check up on her parents, then fly back to the battlefield, land behind her opponent while they're still thinking "I".
It's funny I just had to explain this in a Thor Vs Superman debate.
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And Ororo's powers react at the speed of conscious thought (I bet that Galatic Core feat, her powers had to be pretty fast, considering she had a bit of x time before dying without air to reach that full extent. from the Galactic core.)[/QUOTE]
As i said earlier, light is much faster than thought. Think about it, Flash and Monica can have whole conversations in a fraction of a second.
The references to their first encounter in the sword issue was really nice!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5655968]I found this scan a while back in xmen 105 on how fast the speed of thought is:
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/F0EqlilT_1r2fA86_IDfmWzItrEI_844GCBgCM0nctNVVMNKgLNbvLXuRUw23N_RMk0zaJMY5zjQ=s1600[/img]
personally I took this as evidence that her powers activate extremely fast as it has been characterized many times her powers activate in less than a conscious thought. however, this could be hyperbole. nevertheless how powers dont take time as some in world would like us to believe.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm so according cannon light and thought are the same speed. And her power operates with less than a conscious thought so it could mean her power is actually faster than light?
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5656024]Hmmm so according cannon light and thought are the same speed. And her power operates with less than a conscious thought so it could mean her power is actually faster than light?[/QUOTE]
exactly how fast they operate is what I thought was faster than light. that i think is a bit different from the conversation our friends are having above.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5655931]No, her thoughts are not faster than light. Storm's mind is connected to the entire planet (or quadrant of space when not connected to a planet), she manipulates the elements (wind, water. Earth and Eletro-magnetic) by psionically (telekinesis) moving atomic and subatomic particles to manipulate her environment.
She pulls elements from other areas to create weather effects...this is the reason her powers are sometimes limited in certain places. While her manipulation is very fast, it is not faster than lightspeed.[/QUOTE]
I think it depends on what she is doing because the bigger the feat the more time it would take but as a lightning bolt or a hurricane it takes very very less.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5656021]IIRC, Tyrone is not a telepath. He is a astral projection (energy being) that can possess people. I use to read NU Psi-Force...good series if you can find it.
Now with that being said, [B]if Monica is not flying or reacting at super-speeds her thought speed is as normal as everyone else.[/B] Believe me, Monica is one of my favorite heroes (along with Storm and Vixen), I have very deep files on her.[/QUOTE]
Pages before, she would react, however, was interrupted (and in the same title it was said that although she transformed into her human form, she was operating as energy)
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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5656004]I am not going to argue with you. However, I would recommend you to read some real-world scientific researches and as some other people pointed out, it is mentioned in multiple places that thoughts usually are faster than light... even the normal human mind is close if not as fast as light, especially if someone thinks logically and/or mathematical. And I am talking about an experienced mind here.
What I can tell you about Storm is that her thoughts are extremely fast... and if the scans say that she heard creatures who can be heard by beings who have fast thoughts... well it is canon and it can't be changed. My statement remains, Storm thoughts are fast, especially if you break into small parts of her mutation and the way it works, you even proved it in your own reply within the quote above... what you believe or not is your own right but when the reality says otherwise, I am sorry but regardless of what you think, the statement remains quite real.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you understand how fast light moves...especially someone like Monica who thinks faster then light (well her cosmic awareness helps too).
Here she is thinking within the speed of light. If you have scans of Storm thinking faster then light, please post them.
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If you wish to continue this, let's move to the Spectrum thread.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5656057]Pages before, she would react, however, was interrupted (and in the same title it was said that although she transformed into her human form, she was operating as energy)
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If you like we can move this Monica conversation to her thread. No need to clog up Storms Appreciation thred.
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?145637-CM-Monica-Frank-and-Maria-quot-Photon-quot-Rambeau-Appreciation-2021/page28[/url]
I'm kinda unclear on the discussion. Are we saying that storm thoughts are not speed of thought? I thought all thoughts simply occur at that speed based upon how it is defined canonically
a baseline human thoughts would move at the speed of light:
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/F0EqlilT_1r2fA86_IDfmWzItrEI_844GCBgCM0nctNVVMNKgLNbvLXuRUw23N_RMk0zaJMY5zjQ=s1600[/img]
Speed of thought is very inconsistent
The only thing I see Storm being LS in her thought process is the scan where she perceives lightning bolts creation (the flash is light speed) and electrons (which are close to light speed)
In space Storm's thought process was making out a song made in patterns of Tachyons which is faster than light. In space, Storm is heavily amped compared to a planetary atmosphere since she has more to work with. Which is probably why she was able to fight FTL Heralds like Silver Surfer and Stardust.